| 00:02.39 | golinux | Please take chit chat to #debianfork |
| 00:02.59 | Latrina | will do thanks |
| 00:03.06 | golinux | Cool! |
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| 00:20.35 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 | https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
| 00:21.39 | msiism | i'm trying to put together an explanation of how to verify devuan release images and their checksum files. the console output when verifying the signature of the checksum file contains the signees e-mail address. would it be ok to put that into the wiki (http://wiki.friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/devuan_doc:getting_devuan#verification)? |
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| 00:53.29 | AlexLikeRock | Sun Jun 11 18:53:08 MDT 2017 |
| 00:53.36 | AlexLikeRock | im sleeping .... |
| 00:54.08 | AlexLikeRock | all most done , my translation .. |
| 00:57.47 | AlexLikeRock | LOL google translate BLOCK my IP addres XDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 00:58.06 | AlexLikeRock | i will never use BING |
| 00:58.30 | AlexLikeRock | translate yahoo , not exist , any more :-( |
| 01:00.13 | AlexLikeRock | well , BABEL FISH, its BACK ! ! (?) |
| 01:00.17 | AlexLikeRock | https://www.babelfish.com |
| 01:04.24 | Latrina | AlexLikeRock, do you know any Linux / Unix conference in Mexico? Possibly in CDMX |
| 01:04.44 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 01:05.00 | AlexLikeRock | "el Rancho electronico " Mexico D.F. |
| 01:05.12 | Latrina | thx |
| 01:05.23 | AlexLikeRock | some times are mettings there , about , DEBIAN, Free software |
| 01:06.18 | Latrina | AlexLikeRock, I dont judge whatever distro, OS one uses |
| 01:06.29 | AlexLikeRock | how to find https://ranchoelectronico.org/como-llegar/ |
| 01:06.35 | Latrina | its all about meeting interesting people |
| 01:06.42 | AlexLikeRock | contact https://ranchoelectronico.org/contacto/ |
| 01:07.48 | Latrina | thx |
| 01:07.54 | AlexLikeRock | (y) |
| 01:09.11 | AlexLikeRock | and mozilla TEAM |
| 01:10.29 | AlexLikeRock | telegram for a mozilla-Mexico @mozmx |
| 01:11.04 | Latrina | I am not quite interested in Mozilla development |
| 01:11.16 | Latrina | besides thunderbird |
| 01:11.58 | AlexLikeRock | other team |
| 01:12.37 | AlexLikeRock | "FLISOL" |
| 01:12.40 | AlexLikeRock | https://flisol.info/FLISOL2017 |
| 01:13.24 | AlexLikeRock | this are around Mexico |
| 01:13.40 | AlexLikeRock | Baja California |
| 01:13.47 | AlexLikeRock | chiapas |
| 01:14.18 | AlexLikeRock | coahuila (closed thant you ) |
| 01:14.31 | AlexLikeRock | Mexico D.F. , and more |
| 01:14.41 | Latrina | I am in Mexico DF |
| 01:14.47 | AlexLikeRock | oh |
| 01:14.59 | Latrina | but I often travel to south Texas for work |
| 01:15.33 | AlexLikeRock | more STATES : https://flisol.info/FLISOL2009/Mexico |
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| 02:08.35 | AlexLikeRock | finish !! |
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| 02:24.10 | AlexLikeRock | DONE |
| 02:24.13 | AlexLikeRock | http://devuan-mx.org/os/software-libre/ |
| 02:24.29 | AlexLikeRock | time to play base ball |
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| 03:55.11 | AlexLikeRock | im back |
| 03:55.19 | AlexLikeRock | what news ? |
| 03:55.46 | AlexLikeRock | ok, |
| 03:55.48 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:23.08 | AlexLikeRock | what its the "keyring " of mate ? |
| 06:23.26 | AlexLikeRock | devuan-keyring ??? |
| 06:24.10 | zdzichu | the collection of keys |
| 06:25.00 | AlexLikeRock | devuan-keyring work fine with MATE ? |
| 06:25.43 | AlexLikeRock | i found "gnome-keyring" |
| 06:25.54 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.35 | zdzichu | gnome-keyring in turn is an application |
| 06:27.38 | AlexLikeRock | ok, |
