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| 08:04.39 | mmaglis | Hi. I have issue with pm_suspend. On resume, the system is "frozen". When on xserver nothing works. When on console, login works on another tty but no further commands are possible. The only way to recover the system is a hard reset. This is a laptop on which suspend used to work under Debian stretch. It has been migrated to Devuan ASCII (no fresh install). I would appreciate some pointers to try to fix it. Thanks. |
| 08:05.46 | Humpelst1lzchen | mmaglis: same kernel as stretch? Same configs in /etc/pm? |
| 08:06.27 | mmaglis | kernel: Linux genie 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.82-1+deb9u3 (2018-03-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 08:07.32 | mmaglis | There is only one file there, /etc/pm/sleep.d/99fancontrol.sh |
| 08:09.58 | Humpelst1lzchen | and what gpu drivers are using now/used previously? |
| 08:10.21 | mmaglis | i915 |
| 08:10.25 | mmaglis | the same as before |
| 08:13.30 | Humpelst1lzchen | that might be a problem, most systems are recommended to use modeset |
| 08:13.48 | KatolaZ | mmaglis: what does dmesg say? |
| 08:13.52 | Humpelst1lzchen | most intel |
| 08:15.14 | mmaglis | yes, modeset=1, otherwise I cannot use xserver. |
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| 08:16.23 | Wonka | between 4.9 and 4.15 there has been done so much that I'd really recommend trying a 4.15 kernel |
| 08:16.42 | mmaglis | from backports? |
| 08:16.53 | KatolaZ | mmaglis: hold on |
| 08:17.02 | Wonka | mmaglis: if possible. |
| 08:17.02 | KatolaZ | i915 works fine |
| 08:17.12 | KatolaZ | even with 3.16 |
| 08:17.28 | mmaglis | yes it does for me too, excep when I resume from pm_suspend :-) |
| 08:17.30 | Wonka | I build my own kernels for years now, works just fine. |
| 08:17.40 | KatolaZ | mmaglis: I am talking of pm_suspend... -_- |
| 08:18.03 | KatolaZ | mmaglis: what does dmesg say? |
| 08:18.18 | mmaglis | for i915? |
| 08:18.19 | KatolaZ | (you can look at /var/log/messages after reboot |
| 08:18.31 | KatolaZ | nope, after pm_suspend |
| 08:19.08 | mmaglis | grep reveals nothing for pm_suspend |
| 08:19.25 | KatolaZ | mmaglis: you should not grep |
| 08:19.36 | KatolaZ | you should look at what is there after you try a resume |
| 08:19.56 | KatolaZ | it won't say "hey, it's pm_suspend over here... " :D |
| 08:20.10 | mmaglis | ok, let me search for a moment. |
| 08:20.30 | KatolaZ | look for "PM: suspend" |
| 08:21.18 | KatolaZ | and for "PM: Restoring" |
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| 09:10.27 | TheTrueHooha | I discovered the existance of /etc/systemd and am curious why this config directory exists when systemd isn't installed on this system? |
| 09:15.44 | mmaglis | KatolaZ: I did not find anything conclusive in the logs. Only some "System wakeup disabled by ACPI" lines. I will contact more thorough tests to gather more information. I will provide any findings on the mailing list or here. |
| 09:19.08 | Wonka | TheTrueHooha: maybe some package drops some config files there for use by systemd? |
| 09:19.17 | Wonka | TheTrueHooha: try "dpkg -S /etc/systemd" |
| 09:20.13 | TheTrueHooha | init-system-helpers: /etc/systemd |
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| 09:47.36 | debdog | wonders which software the option "console productivity" in the installer's software selection might include? |
| 09:47.50 | debdog | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/ch06s03.html.en#di-install-software does not mention it |
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| 10:06.39 | Irrwahn | debdog: This is a genuine Devuan ASCII meta-package, so no surprise it's not mentioned by Debian. |
| 10:06.44 | Irrwahn | debdog: apt-cache depends task-console-productivity |
| 10:08.24 | debdog | Irrwahn: ok, thanks |
| 10:08.40 | debdog | apt-cache depends task-console-productivity |
| 10:08.40 | debdog | E: No packages found |
