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03:34.44 | man_in_shack | ok |
03:36.30 | man_in_shack | got xdcmp working with vlc |
03:36.34 | man_in_shack | now how to get audio |
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04:01.15 | man_in_shack | whee |
04:01.30 | man_in_shack | actually using pulseaudio for networked audio |
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04:05.15 | man_in_shack | aaaaand in 1080p fullscreen it's laggy as fuck :D |
04:05.18 | man_in_shack | this is fuuuun |
04:06.38 | man_in_shack | trying direct X instead of using Xephyr now |
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04:20.37 | man_in_shack | problem solved, using xvideo instead of x11 :D |
05:07.13 | man_in_shack | trying to find an icon-based launcher thingy that doesn't depend on gtk |
05:07.29 | man_in_shack | pcmanfm-qt pulls in gtk libs |
05:16.40 | man_in_shack | desklaunch |
05:48.40 | man_in_shack | ok |
05:48.46 | man_in_shack | all the fuckingaround but it works |
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06:18.05 | man_in_shack | holyshitballs |
06:18.13 | man_in_shack | i even got the bluray working |
06:21.12 | man_in_shack | it's sluggish but it works |
06:23.00 | gnarface | what's the video card again? |
06:23.06 | man_in_shack | there isn't one (: |
06:23.11 | gnarface | i mean in the client machine |
06:23.14 | gnarface | not the encoding machine |
06:23.17 | man_in_shack | hehe |
06:23.21 | man_in_shack | gtx1070 |
06:23.38 | gnarface | did you have the official drivers for that? |
06:23.42 | man_in_shack | yah |
06:24.29 | gnarface | see if you can enable vdpau hardware scaling and deinterlacing in vlc for decoding (those are separate settings in mplayer) |
06:24.40 | gnarface | i'm not sure if vlc needs to be patched for that or not |
06:25.04 | gnarface | that will switch on the video card's decoder |
06:25.10 | man_in_shack | pfft |
06:25.10 | gnarface | should make high-def less cpu heavy |
06:25.23 | man_in_shack | will fiddle around with it |
06:25.25 | gnarface | it should also make windows stop using more cpu the larger they are |
06:26.02 | gnarface | there might be video codec constraints on what it can actually decode that way |
06:26.13 | man_in_shack | yeah |
06:26.21 | man_in_shack | but i'm only doing optical media |
06:27.02 | gnarface | well mpeg2 is one thing they all do |
06:27.11 | gnarface | even my old 650 will do h264 too though |
06:28.08 | man_in_shack | vdpau probably doesn't like going over networked x11 |
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06:30.41 | gnarface | no, vdpau would be client-only, this isn't happening at the server side |
06:30.54 | gnarface | this is for decoding |
06:31.42 | gnarface | in mplayer you'd use something like "-vo vdpau:deint=4,hqscaling:9" |
06:32.31 | man_in_shack | yah but i'm not streaming now, i'm actually running vlc on the remote system :P |
06:32.45 | man_in_shack | using xdmcp |
06:33.37 | gnarface | oh, i see. well that will probably kill vdpau, you're right |
06:34.15 | gnarface | at that point you might want to just use the sdl one |
06:34.30 | gnarface | there's a sdl video output module in vlc too, right? |
06:35.56 | man_in_shack | there is opengl |
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06:36.51 | gnarface | also worth a try |
06:37.42 | man_in_shack | no luck with opengl |
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06:53.54 | man_in_shack | well main thing is dvd playback seems to be fine |
06:54.17 | man_in_shack | and bluray playback is mostly watchable :P |
07:00.38 | KatolaZ | man_in_shack: X rulez ;P |
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07:48.02 | man_in_shack | just had an idea |
08:07.58 | man_in_shack | hm |
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08:25.33 | TomKa | hi, upgrading a jessie box to ascii fails completely for me. after reboot no keyboard, no mouse, even no network is there. switching back to devuan jessie. probably it has something to do with udev -> eudev? |
08:26.20 | TomKa | what can i check directly after upgrading (then the box is working)? |
