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| 01:15.40 | Xenguy | Whatever happened to browser agnostic web pages? |
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| 03:36.45 | *** topic/#devuan is This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel | **You might need to auth to nickserv to talk!** | Latest (2018-06-09): ASCII 2.0.0 https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/ascii-stable-announce-060818 || Stable (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 LTS release | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ | Chanlogs: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ |
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| 06:10.40 | scottfurry | would like to confirm... open-rc can be installed via current iso dvd via export mode but not the graphical installer or graphical installer expert mode. |
| 06:16.18 | golinux | Yes, it is an option in expert mode |
| 06:16.34 | golinux | scottfurry: ^^^ |
| 06:17.58 | scottfurry | golinux thanks. I hadn't tried the expert mode (assumed terminal type if IRC). I had hoped to try the Devuan install with open-rc. Tried both graphical and graphical expert to no avail. |
| 06:18.06 | scottfurry | Where to file the "feature request"? |
| 06:21.55 | golinux | I don't think there is a graphical expert option |
| 06:22.56 | scottfurry | I got there from iso main menu; Advanced; graphical. I may be using wrong terms but the process was more involved than plain graphical. |
| 06:24.53 | Jjp137 | scottfurry, in either expert install, at the "Load installer components from CD" step, make sure to select the choose-init component |
| 06:25.07 | Jjp137 | then later you'll be asked which init to install |
| 06:25.40 | scottfurry | Jjp137 - excellent!!!! Good tip. Will try that in a virtualbox install right now. |
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| 06:55.43 | scottfurry | looks like the openrc option worked. Looks good. Just realized that latest openrc is ver 0.35 IIRC. Install DVD doesn't load latest but its a good start. |
| 07:14.46 | scottfurry | golinux Jjp137 THX for help. |
| 07:16.00 | Jjp137 | np |
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| 08:54.11 | decent-username | Hi, I just found about this project. I would like to participate in the forum at dev1galaxy.org, but whenever I try to register my account, it gets dismissed as spam. |
| 08:54.34 | decent-username | Does the forum not allow people to register via Tor? |
| 08:55.44 | devoid_ | hello decent-username |
| 08:55.47 | devoid_ | are you a terrorist? |
| 08:56.06 | decent-username | I'm a Gnübermensch. |
| 08:56.24 | decent-username | probably only a very tiny minority will get this joke. |
| 08:57.00 | decent-username | I don't use the internet without tor. |
| 08:59.29 | devoid_ | https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/tor-project-almost-100-funded-us-government-report |
| 08:59.29 | devoid_ | https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/147402/how-do-traffic-correlation-attacks-against-tor-users-work |
| 09:00.30 | decent-username | still 10x better than running around naked and shouting out your address. haha |
| 09:00.48 | devoid_ | why |
| 09:01.10 | decent-username | Because I wouldn't want people knocking on my door. |
| 09:01.25 | devoid_ | why |
| 09:01.32 | devoid_ | perhaps stop using this shit then |
| 09:01.35 | devoid_ | all it does is make you a target |
| 09:03.49 | decent-username | devoid: You seem a bit too pessimistic for me. Some tor user has a target on their back. Even if they were able to somehow figure out my ip address. It would be almost impossible to track it back to me. ^^ |
| 09:03.53 | decent-username | I'm getting into GNUnet either way. |
| 09:05.18 | decent-username | I'll ask #d1g-users if the know what's up. |
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| 09:34.39 | r3boot | gnubermensch .. now I've been doing UNIX for over 15 years already, but I really never heard about that term before .. TIL :P |
| 09:35.03 | r3boot | (also .. proper people use BSD ;P j/k) |
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| 10:07.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | a gnubermensch with no patience. IRC-incompatible |
| 10:08.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | could have told tjem that all tor exit nodes are listed on RBL |
| 10:13.41 | r3boot | nah, he'll figure it out soon enough :P |
| 10:14.14 | devoid_ | i hope he gets hit with a browser 0day from a malicious exit node |
