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13:08.56nochi have replaced the hard drive of my ibook g4, and now trying to boot debian 8.7.1 ppc, but i always get
13:09.38nochillegal instruction at SRR0
13:10.21nochonly once i've got a suggestion to type mac-boot and then i was able to eject and change the cd. now i don't even get that suggestion.
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13:12.37pahartiknoch: What if you boot over network with IPv4 TFTP?
13:13.42nochibook g4 can do that?
13:13.56nochhow can i force it to boot to network? also, i have no setup of that.
13:14.07nochi have no pxeboot setup in DNS etc.
13:14.13nochand no install server.
13:14.19nochcan i use usb boot?
13:14.53pahartiknoch: Yes, from built-in ethernet interface
13:15.07nochafter mac-boot the prompt was answering something other than "illegal instruction" and i was able to execute "eject cd" successfully.
13:15.37nochi don't understand what is illegal there. may it be it tries to boot from the HDD, and HDD indeed has no mac boot loader.
13:15.44nochit's just and hdd.
13:16.14nochbut then may it be that... the debian modern version won't boot on ibook g4?
13:16.36nochi remember, in mac-boot prompt, which i am not able to get now any more
13:17.01nochi was writing boot cd, or something like that, and it was executing that appending the options about the memory, and then saying that memory is not enough
13:17.14nochbut now i am not able to get that mac-boot prompt.
13:17.19nochi see openfirmware
13:17.24nochthe ok> prompt
13:17.39nochand whatever i type, i get "illegal instruction" message.
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13:18.11nochso may be i have connected something wrong, but what? it seems that everything went fine, everything is connected as it was connected.
13:19.54pahartiknoch: Do you have other bootable DVD or CD media?
13:20.16nochyes, i cannot try them all
13:20.20nochbecause i cannot eject the cd
13:20.30nochonce in mac-boot mode i was able to type "eject cd"
13:20.34nochand get it out.
13:20.54nochbut that time i've got that message which suggested to type "mac-boot" and then it was listening to me.
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13:21.05nochnow it only says "illegal instruction" every time i type something.
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13:21.24nochi have this eject button on the keyboard
13:21.34nochi don't understand how should i press it to get out the cd.
13:22.02nochit's f12, i press it and start the computer, i just press it, the cd does not get out. i am doing something wrong probably.
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13:25.33pahartiknoch: Optical media should be ejected automatically when powering up system, if I recall correctly
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13:32.56pahartiknoch: My 2004 "Apple iBook G4" failed at 2011, so I cannot remember details... But what is required for booting over network is working IPv4 TFTP server with bootable kernel image on it, then command like "boot enet:<server>,<file>,client"
13:34.31pahartiknoch: My 2004 "Apple iBook G4" failed at 2011, so I cannot remember details... But what is required for booting over network is working IPv4 TFTP server with bootable kernel image on it, then command like "boot enet:<server>,<file>,<client>"
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13:42.09pahartiknoch: Another option is trying to boot from IEEE-1394 harddisk or DVD drive (or another PowerMacintosh in "target-disk-mode")
13:45.45pahartiknoch: Also, optical media can be released with physical button when it is powered off, by using pin on hole next to slot
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13:47.43nochthere's no hole for a pin on a cd/dvd drive here. i guess.
13:47.50donofrionoch, how did you replace your hard drive without going mad,...the teardown looks crazy to repalce the drive (I have two that need new hdd's) I want ssd's lol
13:48.32donofrionoch, durning white bootup hold down the mouse button then it will eject after list 20 seconds of keeping button pressed...
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13:50.42nochah
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13:55.10nochyaaay, i have removed and set up memory again, and it booted!
13:56.32donofrio;)
13:56.40pahartiknoch: Oh, actually, there is no hole on that model, but similar feature is available at one edge of slot
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14:05.14donofrionoch, fwiw my at work "Daily Driver/notebook" (just got minicga-vga adaptor last night) https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNl6Ah-vo_YWAqm2Rfng ;)
14:05.27nochhmmm
14:06.26nochsetting up lvm encrypted drive on my mac.
14:06.29nochfor the first time.
14:06.30noch(:
14:08.46pahartiknoch: Very good
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16:32.42nochNo NewWorld boot partition was found. The yaboot boot loader requires an Apple_Bootstrap partition at least 819200 bytes in size, using the HFS Macintosh file system. Go back to menu?
16:32.43nochhmmm.
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16:59.21pahartiknoch: Did you create such "bootstrap" partition when preparing disk?
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17:03.19nochi have used guided partitioning to create encrypted lvm. it set up some Apple partition with 32kb size, then NewWorld boot partition with 1mb size.
17:03.25nochthen the encrypted lvm.
17:03.35nochi guessed the automate partitioning would go fine.
17:03.52nochi am now trying, though it claimed it's not okay, may be it'll work after installation.
17:03.53pahartiknoch: I suggest 4 MiB for HFS "/boot/bootstrap/" and 256 MiB for Ext2 "/boot/"
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17:04.45nochthank you. i'll try after reboot.
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17:14.40pahartiknoch: I do partition editing with "parted" during "Debian installer", because it does accept input like "1MiB" and "4096s" for start and end of partitions, and "unit KiB" for seeing results without "10**3 versus 2**10" surprises
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