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| 00:27.00 | tpcoder | \o |
| 00:27.41 | tpcoder | does anyone know how to bypass the distribution name check when installing nodejs? |
| 00:28.09 | tpcoder | right now i am getting this error -> ## Your distribution, identified as "ascii", is not currently supported, please contact NodeSource at https://github.com/nodesource/distributions/issues if you think this is incorrect or would like your distribution to be considered for support |
| 00:28.59 | tpcoder | debian jessie and debian stretch is officially supported |
| 00:35.18 | specing | what if nodejs expects systemdumb? |
| 00:38.10 | djph | that'd be unfortunate. Suppose "switch languages" |
| 00:44.39 | tpcoder | it doesn't depend on systemd |
| 00:45.25 | tpcoder | even if it did i would not consider "switching languages" |
| 00:45.55 | msiism | specing: i remeber blinkdog telling me sth about debian never getting packaging nodejs right, lately. |
| 00:46.36 | djph | so you'd rather depend on systemd? that's ... unfortunate |
| 00:46.50 | specing | what does "switching languages" mean? |
| 00:47.13 | djph | use anything other than node, so that you didn't have to depend on systemd |
| 00:47.20 | KatolaZ | it has nothing to do with systemd |
| 00:47.26 | djph | I know it doesn't |
| 00:47.30 | specing | tpcoder: idk, I'd try putting debian counterpart itno /etc/lsb-release or whatever the file is |
| 00:47.35 | KatolaZ | it's just due to the way packages regognise the underlying distro |
| 00:47.38 | specing | after doing a snapshot |
| 00:48.00 | KatolaZ | there is no systemd involved |
| 00:48.22 | tpcoder | specing: yeah i am gonna pipe the output to awk or something and run it afterwards |
| 00:48.28 | KatolaZ | it's just that the packager needs to know about devuan, and how to check it |
| 00:49.28 | msiism | specing: blinkdog is apparently using nodejs on devuan and could very possibly help out. but he is not here now. |
| 00:49.30 | fsmithred | downgrade base-files? |
| 00:49.34 | fsmithred | ducks |
| 00:49.49 | KatolaZ | no fsmithred |
| 00:51.44 | tpcoder | djph: no, i would not rather depend on systemd. Stop acting like a goofball please. |
| 00:52.37 | djph | tpcoder: err, now you've lost me, given the rhetorical goofy question, and my equally tongue-in-cheek response. |
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| 00:53.24 | tpcoder | i have a job dude. and that involves programming with server side javascript a.k.a nodejs |
| 00:54.27 | tpcoder | i don't have plans to "switch languages" just because it depends on systemd which it actually doesn't |
| 00:56.46 | tpcoder | sorry it came off a bit offensive |
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| 00:57.14 | tpcoder | i couldn't tell you were being sarcastic :) |
| 00:58.06 | rsevero | Hi, just getting my first experiences with Devuan. What is the recommended way to install MariaDB (the latest if possible ;) in Devuan? |
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| 01:00.16 | KatolaZ | rsevero: apt-get install mariadb ? |
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| 01:02.28 | rsevero | KatolaZ: # apt-get install mariadb |
| 01:02.29 | rsevero | Reading package lists... Done |
| 01:02.29 | rsevero | Building dependency tree |
| 01:02.29 | rsevero | Reading state information... Done |
| 01:02.29 | rsevero | E: Unable to locate package mariadb |
| 01:02.54 | KatolaZ | oh lord |
| 01:02.56 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 01:03.01 | KatolaZ | apt-cache search mariadb |
| 01:03.03 | KatolaZ | ;) |
| 01:03.06 | tpcoder | mariadb-server? |
| 01:03.11 | KatolaZ | mariadb-client? |
| 01:03.56 | tpcoder | i don't think he is trying to install the client |
| 01:04.30 | rsevero | I get the 10.0 version this way KatolaZ. how could I get a 10.1 or 10.2 MariaDB server? |
| 01:04.41 | KatolaZ | rsevero: change distro? |
| 01:04.49 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 01:04.52 | tpcoder | what release are you on? |
| 01:04.57 | KatolaZ | which version of devuan are you using? |
| 01:04.59 | KatolaZ | jessie? |
| 01:05.18 | rsevero | KatolaZ: I'm currently thinking about changing from Ubuntu server to Devuan ;) |
| 01:05.24 | KatolaZ | rsevero: 10.1.26 is in ascii |
| 01:05.33 | KatolaZ | ascii is not yet released |
| 01:05.36 | KatolaZ | but will be |
| 01:05.37 | rsevero | Devuan GNU/Linux 1.0 (jessie) |
| 01:05.40 | KatolaZ | probably soon |
| 01:05.55 | KatolaZ | you can upgrade from jessie to ascii |
