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00:34.40 | Vall | Hello everyone |
00:34.54 | Vall | Just saw this: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/best-distro-2016-vote.html |
00:35.06 | Vall | (sorry if anyone else posted it here already) |
00:35.32 | Vall | Let's all go there and vote for Devuan! |
00:36.01 | Vall | (it doesn't have a dedicated checkbox, so click on "Other" and then fill "Devuan" in the side box) |
00:36.03 | hellekin | Huh? E: The value 'jessie' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
00:36.34 | Vall | I did, and then posted a comment complaining Devuan wasn't listed and probably a lot of the "Other" votes was for it :-P |
00:36.56 | fsmithred | hellekin, I get that message a lot. Not sure what causes it. |
00:37.49 | hellekin | fsmithred: hey! Mentioning Refracta in the "little purpy book" |
00:38.04 | fsmithred | what's that? |
00:38.33 | hellekin | an upcoming booklet on devuan |
00:38.38 | hellekin | part of the docsprint |
00:38.39 | Vall | (and "Other" is by far in the front, 25% right now, vs 22% for Linux Mint and only 14% for Ubuntu) |
00:38.57 | fsmithred | cool, thanks! |
00:39.01 | hellekin | Vall: yes but can't see the details of 'other', so might be anything |
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00:39.31 | Vall | hellekin: that's why it's important to post a comment complaining of the lack of "Devuan" ;-) |
00:39.45 | hellekin | fsmithred: what else can I do, the 'refracta principle' is such a great pattern |
00:39.46 | aitor | Vall, the best distro of 2016 is Devuan |
00:39.57 | Vall | aitor: I completely agree! ;-) |
00:40.04 | aitor | yes >( |
00:40.06 | Vall | So go there and vote ;-) |
00:40.12 | hellekin | aitor: checkout the doc-wg for updates :) |
00:40.18 | fsmithred | invented by Dean Linkous |
00:40.34 | Vall | fsmithred: alas, sticking with MIYO for now |
00:40.45 | Vall | the netbook is running very well with it |
00:40.49 | fsmithred | I installed miyo today, and I like it |
00:40.55 | Vall | yeah |
00:40.59 | fsmithred | he did a nice job with the desktop |
00:41.11 | Vall | less than 130MB memory use booted into the GUI is a feat nowadays |
00:41.23 | golinux | Poor Miyo. I hope it can continue . . . |
00:41.26 | aitor | dos-wg? |
00:41.29 | fsmithred | you want really low use, look at icewm |
00:41.32 | Vall | Refracta is very lean, but IIRC it stood at 300MB |
00:41.45 | Vall | icewm: less than openbox? |
00:41.57 | fsmithred | yeah |
00:42.08 | Vall | Will have to check on that someday soon |
00:42.21 | fsmithred | but you'll proabably hate the menu |
00:42.22 | Vall | right now I have to finish getting wife set up on that netbook |
00:42.26 | Vall | LOL |
00:42.35 | Vall | OpenBox menu was nice |
00:42.47 | fsmithred | miyo modified it a lot |
00:42.47 | Vall | and dynamic, if I understood it correctly |
00:42.56 | hellekin | Vall: wife 1.0 or wife 2.0? :P |
00:43.01 | fsmithred | I haven't looked under the hood |
00:43.06 | Vall | Wife 1.0 ;-) |
00:43.24 | hellekin | aitor: /topic in #devuan-doc |
00:43.54 | aitor | a new IRC? |
00:43.57 | Vall | Wife 2.0 is just a pricey upgrade that looks nice at first but RSN the poor user perceives it's just an overpriced and overhyped Wife 1.0, with the same bugs and shortcomings ;-) |
00:44.42 | hellekin | aitor: I thought you were there before |
00:44.56 | hellekin | aitor: it just started for the docsprint |
00:45.08 | Vall | (I have a friend who just came to that realization with Wife 3.0 -- and I told him that when he was making the upgrade to Wife 2.0) |
00:45.17 | aitor | ok |
00:45.27 | aitor | the book... |
00:47.24 | fsmithred | hellekin, do you have a defaultrelease file somewhere in /etc/apt? |
00:47.43 | hellekin | Vall: I was mentioning this silly sexist joke as a gentle way to drive you away from such discourse, but, ahem... OK, it was 'nice' by then. When we were young and idiotic wrt women, right? |
00:48.12 | hellekin | fsmithred: nope |
00:48.29 | aitor | 12 December is approaching |
00:48.36 | aitor | good look >( |
00:48.42 | Vall | aitor: Dec 12 is the day after tomorrow ;-) |
00:48.54 | fsmithred | what's the significance of that date? |
00:48.57 | hellekin | fsmithred: but I have /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02follow-stable with APT::Default-Release "jessie"; ;) |
00:49.03 | aitor | arr.. i'm with US keyboard |
00:49.07 | fsmithred | ah... |
00:49.11 | Vall | hellekin: well, it doesn't seem as you did a good job of driving me away from it, on the contrary ;-) |
00:49.28 | hellekin | Vall: ssshhh.... |
00:49.31 | Vall | LOL |
00:49.45 | fsmithred | I had that in a file, and the error messages stopped when I got rid of that file. |
00:50.22 | Vall | hellekin: but you are right, a little more and I will start sounding just like the US President Elect, so I better stop now ;-) |
00:50.26 | hellekin | fsmithred: Dec. 12 is the end of the docsprint (although I guess the work started well, and should be pursued beyond that date. But for the booklet target, it cannot go much beyond, because we have to print it) |
00:50.45 | fsmithred | cool |
00:51.07 | hellekin | fsmithred: interesting. I keep it to avoid unwanted 'upgrades' from other suites |
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00:51.31 | hellekin | maybe there's an issue with amprolla and we need to use 'stable' instead of jessie? |
00:51.39 | fsmithred | yeah, that was the reason I had that same APT line. |
00:51.44 | aitor | good bye, 01:50 here :) |
00:51.53 | hellekin | good night aitor! |
00:51.58 | fsmithred | useful when you have more than one release repo in your sources. |
