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| 01:04.01 | Centurion_Dan | rrq: I was thinking of building it in -proposed-backports first. Backports is definitely the right place for it along with experimental so it can get more testing before migrating to unstable and testing. I would definitely not let it go into jessie-updates as that's only for updates to stable packages... |
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| 01:25.44 | rrq | right. my misunderstanding. |
| 01:26.47 | fsmithred | I fixed my display problem. Just needed to install python-xdg |
| 01:28.12 | rrq | eh? not vdev related then? or something missing in its packaging? |
| 01:28.30 | fsmithred | something missing for xdg-autostart |
| 01:28.48 | fsmithred | nothing to do with vdev |
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| 09:52.29 | Digit | wonders if soon-ish is up yet/soon-er and where he'd look to see that. re: [2016-09- 3 21:27:13] <jaromil> we'll release a "devuan sdk" consolidating all those tasks soon-ish |
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| 10:00.58 | Digit | rummaging around installing devuan in virtualbox with intent to meddle with refracta-tools on it |
| 10:07.02 | Digit | :) i see on the refracta forum some peeps had some devuan action with refracta a couple days after i asked about remastery in here. :) |
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| 13:06.39 | rafalcpp | is LXC working on Devuan? |
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| 13:07.27 | rafalcpp | lxc-check says in red "Cgroup namespace: required" |
| 13:14.00 | rafalcpp | can someone on Devuan also run "lxc-check" and confirm that all fields are green, except for red "Cgroup namespace: required" ? |
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| 14:55.54 | rafalcpp | Is Devuan network working correctly? |
| 14:56.00 | rafalcpp | http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/x/xen/libxenstore3.0_4.4.1-9+deb8u6_amd64.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.250 80] |
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| 14:57.47 | rafalcpp | hellekin: hi I see you opened issue https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/lxc/issues/1 . I was wondering if you seen a related bug, that is: is LXC working for you *on* Devuan host at all? |
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| 19:53.47 | edbarx | Finally booted Jessie in EFI mode. GRUB2 is still unable to boot. I had to borrow the bootloader from Jessie's installation CD. |
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| 19:57.10 | fsmithred | edbarx, if you have grub-efi-* installed, running grub-install /dev/sda should create a bootloader for devuan and take over booting. |
| 19:57.24 | fsmithred | running that from the installed system |
| 19:57.36 | fsmithred | once you figure out how to get there. |
| 19:58.02 | edbarx | I need to boot in EFI mode as I am using GPT. |
| 19:58.31 | fsmithred | you motherboard won't let you use gpt with bios? |
| 19:59.14 | fsmithred | you/your |
| 19:59.37 | edbarx | It seems so. I am getting an error telling me: "cannot find EFI directory" |
| 19:59.43 | fsmithred | only one os installed on this machine? |
| 20:00.04 | edbarx | Yes one OS but I don't want to limit myself. |
| 20:00.09 | fsmithred | efi partition needs to be mounted on /boot/efi/ |
| 20:00.16 | fsmithred | check if it is |
| 20:00.36 | fsmithred | I've installed devuan on uefi, and it worked fine |
| 20:00.45 | fsmithred | but that was on a toshiba, not hp |
| 20:00.45 | edbarx | So I need to create an efi directory in /boot |
| 20:01.05 | fsmithred | yeah, I guess. This should all have happened automaticall |
| 20:01.42 | fsmithred | efi partition: about 200MB, fat32, boot flag and esp flag |
| 20:01.52 | edbarx | yes |
| 20:02.02 | fsmithred | if you're using gparted to make it, just choosing esp will give you both flags |
| 20:02.19 | fsmithred | mount it at /boot/efi/ |
| 20:02.25 | fsmithred | run grub-install |
| 20:02.33 | edbarx | It is already created. I am only failing in grub-install |
| 20:02.44 | fsmithred | and the bootloader should be in /boot/efi/EFI/devuan, I think |
| 20:03.29 | fsmithred | and there's usually an entry in fstab for the efi, but it's really only needed when you're installing the bootloader (or changing the boot order) |
| 20:03.42 | fsmithred | or any time you want to run efibootmgr |
| 20:04.33 | edbarx | So in the efi partition I need to create /efi/EFI |
| 20:04.44 | fsmithred | I don't think you need to do that manually |
| 20:04.55 | fsmithred | I think grub will do that |
| 20:05.20 | fsmithred | and in docs and howtos, I've seen it a couple different ways |
| 20:05.36 | edbarx | I have been fighting grub-efi for most of the day. If I create the directories manually saves me trouble I will do it |
| 20:06.05 | fsmithred | and some of the stuff you read might not work, depending on what the mobo manufacturer thought about following standards. |
