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| 22:46.23 | gnarface | well, the thing is, you may have run into failure cases before but not realized it. the type of errors it causes you see aren't always apparent at the time of the incident - usually they appear months or years later during subsequent upgrade |
| 22:47.08 | fugitive | +1 on that |
| 22:47.25 | gnarface | so, ever done a big upgrade and the nvidia drivers stop working right until you reinstall? and the reinstall process seems to run roughshod over your package dependency trees? yea... that's the smoking gun |
| 22:47.49 | gnarface | dkms is supposed to fix that but the way debian uses it just makes it worse |
| 22:47.52 | fugitive | espeecially with optimus :) |
| 22:48.08 | gnarface | oh gosh, optimus is another big problem |
| 22:48.48 | fugitive | yep, that's why i don't like all those kernel updates :D but well :) |
| 22:49.17 | gnarface | well, luckily they won't happen too much on ascii |
| 22:50.43 | fugitive | depends on upstream as well.. okay guys, g2go , 1am |
| 22:50.51 | fugitive | cya and thanks again! |
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