| 00:16.40 | ChipX86 | yay, crappy $15 umbrella |
| 00:17.09 | kergoth_ | you know, i dont think i've ever in my life owned an umbrella |
| 00:17.26 | marv | i do not own an umbrella, though we had some when i lived at home |
| 00:18.02 | kergoth_ | i refuse to run to my car when it rains, too. i'll be damned if i let some crappy weather make me hurry. fuck it. |
| 00:18.03 | CosmicPenguin | Umbrellas are oddly scarce in the American west |
| 00:18.29 | CosmicPenguin | I never owned one until I had to buy one for like 40 bucks on the streets of Venice |
| 00:19.36 | purple_cow | CosmicPenguin: i've noticed that they're a lot more common among women than men |
| 00:20.03 | CosmicPenguin | Thats not true across the pond though, is it? |
| 00:20.28 | purple_cow | well, most everyone in europe owns an umbrella just because it rains so much :) |
| 00:20.35 | CosmicPenguin | Everything I need to know about England I learned from Monty Python |
| 00:23.39 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:24.18 | CosmicPenguin | WHich is ok, because everything most Europeans wanted to know about Wyoming they learned from Bonanza |
| 00:24.48 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:30.05 | kergoth_ | hrm |
| 04:19.10 | grim | weird question, but i figured someone here might know what would cause a fsf.org to report a project as not a GNU package when it's licensed under the GPL and so on.. |
| 04:20.05 | ChipX86 | it's not under the GNU umbrella |
| 04:20.13 | grim | how so? |
| 04:20.27 | ChipX86 | well, it's like saying gaim-blogger is a gaim project |
| 04:20.44 | grim | ah gotcha.. |
| 04:20.56 | grim | so me adding #define _GNU_SOURCE to everything was pointless huh.. |
| 04:21.11 | kergoth | licensed under the GPL doesnt make it a gnu project. you're only officially gnu if they say so, you assign all your copyrights to the fsf, etc |
| 04:21.12 | ChipX86 | dunno, I can't remember what _GNU_SOURCE does :) |
| 04:21.35 | grim | turns on all this stuff.. i forget exactly what.. google it.. :) |
| 04:21.57 | grim | well i need to have them fix stuff too.. i'm not the bugs list :) |
| 05:51.39 | ChipX86 | TD needs to not be asleep |
| 06:11.18 | grim | wtf happened to my laptop.. |
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| 06:12.46 | xgrimx | grrr someone needs to make irc chans rejoin on disconnect... |
| 06:13.49 | xgrimx | ok and inactive chats should NOT emit a signal for everyone when they clear out their user lists.. |
| 06:13.57 | ChipX86 | ouch |
| 06:15.37 | xgrimx | yeah.. |
| 06:15.47 | xgrimx | all of a sudden i had a bajillion guifications popping up |
| 06:19.37 | xgrimx | dude, monty python and the holy grail is going on broadway... |
| 06:21.28 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 06:21.39 | xgrimx | eric idle is on the daily show right now.. |
| 07:02.18 | purple_cow | xgrimx: it's just the way of the world |
| 07:02.51 | xgrimx | purple_cow: it's like my 6th right now.. and i just don't have time for it... but it's something i've wanted to do for awhile, and the guy that started it shouldn't be doing it :) |
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| 16:26.27 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 16:26.28 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
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| 16:47.26 | karina23 | Who speaks in Russian? |
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| 17:24.01 | pb_ | hi treke |
| 17:28.29 | treke | morning |
| 17:43.13 | treke | sorry. forgot that was a bad word here |
| 17:43.32 | ChipX86 | grr mornings |
| 17:43.39 | ChipX86 | may i point you to http://www.cafepress.com/destroymornings |
| 17:44.36 | kergoth_ | so random question, how do you all organize your homedirs, specifically wrt code you're working on? |
| 17:44.57 | kergoth_ | i've been using ~/code/{user,kernel}/. in the past i used ~/code/{concept,projects}/... |
| 17:45.04 | CosmicPenguin | I almost never put code in my user dirs |
| 17:45.42 | CosmicPenguin | I usually popular /user/projects for code and /user/system for native apps I compile |
| 17:45.48 | CosmicPenguin | s/popular/populate/ |
| 17:46.25 | kergoth_ | i was thinking about breaking it out like that, but i started to wonder where exactly you draw the line. if you write a patch to fix a bug in an app you're compiling, does that belong in projects or system? |
| 17:46.39 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a toughy |
| 17:46.51 | treke | "organize" |
| 17:47.03 | kergoth_ | thats why i decided against that breakdown, but dunno what a better layout would be |
| 17:47.11 | CosmicPenguin | I guess if you do enough damage to it, it moves to projects |
| 17:47.20 | CosmicPenguin | Also, I consider projects as more of an ongoing sort of thing |
| 17:47.34 | kergoth_ | nod, projects are things you're a member of, or active contributer to |
| 17:47.37 | kergoth_ | not a one time modification |
| 17:49.56 | kergoth_ | i kinda like having a seperate 'concept' dir, to collect all the little useful code tidbits you gather over the years, and write whjile learning libs and languages |