| 10:08.59 | Irrwahn | Are you on ascii or jessie? |
| 10:09.03 | debdog | so, at this point it does not contain any software (yet)? |
| 10:09.09 | debdog | oh |
| 10:09.20 | debdog | installing ascii but on this 'puter I am on jessie |
| 10:09.51 | Irrwahn | Well, it's not available in jessie. ;o) |
| 10:09.56 | debdog | I'll have a look as soon as the other 'puter is installed |
| 10:09.59 | debdog | hehe |
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| 10:14.45 | debdog | quite a list and usefull stuff - should've selected it |
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| 10:15.52 | Irrwahn | You can install it anytime. |
| 10:16.13 | debdog | that's just a meta package, right? |
| 10:16.15 | Irrwahn | apt-get install task-console-productivity |
| 10:16.19 | Irrwahn | Right. |
| 10:16.19 | debdog | ok |
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| 10:52.42 | mmaglis | Hi. I have done some tests on my pm-suspend issue mentioned earlier. The problem seems to be with laptop-mode-tools when on battery power only. The system suspends, but resume seems to not wake up the disk. Nothing is left on the system logs, login seems to work but no further commands are possible once logged in. Hard reset is the only way to take back the system. Any ideas? |
| 10:56.22 | gnarface | on ascii? |
| 10:56.37 | gnarface | i'd check to see if it's a known bug that's been fixed in a more recent kernel |
| 10:56.57 | mmaglis | yes. This is a migrated system from Debian stretch -> Devuan ascii |
| 11:00.23 | mmaglis | gnarface: I will check for bugs and a newer kernel. Is kernel 4.14 from bpo the latest packaged in Devuan? |
| 11:01.40 | gnarface | i believe so |
| 11:01.44 | gnarface | er, more or less |
| 11:02.09 | gnarface | i don't know if it's identical to the one in ceres bu they're both 4.14 |
| 11:02.27 | gnarface | er um |
| 11:02.32 | gnarface | heh sorry |
| 11:02.42 | mmaglis | what? |
| 11:02.43 | gnarface | i just ran apt-get update and it made me a liar; 4.15 is in ceres now |
| 11:03.28 | mmaglis | I run ascii, so I will try the 4.14 one and see if the issue is different or resolved. |
| 11:03.29 | gnarface | that must have changed pretty recently |
| 11:04.03 | mmaglis | I will report back soon... |
| 11:04.07 | gnarface | the 4.14 one seems pretty good for me but i'm not using battery or suspend |
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| 11:13.53 | mmaglis | gnarface: Devuan ascii, kernel 4.14, laptop-mode-tools on battery only: pm-suspend does not resume correctly as well. |
| 11:15.00 | mmaglis | I will search for laptop-mode-tools bugs or discussions on this. Should I report it as a bug on Devuan BTS? |
| 11:15.21 | gnarface | yes, i think so |
| 11:15.44 | gnarface | you might want to check the it and debian's for existing reports though; someone may have posted a temporary workaround |
| 11:15.55 | gnarface | or maybe even a fix |
| 11:16.13 | gnarface | perhaps some module option tweak or something |
| 11:16.39 | gnarface | make sure you mention that you checked the stock ascii kernel as well as backports |
| 11:17.02 | mmaglis | I will search and share what I find. |
| 11:17.43 | gnarface | make sure to mention the specific hardware brand & model too |
| 11:17.50 | gnarface | sometimes there are patterns |
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| 12:44.35 | Kutgebruiker9000 | very quick question: does Devuan support non-PAE systems? |
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| 16:08.47 | reber | hey |
| 16:09.20 | reber | is there something like raspbian config ? because I need to expand the FS |
| 16:09.36 | gnarface | you could do that with gparted |
| 16:10.02 | gnarface | that's probably the easiest way |
| 16:13.29 | reber | ok i will |
| 16:13.56 | gnarface | if you need to resize the root filesystem you might want to do it from a livecd |
| 16:13.58 | gnarface | it's much easier |