| 06:27.45 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.49 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.50 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
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| 07:15.20 | jaromil | msiism: re verification, thanks! its useful. but please don't put private emails there, just the devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org email which reaches us all anyway |
| 07:15.45 | jaromil | hope this message gets to you via the archives |
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| 08:09.26 | _moep_ | hello |
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| 09:04.58 | Huhn | hi there |
| 09:09.55 | Huhn | I'm an editor with German Linux-Magazin, working on an article for the 1.0.0 release (congrats!), and I was wondering how long the LTS is going to be? I couldn't find anything on the project's website |
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| 09:24.41 | parazyd | Huhn: so far the plan is to keep it as long as debian does |
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| 09:27.37 | Huhn | parazyd: ah, thanks -- I guess, this goes only for the first Devuan release then, and later on you might develop your own release cycle |
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| 09:27.52 | parazyd | yes |
| 09:27.56 | Huhn | wonderful |
| 09:28.02 | parazyd | :) |
| 09:28.36 | Huhn | parazyd: can you also tell me what the difference between dekstop-live and uefi-desktop-live image is? |
| 09:28.58 | Huhn | sorry, if I missed the information in the readme.txt |
| 09:29.26 | parazyd | the latter boots on uefi-only hardware |
| 09:29.44 | parazyd | and the installer ISOs boot on both |
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| 09:30.16 | Huhn | great, adding that information as well (and staying on the channel for a bit, in case I need to ask more questions) |
| 09:30.31 | parazyd | sure, feel free :) |
| 09:30.33 | Huhn | :) |
| 09:30.37 | parazyd | thanks for writing the article! |
| 09:31.35 | Huhn | np |
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| 09:48.30 | jaromil | Huhn: thanks for your interest!! yes as parazyd said, Debian LTS is up untile 2020 so we certainly support it for the same period, and that's easy, but perhaps for even more on our own infrastructure if it makes sense and growth allows. this is all to be seen, yet all indicators ATM suggest we can really grow a lot on Devuan in the coming year. Please also note part of the future development is funded by the |
| 09:48.32 | jaromil | adoption of Devuan in the DECODE project (EU H2020/ICT12.b) https://decodeproject.eu |
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| 10:00.27 | Huhn | jaromil: thanks, useful information! |
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| 10:09.04 | jaromil | its also in the latest stable announcement, there is a section on projects based/adopting Devuan (of which DECODE is the most remarkable) and a list of derivative distributions. we are very proud of supporting all that as we conceinve Devuan as being a *base* distro easy to customise, that's also why there is active development of an SDK (Simple Distro Kit) |
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| 12:58.14 | aitor | Huhn: nice to see a Linux Magazine contributor here :) |
| 12:58.39 | aitor | i bought a lot of editions, and i still buy it time to time |
| 13:00.29 | aitor | the spanish edition disappeared a couple of years ago, but it's still available in english |
| 13:05.36 | aitor | and nice to see klauss knopper's consultant team still working |
| 13:08.43 | Huhn | aitor: thanks, having a lot of fun with this article :) |
| 13:08.52 | aitor | consider the little purpy book of devuan (by Hellekin): |
| 13:08.53 | aitor | https://talk.devuan.org/t/software-freedom-your-way/592 |
| 13:09.15 | aitor | which is being translated to spanish: |