00:52.00 | aitor | :) |
00:52.18 | Vall | gotta go too. Have a great evening/morning/afternoon/whatever, everyone! |
00:52.22 | Vall | waves |
00:52.28 | fsmithred | but I use pinning instead now. ascii and ceres and backports repos are all enabled, but I don't install from them. |
00:52.40 | hellekin | Vall: hi to your 'setting up' wife ;) |
00:52.42 | fsmithred | I just like to easily check versions. |
00:52.56 | fsmithred | take it easy Vall |
00:54.03 | hellekin | fsmithred: all pinned here as well... 950 - 500 - 90 |
00:54.39 | hellekin | + awesome unstable at 900 |
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01:03.33 | fsmithred | you like living on the edge? I've got ascii at 100 and ceres at 50 |
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01:10.47 | hellekin | I need some more recent programs, especially awesome is lingering behind big time. I'm eager to reach ASCII and personal overlays :) |
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03:01.54 | Newbumz | Thank you to any Devuan Dev's on. Happy to report Grandma loves her new Devuan powered HTPC. |
03:03.02 | Newbumz | Click here for Netflix, Click here for saved movies, click here to print recipies... Works as well as her chrome book. |
03:05.40 | golinux | Newbumz: That's some Grandma love! |
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06:27.41 | Inocuous | I'm getting a dns error on devuan.org for some reason. |
06:55.27 | AlexLikeRock | Inocuous, checking .... |
06:55.40 | AlexLikeRock | home page ? |
06:56.34 | Newbumz | devuan.org checks out in western canada. |
06:56.37 | AlexLikeRock | its working fine :-) |
06:56.53 | AlexLikeRock | im check at mexico |
06:57.38 | AlexLikeRock | check this diferent IP |
06:57.40 | AlexLikeRock | https://files.devuan.org/ |
06:58.24 | Newbumz | AlexLikeRock: Works for me |
07:00.45 | Newbumz | Inocuous: Any other locations not working for you? |
07:01.25 | Inocuous | everything works, I have 4 or 5 pages open. no problem. |
07:01.33 | Inocuous | idk |
07:03.21 | Newbumz | I have only newbie tech support offerings at this point then without details. |
07:04.10 | Newbumz | Sory |
07:07.31 | AlexLikeRock | good nigth , adios amigos |
07:07.44 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
07:07.49 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
07:07.55 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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11:06.14 | AntoFox | o/ |
11:07.37 | jaromil | hi AntoFox , how is it going? |
11:07.40 | chillfan | \o |
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11:41.24 | AntoFox | jaromil: tutto ok :) |
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14:47.13 | Inocuous | Is there someone here from devuan devs that can do a traceroute from the site to see if I'm blocked or something. |
14:47.43 | Inocuous | unable to reach devuan site from my home IP but ok with other. |
14:47.50 | chillfan | have you tried a different dns resolver? |
14:48.24 | Inocuous | I tried a different ip address on my phone. and others have tried without issue. I don't know how to do what you suggest |
14:49.00 | chillfan | well probably there is a problem with your dns server or configuration |
14:49.35 | Inocuous | yes |
14:50.12 | chillfan | are you on devuan? |
14:50.32 | Inocuous | no not at the moment. |
14:50.57 | chillfan | well let's move this to #debianfork so it's out the way of development talk.. and I'll see if i can help you change to another DNS server |
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15:20.10 | GiBa | thanks aitor and hellekin I do not see that that way and I do have a /etc/devuan_release. I have the servers up for 2 years or so now, they were debian and I changed the repos to devuan (old school installation), so something fkup in the process, I manually fixed my files to be like that and now everything seems to be working properly |
15:21.48 | GiBa | hellekin: I'm so close to ccc and my friends are all going but I can't make it I'll have family visiting for the holydays !flip |
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16:49.48 | hellekin | GiBa: oh nooooooz! |
16:50.22 | hellekin | GiBa: well, enjoy your family then. I guess we have more opportunities coming. |
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21:37.49 | Andrea993 | hi |
21:38.08 | Inocuous | hello |
21:39.34 | Andrea993 | when a stable versione of devuan? |
21:43.25 | blinkdog | Andrea993: I don't think there is a fixed release date |
21:48.12 | Andrea993 | thanks, but which are the steps that make this project difficult? |
21:54.24 | NeonLicht | Getting rid of the systemd infestation must not be trivial, I guess. |
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22:37.23 | aitor | hk: good luck :) |
22:44.18 | Andrea993 | #systemdmerda |
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23:40.50 | Sorch | is anyone using devuan on a production server yet? |
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23:48.16 | golinux | Sorch: Not me but yes. |
23:49.55 | hightower2 | Sorch, I use it on a work laptop with great success |
23:50.21 | Sorch | hightower2, nice because I'm going to moving to it for a few production servers |
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23:51.55 | hightower2 | Sorch, From looking at the mailing list, the currently known problematic package seems to be procps which makes the system unbootable if installed. But I am not exactly sure if I have it installed and it works, or not. |
23:51.59 | hightower2 | (And I can't check right now) |
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