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02:52.12Criggiebugger - I'm installing devuan in a xenserver VM and the console has lost connection to the keyboard.   Mouse still works though
03:06.15gnarfaceweird
03:06.25gnarfaceany idea what caused it?
03:06.50gnarfacedid it lose it during boot up?  or just randomly in the middle of the install?
03:13.21CriggieDon't know - it didn;t accept a root password, was the first chance to type in the installer
03:13.30CriggieBut I managed to pick Graphical Install at grub
03:13.35Criggieso keyboard was working then
03:13.42CriggieWill play a bit more
03:13.55gnarfaceoh
03:13.59gnarfacei suspect user error
03:14.07CriggieHAH thanks
03:14.08Criggie:)
03:14.33gnarfaceno i mean, there's a non-zero chance the keyboard was working but the root password field wasn't echoing the characters at you (not even as dots or *)
03:14.34CriggieI suspect layers of RDP getting confused.
03:14.52gnarfaceit's an old common problem to mistake this to think the keyboard stopped working
03:14.57gnarfacecommon type of user error
03:15.00gnarfaceold linux meme
03:15.04Criggietwo different keyboard mashes into each password field and it accepted
03:15.18gnarfaceoh, hmm.  well that doesn't sound right
03:15.19Criggieso the only way both fields matched were if they were empty.
03:15.22gnarfaceit could be broken too
03:16.12gnarfacejust be double-checking that it's actually wrong not just "silent"
03:16.56gnarfacebut "i got to the root password entry and the keyboard didn't even work!" is like an old old debian meme
03:23.49Criggieok will know more when it finishes installing
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08:20.45divansantanaSo looking for equivelent of `systemctl enable serial-getty@ttyS0.service`
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08:21.01divansantanathis is to enable the kvm console for a system :)
08:21.48KatolaZdivansantana: are we speaking of devuan?
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08:22.12divansantanayes. I switched most of my systems recently away from systemd systems to devuan stable
08:22.17KatolaZdivansantana: if "yes", then have a look at /etc/inittab
08:22.27divansantanaKatolaZ: ta
08:22.30KatolaZthere is a comment towards the end
08:22.42KatolaZsaying "# Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal)
08:23.02KatolaZjust uncomment the relevant line
08:23.09KatolaZand reboot
08:24.48divansantanaKatolaZ:So simple. Ta. Should have thought of that.
08:24.54divansantanaWorks btw.
08:25.40lime_would people appreciate devuan hosted to lbry.io?
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08:51.14buZzlime_: host what?
08:51.48lime_buZz: the ISOs
08:51.57buZzah, why?
08:52.02buZzis it faster?
08:52.18lime_more resilient
08:52.30lime_p2p
08:52.31Gargravarrguh, for crying out loud
08:52.35GargravarrUEFI sucks
08:52.50buZzlime_: no clue, i dont think the current hosting has issues with resiliance
08:53.02buZzand there are torrents already, arent there?
08:53.20Gargravarranyone know enough about UEFI to help me get this Dell workstation to boot Devuan?
08:53.34Gargravarror am i better off nuking it and reinstalling with BIOS?
08:53.52buZzi usually just go for the latter
08:54.32lime_bios boot is slower but more reliable
08:55.43buZzjust replace bios with coreboot already ;)
08:56.16lime_get out that spi programmer
08:56.52buZz:)
08:57.32gnarfaceGargravarr:  like this? https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln297060/xps-13-9343--how-to-install-ubuntu-developer-edition-1404-on-a-dell-pc-configured-for-the-unified-extensible-firmware-interface--uefi--bios?lang=en
08:57.53gnarfacesomething like that anyway
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08:58.23gnarfacebasically seems like the trick is to just disable legacy option roms
08:58.25lime_yes =]
08:58.29gnarfacethen load the key
09:00.21lime_dells, do they have non standard uefi?
09:02.45gnarfacei wouldn't be surprised but i don't actually know
09:04.45gnarfacetheir pre-uefi stuff is all kinds of whack, so i don't know if that would be any better either
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16:12.40atsukohi
16:12.47atsukois devuan unstable usable?
16:13.38atsukoand if so, in order to use it, do I have to install jessie first and then change the repos?
16:18.14djphsure, far as I understand it's the same as "Debian Unstable" (as in, stable-ish, but we haven't decided on final versions of all software yet)
16:18.26djphand yes, looks like it's "install Jessie, change the repos"
16:22.06atsukodjph: thanks
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