| 13:09.39 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/index.php/es/2015-12-20-23-42-21/el-pequeno-libro-purpura-de-devuan |
| 13:09.53 | Huhn | great, will include the link in the article (which is for German readers, not sure if it gets translated at some point) |
| 13:10.05 | aitor | thanks :) |
| 13:10.41 | aitor | tiem to eat, see you |
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| 13:10.45 | aitor | *tiem |
| 13:10.52 | aitor | *time :) |
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| 16:21.55 | Lydia_K | LOL |
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| 16:22.11 | Lydia_K | whoops, I was scrolled up a lot. |
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| 16:35.23 | Guest63179 | Does anyone know where I can find an installer ISO for Ascii, if there even is one? |
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| 16:40.06 | djph | seems that there's not an ISO, you just swap 'jessie' to 'ascii' in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:41.00 | furrywolf | I missed the start of this, but if the question is "how do you install ascii?", you can pick ascii if you select an advanced installation. |
| 16:41.32 | djph | ooh, fun times |
| 16:42.30 | Guest63179 | Thanks. |
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| 17:00.31 | TheFlyingCorpse | What are the goals for packages in devuan? Parity with Debian? |
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| 17:15.04 | gnarface | TheFlyingCorpse: more or less. some exceptions |
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| 17:42.31 | AntoFox | o/ |
| 17:42.46 | Kizano | \o |
| 17:42.56 | Kizano | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.02 | Kizano | missed that first one... |
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| 17:47.36 | TheFlyingCorpse | gnarface, exceptions Such as systemd? :-P |
| 17:48.10 | TheFlyingCorpse | I was thinking about icinga, Icinga2 and monitoringplugins with their dependencies |
| 17:49.13 | TheFlyingCorpse | At least Icinga2 :-) |
| 17:50.10 | TheFlyingCorpse | It is getting rather heated at work due to systemd. I'm looking at Devuan, rather than going over to BSD or as my coworker wants to, Slack. |
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| 17:55.46 | xzgv | Hi, just wanted to report that I installed kernel 4.9 from backports and been using it exclusevely and runs excellent in all aspects :) |
| 17:59.35 | parazyd | golinux: i had sonething like this in mind for the forums sticky: http://sprunge.us/QAIh |
| 18:02.51 | parazyd | TheFlyingCorpse: anyone can maintain packages for Devuan |
| 18:03.05 | parazyd | we still need to write down a proper path to do it though |
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| 18:12.10 | gnarface | TheFlyingCorpse: you're probably fine |
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| 18:32.25 | jonadab | BSD is my backup plan if Devuan falls apart. But I am hoping Devuan will catch on to the point of eventually becoming the main source distro that most apt-based distros are derived from.' |
| 18:32.54 | Sleaker | seems like a long-shot |
| 18:32.55 | jonadab | Surely that's not too much to ask? |
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| 18:55.26 | golinux | parazyd: I think it needs to made clearer that the devs do not regularly check the forum |
| 18:55.50 | parazyd | alright |
| 18:55.53 | parazyd | anything else? |
| 18:57.38 | golinux | Short and to the point. Thanks for getting that together. I'm dealing with more wildlife atm. Just had someone come to set an armadillo trap. |
| 18:58.03 | golinux | It needs to be relocated. |
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| 19:00.03 | furrywolf | gives golinux more wildlife by curling up on her feet |
| 19:02.02 | parazyd | golinux: which (sub)forum should it be posted in? |
