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| 01:16.41 | jesus_ | hi all :) its posible apt-pinning on devuan |
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| 02:02.17 | jesus_ | please,give any advice |
| 02:03.10 | MinceR | it probably works the same way as on debian |
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| 08:34.26 | jaromil | mirrors updated (to notice golinux later) |
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| 09:01.31 | Centurion_Dan | o/ |
| 09:02.00 | Centurion_Dan | jaromil: :-) |
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| 14:11.44 | OmegaPhil | Hmm. Is it correct to say that devuan's goal atm isn't to remove libsystemd0? |
| 14:11.53 | OmegaPhil | Still a lot of stuff depending on it |
| 14:12.04 | OmegaPhil | is migrating his main machines now |
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| 14:27.52 | golinux | OmegaPhil: I only have libsystemd0 installed. I don't like that and hope it will go away by the release |
| 14:28.07 | OmegaPhil | Yeah, same |
| 14:28.26 | OmegaPhil | Just thinking about it as its a purge target in https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Upgrade-to-Devuan |
| 14:29.14 | OmegaPhil | So far, it looks like the only problem with migrating Debian Testing to Devuan Ascii is https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/upower/issues/9 |
| 14:29.46 | golinux | And then there is that /etc/systemd directory I have no idea what it does |
| 14:29.46 | OmegaPhil | XFCE has decided it can only log out (rather than shutdown, suspend etc), so looking into that now |
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| 14:48.34 | rendar | i was doing some tests with raspbian, i have manually uninstalled systemd. When i try to install bluetooth drivers, it's ok but then the bluetooth device will be recognized by the kernel, but not from user's mode utilities such as hciconfig or bluetoothctl.. can be this due some bug activated by systemd missing? if so, this may be of interest to the devuan community. For instance, does bluetooth |
| 14:48.34 | rendar | work in rpi3 with devuan? |
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| 15:53.06 | OmegaPhil | Centurion_Dan: Is there anything that I can do to help https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/upower/issues/9#note_7612 progress? I have some Debian packaging experience |
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| 16:40.34 | lkcl | does anyone know what the compiler flags are for graphics-related libraries are in devuan's packages? |
| 16:41.12 | lkcl | a comment from archlinux-arm developer (which is much slower performance on graphics) |
| 16:41.16 | lkcl | WarheadsSE> lkcl: the _only_ thing I can see possibly affecting yout issue, is that ALARM doesn't build wiht NEON and thus vfpv4-d32 vs our default least-common-denominator of cortex-a vfp3-d16 |
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| 17:11.25 | kadiro | hello, I'm thinking to try devuan distro, the only problem i have is i can't access the internet without my wifi device, how i can install it if it is not included on the iso, and another question is about vdr package and its modules if available in this distro? |
| 17:15.20 | kadiro | lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n |
| 17:22.35 | Akuli | kadiro, is it this one? https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 17:25.05 | kadiro | Akuli, i think https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc according to lsmod command |
| 17:25.34 | Akuli | "Firmware is required, which can be provided by installing the firmware-atheros package. Open firmware for this driver is also available." |
| 17:25.56 | Akuli | so i guess you can just download that, save it to a usb stick or a partition, mount it and dpkg -i the package before you get started with installing |
| 17:26.05 | Akuli | except wait dpkg is not installed before the setup starts... |
| 17:26.22 | Akuli | does anyone else know what to do? |
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| 17:28.19 | kadiro | Akuli, according to the link, must have a wired ethernet to add the repo and update&install |
| 17:28.50 | Akuli | then you might be able to install using debootstrap directly |
| 17:29.12 | Akuli | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 17:29.25 | Akuli | there's probably a better way, but if you can't come up with anything else you can do that |
| 17:32.44 | kadiro | need more knowledge: "As this is a mostly manual procedure, you should bear in mind that you will need to do a lot of basic configuration of the system yourself, which will also require more knowledge of Debian and of Linux in general than performing a regular installation." |
| 17:33.14 | Akuli | actually, when you've gotten it installed it's easy to keep going from there :) |
| 17:33.14 | kadiro | thanks anyway Akuli :) |
