| 00:32.18 | *** join/#devlounge purl (ibot@apt.bot.TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 00:32.18 | *** topic/#devlounge is what is the purpose of this channel again? |
| 00:32.21 | TD | we need a kibot really too, so people can get some mad quoting action |
| 00:32.25 | *** mode/#devlounge [+o TimRiker] by TD |
| 00:32.31 | *** mode/#devlounge [+o kergoth] by TD |
| 00:32.34 | TimRiker | purl: chanset autojoin |
| 00:32.34 | purl | Showing autojoin values on all channels... |
| 00:32.34 | purl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.34 | purl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.34 | purl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.35 | purl | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:32.35 | purl | End of list. |
| 00:32.45 | TD | heh, i see |
| 00:32.54 | TimRiker | purl: chanset #devlounge autojoin purl |
| 00:32.54 | purl | no such channel #devlounge |
| 00:32.54 | kergoth | ~welcome |
| 00:33.01 | TimRiker | silly bot. |
| 00:33.04 | TimRiker | purl: part |
| 00:33.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:33.28 | TimRiker | purl: +chan #devlounge |
| 00:33.51 | TimRiker | purl: chanset #devlounge autojoin |
| 00:33.51 | purl | autojoin for #devlounge is 'purl' |
| 00:33.53 | *** join/#devlounge pagefault (~pagefault@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4062152.sympatico.ca) |
| 00:33.55 | TimRiker | cool. |
| 00:33.59 | TimRiker | purl: save |
| 00:33.59 | purl | saved user and chan files |
| 00:33.59 | TD | the real question is |
| 00:34.02 | TD | in how many ways can we abuse this bot? |
| 00:34.13 | TimRiker | pagefault: insult all those who abuse the bot |
| 00:34.17 | pagefault | sure |
| 00:34.21 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:34.21 | TimRiker | purl: insult all those who abuse the bot |
| 00:34.40 | kergoth | TimRiker: you can remove #picogui from ibot's autojoin. |
| 00:34.40 | TD | goodness gracious me |
| 00:34.41 | TimRiker | purl: insult all a nick other than purl that starts with p |
| 00:34.44 | TD | hours of fun |
| 00:34.51 | kergoth | ~whaleslap TD |
| 00:34.53 | purl | ACTION slaps TD upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 00:35.05 | ChipX86 | ~emulate gir |
| 00:35.07 | purl | my walnuts! |
| 00:35.09 | TimRiker | kergoth: probably a good idea |
| 00:35.10 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
| 00:35.12 | purl | Damn you, broccoli. |
| 00:35.17 | TimRiker | purl: -chan -#picogui |
| 00:35.17 | purl | Deleting channel #picogui for sure! |
| 00:35.17 | purl | Leaving #picogui... |
| 00:35.55 | TD | ChipX86: i know who we should get in here |
| 00:36.06 | TD | ChipX86: how about ... eugenia loli queru! |
| 00:36.20 | TimRiker | k. purl logs, you're all aware of that, yes? |
| 00:36.25 | TimRiker | ~logs |
| 00:36.26 | purl | [logs] http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian, or stats for some channels at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz for apt, ibot, jbot and purl. |
| 00:36.32 | TD | yeah, sure, whatever |
| 00:36.32 | kergoth | ~devlounge is just a place where free software/OS developers can chill out and spraff for a bit instead of doing it where people are trying to work. |
| 00:36.33 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 00:36.36 | TimRiker | heh |
| 00:36.56 | TD | yay! my second year project compiles |
| 00:37.00 | TD | (for the first time) |
| 00:37.05 | kergoth | congrats |
| 00:37.09 | kergoth | ~emulate kergoth |
| 00:37.10 | purl | ACTION hacks on bitbake, openembedded, openzaurus, and other projects and wields a mean cluebat. |
| 00:38.11 | ChipX86 | ~emulate ChipX86 |
| 00:38.12 | purl | ACTION hides from gaim users. |
| 00:38.20 | ChipX86 | oh come on now |
| 00:38.22 | TD | heh |
| 00:38.26 | TimRiker | purl: no, emulate kergoth is <action> hacks on bitbake, openembedded, openzaurus, and other projects and wields a mean wootz damascus steel cluebat |
| 00:38.27 | purl | TimRiker: okay |
| 00:38.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:38.29 | ChipX86 | let's not leave out the galago users |