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| 16:14.13 | gnarface | you can boot a livecd, then just configure networking and install gparted in it |
| 16:14.40 | gnarface | if it's not already on there... it may be actually |
| 16:15.12 | unixman_home | Some liveCD releases include gparted. I'd be surprised Devuan doesn't. |
| 16:15.20 | reber | it's ok it's done. No config manager like in raspbian then ? |
| 16:15.36 | gnarface | not that i know of |
| 16:16.17 | reber | k thanks for the info |
| 16:16.41 | gnarface | no problem |
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| 16:18.49 | gnarface | oh, are you actually ON a raspberry pi, reber/ |
| 16:18.50 | gnarface | ? |
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| 16:20.26 | reber | yep |
| 16:26.51 | gnarface | oh, well that might make it more complicated |
| 16:27.05 | reber | why ? |
| 16:27.15 | gnarface | i'm not sure there's a script for that or not |
| 16:27.27 | gnarface | look in /usr/local/sbin or /usr/local/bin |
| 16:27.37 | gnarface | (on the raspberry pi devuan images) |
| 16:27.46 | reber | I tried to expand the FS with gparted but it didn't boot after that |
| 16:28.01 | gnarface | have you used gparted before? |
| 16:28.05 | reber | course |
| 16:28.24 | gnarface | no errors on resize? filesystem support was installed??? |
| 16:28.31 | reber | nothing |
| 16:28.37 | reber | i'm retrying |
| 16:29.16 | reber | maybe i could try with ascii |
| 16:29.20 | reber | is it stable enough ? |
| 16:29.39 | gnarface | probably |
| 16:29.45 | gnarface | if you don't need gnome |
| 16:30.05 | gnarface | you might still be missing some firmwares from raspbian too though |
| 16:30.15 | reber | i don't |
| 16:30.23 | reber | firmwares like what ? |
| 16:30.44 | gnarface | video decoding |
| 16:30.46 | gnarface | wifi |
| 16:30.49 | gnarface | maybe ethernet? |
| 16:30.57 | reber | ethernet ?? o.O |
| 16:31.03 | gnarface | primarily video decoding, hardware floating-point |
| 16:31.28 | reber | and they are in jessie images ? |
| 16:31.35 | gnarface | uh |
| 16:31.43 | gnarface | probably not |
| 16:31.52 | reber | heh |
| 16:31.52 | gnarface | i don't think anyone but raspbian is allowed to distribute them |
| 16:31.54 | gnarface | not sure about that |
| 16:32.00 | gnarface | but they are definitely non-free |
| 16:32.18 | gnarface | i do recall someone saying they were able to copy the files for wifi on a pi zero |
| 16:32.41 | gnarface | i think this must be a problem other people around here have solved |
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| 16:43.46 | reber | ok it's fine with ascii |
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| 16:47.24 | reber | are packages compatible with debian ? |
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| 16:58.42 | golinux | TheTrueHooha: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925 |
| 17:00.11 | TheTrueHooha | golinux: thanks. That clears things up a lot |
| 17:01.08 | golinux | Cool |
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| 19:14.04 | gnarface | reber: yes, it has generally all the same packages as debian, if that's what you're asking. don't mix distros though. that will break stuff. |
| 19:15.39 | reber | ok thx |
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| 19:17.45 | clemens3 | reber: regarding the partition increase, I always add additional partitiones, or just one bigger, instead.. and then copy stuff with rsync over, edit fstab, .. e.g. home is a good candidate to split off, or usr/local etc. |
| 19:18.18 | clemens3 | reber: or if usr gets to big, create another partition just for that and retire the initial 2 GB on the stick.. |
| 19:19.02 | clemens3 | sounds complicated, but was never really a problem usind fdisk and rsync and vi /etc/fstab.. |
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| 19:19.41 | clemens3 | reber: however, someone might finally port the raspbian-config over, it is indeed quite nifty |
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