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| 00:35.33 | Th3Z0h4n | hey all, my grub can't load my second partition, sounds familiar? |
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| 00:41.48 | AlexLikeRock | hi Th3Z0h4n |
| 00:42.09 | AlexLikeRock | tthe second are NTFS (window$)??? |
| 00:42.10 | Th3Z0h4n | hey there |
| 00:42.15 | AlexLikeRock | or GNU-Linux ? |
| 00:42.30 | Th3Z0h4n | both ext4, 1devuan, 2gentoo |
| 00:42.44 | AlexLikeRock | cool |
| 00:42.56 | AlexLikeRock | yes, its normal |
| 00:43.04 | AlexLikeRock | open terminal , |
| 00:43.12 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.12 | Th3Z0h4n | i'm running pc grub |
| 00:43.25 | AlexLikeRock | $ su |
| 00:43.29 | AlexLikeRock | (pass root ) |
| 00:43.38 | Xenguy | su - |
| 00:43.38 | AlexLikeRock | # update-grub |
| 00:43.44 | Th3Z0h4n | I know the commands, what do you need? |
| 00:43.54 | Th3Z0h4n | aha, sec |
| 00:44.10 | AlexLikeRock | they will search again for more OS |
| 00:45.14 | Th3Z0h4n | entries in /boot/grub/grub.cfg are in place and correct, have run mkconfig already |
| 00:45.58 | AlexLikeRock | the command " update-grub" they detect more OS ??? |
| 00:46.15 | Xenguy | was wondering too... |
| 00:46.32 | AlexLikeRock | why you are use PC-GRUB (aka grub 1 ) ??? |
| 00:46.42 | AlexLikeRock | instace GRUB2 |
| 00:47.13 | Th3Z0h4n | comes with the installer :) |
| 00:47.48 | AlexLikeRock | with devuan ? |
| 00:47.52 | AlexLikeRock | or witch one ? |
| 00:48.14 | Th3Z0h4n | yap, that's what i've got out of the installation |
| 00:48.24 | AlexLikeRock | :-/ |
| 00:48.49 | AlexLikeRock | update-grub finish ??? |
| 00:49.01 | Th3Z0h4n | it didn't found any win partitions to install grub2 probably |
| 00:49.29 | AlexLikeRock | yes, try grub2 |
| 00:49.40 | AlexLikeRock | grub1 its obsolet |
| 00:50.07 | Th3Z0h4n | yah, dont think that's the problem though, entries in grub.cfg are in place and correct already, during boot it can't find the kernels of sda2 |
| 00:50.56 | Th3Z0h4n | so apt-get install grub2 && update-grub? |
| 00:51.22 | fugitive | there is also os-prober |
| 00:51.55 | AlexLikeRock | yes Th3Z0h4n |
| 00:52.18 | AlexLikeRock | os-prober , its for detect Window$ |
| 00:54.29 | Th3Z0h4n | kk, let's c. Brb |
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| 00:58.40 | Th3Z0h4n | nope, i knew it :| |
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| 02:58.55 | matlock | I would like feedback on my new "Awesome" GitHub page dedicated to UNIX, prominently features Devuan. |
| 02:59.00 | matlock | https://github.com/sirredbeard/Awesome-UNIX |
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| 04:06.05 | AlexLikeRock | what firefox are at CERES ? |
| 04:06.12 | AlexLikeRock | what version ? |
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| 04:25.52 | matlock | any version you want |
| 04:27.05 | AlexLikeRock | i try FIREFOX v57 |
| 04:27.12 | AlexLikeRock | its not avalible |
| 04:27.41 | AlexLikeRock | just appear FIREFOS-SLOW-ESR v 52 |
| 04:28.06 | AlexLikeRock | we need Firefox v57 (QUANTUM version ) (multicore) |
| 04:28.49 | AlexLikeRock | devour my memory |
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| 04:51.31 | justinsm | I have Firefox 57 from main/ceres on my test laptop. Perhaps you need to use pkgmaster.devuan.org for amprolla3 feed? |
| 04:57.29 | AlexLikeRock | justinsm, cool |
| 04:57.39 | AlexLikeRock | give to me full line |
| 04:57.41 | AlexLikeRock | source |
| 05:05.39 | Demosthenex | so, bareos 16 (backup product). 14 is in the apt sources. 16 is available elsewhere. compile it locally, or try a repository that isn't devuan? i was reading there may be drawbacks there, and warnings not to add debian repos. |
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| 11:45.11 | useruser | Hello, is there a way to run beowulf? thank you |