| 00:38.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:38.37 | ChipX86 | and VMware users |
| 00:38.43 | ChipX86 | that's discrimatory |
| 00:38.46 | TD | users generally, really |
| 00:39.02 | kergoth | hey now, none of that in here |
| 00:39.11 | ChipX86 | not with all these people watching! |
| 00:40.00 | mathrick | the question is |
| 00:40.06 | mathrick | how do we add quotes to purl? |
| 00:40.10 | *** join/#devlounge purple_cow (~jupiter@128.138.74.40) |
| 00:40.28 | TimRiker | purl: mathrick is someone that wants to teach you |
| 00:40.29 | purl | okay, TimRiker |
| 00:40.36 | TimRiker | purl: mathrick? |
| 00:40.37 | purl | i guess mathrick is someone that wants to teach you |
| 00:40.45 | TD | TimRiker: ah, a little different |
| 00:40.49 | kergoth | ~literal emulate stewie |
| 00:40.50 | purl | "emulate stewie" is "<reply> Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. || <reply> No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. || <reply> Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. || <reply> Damn you, broccoli. || <reply> I come bearing ... |
| 00:40.50 | TimRiker | purl: no, mathrick is someone that wants to teach $ident |
| 00:40.52 | purl | okay, TimRiker |
| 00:40.54 | TimRiker | purl: mathrick? |
| 00:40.56 | purl | mathrick is probably someone that wants to teach jbot |
| 00:41.00 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 00:41.02 | mathrick | heh |
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| 00:41.11 | TD | mathrick: i think ChipX86 is wanting to set up a kibot on osiris later |
| 00:41.16 | TD | so we should have a rupert as well |
| 00:41.26 | mathrick | yay |
| 00:41.35 | mathrick | it should be named rupert, too |
| 00:41.49 | TD | in his honour |
| 00:41.49 | mathrick | or something confusingly similar |
| 00:41.53 | TD | Roopert |
| 00:41.56 | mathrick | yay |
| 00:42.08 | TimRiker | ruqert |
| 00:42.30 | TimRiker | ~scramble rupert |
| 00:42.41 | TD | somebody put way too much time into that bot ;) |
| 00:42.55 | TimRiker | ~scramble somebody put way too much time into that bot |
| 00:42.55 | kergoth | ~zippy |
| 00:43.23 | TimRiker | ~x en zh somebody put way too much time into that bot |
| 00:43.32 | TD | haha |
| 00:43.34 | TD | i knew that was coming |
| 00:43.36 | kergoth | eep, my irssi is definately not utf8 happy |
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| 00:43.42 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 00:44.31 | *** join/#devlounge scanline (~micah@scanline.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 00:44.37 | samyb | scanline: ;) |
| 00:44.39 | scanline | hiya |
| 00:44.51 | TD | heh |
| 00:45.09 | purple_cow | scanline: well, that was your first mistake |
| 00:45.34 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:46.11 | ChipX86 | TD: good job. It's already bigger than #galago (though most things are) |
| 00:46.49 | *** topic/#devlounge by TD -> IT MIGHT LOOK HARMLESS BUT DON'T BE FOOLED: http://www.livescience.com/images/050217_hrobots_delft_02.jpg |
| 00:47.01 | TD | IT WANTS YOUR BODY |
| 00:47.53 | ChipX86 | who doesn't? |
| 00:48.06 | mathrick | "It's important to remember that the leetspeek community encourages new forms and awards individual creativity, resulting in a dynamic written language that eludes conformity or consistency. However, there are a few standard terms. The following is a sample of key words that haven't changed fundamentally (although variations occur) since the invention of leetspeek. The first series is of particular concern, as their use could be an indicator that you |
| 00:48.06 | mathrick | r teenager is involved in the theft of intellectual property, particularly licensed software." |
| 00:48.10 | mathrick | hahaha |
| 00:48.17 | TD | lol |
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| 00:48.20 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 00:48.32 | TimRiker | ~convert 60 miles/hour to parsecs/megamillennium |
| 00:48.43 | TD | "How to tell if your teenager is a DIRTY SCUMMY PIRATE in 3 easy steps!" |
| 00:48.53 | ChipX86 | ~convert 60 pounds to mcdonalds hamburgers |