| 20:06.30 | fsmithred | well, create /boot/efi and mount the efi partition there, then run grub-install and see what happens. |
| 20:06.47 | fsmithred | I would expect that to work. |
| 20:07.13 | edbarx | Thanks for the help. I will do just that. |
| 20:08.44 | fsmithred | ok, come back if problems. I'll be hanging out for awhile. |
| 20:09.55 | edbarx | Installation successful but I have to test it as that counts. |
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| 20:19.50 | edbarx | fsmithred: some progress but still not ready. EFI does not recognise /EFI/debian but pressing esc on switch on and selecting debian in the displayed list of boot options succeeds to boot grub. |
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| 20:24.16 | fsmithred | edbarx, you're seeing something other than an ordinary grub menu? Is it black background, or does it look like a bios boot device menu? |
| 20:24.42 | edbarx | It is certainly grub. |
| 20:25.34 | fsmithred | what's not being recognized? |
| 20:26.18 | edbarx | First I get a UEFI boot option list. Selecting debian, grub boots. But I have to press esc as soon as I turn on the computer |
| 20:26.41 | fsmithred | and if no esc, does it just sit there? |
| 20:27.10 | edbarx | Without esc. As screen with a button to turn computer off. |
| 20:27.43 | fsmithred | have you looked at this website? http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/ |
| 20:28.37 | edbarx | But it is booting. What I need is to use a name the firmware expects. |
| 20:29.00 | fsmithred | you can manually register a bootloader |
| 20:29.09 | fsmithred | with efibootmgr |
| 20:29.15 | minnesotags | So refracta is on sourceforge? Is that "ok" nowadays? |
| 20:29.15 | fsmithred | gimme a sec and I'll get the command |
| 20:29.39 | fsmithred | minnesotags, yes, the i386 iso is ready, as in officially released |
| 20:29.45 | fsmithred | no beta or rc in the name |
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| 20:30.05 | minnesotags | I mean, have they cleaned up their malware issue? |
| 20:30.44 | fsmithred | oh, sf? I haven't heard lately. Last was about a month ago (or more) and they were scanning stuff and cleaning it up. |
| 20:30.52 | fsmithred | I know my stuff was scanned awhile ago. |
| 20:31.03 | fsmithred | but I don't know the current status. |
| 20:31.20 | fsmithred | there's a md5 file and .asc sig file, so you can check it. |
| 20:32.09 | fsmithred | if you install it, and you change the username, and you tell the installer not to disable autologin, it won't work. |
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| 20:56.22 | edbarx | fsmithred: factum est! I used /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/ and voila' it worked! |
| 20:57.03 | edbarx | bootmgfw.efi |
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| 20:57.24 | aitor | oh, oh... |
| 20:57.31 | aitor | iget: |
| 20:57.38 | aitor | i get: |
| 20:57.51 | aitor | initramfs-tools depends on udev; however: |
| 20:58.08 | aitor | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.24 | aitor | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.33 | fsmithred | edbarx, I've heard of some motherboards that require that name. |
| 21:00.45 | aitor | also problems with live-boot-initramfs-tools, but i do not consider it problematic |
| 21:01.08 | aitor | hi edbarx !! |
| 21:01.16 | fsmithred | apt-get -f install maybe? |
| 21:01.37 | aitor | doesn't work |
| 21:02.06 | fsmithred | I got a message like that recently, and I don't remember what I did to fix it. |
| 21:02.12 | fsmithred | maybe reinstall something |
| 21:02.14 | edbarx | fsmithred: do you know what driver I should install for: "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)" |
| 21:02.15 | aitor | i'm working in a minimal chroot jail |
| 21:02.32 | Centurion_Dan1 | o/ |
| 21:02.38 | edbarx | It is an i5 processor. |
| 21:03.00 | fsmithred | usually intel graphics work out of the box. |
| 21:03.42 | edbarx | But I am not satisfied with tearing even if it is minimal. |
| 21:03.45 | fsmithred | 2nd generation is kinda old now, isn't it? |
| 21:05.10 | aitor | Centurion_Dan, i see an scorpionfish an i run out ! |
| 21:06.17 | aitor | i launch the surfboard and run out |
| 21:06.59 | aitor | https://www.google.es/search?q=cabracho&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6-t_X4Y_PAhUFWRQKHfCoDYcQsAQILQ&biw=1280&bih=656 |
| 21:07.48 | fsmithred | aitor, don't those things have to stay in the water? |
| 21:07.54 | aitor | good for soaps and puddings |
| 21:08.31 | aitor | lol |
| 21:09.22 | aitor | soup |
| 21:09.27 | aitor | soups |
| 21:09.28 | fsmithred | oh |
| 21:10.43 | aitor | i can't remove libudev1: |
| 21:10.46 | aitor | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 21:11.01 | aitor | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.18 | aitor | but this is my first attempt |