| 01:06.18 | rsevero | KAtolaZ: So I would get 10.1. Ok. That's better. |
| 01:06.46 | rsevero | Can I use Debian packages available at MariaDB's repositories in Devuan? |
| 01:07.03 | KatolaZ | rsevero: if you mix repos, you are on your own |
| 01:07.12 | KatolaZ | the same holds in Debian :) |
| 01:07.40 | KatolaZ | the only way to be sure that you stay away from systemd-stuff is to use only devuan repos |
| 01:07.53 | rsevero | KatolaZ: Ok, so if I need a newer MariaDB in Devuan the safest option would be to compile it myself? |
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| 01:08.44 | KatolaZ | rsevero: I don't think mariadb depends on systemd |
| 01:08.51 | KatolaZ | but I don't know |
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| 01:09.25 | tpcoder | it doesn't and it shouldn't |
| 01:11.04 | rsevero | So it should be safe to install Debians MariaDB package in Devuan? |
| 01:11.48 | fsmithred | rsevero, you don't need to get it from debian |
| 01:11.54 | tpcoder | it does depend on libdystemd though |
| 01:12.03 | fsmithred | if you have devuan installed, just install it from the repo |
| 01:12.10 | fsmithred | oh, you need newer |
| 01:12.12 | tpcoder | libsystemd0* |
| 01:12.21 | fsmithred | so does xorg, tpcoder |
| 01:12.30 | KatolaZ | and more, atm |
| 01:12.37 | rsevero | fsmithred: I mean the ones from MariaDB's repos targeting Debian. |
| 01:12.38 | tpcoder | yeah I know |
| 01:12.53 | fsmithred | yes, rsevero those probably work |
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| 01:18.56 | rsevero | fsmithred: I will try it. Thanks you all. |
| 01:19.44 | KatolaZ | no problem rsevero |
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| 01:24.35 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 05:38.55 | manchot | hi, if I set up multi-factor authentication for SSH, such as google-authenticator, can I use a simple password to logon to my ssh? is it secure? |
| 05:39.38 | manchot | I mean with a a dynamic code from google-authenticator on my phone, and a simple password, it is safe enough? Because obviously I can't remember a very long password for ssh. |
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| 06:18.21 | vibe | good morning. Newest image update broke something. I got this error. grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdd1. Check your device.map. |
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| 10:55.52 | vibe | ok, solved my problem already. I had bootable usb drive attached and that foooled grub |
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| 16:00.02 | msiism | KatolaZ: should i just remove my comment on image sizes concerning the png vs. xpm logos for wdm and our very small discussion on that, before it all goes into e-mail? i feel, it kind of adds unnecessary noise. |
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| 16:05.19 | msiism | KatolaZ: (i'm talking about the sprint pad) |
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| 16:31.04 | KatolaZ | msiism: the pad is up for editing :) |
| 16:31.14 | KatolaZ | msiism: feel free to amend it |
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| 16:45.13 | msiism | KatolaZ: will do. |
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| 20:18.05 | fromport | hi, i am on CERES, and since a couple of days I lost my sound in eg youtube on both my browsers (firefox/chrome) |
| 20:18.34 | fromport | but when i hit "screenshot" i do get a "shuttersound" when the screenshot is taken. |
| 20:19.07 | fromport | so the hardware is working. anyone else seen/heard/experienced this ? |
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| 20:19.38 | fromport | is there a forum dedicated to ceres btw ? |
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| 20:22.47 | KatolaZ | fromport: might be due to the latest firefox depending on pulseaudio? |
| 20:22.58 | debdog | plain ALSA or any sound server involved? |
| 20:23.28 | fromport | did chrome change that as well at the same time ? |
| 20:26.10 | debdog | also, FF should be banned from any 'puter https://drewdevault.com/2017/12/16/Firefox-is-on-a-slippery-slope.html |
| 20:26.26 | KatolaZ | debdog: surf :) |
| 20:27.00 | debdog | hehe |
| 20:27.05 | debdog | well, twue that |
| 20:28.29 | KatolaZ | even if I still need FF in a few cases |
| 20:28.36 | fromport | https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/update-looking-glass-add/ <- they did apologize |
| 20:28.54 | specing | if you stay on LTS you don't have to deal with this madness |
