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| 10:22.19 | VidarPT | Hey, anybody here? |
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| 12:45.38 | p8m | VidarPT: hi |
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| 13:41.20 | VidarPT | Anyone here? |
| 14:28.20 | p8m | VidarPT: what's up? |
| 14:32.02 | VidarPT | Hey |
| 14:32.22 | VidarPT | I'm having quite a bit of trouble with the eMacs on my school |
| 14:32.26 | VidarPT | think you could help me out? |
| 14:35.43 | p8m | What's wrong with them? |
| 14:43.56 | VidarPT | well |
| 14:44.06 | VidarPT | in one I have installed debian wheezy |
| 14:44.08 | VidarPT | in the other debian jessie |
| 14:44.23 | VidarPT | first of all the mac has a G4 1.25GHz and an ATI 9200 |
| 14:44.25 | VidarPT | both |
| 14:44.36 | VidarPT | on wheezy I can get a gui but it uses the sotfware rasterizer |
| 14:44.50 | VidarPT | on jessie the computer freezes, not even tty works |
| 14:45.03 | VidarPT | I can only boot jessie to a tty by appending radeon.modeset=0 but then I can't start X |
| 14:49.16 | p8m | My understanding is that the 'radeon' driver no longer supports big-endian systems. |
| 14:49.38 | VidarPT | so getting jessie to work is out of the question? |
| 14:49.43 | p8m | There was a commit in Jan. that mentioned endianess: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/cc78eb22885bba64445cde438ba098de0104920f |
| 14:49.51 | VidarPT | any way i can get 3d acceleration on wheezy at least? |
| 14:53.15 | p8m | Not that I know of. Check out the debian powerpc mailing list archive. There are some related posts in the past few months |
| 14:54.14 | VidarPT | i've seen a lot of people getting 3d to work on imacs with g4s and 9200 |
| 14:54.17 | VidarPT | either by getting kms to work |
| 14:54.20 | VidarPT | or disabling it |
| 14:54.23 | VidarPT | but i'm havning no such luck |
| 14:54.31 | VidarPT | you can find a lot of this by just googling |
| 14:54.36 | VidarPT | powermacs also worked |
| 14:55.09 | p8m | Where have you seen this? And when were those posts made? It used to work but now it doesn't. |
| 14:56.37 | VidarPT | i'm looking |
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| 15:01.59 | VidarPT | https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/08/msg00025.html 2012, this guy didn't seem to get it working either |
| 15:02.14 | VidarPT | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31298 here |
| 15:02.15 | VidarPT | 2010 |
| 15:02.22 | VidarPT | he got glxgears to work at 1300fps |
| 15:04.16 | VidarPT | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103723 2013, also got 3d acceleration working |
| 15:04.19 | VidarPT | although very slow |
| 15:08.24 | p8m | 2010 would have been 'lenny'. I remember getting 3d acceleration working with lenny. Since then big-endian support broke at some point. |
| 15:10.28 | VidarPT | http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.pt/2015/04/debian-testing-for-my-ibook-g4.html he got kms working too |
| 15:10.30 | VidarPT | it's a 9200m |
| 15:22.11 | VidarPT | why can't i get the software rasterizer to work on jessie, anyway? |
| 15:22.20 | VidarPT | works fine on wheezy but no luck on jessie |
| 15:35.02 | p8m | Did you try the kernel parameters mentioned on that post? It looks like he disabled radeonfb and agpmode |
| 15:36.03 | VidarPT | i did |
| 15:36.06 | VidarPT | still black screen |
| 15:36.11 | VidarPT | i think the gpu locks |
| 15:36.16 | VidarPT | can't open tty or anything |
| 15:36.29 | VidarPT | on wheezy I don't need to do anything |
| 15:39.32 | VidarPT | on jessie, kms leads me to black screen while radeonfb leads me to tty but can't boot X |
| 15:39.47 | VidarPT | on wheezy it works either way, but only with software rasterizer |
| 15:41.55 | p8m | Hmm another difference is that that guy is running stretch which at that time would have been linux 4.0 not the 3.16 you'd have with jessie |
| 15:43.10 | VidarPT | i've actually tried ubuntu 16.04 too |
| 15:45.14 | VidarPT | i don't know what kernel it has |
| 15:45.48 | p8m | Did you try debian testing/stretch? |
| 15:46.43 | VidarPT | not yet |
| 15:47.32 | VidarPT | the version on 16.04 so far is 4.4.0-4 |
| 15:48.00 | p8m | Anothing thing you can do is setup an ssh server, enable kms, and then get the X logs over ssh. The logs might have useful errors |
| 15:48.37 | VidarPT | i don't think that's necessary, can't I just check the old log? |
| 15:48.50 | VidarPT | for instance, boot in kms mode, reboot, boot with modeset=0, get X log |
| 15:51.21 | p8m | Sure that would work too. |
| 15:51.47 | VidarPT | Is it Xorg.1.log? |
| 15:51.59 | VidarPT | 0 is the current session, right? |
| 15:52.37 | p8m | yes |
| 15:54.07 | VidarPT | i'll try doing it now |
| 16:15.46 | VidarPT | sorry |
| 16:15.51 | VidarPT | it didn't create a Xorg.1.log |
| 16:15.56 | VidarPT | not sure why |
| 16:16.05 | VidarPT | i don't have the time right now so i'll try tomorrow through ssh |
| 16:17.01 | VidarPT | i remember one error though |
| 16:17.02 | VidarPT | [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported |
| 16:17.02 | VidarPT | this |
| 16:17.20 | VidarPT | another one is the system complaining that UMS is no longer supported on radeonfb |
| 16:24.40 | VidarPT | have to go, thanks for the help |
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