| 00:49.01 | ChipX86 | that needs to be fixed |
| 00:49.16 | TD | yes |
| 00:49.20 | mathrick | ~what is the answer to life, the universe and everything? |
| 00:49.22 | purl | mathrick: what are you talking about? |
| 00:49.22 | TD | do mcdonalds have a web service? |
| 00:49.22 | *** part/#devlounge bryce (~bryce@fw.osdl.org) |
| 00:49.24 | TD | it'd be cool if it was a quite literal conversion |
| 00:49.26 | TD | lol |
| 00:49.31 | mathrick | purl: 42 of course! |
| 00:50.00 | TimRiker | purl: life, the universe and everthing? |
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| 00:50.09 | TimRiker | purl: life, the universe and everything? |
| 00:50.11 | samyb | Hey lofi. |
| 00:50.18 | TimRiker | ah well. it's in there someplace. |
| 00:50.23 | TimRiker | ~listvalues 42 |
| 00:50.25 | TD | TimRiker: i think we get the picture |
| 00:50.35 | TD | jbot can do everything god can do, but backwards as well |
| 00:50.41 | TimRiker | ah well. lots of 42s |
| 00:51.19 | TimRiker | purl: nickometer #devlounge |
| 00:51.19 | purl | Nickometer list for #devlounge (6): CP|Beer (34%) ;; a-atwood_spare (26%) ;; mjg59 (22%) ;; ChipX86 (21%) ;; TD, purple_cow, treke- (14%) ;; KeyserSoze, TimRiker, kergoth, lofi, lurgy, marv, mathrick, nullpuppy, pagefault, pb_, purl, samyb, scanline (0%). |
| 00:51.32 | scanline | I'm 0% cool? |
| 00:51.37 | purple_cow | scanline: yep |
| 00:51.37 | TimRiker | heh |
| 00:51.40 | samyb | haha |
| 00:51.42 | TD | TimRiker: just write a web page that lists everything it can do and let people discover it for themselves |
| 00:52.04 | TimRiker | TD: ask it for help. most of the commands are in the help. |
| 00:52.13 | mathrick | how is coolness measured? |
| 00:52.20 | TD | degrees |
| 00:52.26 | TimRiker | ~nickometer mathrick |
| 00:52.26 | purl | 'mathrick' is 0.000% lame, timriker |
| 00:52.26 | mathrick | heh |
| 00:52.31 | mathrick | aah |
| 00:52.36 | TimRiker | it's lameness. |
| 00:52.37 | mathrick | ~nickometer CP|Beer |
| 00:52.37 | purl | 'CP|Beer' is 34.000% lame, mathrick |
| 00:52.50 | mathrick | how does it determine it, however? |
| 00:52.59 | KeyserSoze | ~nickometer KeyserSoze |
| 00:52.59 | purl | 'KeyserSoze' is 0.000% lame, keysersoze |
| 00:53.08 | TimRiker | read the source. special characters, leet speak, etc. |
| 00:53.14 | mathrick | ic |
| 00:53.16 | KeyserSoze | hmmm. 0% lame and 0% cool. both seem a little on the low side |
| 00:53.18 | mathrick | like that? :) |
| 00:53.32 | samyb | TimRiker: Where can the source be downloaded from? |
| 00:53.34 | mathrick | ~nickometer mathrick |
| 00:53.34 | purl | 'mathrick' is 0.000% lame, mathrick |
| 00:53.37 | TimRiker | ~nickometer 1337 |
| 00:53.37 | purl | '1337' is 63.000% lame, timriker |
| 00:53.41 | mathrick | ph34r m3 |
| 00:53.42 | mathrick | ~nickometer mathrick |
| 00:53.42 | purl | 'mathrick' is 0.000% lame, mathrick |
| 00:53.49 | mathrick | aah |
| 00:53.53 | mathrick | it measures nicks? |
| 00:53.54 | KeyserSoze | lol. does it just check the word? |
| 00:54.09 | mathrick | ~nickometer 1337h4xx0rz |
| 00:54.09 | purl | '1337h4xx0rz' is 99.9123% lame, mathrick |
| 00:54.11 | TimRiker | ~nickometer ph34rm3 |
| 00:54.11 | purl | 'ph34rm3' is 86.000% lame, timriker |
| 00:54.12 | TD | time for bed i think ... |
| 00:54.17 | mathrick | TD: haha |
| 00:54.19 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 00:54.27 | mathrick | TD: that would be cool, in bad way :> |
| 00:54.37 | samyb | ~nickometer F3EaRm3_f0o| |
| 00:54.37 | purl | 'F3EaRm3_f0o|' is 99.9218% lame, samyb |
| 00:54.37 | KeyserSoze | ~nickometer KeyserSozeX |
| 00:54.37 | purl | 'KeyserSozeX' is 98.690% lame, keysersoze |
| 00:54.44 | TimRiker | ~google for mathrick |
| 00:54.45 | TD | ooooh, harsh |
| 00:54.55 | mathrick | what? |
| 00:55.02 | samyb | Oh, it's ibot. |
| 00:55.36 | mathrick | heh |
| 00:55.51 | mathrick | I know of one other person with surname Mathrick |
| 00:56.44 | TD | your son? |
| 00:57.52 | mathrick | TD: no |
| 00:58.06 | TD | lol. don't abuse the bots. |
| 00:58.10 | mathrick | I don't have kids, for one, and my surname isn't Mathrick either :) |