| 17:33.34 | Akuli | of course, keep an installation cd of your favorite distro around in case something goes wrong :) |
| 17:34.12 | Akuli | you also can't install to the partition you've booted from... so this is not the best possible way to install devuan |
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| 18:10.31 | lkcl | kadiro: connect with an ethernet cable temporarily then "apt-get install firmware-atheros". |
| 18:10.55 | Akuli | does the installation cd come with apt-get |
| 18:10.58 | lkcl | kadiro: actually, firmware-atheros should already be on the CD/DVD. |
| 18:11.04 | lkcl | Akuli: of course it does!! |
| 18:11.05 | Akuli | as far as i know the buzybox shell is pretty minimal |
| 18:11.21 | lkcl | Akuli: oh wait.. this is during *actual* installation, isn't it? |
| 18:11.34 | Akuli | what do you mean? |
| 18:11.51 | Akuli | i'm also not sure if kadiro has a temporary ethernet connection :) |
| 18:12.17 | lkcl | Akuli: 1sec let's find out... yeah because there's a bug in devuan's debian-installer (i did advise them not to mess with it...) |
| 18:12.40 | lkcl | where without realising how complex it is they accidentally destroyed the ability to carry out an install without internet access. |
| 18:15.44 | OmegaPhil | Lol?? 114% funded? |
| 18:16.00 | OmegaPhil | You mustve had some good people at the end.. |
| 18:16.08 | OmegaPhil | Congrats lkcl |
| 18:16.27 | OmegaPhil | has just been told his money has been taken ;) |
| 18:18.54 | minnesotags | Kadiro and Akuli, you download the firmware to USB. There is a point in the installer when it asks if you want to install firmware. |
| 18:19.02 | Akuli | neat |
| 18:19.08 | Akuli | somehow i've never noticed that :) |
| 18:20.39 | lkcl | OmegaPhil: yeah :) |
| 18:22.02 | OmegaPhil | waits for his octacore 16GB RAM card to be posted in a few months |
| 18:22.05 | lkcl | minnesotags: surely it should already be on the CD/DVD as it's a libre package (firmware-atheros)... argh no it isn't, despite the ath9k_htc ar9271 and 9170 being libre |
| 18:22.07 | lkcl | bleuch |
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| 18:28.13 | kadiro | so my wifi is available on the cd? |
| 18:32.32 | kadiro | ok i take it as yes, what about vdr , i can't find it on the package list https://git.devuan.org/search?search=vdr&utf8=%E2%9C%93&go=search+packages |
| 18:35.14 | kadiro | I downloaded the firmware here https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-atheros/download i hope it is the right one, just in case it is not on the cd |
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| 20:46.49 | minnesotags | kadiro, lkcl, Akuli, I've found it's always easier to make sure I have the non-free and other firmware copied to a USB in case there is an issue during installs. |
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| 20:52.12 | Akuli | hopes everything goes well |
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| 21:07.48 | kadiro | hello, its me again, i booted the devuan iso, i choose the gui install, everything look good in the begining until, the network config, it choose eth0 and dhcp thing then it fail, i tried again and again, same .. anyway, i jumped that step and going until the install ( / , swap .. etc ) and when continue it crash in the middle of the format of "/", and say something deboo.. didn't find system version or something like that, i copied the firmware in |
| 21:07.48 | kadiro | the usb but the there is no way to access it |
| 21:08.41 | Akuli | is your firmware just a .deb package? |
| 21:08.49 | Akuli | i believe you could dpkg -i it |
| 21:09.17 | Akuli | of course, switch to another tty, find and mount the stick and you know all that stuff |
| 21:12.38 | kadiro | sorry i lost the signal, yeah it is deb |
| 21:13.05 | kadiro | Akuli, the problem there is only one window on the install stuff no desktop |
| 21:13.14 | Akuli | of course not :) |
| 21:13.17 | Akuli | but you have the standard 7 tty's |
| 21:13.30 | Akuli | Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get you to another one, Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get back |
| 21:14.05 | Akuli | i guess you know how to find your usb stick with ls /dev/disk/by_whatever and mount it to some nice place? |
| 21:14.26 | Akuli | should be pretty straight-forward because you've installed arch |
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| 21:26.38 | kadiro | sorry i have problem on my internet side |
| 21:27.14 | kadiro | Akuli, thanks, i will try in the morning using tty |
| 21:28.09 | Akuli | oh right you're on the same timezone as i am |
| 21:28.19 | Akuli | and its pretty late... :D |
| 21:28.31 | kadiro | yeah it is dark :D |
| 21:28.38 | kadiro | tty is also dark o_o |
| 21:28.41 | Akuli | :) |
| 21:28.43 | Akuli | see you tomorrow |
| 21:29.07 | kadiro | thanks, but i have 3 or 4 hours before sleep :D |
| 21:29.25 | kadiro | i'm a zombie man :/ |
| 21:30.20 | Akuli | lol |
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