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| 12:34.05 | jonadab | Is beowulf a specific piece of software? I thought it was a cluster design paradigm. |
| 12:34.47 | fsmithred | beowulf is Devuan-3.0 (based on Debian Buster) but it does not exist yet. |
| 12:34.55 | jonadab | Oh. |
| 12:35.11 | fsmithred | help us get ascii up on its feet and beowulf can then get some attention |
| 12:36.45 | jonadab | Right, I hadn't even thought about the release _after_ ascii yet; I'm still comfortable on jessie. |
| 12:37.11 | jonadab | But perhaps I'm a tad bit on the conservative side, in terms of such things. |
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| 12:43.09 | fsmithred | jonadab, I still have a couple of wheezy boxes that I have no desire to mess with, because they work and other people are using/depending on them. |
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| 12:45.03 | useruser | thank you fsmithred :) |
| 12:46.02 | jonadab | fsmithred: Actually, I can beat that: I still have one squeeze system. |
| 12:46.17 | jonadab | But I'm predominantly on jessie at this point. |
| 12:46.30 | jonadab | Haven't played with ascii yet, though. |
| 12:48.04 | jonadab | Actually, wait. I still have a router running etch, because when I went to upgrade it I discovered that the kernel in the next release didn't support its network card, and I am so lazy that I still haven't bothered to replace its hardware. But that is an anomoly. |
| 12:48.49 | jonadab | Also, that really is just a router. It runs iptables and little else. |
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| 12:51.36 | fsmithred | ascii works well. |
| 12:52.54 | jonadab | Yeah, I should probably try it out at some point. |
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| 15:16.35 | sokan | fsmithred, is there any sort of date for ascii becoming the new stable update? |
| 15:18.00 | fsmithred | no hard date, but all the devs are expecting to get something out before the end of the year. |
| 15:18.21 | fsmithred | something=installer isos, live isos and embedded images. |
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| 15:20.03 | fsmithred | heads back to the kitchen |
| 15:24.46 | sokan | excellent news! |
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| 15:47.21 | sickness | hi all |
| 15:51.58 | enyc | meows |
| 15:52.13 | furrywolf | pets enyc |
| 15:52.19 | enyc | sokan: there are various issues/niggles at present... |
| 15:54.06 | enyc | sokan: you could setup test machine and help with some of the bugs//niggles ?? |
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| 15:55.52 | sokan | I still have some tweaking to do to my machine, but when it's ready I'll install me a VM :) |
| 15:56.16 | sokan | unless I upgrade my PC sooner so I'll install devuan alongside current OS |
| 15:57.24 | enyc | sokan: extra developers and extra testers / good-bug-reporters would be helpful |
| 15:59.04 | sokan | I'm planning on helping asap :) |
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| 16:03.42 | sickness | little question |
| 16:03.54 | sickness | anyone managed to install fs-uae-launcher ? |
| 16:06.25 | sokan | enyc, I actually have 3 packages in mind that I'd like to add and maintain (provided i get 'em to work etc). |
| 16:06.55 | enyc | sokan: as in, not in debian ata ll? or need patching for systemdness ??? |
| 16:07.25 | sokan | Last time I checked they weren't included at all. |
| 16:07.38 | sokan | Which was ~ 2-3 weeks ago |
| 16:07.55 | sokan | And they're systemd oriented now I think anyway. |
| 16:07.56 | enyc | saptech: getting a package into debian needs assistance of a DD in most cases ... |
| 16:08.05 | enyc | error wrong name |
| 16:08.08 | enyc | sokan: ^^ |
| 16:08.08 | sokan | hehe |