| 00:58.10 | TD | that's a bit rich coming from tim ;) |
| 00:58.25 | TD | mathrick: two excellent and salient points |
| 00:58.45 | mathrick | but I was contacted by guy named John Mathrick once |
| 00:58.54 | mathrick | apparently in search of his relatives |
| 00:58.56 | TD | co-incidence? |
| 00:58.57 | TD | heh |
| 00:59.04 | mathrick | he googled me I think |
| 00:59.13 | samyb | haha |
| 00:59.41 | mathrick | but really, it's easier to find someone who's really named mathrick than to clash with my nick online :) |
| 00:59.52 | mathrick | I really 0wn in this regard |
| 01:00.17 | mathrick | setting up domain wasn't hard either :) |
| 01:00.41 | TD | hah |
| 01:00.47 | mathrick | TD: why TD btw? |
| 01:01.04 | TD | long story |
| 01:01.11 | TD | which also happens to be quite lame and boring so i'm not going to tell you ;) |
| 01:01.21 | TD | at least, not tonight |
| 01:01.44 | mathrick | heh |
| 01:02.24 | mathrick | I don't even have long and boring story to tell... |
| 01:02.28 | mathrick | *sniff* |
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| 01:08.35 | TD | hmmm |
| 01:08.46 | TD | i wonder how win4lin can run windows 2000 these days |
| 01:08.55 | TD | they must have rewritten it from scratch |
| 01:09.41 | mjg59 | Without kernel patches! |
| 01:09.52 | mjg59 | (Which presumably means that there are really ugly hacks in some modules they load) |
| 01:10.46 | TD | possibly |
| 01:10.49 | mathrick | without patches? |
| 01:10.55 | mathrick | but still with modules I take it? |
| 01:10.55 | TD | either that or they cloned the kernel. they've certainly been at it long enough |
| 01:11.02 | TD | mathrick: well, nobody knows |
| 01:11.19 | TD | they haven't said yet. just demod it |
| 01:11.27 | mathrick | ah |
| 01:12.36 | pb_ | there didn't seem to be anything especially cool going on when I was there on Tuesday |
| 01:13.27 | treke- | pb_: You're over in our part of the world? |
| 01:13.31 | TD | i'd like to go sometime |
| 01:13.53 | pb_ | treke-: Not any more, but I was in Boston until yesterday. |
| 01:13.57 | treke- | ah |
| 01:14.13 | pb_ | I guess that's still quite a long way from your particular part of the world. |
| 01:17.32 | TD | i think my boss went to pimp our warez, but apart from that not heard much |
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| 01:44.12 | marv | my tab was blue |
| 01:44.21 | marv | and for no good reason |
| 01:44.25 | marv | me smash! |
| 01:47.28 | lurgy | SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH |
| 01:47.32 | lurgy | you know what this channel needs? |
| 01:47.34 | lurgy | diablo-d3 |
| 01:50.20 | purple_cow | or not |
| 01:51.21 | kergoth | ~herring lurgy |
| 01:51.23 | purl | ACTION whacks lurgy on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 01:57.00 | lurgy | ow |
| 01:57.02 | lurgy | i've been herringed |
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| 04:51.37 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:58.22 | grim | blah |
| 04:58.54 | kergoth | ~zippy |
| 04:59.12 | grim | uh huh.. |
| 05:00.09 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 05:00.09 | purl | thanks, kergoth |
| 05:17.23 | ChipX86 | it's going to be weird going to work for only 2 or 3 hours tomorrow |
| 05:18.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:27.02 | kergoth | ~rlart |
| 05:27.54 | nullpuppy | hmm, purl just doesn't have the same pizazz that jbot has |
| 05:28.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:28.43 | grim | ChipX86: why only 2-3 hours? |
| 05:28.56 | ChipX86 | Jamie's coming at around 1 or 2 |
| 05:29.04 | grim | ah |
| 05:29.36 | grim | it's going to be weird going to school at 8am next quarter :P |
| 05:29.46 | grim | they're making me feel like i'm in high school again.. |
| 05:29.51 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 05:30.00 | ChipX86 | man, 8am... I don't wake up before 9:30 |
| 05:30.03 | grim | whats worse... 8am class, on SATURDAY!!! |
| 05:30.10 | ChipX86 | eww |
| 05:30.13 | grim | yeah |
| 05:30.23 | kergoth | thats just not right |