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| 10:28.14 | man_in_shack | r3boot: you haven't heard of it before because you've been doing unix |
| 10:28.18 | man_in_shack | and gnu is not unix |
| 10:29.02 | r3boot | Ofc, how could I be so stupid :P |
| 10:31.24 | man_in_shack | easily, as it turns out |
| 10:35.04 | PaulTheNeko | Excuse me, will the Jessie minimal install tutorial work with ascii if I replace the name in debootstrap and the repos in sources.list? |
| 10:36.22 | man_in_shack | in theory yes |
| 10:37.17 | PaulTheNeko | Thanks |
| 10:46.28 | gnarface | you might want to change the hostname in the sources.list to deb.devuan.org too, if it's an old tutorial |
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| 10:47.19 | gnarface | pkgmaster will give you about 11kbps to America and auto.mirror is just a deprecated record pointing to a bunch of broken mirrors. you might successfully complete an install or you might not, depending on package choice |
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| 10:49.30 | jordila | when i add something like 'iwconfig wlan0 txpower 1mW' to my /etc/rc.local and it doesn't run at startup , i might be missing some basics ... which one am i ? |
| 10:50.37 | gnarface | the path, probably |
| 10:52.14 | gnarface | you checked to make sure the script itself gets called, right? |
| 10:52.54 | gnarface | it should have come along with the "initscripts" package, which should be normal to have but i think it's possible to get an install without it. |
| 10:53.18 | gnarface | (you can't just create an /etc/rc.local and expect it to work without the /etc/init.d/rc.local script to call it) |
| 10:54.14 | gnarface | it'll be called with root permission but $PATH won't be defined |
| 10:55.30 | gnarface | so this should work: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 10:55.34 | gnarface | but this would not: ifconfig |
| 10:55.48 | gnarface | follow me? |
| 10:57.56 | jordila | i follow you gnarface |
| 10:58.09 | gnarface | ok, just making sure |
| 10:59.50 | jordila | would rather than plain 'iwconfig wlan0 txpower 1mW' try '/sbin/iwconfig wlan0 txpower 1mW' |
| 11:00.22 | r3boot | Another option would be to add /sbin to the PATH inside of rc.local |
| 11:00.53 | jordila | ah |
| 11:01.12 | gnarface | yea, it's just a bash script, jordila. nothing is stopping you from defining PATH yourself |
| 11:01.24 | gnarface | but then you have TWO lines of code |
| 11:01.43 | gnarface | it's debatable whether that's materially simpler in this case if that's the only thing in there |
| 11:01.58 | r3boot | it's a completely useless debate as well ;) |
| 11:02.13 | gnarface | yes, but past a few lines, it could save some typing |
| 11:03.04 | r3boot | care. Having a properly configured UNIX box is much more interesting then being able to save a bunch of characters being typed :P |
| 11:03.16 | gnarface | oh i agree |
| 11:03.49 | gnarface | in the end, when you're maintaining it yourself, all that matters is what you're comfortable with |
| 11:04.10 | r3boot | Sure :) |
| 11:05.54 | r3boot | Ugh .. I'm typing python for sysadmin scripts instead of shell, and it's been quite a long time since I've typed python .. Am a bit rusty, and I'm applying way too much shellscripting conventions to this script :P |
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| 11:16.11 | jordila | is wondering wether closing (to say so) 'exit 0' has to mandatory end it's /etc/rc.local file or not |
| 11:17.21 | gnarface | no, of course not. throw a non-zero (positive integer) value when you want to error. |
| 11:19.20 | gnarface | most things will interpret 0 as a success and anything else as failure |
| 11:23.45 | gnarface | oh, i may be wrong... it may be just values of 0-255 that are considered valid |
| 11:26.59 | jordila | may i just replace 'exit 0' by 'my command' ^^ ? |
| 11:28.43 | gnarface | i would think the only consequence is an error in your log but i don't know for sure... |
| 11:29.45 | gnarface | you might want to ready a live usb image first, just in case something goes wrong |
| 11:29.55 | gnarface | so you can fix it easy |
| 11:30.12 | jordila | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/247378/do-i-need-exit-0-at-the-end-of-rc-local |
| 11:31.28 | gnarface | yea the general consensus should be that it's fine and you'll just get a error |
| 11:31.32 | gnarface | but it's the last thing in boot |
| 11:31.36 | gnarface | like, the very last thing |
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| 11:42.44 | ca-on-adam | I'm going to try out ascii netinstall on a VPS, I'll report back if there are problems. |
