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| 13:54.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bugtracker |
| 13:54.02 | infobot | bugtracker is, like, https://devuan.org/os/issues (soon) |
| 13:54.37 | Akuli | ~bug |
| 13:54.37 | infobot | bug is probably n: A son of a glitch. An error in design or programming in hardware or software. Effects range from cosmetic errors to system crash and loss of data. See also Feature. |
| 13:54.50 | Akuli | ~wtf wtf |
| 13:54.55 | Akuli | nice :) |
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| 13:58.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Piki: ^^^ |
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| 14:05.13 | Piki | hmm, reportbug, doesn't that require email? |
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| 14:07.48 | Akuli | DocScrutinizer05, i thought you were pointing an op to my wtf tests :D |
| 14:07.50 | Akuli | lol |
| 14:08.33 | Piki | this is my first visit to this channel :-) |
| 14:09.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | Akuli: I wouldn't do that - I'm an op myself ;-) |
| 14:09.46 | Akuli | :) |
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| 14:09.59 | Akuli | this is just the opposite of linux mint channels :) |
| 14:10.15 | Akuli | there's about 250 people there, and many get kicked out every day |
| 14:11.16 | Piki | sounds like fun |
| 14:14.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | when kicking is common, that somewhat defeats the purpose |
| 14:15.15 | Akuli | the ops there say that kick is a warning, and a kickban is not :) |
| 14:15.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's sort of right |
| 14:15.44 | Akuli | i would never come back to a channel i've been kicked from |
| 14:15.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | but a warning should get issued in a more polite way |
| 14:15.59 | Akuli | people would probably kick me again |
| 14:16.24 | djph | the mint channels are ... a cesspool, tbh ... |
| 14:16.53 | djph | ther are a few decent people, but few and far between ... |
| 14:17.11 | Piki | warnings should come before the kicks, kicks should be more of an "I'm serious about the warning" thing in my opinion. |
| 14:17.41 | djph | depends on which op you run across ... I'm a bit surprised I've not been kicked yet |
| 14:18.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://freenode.net/policies http://freenode.net/catalysts |
| 14:18.44 | Piki | lucky for me, i don't use mint |
| 14:19.46 | djph | I don't either, anymore ... devuan jessie is my daily driver now |
| 14:20.04 | Akuli | this computer still runs ubuntu |
| 14:20.40 | Akuli | i'd install devuan here too, but wicd doesn't support mobile broadband connections |
| 14:21.49 | Piki | wicd isn't the only networking tool available to devuan |
| 14:22.32 | Akuli | yes, other than doing it the manual way :) |
| 14:23.18 | Piki | there's a bit of manual work involved, even using things like networkmanager and wpa_supplicant :-) |
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| 14:23.49 | Akuli | does networkmanager run on devuan? |
| 14:23.55 | Akuli | i thought it depends on systemd |
| 14:25.20 | Piki | i thought it was init system independent? i remember using it on Debian Wheezy with systemv. |
| 14:25.38 | Akuli | maybe it was an old version of it? |
| 14:25.47 | Akuli | i think pclinuxos is also using it.. |
| 14:26.42 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.42 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.45 | Piki | everything on Debian is old |
| 14:26.59 | fsmithred | that's the appeal for some of us |
| 14:27.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | old=good |
| 14:27.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | or dead |
| 14:27.51 | fsmithred | right. |
| 14:28.10 | fsmithred | if it's not dead, that's because it works |
| 14:28.41 | Piki | sure, but they take it too for in my opinion. certain packages should be updated frequently (mostly web browsers, it's frustrating getting blocked from sites with a "your browser is too old" message) |
| 14:29.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | who needs such pages? |
| 14:30.02 | fsmithred | I don't get that message. |
| 14:30.07 | Piki | those of us with jobs that require us to go to those pages |
| 14:30.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | I rarely do |
| 14:30.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I could say you got an odd job, but that's prolly a tad mean ;-) |
| 14:30.49 | fsmithred | I get messages about how my experience would be so much better if I'd let random websites run code on my computer. |
| 14:30.56 | Piki | i used to, in firefox (or "Iceweasel" bleah), before discovering backports |
| 14:31.45 | Piki | or use some non-Linux-friendly browser |
| 14:31.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, my Konqueror probably doesn't even know _how_ to display such "your browser is too old" ;-P |
| 14:32.49 | Piki | if it's compiled with webkit support, you probably don't need to worry about it :-) |
| 14:32.54 | golinux | armin: I just corrected the typo you posted. Thanks for reporting it. |
| 14:33.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | Piki: I occasionally do, when e.g. slack acts up in konqueror |
| 14:34.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | or when all those new git* things render 10 minutes for each scroll, since some fool thought it was a great idead to omplement each char on each line as a single JS-object |
| 14:34.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | idea to implement* |
| 14:36.41 | Piki | i can't even enable javascript at home, i'm stuck on a fossil that can't even run Firefox |
| 14:37.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch |
| 14:37.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | not for JS, you're prolly actually better off without it, but for the fossil |
| 14:38.03 | Piki | the joys of being poor... |
| 14:40.08 | Piki | quick change of subject: how can i tell reportbug to send to Devuan's bug reporting server? i can't say i've ever used it, and i can't find the option for it. |
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| 14:50.13 | Akuli | KatolaZ, i'm not in a hurry or anything, i'm just curious. what have you made so far? |
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| 15:43.00 | edbarx | Weird but seems to work. |
| 15:43.15 | edbarx | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:43.59 | hellekin | Piki: it's not there yet |
| 15:44.20 | hellekin | I updated https://devuan.org/os/issues with alternatives |
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| 15:56.11 | KatolaZ | Akuli: not that much |
| 15:56.42 | Akuli | :) |
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| 16:12.34 | armin | golinux: nice! thanks for this. keep up the good work. ;) |
| 16:13.41 | golinux | It may take a while for it to appear live. I don't have those magic powers (and that's a good thing) |
| 16:17.52 | armin | golinux: i should be thankful that someone cares about a single byte. |
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| 17:08.54 | Akuli | i wonder if i should translate some devuan wiki stuff to finnish |
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| 21:40.06 | temple-runner | whats your stance on kdbus? if it gets integrated to the kernel , are you guys gonna fork it ? |
| 21:40.27 | fbt | kdbus is dead |
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| 21:41.12 | fbt | There is another kernelspace IPC that is being developed though |
| 21:41.13 | fbt | https://github.com/bus1/bus1 |
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| 21:41.39 | MinceR | maybe bus1 will be less atrocious |
| 21:41.42 | temple-runner | is this also from RH based devs? |
| 21:42.47 | temple-runner | like poettering |
| 21:43.53 | temple-runner | oh its from the same stable |
| 21:44.39 | Chanku | ? |
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| 21:46.58 | golinux | That troll didn't last for long . . . |
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| 21:52.28 | fubata | I want to test devuan via kvm/qemu. But I can't find the image "devuan_jessie_beta_amd64.qcow2" on https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/. There are qcow2 files for "cloud" and "opennebula". |
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