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| 19:09.25 | golinux | parazyd: News & Announcements would probably be the best place |
| 19:09.31 | parazyd | ack |
| 19:09.46 | golinux | I'll sticky it once it's there . . . |
| 19:10.32 | parazyd | sounds good |
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| 19:44.51 | parazyd | golinux: i've managed to make myself post :p |
| 19:44.55 | parazyd | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2179#p2179 |
| 19:45.29 | golinux | I just stickied it! |
| 19:45.41 | parazyd | :) |
| 19:46.09 | golinux | Yhanks. |
| 19:46.11 | parazyd | well, sorry that we don't lurk there, but in the 50 irc channels and dozens of mailinglists, i really don't find the time |
| 19:46.18 | golinux | -Y +T |
| 19:46.23 | parazyd | i hope we can come to a good compromise with this |
| 19:47.08 | golinux | This may or may not work because it requires effort to find it. |
| 19:47.45 | parazyd | can you force people to read certain threads before they're allowed to post? |
| 19:48.01 | parazyd | some forums do that i've been told |
| 19:48.19 | golinux | At least c/p a link is easier than typing it all out |
| 19:48.35 | enyc | meeps |
| 19:48.54 | golinux | I'll see if that's possible . . . |
| 19:48.56 | parazyd | the more active members that help there could keep it in their signature perhaps? |
| 19:49.10 | golinux | Now there a thought! |
| 19:49.16 | golinux | +'s |
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| 19:49.53 | golinux | Will do that later and ask other admins to do the same |
| 19:50.15 | golinux | msiism: Haven't seen you in a while |
| 19:50.16 | parazyd | :) |
| 19:56.07 | msiism | golinux: that's probably because i read too much documentation and then forget to stop by here... |
| 19:58.59 | golinux | The outline is looking good.] |
| 19:59.49 | golinux | If there's anything on talk.d.o that might be useful I suggest you grab it soon,. |
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| 20:00.40 | msiism | golinux: glad to hear that. at the moment i'm trying to put together the "Getting Devaun" section and i'm a bit stuck (possibly developing a language barrier). |
| 20:00.52 | msiism | golinux: ok, i think i bookmarked soe things there |
| 20:00.55 | golinux | I had some links in the manual. Not sure if any of them would be useful to you. I took a peek |
| 20:01.31 | golinux | and some broad ideas are interesting but not developed. |
| 20:02.05 | msiism | golinux: are you referring to devuan talk? |
| 20:02.16 | golinux | Board in now RO with an uncertain future. |
| 20:02.23 | golinux | in = is |
| 20:02.28 | golinux | Yes. |
| 20:02.58 | msiism | ok, if there's something there you know of, could you pint me to that? |
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| 20:03.19 | golinux | On the wiki manual page |
| 20:03.35 | golinux | I jotted down some links . . . |
| 20:04.00 | msiism | ok |
| 20:04.31 | msiism | i seem them now |
| 20:04.52 | msiism | ok, let me archive that. |
| 20:05.03 | golinux | Need to go out for a while. Glad I caught you. bbl |
| 20:05.36 | msiism | ok |
| 20:12.24 | msiism | just tried talk.devuan.org in netsurf (his favorite unsuitable web browser) and it looks quite funny |
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| 20:22.37 | golinux | It's ruby and javascript or so I've heard . . . |
| 20:25.01 | msiism | golinux: well it's an empty page in netsurf. i'm saving raw html and pdf variants of the things you linked in the wiki. |
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| 20:38.12 | msiism | golinux: i think i got everything i'll need from "talk" now. |
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| 20:42.45 | Garyz-vuu | Hello all, is this too early to be talking?? |
| 20:43.04 | Lydia_K | too early? |
| 20:43.32 | Garyz-vuu | well im in North America, and I thot Europe might be .... |
| 20:43.38 | parazyd | it's bedtime |
| 20:43.40 | parazyd | lol |
