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| 00:24.15 | Drugo | there are still gnome, cinnamon and kde listed in tasksel in beta 2 |
| 00:25.40 | jaromil | yes, tasksel needs more attention |
| 00:25.56 | jaromil | the desktop side of things is the least developed in this release and one of the main blockers for an rc |
| 00:26.12 | Drugo | ok |
| 00:26.20 | jaromil | we recommend looking at the upcoming refracta to make an idea of how devuan looks like on desktop |
| 00:27.13 | jaromil | we need to integrate all the work done by golinux on the desktop design, implying updates to desktop-base and gtk theme "purpy" and a few other packages |
| 00:27.34 | jaromil | volunteers are welcome on this front also |
| 00:28.03 | jaromil | I'll start writing a short guide on how to build packages on talk.devuan.org ASAP |
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| 01:43.58 | fsmithred | where does grub get the distro name for the boot menu if it's not getting it from lsb-release or /etc/default/grub? |
| 01:57.43 | ksx4system | omg good news <3 beta2 in the wild |
| 01:57.53 | ksx4system | just received mail |
| 02:05.07 | Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: a utility called os prober. It reads /etc/debian_version |
| 02:05.43 | Centurion_Dan | there is also a udeb version all built from /etc/os-prober. I thought this was a non-issue. |
| 02:07.15 | fsmithred | Centurion_Dan, /etc/debian_version doesn't exist, /etc/devuan_version says "jessie" |
| 02:07.37 | fsmithred | the boot menu on beta2 says Devuan, but on beta1 it was GNU/Linux |
| 02:07.52 | fsmithred | where'd the Devuan come from? |
| 02:08.45 | fsmithred | maybe I should install beta2 from DVD instead of CD-1. I might be missing something. |
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| 02:18.33 | Centurion_Dan | I have started a fork of os-prober package to handle this. |
| 02:20.10 | furrywolf | I got a user bug report/complaint today, but I'm not sure what he's talking about... something about greyed out checkboxes incorrectly reflecting the state of something |
| 02:20.30 | furrywolf | I asked for him to actually explain what he was referring to, and he left. something about the installer. |
| 02:20.30 | furrywolf | lol |
| 02:20.56 | Centurion_Dan | It's minimal changes so will push an updated version shortly. |
| 02:21.05 | Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: ^^ |
| 02:22.26 | Centurion_Dan | this will fix the detection to assume look in /etc/devuan_version and also correctly use "Devuan GNU/Linux" |
| 02:23.25 | fsmithred | cool, thanks |
| 02:23.49 | fsmithred | is that what adds the --class items to the menuentry line? |
| 02:24.01 | fsmithred | beta2 says --class devuan (as it should) |
| 02:24.11 | fsmithred | beta1 just has --class gnu-linux |
| 02:24.32 | fsmithred | and that determines which icon gets used in the boot menu |
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| 02:52.13 | Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: It may be related. |
| 02:58.39 | fsmithred | I need to figure out how to get the '--class devuan' into grub.cfg. If I edit it manually, it reverts when I run update-grub. |
| 02:59.24 | fsmithred | if I can't do that, then I have to install beta2 and add all the theme stuff and refractasnapshot, etc. |
| 03:01.51 | Centurion_Dan | It could be using /etc/os-release "id" |
| 03:03.52 | fsmithred | I'll check that |
| 03:03.54 | fsmithred | thanks |
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| 03:23.09 | justinclift | So... reading MIRRORS.txt on files.devuan.org |
| 03:23.19 | justinclift | It says: In your crontab running once every four hours or so, e.g., four times a day: |
| 03:23.25 | justinclift | ... |
| 03:23.27 | justinclift | er... |
| 03:23.47 | justinclift | I live on Earth. We have 24 hours a day. So, four times a day would be every six hours. |
| 03:24.11 | justinclift | Where is the person located who wrote that sentence? :D |
| 03:24.41 | fsmithred | union rules: 2hr breaks |
| 03:24.47 | justinclift | Ahhhh |
| 03:25.14 | justinclift | Whoever wrote the example crontab line got it right though. */6 |
| 03:25.28 | justinclift | fsmithred: Sounds like a good union :D |
| 03:25.29 | fsmithred | they might have been doing a lot of stuff in base4 before they wrote that |
| 03:26.14 | justinclift | Anyway, just pointing it out in case someone wants to fix it. |
| 03:26.25 | justinclift | Obviously not a high priority. ;D |
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| 03:38.03 | user1 | Hello - I just heard Beta2 is out. - I just finished getting my server to Beta. Do I have to install from scratch to get Beta-2 |
| 03:40.38 | golinux | I just checked and I only have 15 upgrades waiting for jessie. |
| 03:42.05 | golinux | You should just be able to upgrade. Unless of course you want to see for yourself that the installer now works offline. I was told it does! |
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| 04:06.50 | user1 | Thanks.. I also push this distro to my clients so.. I know its not prod yet but they follow me as I depart from Deb. Thank you for the info. |
| 04:09.15 | Xenguy | So just something like this golinux : apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 04:09.17 | Xenguy | ? |
| 04:09.31 | fsmithred | yeah, or dist-upgrade |
| 04:09.59 | Xenguy | Do I need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list at all? |
| 04:10.11 | fsmithred | you shouldn't need to |
| 04:10.21 | fsmithred | I can tell you for sure in a few minutes |
| 04:10.32 | Xenguy | Thanks fsmithred |
| 04:11.08 | fsmithred | well, not sure how many minutes - just got through tasksel |
| 04:11.40 | Xenguy | no worries, I'll idle here for awhile then |
| 04:45.19 | user1_ | Well I am going to log out... But its real nice to see Debian quality continued in DEVUAN. It has proven itself as the new LEADING Linux Distro of the future. Bye guys.. |
| 04:49.56 | fsmithred | Xenguy, source.list has the mirror I picked plus the cdrom (DVD) plus jessie-security and jessie-updates |
| 04:50.25 | fsmithred | on a previous install that didn't use a mirror, I only got the cdrom. |
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