| 00:19.06 | Xenguy | A little update (let me know if this is not the appropriate channel): I re-installed Devuan Beta from an ISO image via USB... |
| 00:19.58 | Xenguy | I chose MATE DE instead of LXDE, cos I previously ran GNOME2 on systems where I had enough resources... |
| 00:20.48 | Xenguy | Long story short, it works great so far, I'm really pleased with the setup, and it's that same great Debian feeling, without having to suck up systemd |
| 00:21.01 | Xenguy | Thanks to all the folks who are contributing to this |
| 00:22.14 | Xenguy | This time I chose LVM and encrypted volume, which I haven't tried before. I'm assuming this is strong encryption of my partitions |
| 00:25.22 | fsmithred | pretty sure aes256 is the default |
| 00:27.57 | Xenguy | That should do the trick :) |
| 00:29.08 | Xenguy | BTW my compliments to wicd, I've never really encountered it much before, and it seems really well done |
| 00:29.18 | fsmithred | as long as the time to crack is exceeds the statue of limitation, you should be fine |
| 00:29.28 | fsmithred | is/it |
| 00:29.32 | Xenguy | haha |
| 00:30.11 | fsmithred | and yeah, devuan acts just like I'd expect debian to act |
| 00:30.42 | fsmithred | more so than current debian |
| 00:31.04 | Xenguy | Oh really, interesting |
| 00:31.17 | Xenguy | I got as far as Wheezy |
| 00:32.13 | fsmithred | I started checking out jessie when it was still in testing |
| 00:32.23 | fsmithred | and all kinds of stuff changed |
| 00:32.36 | Xenguy | Examples? |
| 00:32.49 | fsmithred | for awhile there, right after systemd became the default, simple commands like halt and reboot didn't work |
| 00:33.01 | Xenguy | Sorry, that's illegal :P |
| 00:33.06 | fsmithred | no shit |
| 00:33.20 | fsmithred | they fixed it, probably under fear of death |
| 00:33.39 | Xenguy | There is a limit, as most of us have decide :) |
| 00:33.51 | Xenguy | *decided |
| 00:35.20 | fsmithred | couldn't make a live iso without systemd |
| 00:35.22 | Xenguy | I really didn't expect Debian to get hypnotized/strong-armed into systemd, it did actually surprise me |
| 00:35.26 | fsmithred | well, I could make it, but it wouldn't boot |
| 00:36.22 | Xenguy | Obviously they drank the koolaid |
| 00:49.56 | ksx4system | Xenguy: no one expected that fucking shit |
| 00:51.46 | djph | On the upside, enough thinking heads who can actually /build/ a *nix system were in the mix, and now we're here. |
| 00:52.18 | djph | ... still can't build my gorram toolchain for LFS :( |
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| 01:02.06 | Xenguy | Great to here there's enough expertise here, cos a fork like this is a major undertaking if you ask me |
| 01:02.10 | Xenguy | *hear |
| 01:02.58 | Xenguy | Hah, as I'm sure you all well know :) |
| 01:04.02 | golinux | Calling stevelitt |
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| 03:28.00 | NewGnuGuy | What is the correct pronunciation of Devuan? Is it "deh-voo-uhn" or "dev-wuhn" or something else? |
| 03:28.37 | furrywolf | dev-one I think is allowed. |
| 03:31.21 | MinceR | hm, the FAQ index doesn't seem to contain nor link to answers at https://devuan.org/os/documentation/faq/ |
| 03:31.44 | MinceR | there used to be an answer to this question on the site somewhere |
| 04:09.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | google site:.. ? |
| 04:11.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.howtopronounce.com/devuan/ |
| 04:13.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | please vote at http://www.pronouncekiwi.com/Devuan ;-) |
| 04:18.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://git.devuan.org/docs-shipped/iso-docs/blob/758a14a7ac88700cc3bdc0c20559f19bf6126579/doc/FAQ/html/index.en.html <li><a href="ch-basic_defs.en.html#s-pronunciation">1.7 How does one pronounce Debian and what does this word mean?</a> |
| 04:19.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed the page https://devuan.org/os/documentation/faq/ looks like it got stripped of any <a href=...> |
| 04:20.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | or are those links generated by JS? |
| 04:20.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | (which I block) |
| 04:21.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm no |
| 04:22.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha OK https://talk.devuan.org/t/frequently-answered-questions/231 :-S |
| 04:23.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | who says a list of "Frequently Asked Questions" is supposed to provide *answers*? ;-P |
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| 04:32.01 | stevelitt | Hi golinux |
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| 07:26.30 | free_speech | tzag. it's quite a *VERY* long time ago when I was here the last time, so - is the devuan distribution ready for prod use now or is it still in beta state? |
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| 07:55.27 | Gup | free_speech, it is still officially beta, but it's really stable, i'm using on all my home stuff without any problems |
| 07:56.06 | Gup | still haven't taken the plunge yet and installed on my prod webservers, think i will wait for stable release as I am in no hurry |
| 08:00.41 | free_speech | I don't have any servers (yet) connected to the web, so all machines I use are physically available for me since they are housed here in my home rooms :-) |
| 08:02.51 | Gup | well, i wouldn't say there was much stopping you giving it a try :) |
| 08:03.19 | Gup | unless you depend on gnome! |
| 08:04.14 | free_speech | gnome's the darkest darkness ever invented .... ^^ |
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| 08:04.55 | Gup | haha you should be just fine then |
| 08:05.01 | free_speech | (ESPECIALLY the most recent versions 3.x ) |
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| 08:06.41 | Gup | I quite liked 2.x. MATE looks ok and runs on devuan i believe, but i've not really used it. xfce is good and default, but I'm super lightweight now with i3wm. |
| 08:07.25 | free_speech | where is the like button on IRC? :D |
| 08:08.56 | Gup | vote with your actions ;) install to 'like' |
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| 14:04.19 | TXX | Does Devuan have a official/unofficial way of supporting offloading of their package repo? |
| 14:04.58 | OmegaPhil | Are you referring to a repository proxy service? |
| 14:05.07 | OmegaPhil | proxy/cache |
| 14:05.13 | TXX | OmegaPhil: yeah possibly |
| 14:05.21 | TXX | it's in that alley |
| 14:05.58 | OmegaPhil | I use apt-cacher-ng, same config as with Debian, seems to work fine |
| 14:06.07 | TXX | I am experiencing awesome speeds atm, but don't wanna burden more than necessary. |
| 14:06.19 | TXX | OmegaPhil: that's good advice, cheers |
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