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| 00:15.39 | mister_zombie | Hi, I have a slight problem regarding bluetooth, namely, my controller can't be found. |
| 00:16.13 | mister_zombie | (Even though the module is loaded and rfkill lists an acer-bluetooth module, neither blueman nor bluetoothctl are able to find it.) |
| 00:17.19 | mister_zombie | Reason this is a problem: As a parent, I'm no longer allowed to Netflix-and-chill, and now have to resort to Netflix-and-chores. Easier with bluetooth-enabled headphones. |
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| 00:19.23 | mister_zombie | rfkill output: http://pastebin.com/Qqg9Rvj9 |
| 00:21.11 | mister_zombie | lsmod | grep ^bluetooth outputs "bluetooth 374429 8 bnep,ath3k,btusb,rfcomm" |
| 00:22.12 | mister_zombie | dmesg | grep -i bluetooth: http://pastebin.com/YBTA80rt |
| 00:25.44 | mister_zombie | bluetoothctl "session": http://pastebin.com/8eY8YrHN |
| 00:26.15 | mister_zombie | So yeah I'm kinda stumped, any hint would be extremely appreciated |
| 00:27.20 | mister_zombie | Many thanks in advance. Sorry for the spam. |
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| 01:42.37 | ksx4system | mister_zombie: you might need bluez (and unfortunately this has dependencies on pulseaudio malware) |
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| 01:57.30 | mister_zombie | NAAAAAY |
| 02:03.25 | pydsigner | do not want |
| 02:03.28 | pydsigner | Also y |
| 02:03.45 | pydsigner | Why does *bluetooth* *require* pulse |
| 02:04.03 | pydsigner | I can see where it might be used for bluetooth audio devices |
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| 02:25.12 | fsmithred | bluez needs libpulse0 and another libpulse, but not pulseaudio itself.And both libraries have been devuanized, so they don't need any systemd stuff. |
| 02:26.07 | fsmithred | no, that's wrong. I must have libpulse for something else. |
| 02:26.35 | fsmithred | audacious |
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| 02:45.27 | golinux | I think PA is needed for orca. |
| 02:49.04 | mister_zombie | Wait so that means I can bluez? |
| 02:49.52 | mister_zombie | Darnit. already had it. |
| 02:53.51 | mister_zombie | Hm. hciconfig shows no bluetooth devices. |
| 02:54.15 | mister_zombie | Nor does hcitool dev |
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| 14:14.34 | bpmedley | http://imgur.com/qkJu3zP <-- I'm having an issue with the install. Is this a known problem, or did I make a mistake? |
| 14:17.31 | flrn | bpmedley: looks like return to installer main menu and repeat last step. |
| 14:17.48 | flrn | it will only download missing packages. |
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| 14:24.50 | bpmedley | flrn: Worked!! |
| 14:25.10 | flrn | :) |
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| 16:33.20 | trevorius | Heya peoples. I was wondering if anybody has any info on when the 1.0beta2.iso is going to be available. I'm plagued by a "cannot determine release name" bug. :( |
| 16:35.54 | trevorius | Actually it's "Failed to determine the codename for the release." |
| 16:53.45 | flrn | trevorius: what's giving you this error message? |
| 16:55.12 | flrn | depending on what it's looking for, it might be sufficient to create a /etc/debian_version or edit /etc/devuan_version resp. /etc/os-release |
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| 17:17.21 | trevorius | it was already on a bug report but I can't find the report anymore. One of the comments said it would be fixed for the 1.0beta2 release. The installer is what gives the error message, and it happens when it tries to access the internet. |
| 17:18.36 | trevorius | The only internet access I currently have is usb tethering via a cell phone, and the installer doesn't recognize and utilize that connection. Somebody, somewhere I can't find anymore, said it was or would be fixed in the next release, so I was just seeing when that was gonna be |
| 17:24.03 | flrn | trevorius: oh, I see. i have no clue of devuan's timetable. |