| 16:08.24 | sokan | Will certainly ask here a lot before I do anything of the sort |
| 16:08.25 | enyc | sokan: does upstream have any kind of Copyright file / debian packaging in there at all ??????????? |
| 16:08.57 | sokan | Can't be speaking very certainly of anything atm, since I'm not on devuan atm. |
| 16:08.58 | enyc | sokan: mostly, debian need to be convinced that everything in there is truly friee software. exact authors doesn't matter if the project doesn' require that either |
| 16:15.58 | fsmithred | might be possible to get a package into devuan even if it's not in debian |
| 16:16.21 | fsmithred | not "might be" possible. *Is* possible. |
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| 16:38.12 | sokan | That's good news. |
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| 17:07.56 | onekk | Hi to all, I've just installed devuan Ascci (or to better say Miyolinux) cand everything seems to go well, I've some minor problems with shutdown and halt not working somethimes. |
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| 17:08.25 | onekk | somethimes => sometimes |
| 17:10.23 | onekk | I've installed Texlive 2017 with the instructions gave on TexLive site, but having problems on PATH variable settings, resolved setting it for the user in .bashrc, but I'm wondering if there is a more polite manner to do that. |
| 17:11.01 | onekk | I've goggled around and read the "debian way "on the debian site but no luck. |
| 17:11.23 | fsmithred | path for all users is set in /etc/profile |
| 17:12.04 | fsmithred | but setting it in user's .profile will work. Putting it in .bashrc will work if you're in bash. |
| 17:13.02 | onekk | fsmithred, Yes, but something is not working well, a note my installation is "Devuan Ascii" based. |
| 17:13.24 | fsmithred | that shouldn't matter |
| 17:13.38 | fsmithred | did you log out and log in again? |
| 17:13.50 | fsmithred | or 'source .bashrc' |
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| 17:15.19 | onekk | fsmithred, I have added the PATH='$PATH:/usr/local/texlive/2017/bin/x86_64-linux' and export PATH both in /etc/profile and in the user .bashrc Putting them in /etc/profile.d/texlive.sh didn't work and I've rebooted each time I've done a modification |
| 17:16.27 | fsmithred | do you have more than one user? |
| 17:16.50 | fsmithred | if not, then leave /etc/profile alone and just put it in user file |
| 17:17.06 | fsmithred | is the script executable? |
| 17:18.03 | fsmithred | nm, you don't need that script with the edit in profile or .bashrc |
| 17:19.11 | fsmithred | can you run whatever it is that you need to run in texlive by giving the full path to the executable? |
| 17:19.28 | onekk | fsmithred, for now it is working, with the line in /etc/profile and in users .bashrc, the problem is only cosmetics for now, i fear on overwriting something when upgrading some packages. BTW I'm using a "local backported" version of TexWorks. It is working flawlessy now. |
| 17:19.47 | fsmithred | cool |
| 17:20.01 | fsmithred | user's .bashrc will not get overwritten on any upgrade |
| 17:20.17 | onekk | But /etc/profile will be? |
| 17:20.33 | fsmithred | if /etc/profile is going to be replaced, you will be asked |
| 17:20.55 | fsmithred | default is to leave the edited version in place and the new one will be left in /etc/profile.new |
| 17:21.16 | fsmithred | and you can examine the differences before you choose |
| 17:23.06 | onekk | Many thanks, I rember the way, I was used to have debian but then switched to Linux Mint, now back in Devuan with Openbox. Aanother little question, is ascii upgraded frequently, I issued apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but nothing is pulled in in the last days? |
| 17:23.59 | fsmithred | ascii pulls from stretch, so it's pretty stable. |
