| 06:31.55 | vita_cell | hi, is anyone here? |
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| 13:44.58 | pahartik | vita_cell: Yes |
| 13:45.21 | vita_cell | hi pahartik |
| 13:45.32 | vita_cell | are you user of powerpc? |
| 13:47.56 | pahartik | vita_cell: Just one server at moment, workstation failed few months ago |
| 13:48.52 | vita_cell | I really want to make working my powermacs g4 and g5 |
| 13:50.10 | vita_cell | I bought them half year ago, and then restored them, I tryed to install Debian but I can remember that installation failed, now I have Lubuntu |
| 13:50.43 | vita_cell | I really want to install Debian, and probably will need help |
| 13:54.49 | pahartik | vita_cell: Do you need X11 server on it? |
| 13:55.04 | vita_cell | yes |
| 13:55.22 | vita_cell | like a normal desktop computer with GNU/Linux |
| 13:56.52 | vita_cell | I see that Gentoo is as good as Debian in supporting cpu architectures, but it is too much time for install it, and I never tryed Gentoo, but I still prefer rolling-release GNULinux like Arch, but Arch's powerPC project is absolutely dead |
| 13:56.59 | pahartik | vita_cell: I had to use some older version of X.org due to legacy NVidia driver that was required |
| 13:57.49 | vita_cell | I have ATI Radeon, (can not remember if it is 256mb 9600xt or 256mb 9800pro) |
| 13:58.44 | vita_cell | so linux version will be 4.*, and I do not know if that card need blob firmware (like modern AMD GPUs) |
| 13:59.12 | vita_cell | and Debian's linux seems to be blobless |
| 14:00.05 | vita_cell | (I could install Lubuntu) |
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| 14:02.35 | pahartik | vita_cell: Oh, ATI could be easier, as that was on my "Apple iBook G4" years ago |
| 14:03.18 | vita_cell | Do you think that I can install Debian powerpc64el into G5 flawlessly? |
| 14:04.08 | vita_cell | I will try to install Debian powerpc32 into my g4, ati rage is absolutelly crap gpu and GUI installer won't run fine |
| 14:04.14 | pahartik | vita_cell: No, that requires POWER8 |
| 14:04.21 | vita_cell | LoL |
| 14:04.31 | vita_cell | how? |
| 14:05.03 | vita_cell | powerpc64el it is compatible with G5, not? |
| 14:09.49 | pahartik | vita_cell: For "Apple Computer" workstations, "powerpc" architecture is compatible |
| 14:09.59 | vita_cell | pahartik you are right, thanks for that info |
| 14:10.17 | vita_cell | and what about powerpc64 for G5? |
| 14:10.29 | vita_cell | how do I get 64 on G5? |
| 14:11.02 | pahartik | vita_cell: 64-bit kernel and 32-bit userland |
| 14:11.35 | vita_cell | so just normal "powerpc" image and then isntall 64 bits kernel |
| 14:11.56 | pahartik | vita_cell: Yes |
| 14:12.27 | vita_cell | do I need some non-free firmware for core install with x11? |
| 14:14.19 | pahartik | vita_cell: Do not worry about Radeon firmware during install, text console installer should work just fine |
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