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00:18.47*** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/
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01:08.23EHeMThing to do after ripping SystemDemon out: Start encouraging libraries to make use of dlopen()/dlsym() for mostly optional libraries, instead of linking to them, such would allow library dependancies to become "Recommends" or "Suggests" instead of "Depends".
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01:44.37jonadabCan we rip out pulseaudio and replace it with something that _consistently works_?
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01:44.54jonadabOr is that crazy talk?
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02:31.08hollajonadab: you can disable pulse on a per app base, iirc
02:48.29golinuxYou came remove it but the lib needs to stay.
02:49.19golinuxYou can also use apulse as an alternative to masquerade a pulseaudio.
02:51.22hollabtw, i'd like devuan to stay as close as possible to debian
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02:56.43guruI just updated from devuan jessie to ascii and when I type nano filename it's giving me an output of bash /usr/bin/nano no such file or directory
02:56.57Centurion_Danjonadab: alsa works in jessie just fine, but alot of apps are dropping direct alsa support for using pulseaudio only - firefox is a key package...
02:57.00gurui tried update-alternatives --config editor and selected  0            /bin/nano            40        auto mode
02:57.02gurusame issue
02:58.45guruweird
02:58.49gurui typed hash -r and that fixed it
02:58.51guruwhy who knows
03:07.53EHeMguru: Bash had previously searched $PATH for `nano` and found it was absent; `hash -r` clears the table so it retried the search and it was then present.
03:09.43guruthanks =]
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03:14.15guruResponse:fzSftp started, protocol_version=8 Command:open "user@ip" port Error:Server unexpectedly closed network connection Error:Could not connect to server
03:14.46guruwhen I restart ssh it starts up fine (OK) and I have PasswordAuth + TOTP + restricted by ip setup correctly
03:15.25gurui do get error messages about could not load host key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key (rsa ecdsa ed25519) though
03:15.31guruand key_load_public invalid formatr
03:16.10guruany idea whats going on? the port is open
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03:20.44captainzer0win 1
03:30.46hollaguru: file /etc/ssh/ssh_host*
03:31.58guru* is just to denote ssh_host_rsa_key ssh_host_ecdsa_key etc
03:32.04gurui see them all in /etc/ssh
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03:32.58hollabut file tells you whether they're recognized by magick
03:33.12hollathat could be a 1st hint
03:33.16guruthanks
03:33.17guru:)
03:33.22hollaalso check permissions
03:33.44hollaare all private keys 0400
03:33.57guruah i see now you helped me arrive at a solution indirectly
03:34.11gurui purged the keys and dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server to generate new ones
03:34.25guruthank you
03:34.38hollaokay!??
03:34.45gurui don't understand why i would have to do that
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03:35.19hollaand we will never know since you purged your old keys ;)
03:35.31guruyeah yeah
03:35.32guru:P
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