IRC log for #debianppc on 20181129

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03:36.26*** topic/#debianppc is The Debian GNU/Linux PowerPC Port: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ | Debian CDs are not bootable on OldWorld PowerMacs
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16:23.58cgrahnHas anyone had an issue with messed up colors in xorg running on big endian ppc?
16:25.17cgrahnI got debian sid ppc64 running i3 as the window manager. The colors are wrong in every application I've tried (rxvt-unicode-256-color, i3status, dmenu, slock).
16:54.10WoC(rxvt-unicode-256-color may not be defined in your ppc64 install
16:54.44WoCtry TERM=xterm
16:55.55WoCI'm using LXQT on my sid install though
16:56.12cgrahnIt's not a $TERM issue. I should say I think it's an endianness issue. Instead of the colors being displayed as RGBA, they seem to be ABGR.
16:56.42WoCk ;]
16:57.32WoCi dont see it in LXQT though
16:57.46cgrahnAre you using ppc64?
16:57.56WoCppc970/dp
16:58.38WoCyes, ppc64 sid install
16:59.06WoCstill compiling my own kernel though and no, this is not the ppc970 box
17:00.28cgrahnokay, I'll try a different window manager and see if I get the same issue.
17:01.35WoCgraphic card ?
17:01.41WoCamd ?
17:03.22WoC0000:f0:10.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV350 [Radeon 9550/9600/X1050 Series]
17:04.19cgrahn0005:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family (rev 41)
17:04.27cgrahnIt's the integrated video on the Talos II motherboard
17:04.32WoCoh
17:04.54WoCmine is a Power Mac G5 / DP
17:05.37WoCwhat does your /proc/cpuinfo say on the cpu line ?
17:06.12WoCif you dont mind me asking ;]
17:06.34cgrahnPOWER9, altivec supported
17:06.42WoCnice
17:06.55WoCPPC970, altivec supported
17:07.08cgrahnthanks
17:07.09WoCyours is a lot newer
17:07.25cgrahnI'm trying to run big endian for the fun of it
17:07.45cgrahnDebian ppc64el seems to work fine without issues in X, but I thought I'd try ppc64
17:07.54WoCSame here, used to have an Amiga back in the say, 680x0, also bigendian
17:08.16WoCbut ppc970 does not do le/el
17:09.21cgrahnThis is first computer I've owned that supports big endian.
17:09.30WoCah
17:09.37WoCyou use grub ?
17:09.52WoCas boot loader ?
17:09.58cgrahnI take that back. I had a blue Mac G3 tower that I had a while ago, but I wasn't aware of endianess then, heh
17:10.05cgrahnpetitboot
17:10.28WoCk, i have a special, i use yaboot to boot grub which boots debian ;)
17:11.09WoCthe ppc64 grub can boot from an iso file, the ppc64el/le can not
17:11.37WoCjust fyi ;]
17:12.37WoCi think the ppc64 is faster than ppc64el/le
17:12.47WoCcode wise
17:12.51WoCgtg
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21:05.16AKiLLhi
21:07.09AKiLLI installed debian sid on my powerbook g4 but no X server and no lan. can anyone help me to start X server ?
21:31.40AKiLLcan anyone provide a working sid repo ?
21:40.36psydroid[m]what is the output of 'lspci'?
21:42.33AKiLLHost Bridge: Apple Inc. Intrepid2 AGP Bridge
21:43.13psydroid[m]can you give me the entire output of "lspci -v"?
21:43.35psydroid[m]I think this is an issue with multiple PCI buses as I also have on the Powermac G4
21:43.57AKiLLI actually am writing from a different computer
21:44.08psydroid[m]oh, but in your case it says AGP Bridge
21:44.40AKiLLthere is also another Host Bridge listed:
21:44.58AKiLLApple Inc. Intrepid2 PCI Bridge
21:45.18psydroid[m]I don't get X on my G4 but the network works at least
21:45.22AKiLLBroadcom BCM4318 WIreless Lan controller
21:46.00AKiLLhow do I verify from shell if I have a working network ?