| 21:11.40 | aitor | it will not be difficult, i think |
| 21:12.42 | aitor | maybe, we have to rebuild some package depending on it |
| 21:15.27 | aitor | fsmithred: we must thank to Frederic Bezies |
| 21:15.45 | fsmithred | who is that? |
| 21:15.58 | aitor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym_RE67MLJg |
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| 21:16.23 | aitor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hPkxTykFvI |
| 21:16.47 | aitor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYQg7Xnn168 |
| 21:16.54 | fsmithred | wow |
| 21:17.27 | aitor | yes :) |
| 21:17.46 | aitor | there is a bug in gnuinos alpha, i know |
| 21:18.01 | aitor | there repositories are missing |
| 21:18.40 | aitor | didn't you see the videos? |
| 21:18.57 | aitor | i found them today |
| 21:19.04 | fsmithred | I'm watching now |
| 21:19.34 | fsmithred | how the hell did he change the language in refracta so easily? |
| 21:19.35 | aitor | the repositories :) |
| 21:20.32 | aitor | i have an idea for changing the language and the configuration of the keyboard |
| 21:20.42 | aitor | a gtk application |
| 21:20.42 | fsmithred | yeah? |
| 21:21.03 | fsmithred | I was working on getting the lightdm greeter to cooperate today |
| 21:21.16 | fsmithred | I choose French, and English comes up. |
| 21:21.32 | fsmithred | I have to drop to console, log in as root, restart lightdm |
| 21:21.41 | fsmithred | and then I can log into desktop in French. |
| 21:21.54 | aitor | edbarx ia asleep,appearently :) |
| 21:22.12 | fsmithred | to switch back, I have to do it twice again, killing lightdm in the middle. |
| 21:22.20 | edbarx | Unfortunately, still awake! |
| 21:22.32 | aitor | oh !! |
| 21:22.35 | fsmithred | if I kill lightdm with alt-prtscrn-k, it doesn't work. |
| 21:23.19 | aitor | yes, unfortunately !! |
| 21:24.41 | fsmithred | I don't understand anything he's saying. Does he like it? |
| 21:24.56 | aitor | there are some applications for the keyboard, but i found some bugs |
| 21:26.01 | edbarx | why aren't you using /etc/init.d/lightdm stop? |
| 21:26.04 | aitor | edbarx, aren't you sleepy |
| 21:26.31 | edbarx | I works for me. |
| 21:27.32 | fsmithred | the lightdm language selector? |
| 21:27.39 | aitor | yes, it works, but i'll use slim in gnuinos |
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| 21:28.19 | aitor | oh, robert-e ! |
| 21:28.40 | robert-e | Hello all |
| 21:28.47 | aitor | what panic ! |
| 21:28.48 | fsmithred | hi |
| 21:29.03 | aitor | robert-e and his scripts |
| 21:29.08 | aitor | :) |
| 21:30.26 | robert-e | aiter: Yes, and they work on one os but not the other...and I am not going to waste anymore time on an os that will hit the bin soon (as devuan / vdev) works. |
| 21:31.27 | fsmithred | aitor, can you understand what Frederic is saying? |
| 21:31.42 | robert-e | fsmithred: Next on the agenda here is to learn how to use refracta, so far I have been using clonezilla, but that is kind of limiting. |
| 21:32.05 | fsmithred | clonezilla is an excellent backup tool |
| 21:32.27 | robert-e | fsmithred: agreed |
| 21:32.33 | fsmithred | refractasnapshot can be used for backup, but it's limited - don't try to back up large amounts of data |
| 21:32.47 | fsmithred | there are limits on size of iso |
| 21:32.49 | aitor | a bit, but intuitively |
| 21:33.17 | fsmithred | get the install set up the way you want, then make a snapshot, so you can reinstall with all your customizations |
| 21:33.26 | fsmithred | don't include your movie collection. |
| 21:33.45 | robert-e | Anyway, I will back out of here...oh yes, last thing last night after another fail with vdev/udev (rrq's) I restored the drive from a back up image,..will wait until someone needs again. bbl |
| 21:33.45 | fsmithred | and check the rsync excludes file, you'll probably want to make some changes |
| 21:34.06 | fsmithred | aitor, what was his issue with the xdg-user-dirs? |
| 21:35.02 | aitor | i didn't install this package, which provides the following folders: |
| 21:35.28 | aitor | images, documents, ... |
| 21:35.31 | fsmithred | yup |
| 21:35.53 | fsmithred | I edited /etc/xdg/user-dirs.default to eliminate all that shit. |
| 21:36.20 | aitor | i think that they are translated automatically |
| 21:36.36 | fsmithred | oh, maybe. |
| 21:36.49 | fsmithred | I just don't like having a lot of pre-made directories in my home |
| 21:36.55 | fsmithred | I'll make my own, thanks. |
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| 21:37.19 | aitor | me too |
| 21:37.52 | fsmithred | I have to go. will be back later. |
| 21:39.16 | aitor | fsmithred. i'm going to bed |
| 21:39.30 | aitor | tomorrow i'll tell you the improvements in vdev |
| 21:40.51 | aitor | it'll not be complicated |
| 21:41.28 | aitor | ups..., fsmithred is gone |
| 21:41.59 | aitor | well, see you tomorrow :) |
| 21:42.01 | aitor | bye |
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