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16:09.01timelesshas anyone tried to do an inplace replacement of their os / filesystem?
16:09.13timelessi'm considering trying to replace an lvm w/ zfs
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16:09.55timelessso far i've used a tempfs + debootstrap to shred my rootfs, but the idea of doing this is much more interesting / worrying
16:10.17timeless(the computer is a remote server)
16:13.10unixmantimeless, you would need to backup anything you have on the LVM, recreate the partitions with ZFS, restore. That is the only way I know to swap the file system between two completely different file systems.
16:13.31timelessthe system is currently raid1
16:13.41timelessw/ two devices backing the filesystem
16:13.49timelessi'm half contemplating breaking the raid1 mirror
16:14.07timelessand formatting the broken volume as zfs
16:14.21timelessthen copying the data from the degraded raid volume
16:15.15timelessactually, sorry, this system is apparently only md software raid, there isn't lvm (lv/pv)
16:15.47timelessi'm mostly worried about how to ensure that the system will safely reboot...
16:16.42unixmanWell, letting ZFS handle the disks with a zpool would be preferable IME. Frankly, though, really do make sure you have a backup of that data before proceeding. If it goes pear shaped, then you have covered your butt. ;)
16:17.30unixmanDoes your remote server have console available via RMM?
16:19.00unixmantimeless, caveat, I have never done what you are trying. I am just thinking through the steps I would consider to do it myself. However, I would definitely *not* try it without some way to get a remote console.
16:19.46timelessis contemplating making a vm to experiment with this
16:20.08unixmanThat reads like an excellent plan to me. :)
16:20.16timelessyou're right, i should investigate that. i'm assuming it doesn't, but...
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16:37.34timelessso, no, it doesn't appear that this host offers rmm
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16:53.23timelessunixman: actually, i have two sets of drives in this system...
16:53.40timelessone is the current instance (raid mirror), the other is the previous incarnation of this system (broken raid mirror)
16:54.43timelessI bet I could try to installa zfs system into the broken raid mirror, try to configure the computer to boot that instance w/ a fallback to the current system -- but i have no idea how to get grub to do that -- is there a grub mode which says "the first time i boot, i should use mode X, but the second time I boot, I should use mode Y"?
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17:00.04nailykhow to report a problem with slim (session manager)? Should it be done into devuan bug tracker or into slim one?
17:00.12nailyk(devuan 8)
17:00.50timelessas a general rule, for me personally, if i have the time/energy to reproduce using an upstream, i'd reproduce w/ upstream and then report directly
17:01.16timeless... otherwise, if i have confidence that a downstream hasn't made interesting/major/relevant changes, then i'd report it to upstream
17:01.28timeless... otherwise, i'd report it to the downstream (devuan in this case)
17:01.33timelessisn't sure about official policy
17:05.22timeless(for my question, it looks like i'd want to use grub.conf: `default saved` + `fallback 1 2` + `savedefault fallback` / grub-set-default)
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23:12.36gnu_srsHave you seen this? Lennart has performance problems and they are not easily fixed (a wontfix bug:): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469670
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