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08:42.08 | man_in_shack | ok, i have no idea how the bluray disc is getting decrypted |
08:42.29 | man_in_shack | everything i've read says i should have entries in KEYSDB.cfg or ~/.cache/aacs/vuk |
08:42.34 | man_in_shack | i have neither |
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08:51.03 | KatolaZ | TomKa: how have you upgraded? |
08:51.16 | KatolaZ | TomKa: have you followed the upgrade walkthrough? |
09:00.33 | TomKa | followed this upgrade guide: https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/upgrade-to-ascii |
09:00.56 | TomKa | is there another one? |
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09:45.52 | man_in_shack | flails at man_in_shack |
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09:58.00 | furrymcgee | do you have any documentation about the systemd replacement? how is eudev used in devuan? |
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10:09.33 | KatolaZ | TomKa: nope |
10:09.47 | KatolaZ | TomKa: which mirror are you using? |
10:19.04 | TomKa | http://deb.devuan.org/merged |
10:21.31 | KatolaZ | TomKa: what kind of problem you have, exactly? |
10:25.13 | TomKa | no keyboard, no mouse, no network after reboot the fresh upgraded box |
10:25.48 | TomKa | i see the login screen and can do nothing |
10:26.04 | TomKa | have to switch off the box |
10:26.45 | KatolaZ | can you please reboot passing "noacpi" to the kernel line? |
10:27.32 | TomKa | ok, i have one try ;-) meanwhile i restored the backup and did the upgrade once again |
10:28.03 | TomKa | there is nothing which i can check now? |
10:28.55 | KatolaZ | uh? |
10:29.16 | KatolaZ | TomKa: are you doing a "dist-upgrade" right? |
10:29.21 | TomKa | yep |
10:29.45 | KatolaZ | and you don't have any other non-devuan repo in sources.list |
10:29.48 | KatolaZ | and/or pin? |
10:30.58 | TomKa | i have two non-devuan repos with special software (virtualbox and opsi), but both are commented now |
10:31.21 | TomKa | only sometimes i activate them to upgrade this software |
10:31.36 | TomKa | after finishing i deactivate this sources immediately |
10:31.48 | KatolaZ | ok |
10:32.59 | TomKa | ok, adding "noacpi" to /etc/default/grub in "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" is the right way? |
10:33.29 | KatolaZ | well, first try out from the grub console |
10:33.30 | KatolaZ | at boot |
10:33.38 | KatolaZ | before making it permanent ;) |
10:35.07 | KatolaZ | bbl |
10:38.14 | TomKa | nothing changed, after reboot the keyboard is completely dead |
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10:55.50 | TomKa | ok, after booting in 'recovery mode' keyboard does work |
10:58.08 | man_in_shack | just can't get away from gtk :P |
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11:01.46 | TomKa | KatolaZ: pebkac |
11:04.44 | TomKa | sorry for the inconvenience |
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11:21.38 | darkcrystal | Hi there, does Devuan installation process supports partition encryption out-of-the-box? |
11:25.02 | gnarface | i think there is that option |
11:25.06 | gnarface | i might be wrong |
11:25.39 | gnarface | i remember people were doing it |
11:25.46 | fsmithred | darkcrystal, yes. It's the same as the debian installer. |
11:25.47 | gnarface | maybe you need to be in expert mode |
11:26.05 | fsmithred | no, just select manual partitioning |
11:26.34 | darkcrystal | Great, that is awesome. |
11:27.32 | fsmithred | if you use one of the live isos, it's a different installer, but you can encrypt partitions with that, too. |
11:27.57 | darkcrystal | And do you have to choose during installation which Init you are going to be using? Or is it something default? |
11:28.09 | TomKa | KatolaZ: upgraded box is running ;-) |
11:28.11 | fsmithred | default is sysvinit. |
11:28.21 | fsmithred | if you want openrc, choose expert install |
11:28.30 | fsmithred | and then you can select openrc |
11:30.11 | darkcrystal | Nice, I really can't tell the difference anyway :P |