| 05:30.28 | grim | stupid databases class |
| 05:30.34 | nullpuppy | i had a class like that |
| 05:30.36 | nullpuppy | that sucked |
| 05:30.55 | kergoth | there's no way i'd be able to wake up |
| 05:30.58 | grim | well i'll only have 12 classes.. but still.. thats 12 friday nights i can't do anything.. |
| 05:30.59 | kergoth | i'd be better off just staying up |
| 05:31.08 | grim | kergoth: i've been considering that.. |
| 05:31.27 | kergoth | thats what i do on my wednesday 7am teleconference |
| 05:31.49 | grim | well a teleconference isn't nearly as bad as driving 8 miles to campus.. |
| 05:31.55 | kergoth | heh, true that |
| 05:32.10 | kergoth | at least you can go back to bed immediately after, and dont need to shower and stuff |
| 05:32.13 | kergoth | but still |
| 05:32.50 | grim | all i know is that right now.. it's a welcome change since i'm officially done with classes on vb after next week :) |
| 05:33.08 | kergoth | vb? egad. |
| 05:33.13 | nullpuppy | haha, i'm sorry |
| 05:33.24 | grim | yeah, i hadn't touched it in 5 years.. and bam, here i am taking classes on it.. |
| 05:33.40 | nullpuppy | are you going to need an exorcism soon? or... will you be alright? :) |
| 05:33.59 | grim | an exorcism would be nice... considering i had to use access.. |
| 05:34.03 | kergoth | eep |
| 05:34.08 | nullpuppy | *shudder* |
| 05:34.18 | kergoth | thats some serious trauma there |
| 05:34.22 | grim | yeah.. thats done.. all i have left is a final exam :) |
| 05:34.24 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 05:34.41 | grim | all i have to say is.. if you don't care for microsoft stuff... don't goto itt tech.. |
| 05:34.49 | kergoth | its funny, the more time i spend on irc, the less i want to go back to college and get a degree |
| 05:35.14 | grim | heh |
| 05:35.58 | nullpuppy | kergoth: hehe, yeah |
| 05:36.38 | grim | i went back because in the time i've been out of high school i could have gotten a BS, and since i don't have a degree, no one around here will hire me.. |
| 05:36.55 | kergoth | yeah, that sucks |
| 05:36.59 | kergoth | silly piece of paper |
| 05:37.09 | grim | no shit |
| 05:37.42 | kergoth | i make $70k doing 2.6 embedded linux kernel work for ti. no degree. was lucky though, knew people there. |
| 05:37.48 | kergoth | without a degree, you really cant go through HR at all |
| 05:37.53 | kergoth | need to network |
| 05:37.54 | grim | yeah |
| 05:38.02 | grim | reguardless of any past work.. |
| 05:38.08 | grim | which is just crazy.. |
| 05:38.15 | ChipX86 | I'm making good money at vmware. No degree. |
| 05:38.24 | grim | ChipX86: well you're an exception :P |
| 05:38.30 | ChipX86 | not really |
| 05:38.49 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: you got teh skillz so.. *shrugs* |
| 05:38.50 | kergoth | there _are_ companies willing to accept you on the basis of open source development experience |
| 05:38.55 | kergoth | not a great many, but.. |
| 05:38.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:38.58 | ChipX86 | I had a user who works at VMware :P |
| 05:39.06 | ChipX86 | kergoth: nod |
| 05:39.12 | ChipX86 | VMware is on the lookout for good open source developers |
| 05:39.15 | grim | my c++ teacher uses guifications :P |
| 05:39.42 | nullpuppy | i'm not sure i want to know what you mean by that... |
| 05:39.45 | ChipX86 | you just have to be good at what you do, fit in well with the company, and have a conveniently placed birthday so we can eat cake more often |
| 05:40.01 | grim | nullpuppy: http://guifications.sf.net |
| 05:40.02 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 05:40.18 | nullpuppy | oh. ok, thats far less disturbing that i thought ;) |
| 05:40.18 | grim | unless you were talking to ChipX86 ... |
| 05:40.44 | grim | ChipX86: did you ever get anywhere on libnotify? |
| 05:41.01 | ChipX86 | we're waiting for dbus 0.30, due to a bunch of D-BUS API changes |
| 05:41.11 | ChipX86 | then we're going to change a little bit of it and propose it for the next gnome again |
| 05:41.15 | ChipX86 | and integrate it into some apps |
