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| 02:23.37 | Digit | i got a SHA256 mismatch trying to get firefox. :/ after apt-get update too ~ oh, never mind. apt-get update --fix-missing seems to have sorted it. ~~ but i still cant run firefox, which was the problem i was trying to fix with an upgrade. might be a bug report for mozilla. :/ |
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| 07:04.55 | \renaud | remmina doesn't really seem to like being minimized on kde |
| 07:05.14 | \renaud | it appears in the taskbar, but you can't do anything with it |
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| 09:02.40 | Se7en | Hello, I am having issues and I don't know if it is with the system or a packager |
| 09:03.05 | Se7en | My system has sound. I can play system sounds, I can play sounds though Mozilla, I can play sound. I use ALSA+Pulse |
| 09:03.23 | Se7en | However, MPV recently (and suddenly without warning) stopped playing sound |
| 09:03.29 | Se7en | It's configured to play though Pulse |
| 09:03.53 | Se7en | There is no error, it reports it is playing through the Pulse Dameon, and it's not a codec thing because all codecs I have tried do not work |
| 09:04.08 | Se7en | So is this an issue with the Pulse dameon or MPV, which I have gotten through deb-multimedia |
| 09:08.46 | buZz | what is MPV? |
| 09:09.02 | buZz | ah some mplayer wrapper? |
| 09:09.08 | Se7en | MPV is a popular fork of Mplayer |
| 09:09.13 | Se7en | Not a wrapper to Mplayer, a full fork |
| 09:09.25 | Se7en | And a lot lighter than VLC |
| 09:09.28 | buZz | oh, never heard of :D |
| 09:09.50 | buZz | does mplayer work? |
| 09:10.07 | Se7en | I haven't tried. I'd have to install it |
| 09:10.08 | buZz | did you know that in pulseaudio you get mute/volume -per- program? |
| 09:10.17 | Se7en | I use amixer |
| 09:10.35 | Se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.37 | Se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.38 | buZz | for alsa thats correct, but pulse has other volume controls |
| 09:10.39 | Se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.41 | Se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.43 | Se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.45 | Se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.47 | Se7en | My .xbindkeysrc |
| 09:10.49 | Se7en | Oh |
| 09:10.56 | Se7en | But if pulse was muted then wouldn't audio not work, period? |
| 09:11.26 | buZz | no, pulse has mute&volume -per- program |
| 09:11.31 | Se7en | Oh, ok |
| 09:11.36 | Se7en | It's pavu or something, right? |
| 09:11.41 | Se7en | How do I reset it |
| 09:11.43 | buZz | i think so, googling for you |
| 09:11.58 | Se7en | No nee,d I think it's in the arch wiki |
| 09:12.22 | buZz | pavucontrol is a gtk thingy for it |
| 09:12.42 | Se7en | Oh, there's a command to have PulseAudio use ALSAmixers sync |
| 09:12.50 | Se7en | According to the arch wiki it's rmmod snd_pcm_oss |
| 09:13.05 | Se7en | Wait, no |
| 09:15.08 | jaromil | hey buZz ! |
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| 09:15.24 | jaromil | mpv... works well, yet I'm quite romantic about Arpad Geoffry's code |
| 09:15.58 | jaromil | but that was before the fork of the fork or so :) |
| 09:16.21 | buZz | heya jaro :) |
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| 09:16.39 | jaromil | and another OT, related to IRC http://ircv3.net <- worth interacting |
| 09:17.22 | buZz | fancy :) |
| 09:18.04 | buZz | jaromil: which project is Arpad's ? |
| 09:18.16 | jaromil | mplayer |
| 09:18.20 | buZz | ah :) |
| 09:18.57 | jaromil | bad spelling sorry, hungarian name... |
| 09:18.59 | jaromil | A'rpi |
| 09:19.07 | jaromil | http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/interview-Arpi.html |
| 09:19.36 | jaromil | his code was the absolute best at that time, esp. considering how resistant it was to file errors |
| 09:19.52 | Se7en | Well, I was able to fix it with pavucontrol but I don't see why it became this way in the first place |
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| 09:23.08 | buZz | Se7en: most audio interfaces come muted by default |
| 09:23.24 | buZz | to prevent unwanted noise etc |
| 09:23.51 | Se7en | Yeah, but it wasn't muted then it seems to have randomly muted itself |
| 09:24.05 | Se7en | It seemsed to be some kind of interfeerence from mpv itself |
| 09:24.26 | buZz | maybe you pressed |
| 09:24.28 | buZz | 'M' |
| 09:24.29 | buZz | :) |
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| 09:24.57 | Se7en | Maybe... |