| 20:43.40 | KatolaZ | Garyz-vuu: for some will be too early, for some too late |
| 20:43.47 | parazyd | UGT |
| 20:43.59 | KatolaZ | parazyd: ? |
| 20:44.05 | Lydia_K | it's 4:45pm here. |
| 20:44.06 | KatolaZ | Underground Geek Time? |
| 20:44.06 | parazyd | universal greeting time(zone) |
| 20:44.14 | KatolaZ | ahahah |
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| 20:44.19 | Lydia_K | LOL |
| 20:44.22 | Garyz-vuu | go easy on my - I'm on my 3rd attempt at IRC |
| 20:44.31 | parazyd | KatolaZ: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 20:44.32 | KatolaZ | Garyz-vuu: welcome then |
| 20:45.09 | Garyz-vuu | I did mrgreenjeans vuu-do mate and was having trouble with key bindings |
| 20:45.40 | Garyz-vuu | I shut down my system with an 'alt H' thinking I was showing my hidden files !! |
| 20:45.50 | KatolaZ | eheheheh |
| 20:45.55 | parazyd | O.o |
| 20:46.15 | Garyz-vuu | Only had 5 lost inodes - that's not serious is it |
| 20:47.05 | KatolaZ | it's good you don't have a keybinding for a 'rm -f `find / -type f | shuf | head -1`' |
| 20:47.21 | Garyz-vuu | so, is ascii going to be systemd-shim free |
| 20:47.29 | parazyd | rofl |
| 20:47.32 | KatolaZ | Garyz-vuu: you shouldn't have any lost inode if it was a reboot.... |
| 20:47.37 | Lydia_K | KatolaZ: LOL! |
| 20:47.55 | Garyz-vuu | @KatolaZ - gonna have to try that on a cd load !! |
| 20:48.13 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 20:48.38 | Garyz-vuu | using HexChat - is there a way to copy KatolzZ command |
| 20:49.11 | KatolaZ | Garyz-vuu: please don't |
| 20:49.31 | KatolaZ | unless you want to lose a random file to which your user has acces.. |
| 20:49.35 | KatolaZ | (write access) |
| 20:49.39 | Garyz-vuu | on a CD load it should be okay !!! |
| 20:49.40 | KatolaZ | ;) |
| 20:49.43 | KatolaZ | ahahahahah |
| 20:49.45 | KatolaZ | then go on |
| 20:49.52 | KatolaZ | but don't blame me :D |
| 20:50.02 | KatolaZ | (if you use it somewhere else, I mean ;P) |
| 20:50.08 | Garyz-vuu | ahhh, the no warranty clause |
| 20:50.33 | KatolaZ | namely |
| 20:50.40 | KatolaZ | it's implied |
| 20:50.50 | KatolaZ | it's written in microfonts |
| 20:50.56 | KatolaZ | under the first "`" |
| 20:50.58 | KatolaZ | :P |
| 20:51.11 | KatolaZ | if you had a better IRC client you would have seen it |
| 20:51.29 | Garyz-vuu | dang |
| 20:51.53 | Garyz-vuu | whats better -- on Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 |
| 20:52.20 | KatolaZ | (I was kidding Garyz-vuu :)) |
| 20:52.24 | KatolaZ | use whatever you like |
| 20:52.58 | Garyz-vuu | well , I can't seem to "copy" text with hexchat - from the dialogue window |
| 20:53.13 | Garyz-vuu | I can Higlite it --- |
| 20:53.44 | parazyd | ctrl-C ? |
| 20:54.01 | Garyz-vuu | BTW KatolaZ - was that an el or a one on the end?? |
| 20:54.52 | Garyz-vuu | got so used to the mouse - I forgot the keyboard!!! |
| 20:55.13 | Garyz-vuu | ctrl-C is good |
| 20:56.02 | Garyz-vuu | Does Mr. GreenJeans visit here - don't see that moniker in the list |
| 20:56.09 | parazyd | sometimes he's here |
| 20:56.36 | KatolaZ | it's a ONE |
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| 20:56.45 | parazyd | !!!!!1111 |
| 20:56.45 | infobot | 1 |
| 20:57.10 | KatolaZ | Garyz-vuu: if you highlight a piece of text under X11 you should be able to paste it using the middle-button |
| 20:57.24 | msiism | Garyz-vuu: you would also post your problem to the dev1galaxy forum. he'll surely read that. |
| 20:57.27 | KatolaZ | (it should go in the primary selection by default) |
| 20:57.35 | msiism | msiism: would = could. |
| 20:58.56 | Garyz-vuu | speaking of dev1galaxy - is that irc (d1g-users) looked at much ?? |
| 20:59.25 | Garyz-vuu | it was mentioned that the galaxy had their own irc channel |
| 21:00.34 | msiism | Garyz-vuu: i don't know. there's 5 people in there at the moment. |