11:30.27 | darkcrystal | I'm just buying into this trend that systemd is bloated and I'm curious on trying something different |
11:30.45 | fsmithred | openrc seems to show more colors in the text that scrolls by at boot |
11:31.16 | fsmithred | other than that, I haven't noticed a difference, either |
11:31.31 | darkcrystal | hehehe, that is an improvement |
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12:13.47 | KatolaZ | TomKa: no worries ;) |
12:31.05 | xrogaan | so I get this when using steam: .local/share/Steam/steam.sh: ligne 106: VERSION_ID : unbound variable |
12:31.36 | xrogaan | maybe VERSION_ID should be set in /etc/os-release |
12:31.47 | xrogaan | line 106 is (. /etc/os-release; echo $VERSION_ID) |
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13:03.03 | amarsh04 | is anyone around who can tell me the /etc/apt/sources.list lines for getting the Devuan equivalent of Debian unstable, with testing and stable also available? |
13:03.49 | amarsh04 | I have: |
13:03.55 | amarsh04 | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main contrib non-free |
13:04.15 | amarsh04 | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free |
13:04.37 | amarsh04 | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free |
13:04.41 | KatolaZ | amarsh04: just use "deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged unstable main |
13:04.55 | KatolaZ | why on Earth do you also need testing and stable? |
13:04.56 | amarsh04 | <PROTECTED> |
13:05.08 | KatolaZ | BTW, stable is "ascii" not "jessie" |
13:05.14 | amarsh04 | I like having older versions around if something breaks |
13:05.18 | KatolaZ | and "testing" is "beowulf" not "ascii" |
13:05.37 | amarsh04 | thanks |
13:05.40 | KatolaZ | yeah but you don't have "testing" there |
13:07.15 | amarsh04 | fixing now |
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14:49.29 | _abc_ | Hello. Can someone please tell me the major:minor of /dev/lp0 ? I deleted it by mistake. |
14:49.57 | fsmithred | crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 0 Oct 7 11:58 /dev/lp0 |
14:50.08 | man_in_shack | stares at udev |
14:50.09 | _abc_ | Also, what creates /dev/usb/lp* or usblp*? I have a PL2305 usb to IEEE1284 cable and it is detected but no device is created for it |
14:50.19 | _abc_ | udev should be systemd'd |
14:50.21 | _abc_ | thanks fsmithred |
14:50.30 | man_in_shack | glares at _abc_ |
14:50.44 | _abc_ | Wait, that's 6, 0 right |
14:50.49 | fsmithred | yeah |
14:51.25 | man_in_shack | udev works reasonably well when it's configured right |
14:51.59 | _abc_ | I keep hearing that man_in_shack, now let's hear how to make it work when it does not work |
14:52.12 | _abc_ | So the driver loaded is usblp but no device is created. |
14:52.31 | _abc_ | I found a slackware relevant thread which describes this, it is a rule change in udev, linux-wide? |
14:52.34 | _abc_ | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/slack-14-1-no-dev-usb-4175492544/ |
14:52.53 | fsmithred | I only have /dev/usb/hiddev0. Nothing else under /dev/usb |
14:53.02 | _abc_ | Ah! now /dev/usb/lp0 was created |
14:53.10 | _abc_ | Apparently the /dev/lp0 confused something. |
14:53.22 | man_in_shack | exciting |
14:53.28 | _abc_ | fsmithred: when I plug in the cable /dev/usb/lp0 is created which is correct |
14:53.37 | fsmithred | what kind of cable is it? |
14:53.45 | fsmithred | I'm confused by usb/lp |
14:53.46 | _abc_ | fsmithred: USB to parallel IEEE1284 |
14:53.51 | fsmithred | oh, ok |
14:53.58 | _abc_ | It has a Prolific PL2305 in it |
14:54.06 | fsmithred | is still using lpt port for printer |
14:54.26 | man_in_shack | compiles his kernels without lp support LIKE A BADASS |
14:54.40 | fsmithred | my HP4L refuses to die |
14:54.49 | _abc_ | It's MUCH beter to mkdir /dev/usb so udev does not create it and delete it |
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14:55.03 | _abc_ | fsmithred: no parallel port on laptop |
14:55.14 | man_in_shack | write a udev rule that creates /dev/usb (: |
14:55.29 | _abc_ | man_in_shack: it's already there, I don't want it to be *deleted* |
14:55.35 | _abc_ | Confuses the h* out of some code |
