00:00.15 | Xenguy | live, are we? :) |
00:01.24 | fsmithred | no, but I downgraded to previous versions |
00:01.46 | Xenguy | nice |
00:02.03 | fsmithred | don't know if it matters, or if it does matter, whether it makes a difference |
00:02.10 | DeFender1031 | any response on what the deal is with these updates? |
00:02.25 | fsmithred | no, and I forgot to log back into #debian |
00:16.26 | DeFender1031 | https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3793 |
00:16.37 | DeFender1031 | apparently the update is legit at least. |
00:16.46 | Xenguy | ty DeFender1031 |
00:17.48 | DeFender1031 | as for not being able to complete it becuase stuff is already running, that's another issue entirely. |
00:17.59 | DeFender1031 | I have not yet attempted to update it myself. |
00:18.12 | Xenguy | I think I might wait a bit |
00:18.48 | DeFender1031 | looks like a pretty serious vulnerability though |
00:20.43 | Xenguy | It seems to be about local users, which is better than remote of course |
00:21.40 | DeFender1031 | sure |
00:22.11 | DeFender1031 | fsmithred, question: when attempting the upgrade, did it bork your system or did it just fail to install? |
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00:24.08 | fsmithred | DeFender1031, it just complained. After reboot (for new kernel) I upgraded login again, and it did not complain. |
00:24.27 | fsmithred | same thing happened on downgrade - complained the first time, after reboot, did not complain |
00:24.29 | DeFender1031 | Xenguy, on the other hand, plenty of stuff runs as user, and if, say, a browser vulnerability could be coupled with this attack, it would become remote. |
00:24.42 | DeFender1031 | hmm |
00:25.33 | fsmithred | DeFender1031, thanks for finding the security advisory |
00:26.29 | DeFender1031 | fsmithred, worked fine for me. I'm all upgraded. |
00:26.40 | DeFender1031 | I suspect it may have had to do with your kernel upgrade |
00:26.48 | DeFender1031 | (your issue i mean.) |
00:26.57 | DeFender1031 | also, i didn't find it exactly... |
00:27.08 | DeFender1031 | [2/26/2017 2:18:05 am] <DeFender1031> was there an update to passwd and login recently? |
00:27.10 | DeFender1031 | [2/26/2017 2:18:25 am] <missmbob> yes |
00:27.11 | DeFender1031 | [2/26/2017 2:18:36 am] <DeFender1031> where can I find details? |
00:27.13 | DeFender1031 | [2/26/2017 2:19:01 am] <missmbob> https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3793 |
00:27.17 | Xenguy | I'll dive in and upgrade then, and report back |
00:27.17 | DeFender1031 | (In #debian) |
00:27.54 | fsmithred | gotta ask questions the right way, I guess |
00:28.14 | fsmithred | so I guess I can upgrade again |
00:28.15 | DeFender1031 | yeah. I checked the log and noticed that you had not quite taken the direct approach, so I figured what the hell. |
00:29.02 | Xenguy | Upgrade was fine, yay |
00:29.23 | DeFender1031 | Glad to hear it. |
00:31.28 | DeFender1031 | fsmithred, no criticism for not taking the direct approach, btw... I've been burned a lot in there from taking the direct approach. Part of why I like devuan so much is how chill, patient, and helpful people in here are. |
00:33.37 | Xenguy | Well spoken, I feel the same way |
00:34.26 | fsmithred | np |
00:34.33 | fsmithred | I didn't take it as criticism |
00:34.59 | fsmithred | and even if I did, I'd try to take something useful from it |
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00:44.28 | AlexLikeRock | help |
00:44.44 | AlexLikeRock | i try to install privative drivers |
00:45.48 | AlexLikeRock | with nvidia -kernel -304xx-..... |
00:46.07 | AlexLikeRock | kernel 4.9 |
00:46.16 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:46.18 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:46.21 | fsmithred | using packages from repo or binary from nvidia site |
00:46.27 | AlexLikeRock | repos |
00:46.37 | fsmithred | oh, you're in ascii? |