| 09:24.59 | Se7en | Ha |
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| 09:27.31 | Se7en | I forgot that that was a keybinding since I swithced to using actual function keys |
| 09:29.18 | buZz | weee |
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| 11:02.29 | edbarx | Successfully connected using WEP => WEP will also be supported by simple-netaid-backend |
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| 11:16.00 | buZz | people still use WEP? |
| 11:30.42 | KatolaZ | buZz: AFAIK WEP was discontinued in 2004 |
| 11:32.35 | buZz | hmm, still configurable on winderp10 :P |
| 11:33.29 | KatolaZ | well, also NETBEUI is still configurable in windows10... |
| 11:33.55 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 11:34.41 | buZz | ^_^ |
| 11:36.25 | buZz | it isnt btw :P they just call it 'client for microsoft networks' |
| 11:38.34 | KatolaZ | ....which is netbeui |
| 11:38.38 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 11:39.01 | buZz | yeah, because they still use it |
| 11:39.11 | buZz | i cant install IPX for instance |
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| 12:12.38 | Gup | it probably doesn't really matter as I don't think it gets displayed or copied to the install target, but I've just noticed /etc/lsb-release during the installer still says beta1 during a beta2 install |
| 12:13.45 | Gup | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.36 | Gup | just got a bit confused about whether i was installing from the right usb sitck |
| 12:17.09 | Gup | I though Gnome and other DE's that weren't installable had been removed from tasksel on beta2? Did I imagine that? |
| 12:18.04 | Gup | when i got to tasksel and saw they were still there I thought I might be using beta1 so i checked /etc/lsb-release which erroneously confirmed i was... hence my confusion! |
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| 17:09.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm >>Providing a mechanism to allow clients to automatically detect, move to, and keep using secure connections<< sounds actually useful in http://ircv3.net . the rest is like https://xkcd.com/927/ |
| 17:11.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | xkcd even explicitly mentions "instant messaging" there |
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| 19:58.58 | AntoFox | someone can help me to make a build of mate-common of mate-desktop-environment??? :) |
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| 23:13.41 | underd0g | sup guys |
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| 23:51.59 | Juesto | welp, what i should remove if i want sound without pulseaudio without breaking sound or applications? |
| 23:52.04 | Juesto | i want to have sound as root |
| 23:52.09 | Juesto | without needing to launch something |
| 23:53.06 | MinceR | probably pulseaudio itself (that is, the server) |
| 23:53.18 | MinceR | the client library will probably kept on by dependencies |
| 23:53.51 | MinceR | and if your /etc/asound.conf has blocks containing "type pulse", you may need to comment those out as well |
| 23:54.38 | Centurion-Dan2 | Juesto: having sound as root sounds all kind of wrong!! |
| 23:54.42 | Juesto | asound.conf doesnt exist.... |
| 23:54.47 | Juesto | ... |
| 23:55.14 | Juesto | i know im not contributing to linux sanity |
| 23:55.22 | Juesto | hygiene* |
| 23:55.23 | Centurion-Dan2 | You don't need pulseaudio, but should install alsa-utils, alsamixer etc |
| 23:55.26 | Juesto | but help or not? |
| 23:55.36 | Juesto | Well i have pulseaudio installed already :/ |
| 23:56.13 | golinux | Juesto: And that's not a good thing |
| 23:56.44 | Centurion-Dan2 | you're free to uninstall it. You'll likely need to leave libpulse0 around because apps like gstreamer depend on it and fail badly if it |
| 23:56.49 | Centurion-Dan2 | is not there |
| 23:57.07 | Juesto | and removing MTA ? |
| 23:57.24 | Centurion-Dan2 | put you can uninstall pulseaudio quite happily |
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| 23:58.07 | Juesto | should i install lsb? |
| 23:58.54 | Centurion-Dan2 | I don't see any need for it, but if it satisfies an esoteric dependence on somehting that is ok. |
| 23:59.38 | Centurion-Dan2 | does removing pulseaudio want to remove your MTA (mail transport agent)?? |
| 23:59.38 | Juesto | what from gnome doesnt have the infamous adwaita ui? |
| 23:59.48 | Juesto | no, but i additionally want to get rid of MTA |