| 05:41.19 | grim | ok, so i won't even bother with trying to implement that in gf3 yet.. :) |
| 05:41.29 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 05:41.37 | nullpuppy | gf3? |
| 05:41.40 | grim | then again.. i have a lot more of the lib to write anyways.. |
| 05:41.41 | ChipX86 | guifications 3 |
| 05:41.44 | grim | nullpuppy: GuiFications |
| 05:41.50 | nullpuppy | oh, ok :) |
| 05:41.57 | grim | gf is the namespace in the code.. |
| 05:42.12 | grim | theres no way in hell i was going to prefix every function with guifications_* |
| 05:42.25 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 05:42.28 | nullpuppy | that'd.. be hell |
| 05:42.32 | grim | yeah.. |
| 05:43.14 | nullpuppy | one of these days i should go back and rewrite ircopoly. haven't even finished the first run of it.. but it's pretty badly organized |
| 05:43.22 | grim | ChipX86: your link in your latest news on the galago site needs to have a / thrown on the front of it.. |
| 05:43.43 | grim | nullpuppy: guifications has gone through one major rewrite and i'm working on the second :) |
| 05:44.00 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 05:44.18 | grim | but the second is BIG :) |
| 05:44.25 | nullpuppy | grim: ircopoly is written entirely in perl, and kind of uses objects.. but i was still learning when i did it... |
| 05:44.29 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 05:44.32 | kergoth | ick |
| 05:44.33 | grim | gf3's main library is already bigger than the 1.x tree.. |
| 05:44.56 | grim | i don't think i want to know how exactly ircopoly would work :) |
| 05:46.37 | nullpuppy | grim: heheh :) |
| 05:47.11 | nullpuppy | grim: its quite simple really. irc bot :) |
| 05:47.45 | grim | nullpuppy: yeah.. i meant like how gameplay would be :) |
| 05:47.47 | nullpuppy | which is the main reason the code is so crappy, its all tied into the bot code in bad ways |
| 05:48.10 | grim | ah |
| 05:48.38 | nullpuppy | hmm, i should work on that tonight. not feeling very inspired to do anything else |
| 05:48.46 | grim | heh |
| 05:49.03 | grim | i'm debating some guifications work.. but i'm tired as hell.. |
| 05:49.26 | nullpuppy | yeah.. i should probably just go to bed.. but its not even 10pm yet, feels early still |
| 05:50.04 | ChipX86 | bcak |
| 05:50.29 | grim | damn you left coasters.. |
| 05:50.31 | grim | ;) |
| 05:50.51 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:51.28 | kergoth | i have a deadline tomorrow |
| 05:51.34 | kergoth | and lots and lots of work to do for it |
| 05:51.40 | kergoth | but i cant seem to concentrate on it :\ |
| 05:51.47 | nullpuppy | :( i hate that |
| 05:51.52 | grim | all i have to do tomorrow is go in and tutor for 3 hours :) |
| 06:04.15 | grim | wow it got quiet in here |
| 06:04.56 | ChipX86 | upgrading Jamie's new box |
| 06:05.10 | ChipX86 | then I should code something |
| 06:06.02 | grim | i was just reading microsoft's warning to parents about "leet" |
| 06:06.24 | grim | rather funny if i do say so myself.. http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx |
| 06:06.54 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 06:10.18 | kergoth | oh fuck it |
| 06:10.22 | kergoth | i'll be productive in the morning |
| 06:10.27 | grim | lol |
| 06:14.18 | lurgy | (as in "ph34r my l33t skillz") |
| 06:15.12 | grim | i'm surprised they didn't say s/i/!/ :) |
| 06:16.11 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 06:18.20 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 06:18.31 | nullpuppy | "Was this information useful?" "Yes | No" |
| 06:19.23 | grim | it should have been... "w@s th!s !nf0rm@t!0n us3fu7? 'j@ | n@h'" |
| 06:19.38 | nullpuppy | haha, yeah |
| 06:20.20 | grim | better yet.. "w@s t3h nf0 l33t?" |
| 06:20.38 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 07:43.59 | ChipX86 | well.. that was certainly strange |
| 07:44.17 | ChipX86 | you know how when you do laundry, you tend to lose socks? |
| 07:44.50 | purple_cow | nope |
| 07:44.57 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 07:45.09 | ChipX86 | well I somehow gained boxer shorts |