14:56.21 | _abc_ | There is clearly anarchy at work. When a usb serial adapter is created, it is not created in /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 etc but in /dev |
14:56.52 | man_in_shack | make /dev readonly? ;) |
14:57.29 | _abc_ | and immutable? I am tempted. |
14:57.32 | _abc_ | udev must die. |
14:57.43 | _abc_ | It's rules are almost as bad as sendmail rewrite recipes |
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14:58.06 | man_in_shack | throws devfs at _abc_ |
14:58.20 | _abc_ | freezes devfs and udev in carbonite |
14:58.36 | man_in_shack | (: |
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17:58.40 | darkcrystal | KatolaZ: Can you please help me? I've just downloaded Devuan from the following mirror https://devuan.c3l.lu/devuan_ascii/installer-iso/ |
17:59.20 | darkcrystal | the package is devuan_ascii_2....amd64_dvd_1 |
17:59.40 | darkcrystal | but the checksum doesnt check with the ones on the mirror |
17:59.59 | KatolaZ | darkcrystal: then the image is corrupted |
18:01.06 | darkcrystal | KatolaZ: uhm, okay I will download it again then. Thx :) |
18:01.19 | KatolaZ | maybe try another mirror? |
18:02.37 | darkcrystal | It took very long to download the dvd_1. My internet is shitty today. I will try the netinst this time. |
18:03.08 | KatolaZ | maybe it's better |
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18:03.36 | KatolaZ | darkcrystal: have you verified the cechsum signature? |
18:03.39 | KatolaZ | (just in case)? |
18:04.34 | telst4r | at least the netinstall is smaller and downloads just what you tell it to. if the internet is a bottle neck. |
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18:05.47 | darkcrystal | KatolaZ: I'm not sure what you mean. What I did was, once the downloaded ended, run $ md5sum file.iso and then compared the result with the numbers listed on the mirror. Is there something eles? |
18:05.53 | darkcrystal | *else |
18:07.20 | darkcrystal | telst4r: Yes, the only problem is when your internet card is not recognized... but it dont think this should be a problem |
18:11.14 | telst4r | darkcrystal, well, there's that in some corner-cases. But I doubt he would suggest netinst if that was an issue. |
18:13.11 | darkcrystal | telst4r: I also don't think so, at least with debian it was fairly smooth. |
18:17.22 | telst4r | The kernels + modules are more or less same, aren't they? |
18:19.55 | KatolaZ | darkcrystal: it's not md5 |
18:19.59 | KatolaZ | it's sha256sum... |
18:20.20 | KatolaZ | darkcrystal: sha256sum -c SHA256SUMS |
18:20.29 | KatolaZ | your image is probably OK |
18:20.31 | darkcrystal | KatolaZ: That explains a lot hahaha |
18:20.37 | KatolaZ | ;) |
18:20.46 | darkcrystal | Too bad I allready deleted it |
18:20.50 | KatolaZ | darkcrystal: do not hesitate to read the readme ;P |
18:21.16 | darkcrystal | KatolaZ: you're right :P |
18:21.16 | KatolaZ | and/or the release notes |
18:21.53 | KatolaZ | darkcrystal: look at the first section in the release notes |
18:21.58 | KatolaZ | https://devuan.c3l.lu/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt |
18:22.02 | telst4r | hah that happens a lot |
18:22.10 | darkcrystal | but you really don't need to read any of those, is written fairly big SHA256SUMS |
18:22.13 | KatolaZ | after "In order to check..." |
18:22.30 | telst4r | not big enough apparently :) |
18:23.09 | KatolaZ | we'll try figlet(6) next time :P |
18:23.20 | KatolaZ | darkcrystal: sorry, I couldn't resist this one :) |
18:23.49 | KatolaZ | happy to see that you got around that, anyway |
18:23.59 | darkcrystal | KatolaZ: hahaha, no problem |
18:24.01 | KatolaZ | :D |
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21:15.20 | mchasard | hi |
21:15.48 | mchasard | i'm running kdevuan rom ... |
21:16.16 | mchasard | it seems to be interesting |
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23:45.30 | man_in_shack | huh |
23:45.42 | man_in_shack | what would cause apt to not show long descriptions? |
23:45.50 | man_in_shack | i'm only getting the one-line description of packages |
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