21:47.03psydroid[m]you can run 'ip address" if you have set up DHCP for example
21:47.15psydroid[m]and it should list your interfaces and associated addresses
21:48.04AKiLLok
21:50.00AKiLLcould you suggest a way to get b43-firmware-installer and non-free graphic driver ?
21:50.22AKiLLI get an error when I try to update from aptitude
21:54.09psydroid[m]can't you use a cable to connect to the network now?
21:55.14psydroid[m]https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
21:55.47AKiLLYes. I can
21:56.03AKiLLjust now I'm connected via Lan
22:03.10psydroid[m]I am downloading the debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINSTALL iso
22:03.14psydroid[m]to install in QEMU
22:03.29psydroid[m]I am not sure if it is exactly the same as your machine
22:05.02AKiLLmy machine is a powerbook G4 - 5,8 model
22:06.20AKiLLit successfully run ubuntu and mint but I dropped cause of dead development
22:06.24psydroid[m]but can you give me the information I asked for before?
22:06.32psydroid[m]"lspci -v"
22:06.56psydroid[m]it is important to know what kind of devices are in the Powerbook and what their bus IDs are
22:09.45AKiLLhow do I stop the scrolling output info?
22:10.08WoC^c
22:10.16AKiLLtnx
22:10.20WoCnp
22:10.34WoClspci | grep VGA
22:10.48AKiLLHost Bridge: Apple Inc. Intrepid2 AGP Bridge
22:11.00WoChmmm?
22:11.23psydroid[m]can you do this?
22:11.29WoC"lspci | grep VGA" <-- without the quotes
22:11.44AKiLLVGA compatible controller Advanced Micro Devices, Inc [AMD/ATI] RV350/M10
22:11.53WoCah, same as mine
22:12.04psydroid[m]lspci -v | grep VGA
22:12.12WoCyou are probably missing the firmware
22:12.34WoCdmesg | grep R300
22:12.53AKiLLVGA compatible controller Advanced Micro Devices, Inc [AMD/ATI] RV350/M10 / RV 360/M11 [Mobility RAdeon 9600 (PRO) / 9700 ]
22:13.08psydroid[m]but no PCI IDs are listed?
22:13.15WoCk, same Gfx, but your card is better
22:13.16psydroid[m]this is strange
22:13.25WoClspci -nv
22:13.33AKiLLdmesg: read kernel buffer failed: operation not permitted
22:13.46WoCok, you are not root
22:14.14WoCpermission denied
22:14.34WoCdid you install sudo ?
22:15.10AKiLLyes
22:15.13WoC"lspci -nv | grep VGA" <--- w/o quotes
22:15.24WoCsudo dmesg | grep R300
22:16.24AKiLL0000:00:10.0 0300:1002:4e50 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
22:16.42WoCok, that is the pci id's
22:16.47WoCwith bus etc
22:17.15WoCtat was for psydroid[m]
22:17.19AKiLLLoading R300 Microcode
22:17.27WoCnice
22:17.46AKiLLfailed to load radeon/r300_cp.bin (-2)
22:17.52WoCah
22:18.20WoCi copied the firmware file from my ubuntu box ;]
22:18.32AKiLLhmmm
22:18.50psydroid[m]https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
22:19.50AKiLLhow do I actually can download and install the required firmware from terminal ?
22:20.58AKiLLcan u help me to arrange sources.list ?
22:22.14psydroid[m]what is in your sources.list now?
22:23.58AKiLLdeb http://deb.debian.org/debian sid main
22:24.01psydroid[m]I think you only have to run
22:24.08psydroid[m]sudo apt get update
22:24.23psydroid[m]wait
22:24.32psydroid[m]"sudo apt update"
22:24.51psydroid[m]"sudo apt install firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati"
22:25.04psydroid[m]from the link I gave you
22:27.00AKiLLhow do I use the link you gave me wit apt ?
