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01:20.53*** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/
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09:24.15Guest55552hi
09:24.18Guest55552i've set the right variables in the config file of amprolla, and then i ran amprolla_init.py
09:24.33Guest55552but 'import request' failed in 'lib/net.py':
09:24.43Guest55552ImportError: No module named requests
09:25.07Guest55552i have installed python3-requests
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09:37.16Guest55552solved: the requered package was python-request
09:40.20Guest55552now i'm getting an error in 'def logtofile(filename, text, redo=False)'
09:40.41Guest55552concretly in the line 58:
09:40.56Guest55552'makedirs(logdir, exist_ok=True)'
09:41.09Guest55552TypeError: makedirs() got an unexpected keyword argument 'exist_ok'
09:42.15Guest55552have i clone dthe right version of amprolla?
09:42.17Guest55552https://github.com/parazyd/amprolla
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09:42.57parazydthey're all the same
09:43.21parazydremember to use python 3. also i haven't tested it with older than python 3.4
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09:44.11Guest55552thanks parazyd: you specified it in the readme file
09:45.12parazydwhat are you using/where are you running it?
09:46.35Guest55552parazyd: i removed /run/lock/amprolla.lock and now 'python3 amprolla_init.py'is working :)
09:47.02Guest55552parazyd: i'm running it in local for testing purposes
09:47.10parazydok
09:47.31Guest55552oops! i didn't remove the contrib and non-free files...
09:48.10Guest55552parazyd: i have an idea for future versions of amprolla in C/C++ and sqlite
09:49.27Guest55552you defined all the fields for pkg and sources: version, depends, conflicts, etc
09:51.03parazyddon't waste time ;)
09:51.14Guest55552parazyd: i'll buy a dedicated server and try to use amprolla for gnuinos
09:51.41Guest55552i other versions, you mean?
09:51.46Guest55552in*
09:51.53parazyd10:48 <Guest5555> parazyd: i have an idea for future versions of amprolla in C/C++ and sqlite
09:51.56parazydwith this
09:52.01Guest55552ok
09:53.10Guest55552thanks, parazyd: time to coffee :)
09:53.57Guest55552bbl
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11:04.56enyc_Hrrm... any body with Devuan Ascii, able to start/stop 'nsd'  (NSD 4.x) ?  im having a struggle on debian stretch server with sysvinit  at least...
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16:44.05msiismdone some further investigation on why some of the pdf files on my drive have mysteriously turned blank.
16:44.39msiismi looped through all the pdfs in my home dir, opening every one of them in xpdf.
16:45.17msiismfound about 20 single files and 3 e-books that had the problem.
16:45.54msiismcopied those to my newly installed ascii laptop.
16:46.08msiismthere, i was able to read them all, except one, which seemed to be corrupted.
16:47.36msiismas a next step, i booted jessie desktop live on my main machine (from which i had copied the pdfs before) and tried to read them there. result: all were perfectly readable, except one, which, as the pdf reader told be, was broken.
16:47.54msiisms/be/me
16:48.26msiism(the broken one is already broken on a backup from several months ago. i suspect it's a faulty download)
16:48.35msiismso, how can this possibly be?
16:49.45msiismwell, one thing i noticed in one of the "blank" pdfs was that the background image was still intact.
16:50.42msiismso, maybe the problem is just a missing font.
16:52.04msiismbut why would there be a missing font, when there was no missing font before?
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16:53.24msiismi must have done something wrong in the meantime. well, what i had done lately, was install ttf-mscorefonts-installer from contrib.
16:54.21fsmithredcosmic rays?
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16:55.37msiismfsmithred: if nothing else helps, i'll look into that as well ;)
16:56.26msiismjust noticed something about ttf-mscorefonts-installer that might give me a clue
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16:59.19msiismttf-mscorefonts-installer does not actually install anything on may ascii laptop because comparison of the checksums of the font files it retrieves from sourceforge fails.
16:59.31msiisms/may/my
16:59.45fsmithredsf is down
17:00.06msiismfsmithred: oh, so there's the reason for that.
17:00.15fsmithredyeah, big ddos
17:00.26fsmithredoh
17:00.31fsmithredddos is on github
17:00.49fsmithredbut sf and slashdot are down for unannounced reasons
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17:02.14msiismfsmithred: so, what the failing install of ms corefonts leaves me with is that the systems still differ in one point: the working system has ms corefonts, the other one doesn't. and i'm quite certain the live system doesn't have them either.
17:02.51fsmithredand you can read the pdf on the one that does have the fonts?
17:03.02msiismso, i think that if i uninstalled the package from ym main system, those pdfs should probably be readable again.
17:03.07msiismfsmithred: right
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17:03.48fsmithredthat sounds good
17:04.03fsmithredor maybe backward
17:04.07fsmithredwhy UNinstall?
17:04.09msiismfsmithred: but then, i'm a bit hesitant to uninstall the ms fonts now, since i won't be bale to re-install them while sf is down.
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17:04.28fsmithredcopy them over
17:04.43fsmithredthen run fontconfig (or whatever the magic word is)
17:04.46msiismfsmithred: uninstall to get the ms fonts out of the way and see how the system displays the pdfs then.