| 07:46.58 | grim | lol |
| 07:47.17 | purple_cow | cool |
| 07:47.45 | ChipX86 | I'm not really sure what to do with them |
| 07:49.58 | grim | night guys |
| 07:52.44 | ChipX86 | g'night |
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| 12:55.53 | KeyserSoze | and then they mention in passing that it's related to illegal activity that you need to keep your child from doing |
| 12:56.21 | KeyserSoze | er, grim's link, not kergoth's |
| 13:21.32 | TD | hmmm |
| 13:21.37 | TD | java is a very hard language to love |
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| 16:28.33 | kergoth_ | bleh |
| 16:33.02 | pb_ | quite |
| 17:01.29 | CosmicPenguin | man, I'm addicted to the Firefox quick searches |
| 17:01.50 | CosmicPenguin | Its so cool to type fm <package> in the url bar and hit enter |
| 17:02.01 | kergoth_ | ooh. i never use that |
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| 17:08.36 | mathrick | whoa |
| 17:08.51 | mathrick | surely it's long timeout here before I get disconnected |
| 17:09.14 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 17:14.22 | mathrick | huh? |
| 17:14.26 | mathrick | "Success"? |
| 17:14.55 | CosmicPenguin | There is nothing so sad as finding out you have a lame part message |
| 17:15.09 | mathrick | but it's not my part message |
| 17:15.16 | mathrick | I timed out, y'know |
| 17:15.53 | kergoth_ | Success is my favorite error message |
| 17:17.29 | mathrick | indeed |
| 17:17.41 | mathrick | it seems to be quite popular, too |
| 17:21.06 | kergoth_ | hehe. its a common mistake, to run something that touches errno before getting the old actual error value displayed |
| 17:21.27 | kergoth_ | errno is such a lame way to do error handling |
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| 18:05.02 | kergoth | morning ChipX86 |
| 18:05.09 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 18:20.03 | ChipX86 | which one? |
| 18:20.19 | purple_cow | just a big list of author matches |
| 18:20.25 | purple_cow | (for CIA) |
| 18:20.59 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 18:21.01 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:21.25 | scanline | hehe |
| 18:22.17 | ChipX86 | that should happen today! |
| 18:23.25 | scanline | anyone want to rummage for a list of CIA author names? |
| 18:23.26 | TD | heya guys |
| 18:24.11 | mathrick | yo TD |
| 18:24.47 | TD | heya |
| 18:25.07 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: I love those things. I have mine set up to just treat "g <query>" as a google search |
| 18:25.21 | TD | hmm, i just hit ctrl-k |
| 18:25.23 | TD | or j or whateer it is |
| 18:26.59 | TD | yeah, that'd be nice |
| 18:27.10 | TD | there was that LIDN thing a while back, but it never went anywhere |
| 18:29.12 | TD | man |
| 18:29.20 | TD | i would give all the smart bookmarks in the world for a firefox that didn't crash |
| 18:58.40 | nullpuppy | mm jello |
| 18:58.49 | ChipX86 | really, there's no better kind of love |
| 18:59.12 | ChipX86 | me neither |
| 18:59.57 | marv | ChipX86: you should say something about Gaim's autopackage. Because I'm bored, and haven't gotten much feedback. |
| 19:01.44 | ChipX86 | say it where? |
| 19:01.50 | ChipX86 | I plan to hype autopackage wherever possible |
| 19:01.55 | ChipX86 | just not sure how yet :) |
| 19:02.25 | CosmicPenguin | This room could use an appearance by the one and only ibot |
| 19:02.34 | ChipX86 | CosmicPenguin: we have purl |
| 19:02.43 | CosmicPenguin | never met him... |
| 19:02.44 | ChipX86 | er, s/just/should/ |
| 19:02.49 | ChipX86 | purl is essentially ibot |
| 19:03.07 | CosmicPenguin | purl: who are you? |
| 19:03.08 | purl | purl is probably something else |
| 19:03.17 | ChipX86 | purl: emulate gir |
| 19:03.18 | purl | you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way. |
| 19:03.31 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart CosmicPenguin |
| 19:03.40 | CosmicPenguin | excellent |
| 19:03.44 | scanline | yay |
| 19:03.46 | kergoth | purl/apt/ibot/jbot are the same blootbot |
| 19:03.54 | scanline | ahh |