22:29.50psydroid[m]I have just given you the exact commands you need to run
22:29.55WoCfirmware-amd-graphics replaced firmware-linux-nonfree
22:31.51AKiLLunable to locate package
22:32.47AKiLLso do I need to modify my sources.list ?
22:32.54psydroid[m]no
22:32.55WoCtry "sudo apt install firmware-amd-graphics libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-radeon"
22:34.01WoChope you don't mind me meddling, psydroid[m]
22:34.15AKiLLunable to locate package firmware-amd-graphics
22:34.21WoChmm
22:34.34AKiLLunable to locate package libgl1-mesa-dri
22:34.48AKiLLunable to locate package xserver-xorg-video-radeon
22:34.54psydroid[m]once my install in QEMU is finished I can see what happens
22:35.02AKiLLok!
22:35.04AKiLLtnx
22:35.06psydroid[m]WoC, no it's ok, we are all here to help each other
22:35.44psydroid[m]it's just that some of the information on the Debian site is outdated
22:36.00AKiLLI realized that
22:38.41WoCk ;]
22:41.15WoCactually, all my firmware, i copied from my other computer (x86-64) running ubuntu. these firmware are not cpu specific nor os specific
22:42.58psydroid[m]I think there may be a problem with powerpc in that you can't set a mirror during install
22:43.21psydroid[m]so I'll have to look into this when the install is finished
22:43.32AKiLLYes! I had problem setting the mirror during the installation
22:44.20AKiLLcan I set it up a working mirror just now ?
22:45.47psydroid[m]I am going to look into it when the install is finished
22:45.55AKiLLok
22:46.08psydroid[m]ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-ports/pool-powerpc/
22:46.13psydroid[m]but you can see the packages here
22:46.35AKiLLI'll wait for u to finish your debian QEMU installation ...
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22:54.55psydroid[m]I'm almost there
22:57.36AKiLLgood
23:05.31AKiLLsorry psydroid[m]: which machine do u actually use to run qemu ?
23:05.58psydroid[m]AKiLL: I use mac99, which should be a G4 machine
23:06.09psydroid[m]I have it running now and I see the problem with the sources.list
23:08.00AKiLLI mean: d you run QEMU on an x64 computer ?
23:14.01psydroid[m]yes
23:14.12psydroid[m]but it can also be run on another computer
23:21.25psydroid[m]I have set up my sources.list
23:21.30psydroid[m]but I am getting an error
23:21.33psydroid[m]The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06AED62430CB581C
23:21.50psydroid[m]so I don't know what's up with that
23:21.55psydroid[m]I didn't see that on my Powermac G4
23:21.58AKiLLhmmm
23:22.03psydroid[m]so maybe I'll power it on tomorrow to see what is different
23:22.10AKiLLok
23:22.14AKiLLtnx
23:22.46psydroid[m]deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-ports unstable main contrib non-free
23:22.47psydroid[m]deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-ports unstable main contrib non-free
23:23.01psydroid[m]this is what I have in my sources.list now after commenting the other lines
23:25.26AKiLLok
23:25.59AKiLLSo, If u agree I'll contact you tomorrow or during next days...
23:27.16psydroid[m]maybe this is something that is supposed to happen during install
23:27.18psydroid[m]sure
23:27.24psydroid[m]I need to go to sleep now
23:27.37AKiLLok
23:27.53AKiLLhave  a good night!
23:28.08psydroid[m]same to you!
23:29.50AKiLLby all !
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23:38.04WoCpsydroid[m], is the G4 ppc64 capable ?
23:41.36psydroid[m]WoC, it isn't, so it isn't very useful anymore these days
23:41.55psydroid[m]that's why I got a G5 last year
23:42.16psydroid[m]but now I have everything running in QEMU
23:42.40psydroid[m]powerpc, ppc64 and ppc64el

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