| 21:01.07 | Garyz-vuu | I left there just before I came here |
| 21:01.41 | Garyz-vuu | that was about 20 minutes ago |
| 21:02.08 | Garyz-vuu | maybe my entrance was a little 'fishy'?? |
| 21:02.53 | Garyz-vuu | payrazyd -- any luck on the BB Black testing/iso? |
| 21:03.37 | Garyz-vuu | I've been following it on the DNG list |
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| 21:04.17 | Garyz-vuu | I even attempted to copy/fork? it under olzeke I do believe |
| 21:05.19 | parazyd | Garyz-vuu: i received some patches for the build script. going to try a build sometime this week |
| 21:05.38 | aitor | Does anyone know where I can find an installer ISO for Ascii, if there even is one? - Guest63179 |
| 21:05.46 | parazyd | aitor: nope |
| 21:05.59 | aitor | it's possible to build one |
| 21:06.00 | parazyd | it's only bootstrappable for now |
| 21:06.10 | parazyd | i am not sure |
| 21:06.16 | parazyd | but you can build a livecd with live-sdk |
| 21:06.42 | Garyz-vuu | I was wondering the same thing - oh, build it - that'll be a new experience |
| 21:06.44 | parazyd | though we are planning some changes before we release a ascii preview |
| 21:07.01 | parazyd | so the ascii you build now won't really be the ascii that will be coming out |
| 21:07.54 | aitor | parazyd: you were lurking :) |
| 21:07.55 | msiism | aitor: well you can install ascii using the expert install in the jesie installer if i remember right. |
| 21:08.06 | Garyz-vuu | ah - parazyd - in the arm(hf) sdk - where does the armhf-eabi type files go in relation to the other |
| 21:08.10 | msiism | i mean, if you're using the netinst |
| 21:08.18 | Garyz-vuu | sdk files |
| 21:08.33 | Garyz-vuu | oops enter is not the way to get a newline !! |
| 21:08.35 | parazyd | Garyz-vuu: what do you mean? i don't understand the question |
| 21:09.28 | aitor | i'm a newbie in devuan |
| 21:09.47 | Garyz-vuu | need to get the devuan sdk, the arm sdk and then the armhf -eabi files (maybe the gcc compiler) |
| 21:10.03 | parazyd | oh you mean the toolchains |
| 21:10.05 | Garyz-vuu | I had trouble trying to figure out which folders they went it |
| 21:10.15 | parazyd | they will be automagically setup if you run init.sh in there |
| 21:10.22 | Garyz-vuu | toolchains |
| 21:11.13 | Garyz-vuu | but see - the config file has to be modified to specify the toolchain before you do the init.sh |
| 21:11.23 | parazyd | Garyz-vuu: if you plan to work on the beaglebone, use the 'next' branch |
| 21:11.30 | Garyz-vuu | the quick guide section threw me |
| 21:12.41 | Garyz-vuu | okay - Ill look for the 'next' branch |
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| 21:13.07 | parazyd | there is also a patch pending here |
| 21:13.09 | parazyd | https://git.devuan.org/sdk/arm-sdk/merge_requests/4 |
| 21:13.56 | parazyd | you will need it, along with this one for libdevuansdk: https://git.devuan.org/sdk/libdevuansdk/issues/2 |
| 21:14.17 | parazyd | if you're confused, wait until thursday/friday when i merge them |
| 21:14.46 | Garyz-vuu | okay - thanks - I'll wait - since git processes are still new to me |
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| 21:15.07 | Garyz-vuu | I've read this stuff for 20 years, but never did it |
| 21:15.22 | parazyd | :) |
| 21:16.16 | Garyz-vuu | being retired (?) gives me more time - especially when it is 85 farenheit out side |
| 21:16.38 | parazyd | haha yeah, summer is coming |
| 21:17.27 | Garyz-vuu | uhh, 29.4 C for some folks --You? |
| 21:17.34 | aitor | parazyd: it was bedtime for you at 10.43, and you are still awake |
| 21:18.00 | aitor | this is not serious |
| 21:18.12 | Lydia_K | speaking of tired, it's 5:20 and I need some coffee or something -.- |
| 21:18.18 | Garyz-vuu | oh, some of you are +0100, me -I'm -0400 |
| 21:18.24 | parazyd | aitor: "Sometimes I think that top three insomnia reasons within the community are Club Mate, cuddle deficiency |