00:47.29 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
00:47.43 | AlexLikeRock | and some web page,, i see |
00:47.59 | AlexLikeRock | "add id hardware to xorg-config |
00:48.02 | fsmithred | what I've seen in the past is that debian packages for nvidia don't work until testing becomes stable |
00:48.05 | AlexLikeRock | BusID "PCI00:0d.0" |
00:48.15 | AlexLikeRock | its rigth like that ? |
00:48.29 | fsmithred | check your lspci output |
00:48.39 | fsmithred | it'll tell you what bus your video is on |
00:49.14 | AlexLikeRock | . |
00:49.15 | AlexLikeRock | 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) |
00:49.41 | fsmithred | yeah, that looks like it matches |
00:49.52 | AlexLikeRock | my question its |
00:50.06 | AlexLikeRock | BusID "PCI00:0d.0" OR BusID "00:0d.0" |
00:50.12 | AlexLikeRock | firsth or second ? |
00:50.23 | fsmithred | don't know. I'd have to search for an example |
00:52.49 | fsmithred | whenever I use nvidia drivers, I install from the nvidia binaries |
00:53.30 | AlexLikeRock | years ago, i install nvidia binaries, and make hard to UNISTALL |
00:53.45 | fsmithred | can you run nvidia-xconfig? |
00:54.48 | AlexLikeRock | res |
00:54.50 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
00:55.09 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:55.52 | fsmithred | I can never remember how to install nvidia from repo |
00:56.04 | fsmithred | or remove |
00:56.17 | fsmithred | guess I'm just used to the other way |
00:56.36 | fsmithred | brb |
00:59.08 | fsmithred | AlexLikeRock, you read the debian wiki on nvidia install? |
01:03.53 | AlexLikeRock | fsmithred, |
01:03.58 | AlexLikeRock | not soo much info |
01:03.59 | AlexLikeRock | https://wiki.debian.org/es/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_7_.2BAKs-Wheezy.2BALs- |
01:05.22 | fsmithred | GeForce 7025? Is that an old card? |
01:06.44 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
01:06.58 | AlexLikeRock | like 10 years |
01:07.12 | AlexLikeRock | still workin my TM GYGABYTE |
01:07.17 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
01:07.43 | fsmithred | might be too old for legacy driver |
01:08.12 | fsmithred | I had to replace my card for nvidia drivers to work in jessie -that was a 5750 |
01:08.30 | fsmithred | but I don't see 7000 series listed at nvidia site |
01:08.46 | AlexLikeRock | hahahaha |
01:09.42 | AlexLikeRock | # nvidia-detect |
01:09.42 | AlexLikeRock | Detected NVIDIA GPUs: |
01:09.42 | AlexLikeRock | 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] [10de:03d6] (rev a2) |
01:09.42 | AlexLikeRock | Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) |
01:09.42 | AlexLikeRock | Your card is only supported up to the 304 legacy drivers series. |
01:09.44 | AlexLikeRock | It is recommended to install the |
01:09.46 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
01:09.48 | AlexLikeRock | package. |
01:10.08 | fsmithred | ok, try that |
01:10.21 | AlexLikeRock | its instaled |
01:11.14 | fsmithred | and that model is listed for the 304 driver |
01:12.18 | fsmithred | I've never gotten the debian packages to work in Testing |
01:12.35 | fsmithred | squeeze/wheezy/jessie |
01:14.24 | AlexLikeRock | i do |
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02:35.16 | AlexLikeRock | help |
02:35.31 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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03:08.54 | AlexLikeRock | Devuan GNU/Linux 1 |
03:16.02 | Xenguy | vlc? |
03:16.13 | Xenguy | browser? |
03:17.06 | AlexLikeRock | startx |
03:17.49 | AlexLikeRock | Xenguy, http://paste.debian.net/916849/ |
03:19.31 | Xenguy | I wonder if it's more nividia madness? |
03:20.36 | Xenguy | To be honest, I have to wonder what hardware it is, cos I haven't seen Xorg problems with Linux installs for a really long time |
