IRC log for #devuan on 20161116

00:05.47gci_adminTue Nov 15 15:05:35 AKST 2016
00:10.37parazydGup: CET here. 1:10 AM now :D
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05:11.51P-GHello all, I've got a timely question.
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05:12.59P-GI'm still trying to wrap my head around wireless network management in linux but I need to get another laptop working today...
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05:14.02P-GCould someone walk me through configuring a new wireless network with /etc/network/interfaces?
05:14.27P-GThe network is WPA-2.
05:15.12P-GI assume the driver is working since the controller is listed by "ip link" but not 100% sure.
05:19.52debdogP-G: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line but TBH, I ended up with wicd for laptops. much easier to switch between networks
05:21.20debdogesp. if you're in a hurry :)
05:22.51P-GYeah, but I do have a little bit of time and I've had plenty of trouble learning Wicd and NetworkManager before. :S
05:23.09P-GI will try this first and maybe ask again if I can't figure it out.
05:24.05P-GThe problems I've had with Wicd are probably a result of generally not knowing how all of these services work together so I figure it's better to start with the most fundamental method possible, if it is possible.
05:24.26P-GI know I'll need WPA_Supplicant anyway for WPA so I'm looking at https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK now.
05:24.31P-GThanks. :)
05:33.37debdogthere are some pitfalls with wicd. prerequisities are listed in the same wiki page. just so you have a fallback :)
05:34.59P-GOk, right now I'm trying to figure out why the SSID isn't appearing in my scan.
05:35.08P-GI'm pretty sure it used to...
05:35.19debdogad, to make it short, network-manager suggs big time :D
05:35.48P-GYeah, I've had that opinion too but it's actually the only one I've been able to use. :S
05:35.58P-GSometimes I hate my life.
05:35.58debdoghehe
05:36.36P-GAll visible SSID should appear with "iwlist wlan0 scan > scan.log", right?
05:37.13P-GI "cat scan.log | grep -i" for one word in the SSID but no return.
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05:37.53debdogdoes it contain any other SSIDs?
05:38.25debdogwhich package holds iwscan?
05:38.50P-GYeah, about 30-40 entries. Maybe 1/4 are blank SSID value though. :S
05:38.56debdogk
05:39.20debdogwait, don't have WiFi on this PC
05:39.25P-G:p
05:39.29P-GLucky dog.
05:39.37debdogsorry, cannot check atm. and my laptop is runing win7 atm :(
05:39.42debdoghehe
05:40.06P-GYeah, the laptop I'm using to talk here is Windows. >.<
05:40.17P-GPretty sad state of affairs.
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05:40.45P-GI'm going to try to proceed with the assumption that my SSID just couldnt' display but everything else is working fine.
05:40.50P-GLet's try this...
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05:58.39P-GDebdog: I used the config described in that article but running "ifup wlan0" did not seem to work.
05:59.10P-GIt did run DHCP.
05:59.57P-GTwo requests and seven discovers before printing "no DHCPOFFERS received."
06:00.34P-GIt then printed "Trying recorded lease 192.168.1.7" but the ping to 192.168.1.1 failed.
06:01.36debdogquestion is, why doesn't the SSID show up at all
06:01.42debdogpackage wpasupplicant is installed?
06:01.49P-G"ip link" shows wlan0 as DOWN and DORMANT, but i3bar says "DHCP: yes".
06:03.19P-GHow do I confirm this again?
06:03.40debdogaptitude search wpasupplicant
06:03.50debdogif the line starts with an "i", it's installed
06:05.01P-G"dpkg -l wpa*" shows wpagui and wpasupplicant.
06:05.32P-GYes, aptitude agrees.
06:07.27P-G/etc/wpa_supplicant contains three shell scripts, one example.conf, and one wpa-psk-tkip.conf.
06:09.43P-GI deleted the wpa*.conf and added a .txt file extension to the example. Ran "ifdown wlan0" to clear DHCP process.
06:10.19P-GNow running "ifup wlan0" again.
06:12.24P-GDHCP client ran again, this time without any requests and with "no working leases in persistent database..."
06:12.58P-GFive discover attempts.
06:13.16P-GI'm guessing this is normal behaviour.
06:15.40P-GRunning "ifdown wlan0" prints "DHCPRELEASE on wlan0 to 192.168.1.1 port 67". Did it just assume this was the gateway or is the connection properly established by Wpa_Supplicant?
06:16.01P-GI need to go afk for a while but I'll be back. Anyone with ideas, please comment.
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07:42.40user_Wow, Refracta, so brilliant ! great job !
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08:31.48P-GOk, I'm back to tackle the wireless configuration problem.
08:32.32P-GAll help welcome.
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10:34.41YoubiHello :) Is it possible to suggest a package for devuan repos?
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10:38.55dethaOne can suggest. Even better, one can build the package and become its maintainer.
10:40.52Youbidetha: I could do this :) Do you know where I can find instructions (rules for packaging, someone to contact, etc)?
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10:49.36Youbihttps://talk.devuan.org/t/devuan-maintainer-workflow/146 found this, it may help me
10:53.06dethaYoubi: start with an account there, have a look at the various items, check here with nextime/jaromil/centurion_dan and whoever else I have forgotten
10:56.45Youbidetha: ok, thanks!!!
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12:15.51hellekinYoubi: if you setup an account on git.do, you can push you package repository to your account, then open an issue in the devuan-for-review group for inclusion, then someone can fork it and test it and see how it works.  After that, it can enter devuan-packages (or not).
12:17.03Youbihellekin: thanks for the instructions, I will do that.
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15:43.44aitoredbarx: are you there?
15:45.04aitorthere is a minor bug in the backend of simple-netaid
15:46.58aitorbut the solution is very simple
15:47.37aitorif you use:
15:48.05aitor/usr/lib/simple-netaid/bin$ ./backend 1 ESSID PASSWD
15:48.42aitorwith a wrong essid or a wrong password, the you need to reboot the system for the second attempt
15:49.20aitorotherwise, you will get the following:
15:49.43aitorifup: interface wlan0 already configured
15:51.48aitorthe solution for that is to remove the .lock file from /run/network, and the line wlan0=wlan0 from /run/network/ifstate
15:52.10aitorand run (as root):
15:52.25aitorip link set wlan0 up
15:52.58aitorit can be run in the backend, since it uses SUID
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15:59.21aitori'll attach a patch in the mailing list
16:02.07aitorbye :)
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18:02.04AntoFoxhi
18:02.11AntoFoxsome news?
18:03.10premobossabout what?
18:04.28AntoFoxdevuan :P
18:04.31AntoFoxpackages
18:04.57AntoFoxor if someone have a problem with mate 1.14
18:05.57AntoFoxetc etc
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18:18.18telst4rAntoFox: a testing port for raspberry pi is out in the wild.
18:26.44parazydAntoFox: is it possible to get MATE without pulling slim?
18:27.02parazydor would i have to install mate, and then purge slim?
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18:31.04AntoFoxfor the moment I think it is better to install mate and  later purge slim
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21:17.57wulllsthey there, i just browsed through devuans documentation project a little today and discovered an Openbox quick start guide in the dev1fanboy wiki.
21:20.49wulllstseeing that, i just thought, i'd like to invite people involved with devuan docs and especially people using openbox to have a look at the Openbox article in the Debian wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox) and possibly just copy it (if that's allowed) into the deviuan docs. i have been the main person working on that article for some time and will be switching to Devuan soon anyway.
21:24.42wulllstif i should find the time, I may even consider to to some further work on all this (but not in the debian wiki then).
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