| 21:18.27 | parazyd | and someone being wrong on irc." |
| 21:18.59 | parazyd | :D |
| 21:18.59 | Garyz-vuu | Llydia_K - i hope that is 1720 and not 0520 |
| 21:19.12 | aitor | i'm so tired... |
| 21:19.55 | aitor | Zzzz... |
| 21:20.13 | Garyz-vuu | I thought irc was just opinions !! |
| 21:20.24 | Garyz-vuu | trolling |
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| 21:21.06 | Lydia_K | yes indeed, 17:20 |
| 21:21.19 | Lydia_K | and I still have so much to do before I go home.. |
| 21:21.19 | Garyz-vuu | ah, my timezone |
| 21:22.00 | Lydia_K | I couldn't sleep last night, I was awake at like 3:00am and up at 6:00am |
| 21:22.21 | Garyz-vuu | well maybe we ought to leave so these folks can get some sleep , and you can get some work done |
| 21:22.56 | Lydia_K | LOL, I never leave. |
| 21:23.06 | Garyz-vuu | I did that about a week ago - but it wasn't --how did parazyd put it... |
| 21:25.53 | Lydia_K | ? |
| 21:26.34 | Garyz-vuu | up early but not for Club Mate, cuddle deficiency or someone wrong on irc |
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| 21:27.49 | Garyz-vuu | Lydia_K - what part of Devuan are you ? a maintainer? - Me- just a new found user |
| 21:28.47 | Lydia_K | I've been mostly helping out by maintaining packages and ranting about things. |
| 21:29.12 | _moep_ | things aka systemd ;)? |
| 21:29.18 | Lydia_K | Generally :) |
| 21:29.21 | Lydia_K | but sometimes other things. |
| 21:29.48 | Lydia_K | I've not had a good one in a while but in the past I've had people tell me that they would come to #debianfork just for my rants XD |
| 21:30.03 | Lydia_K | I've been super busy as of late though, so not much time for IRC, or much of anything else. |
| 21:30.22 | Garyz-vuu | I've been looking for a simple package to look into and exercise my knowledge of C (cough, cough) but |
| 21:30.25 | Lydia_K | I have sooo much code to finish. |
| 21:30.58 | Garyz-vuu | every thing on the devuan site are big stuff - you know infrastructure type stuff |
| 21:31.20 | parazyd | Garyz-vuu: git.suckless.org has some nice projects to learn/excercise |
| 21:31.45 | Garyz-vuu | oh, that site is legit?? |
| 21:31.59 | parazyd | sure |
| 21:32.14 | Garyz-vuu | well, I have to check it out later |
| 21:32.36 | Lydia_K | Ironically I'm not really involved in the infrastructure side of things despite the fact that my actual job is as an infrastructure engineer. |
| 21:33.26 | Garyz-vuu | engineers can code ?? I thought only 'programmers' do that :D |
| 21:33.44 | Lydia_K | LOL |
| 21:33.48 | Lydia_K | sysadmins do everything. |
| 21:33.50 | parazyd | wants a programmer/sysadmin D&D game |
| 21:34.10 | parazyd | *a wild systemd approaches* |
| 21:34.28 | Lydia_K | write code, build systems, maintain OS's, produce documentation, teach classes, sysadmins do everything better ;) |
| 21:34.41 | Lydia_K | parazyd: LOL! That actually sounds pretty cool. |
| 21:35.07 | Lydia_K | sips her Captain's Tea. |
| 21:35.13 | aitor | dmenu is there |
| 21:35.25 | parazyd | rolls 2d6 |
| 21:35.27 | parazyd | 4 |
| 21:35.36 | parazyd | *a systemd machine crashes* |
| 21:35.37 | Garyz-vuu | *look in ditty-bag for the 'delete key'* |
| 21:36.11 | aitor | in http://git.suckless.org/, i mean |
| 21:36.45 | Garyz-vuu | so dmenu might be a good exercise, ?? |
| 21:37.25 | aitor | steve litt likes dmenu |
| 21:37.26 | parazyd | Garyz-vuu: depends on what you're excercising |
| 21:37.41 | parazyd | jumping in Xorg code at the beginning might make you hate C |
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| 21:38.01 | Lydia_K | *jumping in Xorg code at the beginning might make you hate everything |
| 21:38.04 | Lydia_K | fixed it for you. |
| 21:38.23 | Garyz-vuu | fixed it ? |
| 21:38.30 | Garyz-vuu | what dmenu? |
| 21:38.34 | parazyd | Garyz-vuu: take a look at how they implemented coreutils for a start: http://git.suckless.org/sbase/ |