03:22.16 | Xenguy | Search the error message, and check you logs, and lastly if necessary check the hardware compatability if necessary |
03:22.22 | Xenguy | *your |
03:22.55 | golinux | Have you tried to let sgfxi set up your card? http://smxi.org/ |
03:22.56 | AlexLikeRock | i done all |
03:23.02 | Xenguy | But I'd check Nvidia stuff first |
03:23.13 | AlexLikeRock | my GPU its legacy |
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03:26.06 | golinux | Xenguy: sgfxi will install Nvidia stuff if it's available |
03:31.48 | Xenguy | Sounds like a good shot for AlexLikeRock then |
03:32.03 | AlexLikeRock | too bad :-( |
03:32.28 | Xenguy | so sad |
03:32.39 | AlexLikeRock | ranking at http://distrowatch.com place # 108 Devuan GNU+Linux |
03:32.45 | AlexLikeRock | very good |
03:33.06 | Xenguy | There's so many distros nowadays, amazing |
03:33.34 | AlexLikeRock | active distro |
03:33.49 | AlexLikeRock | ingeneral its #126 |
03:34.10 | Xenguy | It'll be there for those who need it |
03:34.49 | AlexLikeRock | golinux, |
03:34.53 | Xenguy | I feel I do, else it's probably into the BSDs, which is fine, but I like Linux a lot, and know it well enough |
03:34.57 | AlexLikeRock | do you wan a help me ? |
03:35.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
03:36.39 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
03:36.50 | AlexLikeRock | looks like go up .. |
03:36.51 | AlexLikeRock | up... |
03:36.59 | AlexLikeRock | uuuup! :-> |
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04:44.15 | AlexLikeRock | any one to hel me ? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=582 |
04:47.38 | fsmithred | AlexLikeRock, what display manager are you using? |
04:47.50 | AlexLikeRock | CTR |
04:47.56 | fsmithred | what's that? |
04:48.05 | fsmithred | oh, CRT? |
04:48.14 | fsmithred | monitor? |
04:48.17 | fsmithred | I mean... |
04:48.30 | fsmithred | are you using gdm, kdm, slim, lightdm? |
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04:49.39 | AlexLikeRock | ligthdm |
04:49.53 | AlexLikeRock | tanks for your help |
04:50.34 | fsmithred | well, I don't know if I have any help for you |
04:51.02 | fsmithred | I saw 'startx' above, and I wanted to say that you must have a display manager to get X running in ascii |
04:51.46 | fsmithred | which nvidia packages did you install? |
04:52.16 | fsmithred | dpkg -l |grep nvidia |
04:55.49 | AlexLikeRock | http://paste.debian.net/916857/ |
04:57.43 | fsmithred | you have at least two versions installed |
04:58.11 | fsmithred | I think you need to uninstall one version and everything that belongs to that version |
04:58.39 | fsmithred | it may not be easy to separate them |
04:58.59 | fsmithred | I would uninstall everything nvidia and start over with only the correct driver |
04:59.03 | fsmithred | 304 |
04:59.10 | fsmithred | not 340 |
05:00.27 | AlexLikeRock | Install the 2 after 3 hours, because I was desperate, no solutions |
05:00.35 | AlexLikeRock | ok , unisntalling 340 |
05:02.54 | fsmithred | you have the longest list of nvidia packages I've ever seen |
05:03.09 | fsmithred | which ones go with 304 and which ones go with 340? |
05:03.45 | fsmithred | can you tell? |
05:09.44 | fsmithred | I would get rid of all of it. Keep running 'dpkg -l |grep nvidia' and removing until it's all gone. |
05:09.50 | fsmithred | then install nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms |
05:10.23 | fsmithred | you probably need to also install nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-setting, but those might come with the first package |
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05:12.32 | AlexLikeRock | done |
05:12.33 | AlexLikeRock | http://paste.debian.net/916861/ |
05:23.21 | fsmithred | what did you do? |
05:24.43 | fsmithred | <fsmithred> I would get rid of all of it. Keep running 'dpkg -l |grep nvidia' and removing until it's all gone. |