| 17:25.01 | fsmithred | and miyolinux isos get updated pretty frequently, so you probably started with up-to-date packages. |
| 17:26.26 | onekk | Thanks, for now I'm very happy of Devuan, I've pulled in the Mono version (from the mono site) (Debian stretch) and it is working well, I've used the Ascci version onf monodevelop and no problems for now. Where I can find an Ascii ISO from Devuan? |
| 17:27.16 | fsmithred | they will be found at files.devuan.org a few minutes after they are created |
| 17:27.56 | fsmithred | we're shooting for some time in the next few weeks. |
| 17:28.20 | onekk | fsmithred, just opened in browser the files.devuan.org but no trace of Ascci. |
| 17:29.16 | onekk | Sorry for the mistyping. |
| 17:30.47 | KatolaZ | onekk: ascii has not been released yet |
| 17:30.54 | KatolaZ | so there are no official ascii images |
| 17:33.38 | onekk | KatolaZ, Thanks, but fsmithred told me to see here. But eventually as in D... if one wants to try out Devuan Ascii and didn't wanto to use some pre-coocked distribution, there is a manner to do so? |
| 17:35.44 | KatolaZ | you can upgrade from jessie |
| 17:35.48 | KatolaZ | from devuan jessie |
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| 17:37.08 | onekk | KatolaZ, Many thanks. |
| 17:40.52 | fsmithred | onekk, "will be found...after they are created" |
| 17:40.58 | fsmithred | future tense |
| 17:41.04 | fsmithred | sorry for any confusion. |
| 17:41.54 | onekk | Thanks, one more things, how to get lsb -a work in Devuan, I've tried to install apt-get install lsb but found a dependency problem. |
| 17:42.34 | fsmithred | lsb_release? |
| 17:42.59 | onekk | no lsb-desktop is not found |
| 17:43.20 | onekk | lsb : Depends: lsb-desktop (>= 4.1+devuan2) but it is not going to be installed |
| 17:43.27 | gnarface | it's lsb-release |
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| 17:44.35 | onekk | lsb-release is installed but as user lsb -a gave me a commend not found, i will try with root account |
| 17:44.39 | fsmithred | try 'aptitude -s install lsb-desktop' and see if you can figure out what the conflict is. |
| 17:45.02 | fsmithred | lsb_release -a |
| 17:45.18 | fsmithred | I get output (what I added to /etc/lsb-release) |
| 17:46.36 | onekk | ok with lsb_release -a it works, ti tells Devuan - Devuan2.0 and so on. Thanks |
| 17:47.27 | onekk | lsb-desktop : Depends: libpng12-0 but it is not installable |
| 17:47.27 | onekk | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.14 | fsmithred | oh, that's similar to the problem with slim. |
| 17:48.33 | fsmithred | in ascii, it should require libpng16 |
| 17:49.09 | onekk | maybe I've to till a bug report, how? |
| 17:49.19 | onekk | till => fill |
| 17:49.27 | fsmithred | bugs.devuan.org |
| 17:50.05 | fsmithred | you can send email |
| 17:51.22 | onekk | If i try with reportbug will work as well? |
| 17:51.23 | fsmithred | check to see if there is already a report. If you want to add to it, send mail to XX@bugs.devuan.org (XX=bug number) and if it's new, send to submit@bugs.devuan.org |
| 17:51.30 | fsmithred | not sure |
| 17:51.56 | fsmithred | KatolaZ, is reportbug working in ascii? I haven't tried it. |
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| 17:52.55 | fsmithred | gotta go. bbl. |
| 17:53.29 | onekk | fsmithred, goodbye |
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| 18:14.03 | onekk | reportbug seem to work, but I'havent set a email "provider" so run reportbug and used the report generated to send by webamail the bug report. |
| 18:15.51 | minnesotags | Hey Devuan powers that be. My build server (Build 004) is online for a long time but not connecting to the Jenkins. You want to use it or what? |
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| 18:28.33 | onekk | bye to all |
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