| 21:39.22 | parazyd | or a login manager: http://git.suckless.org/utmp/ |
| 21:39.25 | Garyz-vuu | say - now that you mentioned Steve Litt - is devuan going to do vdev? |
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| 21:40.08 | aitor_ | mmmh |
| 21:40.46 | Garyz-vuu | is 'vdev' a bad word? |
| 21:40.52 | aitor_ | is there any relatioship between vdev and Steve Litt? |
| 21:41.21 | parazyd | this is also a cool c project: https://github.com/zerotier/toss |
| 21:41.26 | aitor_ | relationship :) |
| 21:42.05 | Garyz-vuu | well, maybe in my confused mind -- SL was an init fan of some sort, and a XXdev seemed to be needed for part of any init scheme |
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| 21:44.18 | Garyz-vuu | I can hardly keep loginmgr/windowmgr/desktopmgr/mate/X11 seperate anymore |
| 21:45.56 | aitor_ | 23:45 |
| 21:46.02 | aitor_ | brb:) |
| 21:46.15 | gnu_srs1 | Garyz-vuu: Seem like vdev needs some more love. But it is definitely coming :) |
| 21:47.13 | aitor_ | please, time to bed, lol !! |
| 21:47.27 | Garyz-vuu | parazyd - removing systemd networking doesn't .....{toss] |
| 21:48.09 | parazyd | :) |
| 21:48.13 | Garyz-vuu | so aitor - your time would indicate UTC +0200 ??? (am I catching on) |
| 21:49.19 | Garyz-vuu | parazyd - you are starting to sound like an old-timer playing games with a young-un |
| 21:49.31 | aitor_ | you are cold, cruel, and calculating |
| 21:49.59 | Garyz-vuu | aitor_ --- speak sweet nothings to me |
| 21:52.27 | Lydia_K | Do I stay here and try to work on this code till 6:51? or do I catch the 6:21 home and abandon all hope of getting anything else done? |
| 21:52.36 | aitor_ | i'm going to gentoo, bye |
| 21:53.20 | Garyz-vuu | Think I'll leave before I wear out my welcome - parazyd has given my some homework to follow up on. |
| 21:53.28 | Lydia_K | Later Garyz-vuu |
| 21:53.29 | parazyd | take care :) |
| 21:53.34 | fsmithred | Lydia_K, stay wherever the a/c is best |
| 21:54.02 | Garyz-vuu | Lydia_k -- did you notice the 'Home' in homework?? |
| 21:54.28 | Lydia_K | It is really warm out today. |
| 21:54.34 | Garyz-vuu | if there is a 6:51 catch it - that's only 30 minutes - a good, what 100 loc?? |
| 21:54.56 | Lydia_K | 1.5 hour train ride home. |
| 21:55.03 | Lydia_K | there's also a 6.21 |
| 21:55.07 | Garyz-vuu | yuck |
| 21:55.07 | Lydia_K | *6:21 |
| 21:55.25 | Garyz-vuu | bye |
| 21:55.30 | Lydia_K | later! |
| 22:11.18 | golinux | Dang, I keep missing Garyz-vuu. I've seen his tracks on d1g-users but he doesn't stay long enough . . . |
| 22:11.43 | golinux | If he comes back encourage him to stay logged on. |
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| 22:42.10 | DPA | Since programs using sd_journal_* for logging don't log anything without systemd, I made a library which implements those functions using syslog: https://git.devuan.org/DPA/sd_journal_shim |
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| 22:59.41 | matlock | DPA cool, thanks |
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| 23:02.15 | davidl | When Im installing btrfs-progs and extlinux I get "Warning: /sbin/fsck.btrfs doesn't exist, can't install to initramfs, ignoring." but "which fsck.btrfs" says it exists in /bin/fsck.btrfs instead of sbin. |
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| 23:55.27 | fsmithred | davidl, I have /bin/fsck.btrfs, but I don't get that warning on installing extlinux |
| 23:57.43 | davidl | fsmithred: I wrote a symlink which fixed it. |
| 23:58.14 | davidl | I was doing it after debootstrap and before reboot. |
| 23:58.34 | davidl | I have worked on a large script for installing with debootstrap. |
| 23:58.39 | fsmithred | oh, I'm doing it on a finished installation |
| 23:59.15 | davidl | debootstrapping is going a lot better now I must say |
| 23:59.20 | fsmithred | cool |
| 23:59.32 | fsmithred | I'd like to see it when you're done |