| 20:29.02 | specing | its what LTS is for |
| 20:29.03 | fromport | i am running "nightly" btw 59.0a1 (2017-12-18) (64-bit) |
| 20:29.55 | fromport | KatolaZ: there is no "pulse" program running on my machine. |
| 20:30.57 | fromport | starting "pulseaudio" (as a user) doesn't fix anything |
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| 20:45.48 | KatolaZ | fromport: no idea |
| 20:47.33 | fromport | another thing I encountered: i am no longer to syspend/hibernate from the gui (LXDE/lightdm). I am using a CLI command now. |
| 20:47.40 | fromport | +able |
| 20:49.44 | debdog | fromport: one thought, mayhap the default audio device changed and it's playing to hdmi instead of analogue, or vice versa |
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| 20:52.10 | fromport | i am on a imac 27", so everything in one. no HDMI output, but it does have a intel digital super video output connector. will check, thanks for the feedback |
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| 20:53.22 | debdog | intel digital super, sounds fancy :) |
| 20:54.48 | debdog | there is a neat script at ALSA's which collects a lot of info and hence might reveal something. when it asks for upload, say hes and post the link |
| 20:55.08 | debdog | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh |
| 20:56.00 | debdog | do the browsers log system related stuff or print helpful messages if started from terminal? |
| 20:56.04 | debdog | fromport: ^ |
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| 20:57.53 | debdog | I think I've posted this before: https://drewdevault.com/2017/12/16/Firefox-is-on-a-slippery-slope.html |
| 20:57.53 | debdog | and now: https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/update-looking-glass-add/ |
| 20:58.27 | debdog | and they actually see the problem and do mention it in the first sentence |
| 20:59.56 | debdog | yeah, well, so much for wrong #channel. |
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| 21:02.11 | fromport | https://pastebin.com/29xnNfB3 |
| 21:06.43 | debdog | fromport: content of ~/.asoundrc and/or /etc/asound.conf? |
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| 21:16.48 | fromport | find ~ -name \*asound\* doesn't yield a match and no /etc/asound.conf |
| 21:17.14 | fromport | but up to 4 days ago , everything "just worked" |
| 21:18.07 | fromport | and like i mentioned earlier, the shuttersound when i take a screenhot is there, even when the mixer in lxde says my sound volume = 0 and i have mute on |
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| 21:18.43 | fromport | i need to run an errand, will be afk prob for an hour. thanks again for all feedback |
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| 21:29.56 | debdog | <fromport> and like i mentioned earlier, the shuttersound when i take a screenhot is there, even when the mixer in lxde says my sound volume = 0 and i have mute on |
| 21:29.56 | debdog | this too might inidcate a mix-up regarding devices. E.g. you mute HDMI with the mixer but the screenshot app uses analogue |
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| 21:32.47 | debdog | when playing something from browser do "lsof | grep pcm" and see whether the browser uses pcmC0* (device0 "anolog/digital") or pcmC1* (device1 "HDMI") |
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| 21:34.14 | debdog | sorry, I have no clue 'bout LXDE and which audio progs it utilises (mixer etc.) |
| 21:35.46 | debdog | if you use alsamixer you can change devices with F6. this way you can test which prog uses which device, too |
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| 21:37.58 | debdog | and, you should see, if you have both mixers aside, which mixer control changes the one from LXDE |
| 21:37.58 | debdog | if the change-of-default-audio-device theory fits, one device alters screenshot prog volume and the other one browsers etc. |
| 21:38.26 | debdog | prolly won't make it for one more hour, sorry, just too groggy today |
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| 21:41.36 | debdog | oh, one more thing. you might set the dafault device in ~/.asoundrc: |
| 21:41.37 | debdog | defaults.ctl.!card NAME |
| 21:41.37 | debdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.34 | debdog | use "aplay -L | grep CARD" to find the NAME |
| 21:43.35 | debdog | eg, line: "hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0", NAME would be PCH |
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