| 17:50.08 | kergoth_ | unfortunately i lost mine long ago and never really got it back populated again |
| 17:50.11 | kergoth_ | :\ |
| 17:53.38 | kergoth_ | okay here's a question, what do you all do with your source archives, your tarballs and patch files? a ~/sources or ~/dl or something, or..? |
| 17:54.26 | pb_ | heh. I tend to just sprinkle them randomly around my home directory. |
| 17:54.44 | pb_ | I guess that wasn't quite the kind of advice you were looking for, though |
| 17:54.46 | kergoth_ | i used to keep a ~/dl and put them there, but then i tried sharing it with OE |
| 17:54.59 | kergoth_ | and then i inadvertantly wiped it when doing an oe build, and lost of bunch of files i needed |
| 17:55.02 | kergoth_ | so that didnt work so well |
| 17:55.07 | pb_ | doh |
| 17:55.15 | kergoth_ | now mine are sprinkled randomly about my homedir too |
| 17:56.37 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I try to keep mine in /user/packages/tarball |
| 17:56.43 | CosmicPenguin | but I usually do that about once every 6 months |
| 17:56.47 | CosmicPenguin | Which is bad |
| 17:57.07 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - these days, I sometimes pull directly from /var/tmp/oe-sources/ :) |
| 17:57.32 | kergoth_ | heh, yeah, i tend to do that quite a bit too. "shit, i need the sources for XYZ.. oh.. there they are" |
| 17:58.42 | CosmicPenguin | I have my opteron SRCDIR mirrored with http, so wget is always in order |
| 17:59.20 | pb_ | later all |
| 18:00.46 | CosmicPenguin | ach - I spilled my tea |
| 18:06.18 | kergoth_ | okay, i'm doing ~/code/{sources,concept,projects,system}/, where sources is for sources i actually care about. anything i dont really care about too much should go into ~/sources/ with my oe sources. |
| 18:07.31 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 18:20.21 | kergoth_ | gah! |
| 18:20.38 | kergoth_ | TD[gone]: i really hate that you cant just move svk checkouts in the filesystem without telling it about it |
| 18:20.49 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what sucks about perforce |
| 18:20.58 | CosmicPenguin | you can't move checkouts at all |
| 18:21.00 | kergoth_ | its nice on the one hand, because you dont have all this metadata floating around |
| 18:21.14 | kergoth_ | but on the other, you have to inform it about changes, since it tracks checkouts |
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| 18:43.54 | TD | kergoth: do you do that very often? |
| 18:44.09 | kergoth | not very |
| 18:44.12 | kergoth | you know whats really annoying |
| 18:44.16 | kergoth | is that you cant relocate after the fact. |
| 18:44.18 | kergoth | if i physically moved it |
| 18:44.21 | kergoth | and go to svk co --relocate |
| 18:44.22 | kergoth | you cant. |
| 18:44.29 | kergoth | you have to move the trees back to the old position |
| 18:44.32 | kergoth | and svk relocate them |
| 18:44.33 | TD | huh |
| 18:44.35 | TD | that does suck |
| 18:44.39 | TD | *shrug* |
| 18:44.49 | kergoth | which is just lame. its manipulating a db, there's no need for it to do the mv for me |
| 18:44.52 | kergoth | ah well |
| 18:46.44 | TD | it could probably be fixed |
| 18:46.50 | TD | the code is pretty clean and easy to hack from what i've seen |
| 18:46.53 | kergoth | cool |
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| 22:37.57 | treke | pb_: so far I rather like this V551 |
| 22:40.43 | pb_ | ah, cool, the motorola? |
| 22:41.10 | pb_ | I'll have to check that out next time I'm near a phone store. |
| 22:43.29 | treke | yeah |
| 22:44.06 | treke | though to be fair I'm not very demanding about phones |
| 22:44.19 | pb_ | heh |
| 22:44.24 | pb_ | me neither, to be honest |
| 22:48.28 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: so.. does amd have any embedded positions open atm? |
| 23:07.02 | treke | now I need one of those bluetooth thingies for the car |
| 23:07.04 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: dunno - let me check |
| 23:07.49 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... is it time to get OLS reservations yet? |
| 23:08.03 | kergoth | hmm, good piont, should check into that |
| 23:08.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:08.20 | kergoth | i havent done my expense report for last years ols yet |
| 23:08.36 | kergoth | my business amex is ready to hunt me down and slit my throat or something. owe them like 12 months of late charges |
| 23:08.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:10.31 | treke | time for a concealed carry permit |
| 23:15.49 | CosmicPenguin | hmm... there's a job posted for a software engineering manager on the AMD website |
| 23:16.01 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - I didn't know there was an opening... :) |
| 23:16.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:17.12 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: http://www2.amd.com/us-en/Job_Opps/Display/1,,119,00.html |
| 23:17.19 | CosmicPenguin | That ones not embedded though - its on the CPG side |
| 23:17.22 | CosmicPenguin | opterons and shit |
| 23:17.31 | kergoth | nod |
| 23:17.40 | kergoth | you know, its really hard to job hunt when i dont know what i'm looking for |