05:24.43 | fsmithred | <fsmithred> then install nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms |
05:24.43 | fsmithred | <fsmithred> you probably need to also install nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-setting, but those might come with the first package |
05:24.49 | fsmithred | I have to go to sleep |
05:24.52 | fsmithred | good luck |
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05:28.13 | AlexLikeRock | aptitude install nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms |
05:28.13 | AlexLikeRock | nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms its installed at last version (304.134-2) |
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05:29.57 | AlexLikeRock | its installed nvidia-xconfig |
05:30.00 | AlexLikeRock | . |
05:30.05 | AlexLikeRock | aptitude install nvidia-setting |
05:30.05 | AlexLikeRock | Couldn't find any package whose name is "nvidia-setting", but there are 3 packages which contain "nvidia-setting" in their name: |
05:30.05 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
05:30.05 | AlexLikeRock | Unable to apply some actions, aborting |
05:30.16 | AlexLikeRock | dam! |
05:31.09 | LeoTh3o | you likely mis-spelt it, try again with 'nvidia-settings', and before installing, check that it loads the legacy driver |
05:31.14 | LeoTh3o | er, legacy version* |
05:31.27 | LeoTh3o | you'll want all the pieces of the driver to match |
05:32.16 | AlexLikeRock | puff! |
05:32.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
05:32.30 | AlexLikeRock | big deal !!!!! |
05:33.10 | AlexLikeRock | hold on ! |
05:33.14 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
05:35.28 | AlexLikeRock | ii nvidia-settings 375.26-3 i386 tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver |
05:38.30 | LeoTh3o | it sounds to me like a metapackage, which should install the appropriate version along with itself |
05:38.40 | LeoTh3o | if you only have nvidia-settings, it looks a bit weird to me |
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05:42.41 | AlexLikeRock | yes its like a Bug |
05:44.57 | LeoTh3o | are you sure you purged all the packages before? |
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05:53.22 | AlexLikeRock | take a look |
05:53.43 | AlexLikeRock | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#configure |
05:53.55 | AlexLikeRock | what its that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf ????? |
05:54.06 | AlexLikeRock | new garbage to systemd ? |
05:56.38 | LeoTh3o | no/not necessarily? I don't know all the ins and outs of your specific system and of what you're trying to install, and I got only a page of log, which is not most helpful to understand |
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16:30.15 | jaromil | parazyd: here we go https://github.com/dyne/tinfoil |
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19:33.21 | leafwiz | Hey, there is some software that I would like to try out that uses docker. I don't know anything about docker, when I do apt-cache search docker, I don't find it under ascii/ceres |
19:33.53 | leafwiz | Is docker tied to systemd? therefore it is not available to devuan? |
19:35.10 | leafwiz | or is it just part of another package. Sorry if this is an RTFM question. |
19:37.25 | wulllst | well, i can find it through apt |
19:37.52 | wulllst | ok, i'm in jessie... |
19:42.04 | leafwiz | ah.. oki |
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19:48.42 | leafwiz | the name of the package is docker-engine? |
19:52.29 | pydsigner | leafwiz: You can use it without systemd. |
19:58.37 | leafwiz | pydsigner: I see, just confused about docker vs docker-compose. |
20:00.00 | leafwiz | I have to read up on it |
20:00.19 | leafwiz | seems docker-compose is a new version of docker? |
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20:19.30 | pydsigner | Ehhhhh not really |
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