| 17:27.03 | flrn | there's no other computer around to use as wifi access point or ethernet bridge? |
| 17:37.08 | trevorius | no, not at the time. I'm considering just taking it somewhere with ethernet and doing the installation there, but as it's a desktop, that's a pretty damn big hassle. It's hard to find three or four hours to do all that. |
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| 17:54.04 | DeeEff | hey devuan. I got a minimal system installed and working on my desktop, but can't seem to get X to start. I want to use LDM and AwesomeWM. Any advice for how to get X up and working? |
| 17:54.48 | trevorius | startx? |
| 17:55.41 | DeeEff | command not found :S |
| 17:56.00 | telst4r | apt-get install xinit xauth xserver-xorg-core ? |
| 17:56.17 | DeeEff | ah xinit wasn't installed |
| 17:56.21 | DeeEff | why would ldm install without xinit |
| 17:56.50 | DeeEff | aha! `sudo startx` works great now |
| 17:56.56 | DeeEff | not sure why it won't run as user though |
| 17:58.24 | telst4r | That's odd. I'd guess some user/group permission issues |
| 17:58.28 | telst4r | usually. |
| 17:58.34 | DeeEff | seems to be a grsec thing |
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| 17:59.22 | trevorius | does devuan have grsecurity by default? |
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| 17:59.45 | DeeEff | I chose the grsec kernel on installation |
| 18:00.32 | telst4r | I guess you're supposed to install a graphical login manager and not start the X as normal user |
| 18:00.44 | DeeEff | yes, any suggestions for which graphical login manager? |
| 18:00.46 | telst4r | (the login manager would start X) |
| 18:01.11 | DeeEff | so far I wanted to use LDM or SLIM, but can't get either working (SLIM won't install due to some libpng12-0 error or something) |
| 18:01.42 | trevorius | LDM is nice |
| 18:01.56 | telst4r | for years I've used SLIM as well, but now I've switched to LightDM |
| 18:04.07 | trevorius | if you can get it to work, that is |
| 18:05.42 | DeeEff | well I'm trying lightDM |
| 18:05.53 | DeeEff | I guess it install consolekit / policykit but they're necessary evils |
| 18:10.59 | fsmithred | using lightdm here with no problems |
| 18:11.35 | fsmithred | slim is the default dm if you install a desktop |
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| 18:16.56 | DeeEff | fsmithred: I can't seem to install slim, because it complains about a broken libpng12 or something |
| 18:18.02 | telst4r | Does LightDM actually 'need' consolekit/policykit or is it just Lennartism? |
| 18:18.46 | DeeEff | telst4r: I have no idea, it installs them as dependencies |
| 18:18.50 | DeeEff | probably becasue it uses logind |
| 18:20.06 | telst4r | ah. |
| 18:22.24 | fsmithred | no systemd components are needed for lightdm, and I think the consolekit dep is older than systemd |
| 18:23.18 | fsmithred | the kit stuff is there so user can shutdown/reboot |
| 18:23.47 | fsmithred | DeeEff, ^^^ |
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| 18:25.34 | telst4r | so no, not really a dependency, but as a desktop user it's nice to be able to shutdown/reboot as a user. hence policykit is okay. |
| 18:30.19 | fsmithred | policykit-1 has been devuanized, so it doesn't need the big D. |
| 18:31.45 | telst4r | Yep |
| 18:32.34 | DeeEff | hrm, I seem to be having troubles with a lot of things here. |
| 18:32.47 | DeeEff | I may reinstall with ascii instead of ceres and see if I can install a DM to start with |
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| 21:28.33 | DeeEff | hey, I still can't use startx as a regular user |
| 21:28.39 | DeeEff | any ideas what could be causing this? |
| 21:32.08 | NeonLicht | Not permission to do so, DeeEff? What error do you get when you try running it? |
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| 21:35.17 | DeeEff | seems I get a grsec error when running as user. |
| 21:35.59 | DeeEff | Seems I am "Unable to get master: permission denied" |
| 22:00.49 | DeeEff | after removing the grsec kernel it all appears to work now |
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