| 11:52.16 | ca-on-adam | Ah, this company doesn't support ISO images... hmm that makes the availability of virtual machine images of Devuan very handy! |
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| 12:12.57 | barnsey | hi all, having trouble getting the ascii raspi2 image to run. Does anyone else have this working? |
| 12:18.40 | gnarface | i only have the the rpi1 |
| 12:19.13 | gnarface | did you create the config file? |
| 12:19.21 | gnarface | with my rpi 1, i need to create a config file |
| 12:19.26 | gnarface | same as raspbian more or less |
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| 12:30.04 | barnsey | no I just DDd the image and run it, I've not needed to make a config this on Raspian or jessie. |
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| 12:36.35 | gnarface | barnsey: maybe the raspbian install came with a default working config? check for it |
| 12:37.06 | gnarface | barnsey: i'm not sure if the devuan image actually has a populated one, but you might need to change stuff in it anyway... |
| 12:42.09 | barnsey | gnarface: devuan_jessie raspi2 image works fine out of the box, I'm not sure what config would stop it from booting the kernel. |
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| 12:45.28 | gnarface | barnsey: /boot/config.txt i think it is. compare them |
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| 12:47.07 | gnarface | barnsey: differences may also interfere with you being able to see the screen without interfering with boot up |
| 12:48.12 | barnsey | gnarface: thanks, i'll check that out. |
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| 13:06.23 | PaulTheNeko | Does anyone know how can I install Devuan on an lvm volume? |
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| 13:10.30 | gnarface | PaulTheNeko: did you try expert mode, manual partitioning? |
| 13:11.11 | PaulTheNeko | I can't figure out how do I get expert more, I'm using the live CD ISO, could that be the problem? |
| 13:11.20 | PaulTheNeko | mode* |
| 13:12.43 | gnarface | oh, yea the live cd has limited installation options |
| 13:12.52 | gnarface | you want the netinstall probably |
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| 13:14.36 | PaulTheNeko | Truth is, the last time I tried to boot netinstall, that failed. But I found a forum post here with the same question and they're talking about installing the Debian/Devuan installe |
| 13:18.11 | PaulTheNeko | I guess I'll try the netinstall again |
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| 14:01.56 | PaulTheNeko | I can't boot the net installer iso, it says that /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found |
| 14:02.32 | PaulTheNeko | I put it on a pendrive with dd (bs=100M) if that matters |
| 14:08.57 | gnarface | it might matter honestly |
| 14:10.16 | gnarface | this could be just an issue of the wrong netinstall image too, i think |
| 14:10.56 | gnarface | or it could be a efi/secureboot issue maybe? |
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| 15:52.39 | James1138 | Can anyone tell me more about " |
| 15:52.43 | James1138 | Devuan Conference in Amsterdam |
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| 16:08.26 | KatolaZ | James1138: what do you want to know? |
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| 16:22.28 | James1138 | There article on TuxMachines said something about participating or sending in comments/suggestions. What we they looking for in general |
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| 16:28.16 | KatolaZ | James1138: which article? |
| 16:29.13 | KatolaZ | http://tuxmachines.org/node/117948 <- ? |
| 16:29.35 | James1138 | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117948 |
| 16:30.19 | James1138 | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181128.044131.5a359f44.en.html |
| 16:30.25 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 16:32.19 | KatolaZ | if you want to offer sponsorship or propose a talk, use the email address provided in the email |
| 16:47.04 | James1138 | Thanks. I did not know if they were asking for input from Devuan users in general. |
| 16:55.45 | KatolaZ | James1138: what do you mean? |
| 16:56.06 | KatolaZ | the actual program will be published in a few weeks time |
| 16:56.27 | James1138 | Ahh... ok. I shall just wait. |
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| 16:57.19 | KatolaZ | James1138: if you have any comment about the conference in general , use the address reported in the email |
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