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| 07:51.42 | lunacat7 | anyone running devuan with runit? ~ just wondering if migrating to runit is trivial, or if we could do with a wiki page for that |
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| 11:58.53 | Wizzup | nextime: hi, I heard you're one of the CI guys. Can you point me at some documentation to get me started on building packages? My end goal is to build packages for the maemo-port-to-devuan, and once that works decently, see if I can have it auto generate a repository as well |
| 11:59.17 | Wizzup | I might need an account somewhere as well (cc parazyd) |
| 12:00.19 | parazyd | Centurion_Dan, hellekin ^^ |
| 12:05.21 | jaromil | Wizzup: hi! make a git.devuan.org account, upload the codebase there |
| 12:05.45 | jaromil | you need your account AND your package enabled to be built on our CI |
| 12:06.07 | jaromil | when that is done then you can make a branch and trigger build for that |
| 12:06.21 | Wizzup | Sounds good. |
| 12:06.46 | jaromil | best to continue after the package is up, I'd suggest we create a jessie-maemo sub-repository |
| 12:07.05 | jaromil | then you'd create a jessie-maemo branch and open a 'build' issue assigned to @autobuild |
| 12:07.42 | Wizzup | That sounds totally doable. I will get cracking, see if I can get somewhere in the next few days |
| 12:07.50 | jaromil | of course best if you do test the package locally and only when you are sure we trigger the build. each build on the CI needs also to have the debian/changelog updated |
| 12:09.29 | Wizzup | Yeah, I need to get in the whole debian package building. Used to Gentoo, but I'm sure I'll figure it out |
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| 14:37.36 | hellekin | Wizzup: https://talk.devuan.org/t/os-documentation-how-to-package-for-devuan/568 |
| 14:39.12 | hellekin | Wizzup: https://talk.devuan.org/t/os-documentation-how-to-package-for-devuan/568/14 is a good start |
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| 14:46.25 | golinux | lunacat7: You might want to look at this http://troubleshooters.com/linux/init/ |
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| 16:43.04 | hellekin | https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/news/reproducible-build-summit-2nd-edition.html |
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| 18:29.49 | wulllst | when i sign out from devuan git, i'm redirected to talk.devuan.org. why that? |
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| 18:40.37 | aitor | hellekin: i still dind't give a try to GNU Guix |
| 18:40.56 | aitor | its package management seems to use Lisp |
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| 18:48.18 | aitor | brb |
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| 19:04.15 | hellekin | wulllst: why not? |
| 19:04.29 | hellekin | https://talk.devuan.org/t/software-freedom-your-way/592 |
| 19:07.26 | wulllst | hellekin: i was just looking for a rationale... |
| 19:07.36 | hellekin | wulllst: tools integration |
| 19:08.13 | wulllst | ok |
| 19:11.40 | wulllst | well, as for the devuan website as a tool, it feels kind of structurally opaque y. |
| 19:11.53 | wulllst | to me |
| 19:13.07 | golinux | wullist: https://dev1galaxy.org. More to your liking? |
| 19:13.08 | Centurion_Dan | hellekin, don't do that. Revert that change so logging out of git returns people to the login page for git. |
| 19:13.43 | golinux | It is a hijacking IMO and unacceptable. |
| 19:13.47 | hellekin | Centurion_Dan: it's been there forever, but yes, whatever you want |
| 19:15.32 | wulllst | golinux: well, that page (dev1galaxy) seems well structured indeed. |
| 19:15.37 | hellekin | what is unacceptable golinux, is that I announce a docsprint and promote a platform, and that you step in to sabotage this work. This is unacceptable. Your social behavior is unacceptable. |
| 19:15.55 | hellekin | wulllst: the structure is a rip-off of talk.do, so yes, it is :P |
| 19:16.04 | Centurion_Dan | Having links to talk.do and the devuan website on the login page is fine, but hijacking an exit to dump people in another site is simply unacceptable |
| 19:17.02 | golinux | And hellekin removed the link to dev1galaxy that was posted there. |
| 19:17.03 | Centurion_Dan | hellekin: neither the time nor the place. Don't go there. |
| 19:17.19 | hellekin | Centurion_Dan: it's not 'another site' it's *our* documentation platform, and it was going to https://talk.devuan.org/tags/welcome |
| 19:17.33 | hellekin | golinux: yes I did, of course! |
| 19:17.37 | hellekin | golinux: sabotage |
| 19:17.59 | golinux | (hellekin does not play well in the community sandbox) |
| 19:18.03 | hellekin | the git.do logout doesn't redirect anymore |
| 19:18.44 | hellekin | I have other things to do tonight than reap that shit :) |
| 19:18.50 | Centurion_Dan | hellekin: I don't care. It's unacceptable. If there had to be a redirection - it should be to www.devuan.org, and even that I think is unnacceptable. |
| 19:19.23 | hellekin | Centurion_Dan: why do you think it's unacceptable to redirect Devuan users to Devuan sites? |
| 19:19.38 | hellekin | Centurion_Dan: anyway, your call, it's done, have fun |
| 19:19.58 | golinux | Redirection that the user doesn't approve is ALWAYS unacceptable |
| 19:20.05 | hellekin | ha |
| 19:20.07 | hellekin | ok |
| 19:20.35 | hellekin | then the default logout action is unacceptable, don't logout! |
| 19:20.41 | hellekin | lol |
| 19:21.01 | hellekin | golinux: enjoy the reading https://bxl.dyne.org/actions/software-freedom-your-way |
| 19:23.53 | golinux | Hmmm . . . Justifying lines does not seem to work so well if the lines are short |
| 19:24.30 | OmegaPhil | wat do you mean |
| 19:25.11 | golinux | Exactly |
| 19:27.47 | jonadab | At some point you have to start altering the interletter spacing within words... |
| 19:27.53 | jonadab | But even that only gets you so far. |
| 19:28.16 | jonadab | Full justification is probably best not used on columns wider than about four inches. |
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| 19:28.46 | jonadab | Well, depending on type size. |
| 19:30.47 | hellekin | yeah, click the cover image and read the PDF. |
| 19:32.00 | golinux | There's a lot of talk about community in that booklet but theory rarely translates to real life practice. |
| 19:32.20 | golinux | What font is that? It's a bit strange to read |
| 19:33.24 | hellekin | golinux: you comment before reading. That's not theory, that's speculation. And if you're unhappy with the form, it's Free Art, go ahead and fix it for yourself, dear refusenik. |
| 19:33.37 | hellekin | bye \o |
| 19:34.52 | golinux | If I want to read, it will be Shakespeare. ;) |
| 19:35.17 | hellekin | yeah, right. Stay in the community sandbox :P |
| 19:36.44 | golinux | Or better watch: https://vimeo.com/channels/551513/58737725 |
| 19:37.02 | golinux | is watching it for maybe the 4th time atm. |
| 19:38.23 | golinux | What a visual feast! |
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