| 19:03.56 | ChipX86 | now that gaea works again. *beats the crap out of his HTPC box* |
| 19:05.08 | marv | ChipX86: say it to me i mean |
| 19:05.19 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 19:05.43 | ChipX86 | I haven't actually used it yet. I need to do that. Actually... Jamie's box doesn't have a recent gaim in its feed, so I should try it there |
| 19:06.22 | ChipX86 | marv: can I get back to you in a couple of days on it though? My girlfriend's coming for the weekend, and I'm rushing to get everything ready before I head to work :/ |
| 19:07.35 | marv | ChipX86: sure |
| 19:25.12 | TD | hmm |
| 19:25.31 | TD | i wonder how easy it'd be to do a competent port of this spacegirl game using winelib+autopackage |
| 19:40.44 | marv | I don't understand why one would ever want to use winelib to "port" an ap |
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| 19:41.11 | TD | because it makes it about a million times less work, for exactly the same end result (from the end users POV) |
| 19:41.19 | TD | you'd probably want native UI though for a game there isn't much |
| 19:41.25 | TD | file io/network access etc, who cares? |
| 19:41.54 | marv | how is it a million times less work? |
| 19:42.01 | marv | what are you comparing it to? |
| 19:42.06 | kergoth | i'd say it depends on the design. |
| 19:42.18 | TD | porting CreateFile and friends to POSIX |
| 19:42.28 | kergoth | if you architect it from the beginning with the intent to run on both systems, i wouldtn see a large benefit from winelib, really |
| 19:42.34 | TD | oh, sure |
| 19:42.54 | marv | TD: i meant using winelib instead of shipping a native windows binary |
| 19:42.55 | kergoth | but if its a port down the line, then absolutely.. |
| 19:42.59 | TD | ah |
| 19:43.02 | TD | well you can do a partial port |
| 19:43.05 | TD | and then it works on PowerPC too |
| 19:43.18 | marv | you could just compile for ppc windows could you not? |
| 19:44.27 | TD | using what toolchain? |
| 19:44.31 | TD | ppc windows doesn't really exist anymore |
| 19:46.01 | marv | i don't know, port mingw to it? |
| 19:47.19 | marv | Guess what i'm saying is i don't understand the point of making windows elf binaries which if i understand correctly still need wine, when you could just use windows's binary format |
| 19:47.22 | mathrick | TD: what's the advantage of using winelib vs. using native binary and wine? |
| 19:47.34 | TD | with winelib you can do a partial port |
| 19:47.40 | TD | eg, give it a gtk ui but it can still use COM |
| 19:47.48 | mathrick | oh |
| 19:49.38 | marv | anyway, bbl |
| 19:50.49 | TD | that's why it's interesting, mostly. you can port an app to work around missing or bad bits of wine |
| 19:50.58 | TD | so native ui is one obvious one, audio apis is another |
| 19:51.17 | TD | then you can turn it into a regular package |
| 19:54.29 | mathrick | how well does it work in practice? |
| 19:54.45 | TD | nobody has much experience of it. there aren't many interesting open source win32 apps |
| 19:55.03 | mathrick | and how much work is it to just recompile win32 app with winelib and have it run? |
| 19:56.06 | TD | depends on a lot of things |
| 19:56.15 | TD | a lot of win32 apps are written in languages we can't actually compile |
| 19:56.19 | TD | or in the case of VB even parse |
| 19:56.33 | TD | for C it's pretty easy normally, we have a tool to convert the build system and fixup case issues etc |
| 19:56.45 | TD | for C++ it's usually less easy, usage of MSVC++ specific stuff is common. |
| 19:56.49 | TD | plus you have MFC/ATL to think about |
| 19:58.31 | mathrick | wine doesn't have MFC/ATL ? |
| 19:59.27 | TD | no |
| 19:59.32 | TD | they are "open source" though |
| 19:59.37 | TD | you can compile MFC on wine with a bit of work |
| 20:00.16 | mathrick | I see |
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| 21:43.05 | TD | oooh! |
| 21:43.11 | TD | it's THIS TRACK on swissgroove! |
| 21:43.16 | TD | the one i really really liked and wanted to know what it was |
| 21:54.18 | nullpuppy | swissgroove? |
| 22:14.10 | TD | .ch |
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