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| 04:11.23 | Centurion_Dan | you need to write to those blocks, and only then when the write fails will it finally re-allocate them. This is where raid comes in to it |
| 04:17.34 | Centurion_Dan | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.29 | Centurion_Dan | DocScrutinizer05: Your disk is stuffed, you better replace it. |
| 04:19.28 | furrywolf | I've never had a modern drive have "just a couple" bad blocks. by the time you see ANY hard-failed blocks, the drive is garbage. |
| 04:20.33 | furrywolf | modern drives have spare capacity and re-map bad blocks on the fly. by the time you see blocks that you're unable to write to, its only because all of the spare capacity is filled and the drive can't transparently remap any more failures. |
| 04:25.48 | Centurion_Dan | furrywolf: Generally speaking once a drive starts to accumulate pending sectors, it's already failing and probably lost data. I find often that a disk is usually getting slower and slower long before it ever indicates bad sectors - so the thing to watch is the read/write performance on the drive and when it's performance starts to drop off noticeably, then it's time to replace it. |
| 04:26.30 | furrywolf | as I said... by the time you see the failed writes, it's garbage. :) |
| 04:27.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | Centurion_Dan: I already did |
| 04:27.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 04:27.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ny a decent RAID of server grade HDDs |
| 04:27.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | by* |
| 04:29.08 | Centurion_Dan | good ;-) |
| 04:29.17 | Centurion_Dan | bbl ... dishes to do... |
| 04:29.33 | furrywolf | and bbl here too... sleeping to do. |
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| 04:46.31 | Centurion_Dan | ;-P |
| 04:47.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway filed reads here |
| 04:47.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | failed* |
| 04:49.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | waiting for writes to defect blocks to finally remap them makes a whole lot of sense. Thanks for helping me out of that dead spot |
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| 05:32.42 | Centurion_Dan | DocScrutinizer05: if you force the raid to do a sync then it will detect and recover the bad blocks (assuming they are within the constraints of the raid array). |
| 05:33.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | the bad disk isn't in a raid |
| 05:33.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it got replaced by a raid |
| 05:34.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | now it's basically idle and I wonder what to do with it |
| 05:35.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | I ponder to use hdparm to handle the bad blocks |
| 05:41.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | --read-sector and --repair-sector |
| 05:47.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | golden: >> A value of 252 signifies a timeout of 21 minutes. A value of 253 sets a vendor-defined timeout period between 8 and 12 hours, and the value 254 is reserved. 255 is interpreted as 21 minutes plus 15 seconds.<< |
| 05:49.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>The encoding of the timeout value is somewhat peculiar.<< quite true |
| 05:51.51 | Centurion_Dan | Are you keeping the disk around for some reason?? |
| 05:52.09 | Centurion_Dan | bbl ... dinner :-P |
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| 06:04.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | mainly to see how long it takes until it explodes |
| 06:04.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;) |
| 06:12.23 | detha | Exercise it. Divide it into two equal partitions, write the one full of /dev/urandom, copy to the other. Repeat with both partitions swapped. |
| 06:42.02 | Centurion_Dan | ah, then I suggest running a bunch of the disk test tools - something like bonnie++ or iozone. |
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| 06:47.59 | Centurion_Dan | DocScrutinizer05: you may get the best chance at killing it by isolating repetitive tests to a range of sectors around those marked as pending. It seem from my experience that windows is great at killing drives, because it keeps trying to re-read the same dodgy sectors over and over again creating a hot spot on the hdd which then expands until it causes the heads to shit themselves usually destroying significant key areas of disk at the sa |
| 06:49.07 | Centurion_Dan | I've seen the same with linux, but never at the same rate as I've seen windows toast hdd's. |
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| 09:09.57 | aitor | Sorry, the version of linux-base in packages.gnuinos.org was the same than jessie's |
| 09:10.10 | aitor | I uploaded linux-base-4.4 |
| 09:11.42 | aitor | Today is my birthday (i haven't any facebook account) |
| 09:13.22 | fsmithred | happy birthday! |
| 09:13.49 | fsmithred | and congrats on no facebook account |
| 09:13.52 | aitor | Thanks :) |
| 09:14.46 | aitor | Where is my T-shirt? |
| 09:15.51 | fsmithred | I have no control over t-shirts |
| 09:16.35 | aitor | Ok :( |
| 09:17.15 | fsmithred | so, do we know what the final instructions are for booting with vdev? |
| 09:19.04 | aitor | We'll have to analyze the package *vdev-example* |
| 09:19.29 | fsmithred | that's a separate package? |
| 09:19.58 | aitor | Yes |
| 09:19.59 | aitor | http://packages.gnuinos.org/pool/main/v/vdev/ |
| 09:20.18 | fsmithred | should be able to apt-get it? |
| 09:20.25 | fsmithred | I'm booting test system now. |
| 09:21.10 | fsmithred | oh. i already have it. |
| 09:21.55 | aitor | Of course, you have the instructions about how to add the repositories in the website: |
| 09:21.59 | aitor | www.gnuinos.org |
| 09:22.04 | fsmithred | already added |
| 09:22.30 | fsmithred | there's nothing in the vdev-example docs except changelog and copyright |
| 09:25.05 | aitor | There is a /etc folder |
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| 09:25.51 | aitor | See you later |
| 09:25.58 | fsmithred | bye |
| 09:26.13 | aitor | The limousine is waiting outside |
| 09:26.20 | fsmithred | have fun |
| 09:26.22 | aitor | Today i travel in limousine |
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| 12:47.59 | nixe | Hi there. |
| 12:48.37 | nixe | I'd like to replace dbus, policykit-1 and util-linux and prbably pulseaudio with poiteringfree binaries. |
| 12:48.57 | nixe | I added sme known systemd-free repsitries to my sources and did: |
| 12:49.03 | nixe | apt-get --reinstall install dbus |
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| 12:49.11 | nixe | after apt-get update |
| 12:49.19 | nixe | But it cannot be reinstalled :( |
| 12:49.41 | nixe | Does there binaries exist which are sdfree? |
| 12:49.58 | nixe | Thx! :9 |
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