17:04.57msiismfsmithred: ok, that's a better idea.
17:04.59msiismthanks
17:05.05fsmithredyw
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17:07.05msiismfsmithred: i'll just zip the directory then run fontconfig.
17:07.24Guest74774i got a
17:07.39Guest74774hi again
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17:08.10fsmithredhi
17:09.14Guest74774i have three directories in amprolla/spool
17:09.26Guest74774hi, fsmithred
17:09.50Guest74774debian, devuan and dists
17:12.39msiismfsmithred: the command is `fc-cache`, btw.
17:12.53fsmithredah, thanks
17:17.09msiismfsmithred: anyway, no luck. maybe uninstalling ms coferontf would to move than what i've done.
17:17.25msiisms/to/do/
17:18.19msiismi'll wait until sf is up again ind try it.
17:19.35Guest74774amprolla worked
17:19.55Guest74774too fast
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17:21.22fsmithredaitor, are you complaining that it was too easy?
17:23.15Guest74774nope :)
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17:25.28Guest74774fsmithred: recently we have been attached by very clever trolls
17:25.51fsmithredattacked in this channel?
17:26.08fsmithredI know people were spamming other channels
17:26.14Guest74774in the mailing list
17:26.18fsmithredoh
17:26.30fsmithredoh, yeah, I saw some of that
17:26.48Guest74774any digest in the subject, and their clocks were always right
17:27.05fsmithred?
17:27.54fsmithredbrb
17:28.21Guest74774what about moving our clocks to the future (2035, for example), and filter all the messages comming from the present?
17:28.47Guest74774fsmithred has gone
17:30.03Guest74774serpentine trolls...
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18:46.00Guest63268hi again
18:46.54debdogliked the 74774 better
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18:56.27Guest63268i've got a /home/aitor/amprolla/spool folder containing the dists
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20:14.54msiismKatolaZ: there comes the bug report on missing translation in d-i.
20:16.48Guest63268missing translation in d-i?
20:17.34msiismGuest63268: yes, in the German version, there a a views things that are not translated.
20:17.48msiismGuest63268: in the ASCII beta, that is.
20:19.33Guest63268this is strange, which udebs?
20:20.37msiismGuest63268: i don't know. what are udebs?
20:21.31Guest63268packages for d-i
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20:21.53msiismGuest63268: you mean, like tasksel, for example?
20:22.35Guest63268yes
20:23.30msiismwell, i can't really say, sine i don't know which ones there are. but popcon and tasksel are affected.
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20:24.20Guest63268popcorns?
20:24.32msiismpopularity contest
20:24.55Guest63268i like popcorns
20:25.08msiismi'd have to think about that
20:29.22Guest63268a custom grub-install-udeb giving to choose between BIOS or UEFI would be fine
20:30.28Guest63268need to go
20:39.06HestbenHey guys!
20:39.55HestbenI think I have messed up my old installation of openbox and lxde. Installing lxde again didn't start lxsession when logging in to an openbox session...
20:41.37Hestbenmanually running "lxsession" starts a session after loggin in on openbox, and starts the panel and stuff
20:42.11HestbenI guess I should try uninstalling openbox, lxde, and trying to start from the beginning again, I guess..
20:42.22fsmithredis there a startlxde command?
20:42.35fsmithredand are you using a display manager?
20:43.09Hestbenstartlxde is available
20:43.38fsmithreduse that instead of startx
20:44.20Hestbenfsmithred: Where do you mean? In some config-file?
20:44.33fsmithredhow do you get to a desktop?
20:44.40fsmithredgraphical login or startx?
20:44.47HestbenAs to the login-manager. It may be gdm. I don't remember. I remember messing with it a lot though
20:45.25fsmithredthere should be a way to select what desktop you want in the login manager
20:45.30fsmithredin slim, it's F1
20:45.48fsmithredin lightdm and lxdm there's a menu somewhere
20:45.53HestbenI choose openbox, but it starts a session without starting lxsession
20:46.15fsmithredyeah, are there other choices?
20:46.57fsmithredI suppose you could add a line to ~/.config/openbox/autostart
20:47.02fsmithredlxsession &
20:47.33HestbenI don't even have that file created.
20:47.37Hestbenwill try.
20:48.22fsmithredI'm surprised that the login manager doesn't give you lxde as a choice
20:48.58HestbenI think it mentioned something about configuring lxde to use openbox
20:49.20Hestbenopenbox was already installed. And I had LXDE installed before upgrading to devuan.
20:49.39HestbenThere may be some remnant files, or something I messed up during upgrade
20:50.51HestbenCreating ~/.config/openbox/autostart with content "lxsession &" and making it executable did the trick.
20:50.54Hestbenthanks fsmithred
20:51.50fsmithredgood. I have to go.
20:54.45ThurahTcool, iceweasel is moving to UXP. They're fed up with mozilla.
20:55.49msiismThurahT: ?
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21:21.36ejrfor running devuan ceres, I only need to replace "jessie" / "ascii" in sources.list and then upgrade, right?
21:22.14KatolaZapt-get update
21:22.22KatolaZapt-get dist-upgrade
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21:31.44ejrok, thx
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