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| 00:39.38 | Xenguy | Yep, sane defaults, and then options behind the scenes, for the tinkers |
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| 10:18.23 | tuxd3v | Hello all |
| 10:18.32 | tuxd3v | Good Morning |
| 10:18.38 | tuxd3v | Freedom Lovers |
| 10:19.59 | KatolaZ | hi tuxd3v |
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| 10:36.02 | tuxd3v | hi KatolaZ |
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| 11:17.02 | jordila | hi #devuan ers , i've just installed pandoc package on my Ascii ... then, run ' $ pandoc ', the cursor stays blinking, and nothing happens. Uh... what could i be missing ? |
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| 11:32.25 | KatolaZ | jordila: have you used pandoc before? |
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| 11:32.33 | KatolaZ | it's a CLI filter |
| 11:32.38 | KatolaZ | jordila: man pandoc |
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| 11:40.50 | ejr | hi. i am running devuan ceres. when I try to upgrade the system I get an unmet dependency error for libxtst6. however i do not want to remove that package as that would also uninstall many base packages such as X |
| 11:40.53 | ejr | is there anything i can do? |
| 11:41.35 | KatolaZ | do not upgrade? |
| 11:41.46 | KatolaZ | ejr: which is the unmet dep? |
| 11:42.16 | ejr | x11-common |
| 11:42.38 | ejr | KatolaZ: i could not upgrade ofc, but won't the problem persist forever then? |
| 11:43.08 | xinomilo | running ceres prefer safe-upgrade or apt upgrade. dependency might take days to fix, don't rush it. |
| 11:43.26 | ejr | safe-upgrade? |
| 11:43.31 | xinomilo | don't dist-upgrade |
| 11:44.39 | ejr | then it says that dpkg has been kept back (if i run apt-get upgrade) |
| 11:46.18 | xinomilo | nice, keep it that way |
| 11:47.21 | xinomilo | hmm, don't know way. i run apt upgrade usually and dpkg is in the latest version |
| 11:47.27 | xinomilo | *why |
| 11:47.56 | KatolaZ | ejr: which is the broken dependency? |
| 11:48.03 | ejr | ok, i will just wait a few weeks :) |
| 11:48.15 | ejr | KatolaZ: libxtst6 : Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed |
| 11:48.15 | KatolaZ | x11-common? |
| 11:48.27 | KatolaZ | can you please post the full error message somewhere? |
| 11:48.34 | KatolaZ | (not directly here, pls) |
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| 11:48.59 | ejr | https://pastebin.com/tDCBdQ7C |
| 11:49.12 | ejr | brb |
| 11:49.54 | KatolaZ | ejr: it must be some package which is transitioning to unstable |
| 11:50.01 | xinomilo | got all these installed at latest versions. |
| 11:50.10 | KatolaZ | what is the missing dep on x11-common? |
| 11:50.27 | xinomilo | libxtst6: |
| 11:50.28 | xinomilo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.35 | xinomilo | x11-common: |
| 11:50.35 | xinomilo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.45 | xinomilo | dpkg: |
| 11:50.45 | xinomilo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:07.35 | ejr | ok, well, i will wait :) |
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| 22:17.02 | icarious | So there is no way to convince Debian to at least make the system friendly towards alternate inits like Gentoo, ridding the Devuan team off this task? |
| 22:19.14 | golinux | icarious: This conversation is probably better on #debianfork |
| 22:19.49 | MinceR | i'm sure there's a way, but it probably involves fighting IBM people and their thralls |
| 22:19.51 | icarious | takes it there |
| 22:20.05 | icarious | MinceR: IBM? Cause of Redhat purchase? |
| 22:20.41 | icarious | Ok i am in that channel. Taking it there henceforth |
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| 23:13.05 | specing | icarious: devuan does openrc btw |
| 23:16.15 | icarious | specing: I know. It was an offtopic question |
| 23:16.43 | icarious | On a related note. How is openrc in Devuan Buster? workable? |
| 23:17.02 | golinux | specing: Look on #debianfork |
| 23:17.15 | golinux | icarious: There is not devuan Buster. |
| 23:17.25 | golinux | There is Devuan Beowulf |
| 23:18.08 | icarious | golinux: I meant the upcoming release based on Buster |
| 23:18.10 | icarious | :P |
| 23:18.12 | icarious | lol |
| 23:18.14 | icarious | Sorry for the wrong term |
| 23:18.41 | golinux | :) |
| 23:20.29 | specing | What is the state of apparmor/selinux in devuan? Is there a document on this? |
| 23:20.57 | icarious | Buster was supposed to enable it by default. I wonder if it will roll down to Devuan too |
| 23:21.01 | icarious | I mean AppArmor |
| 23:21.28 | golinux | I've only heard negative comments in this camp |
| 23:22.35 | specing | I'm torn |
| 23:22.47 | specing | Fedora seems like the only distro serious about security |
| 23:23.03 | specing | but they ship very new software and have SELinux :/ |
| 23:23.09 | specing | have systemd* |
| 23:23.58 | specing | Why isn't there a systemd-less distro with SELinux? |
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| 23:24.42 | KatolaZ | specing: devuan |
| 23:24.44 | KatolaZ | o_O |
| 23:24.50 | KatolaZ | you can install selinux |
| 23:24.50 | specing | KatolaZ: ? |
| 23:25.11 | specing | I know I can, but are there policy files and are they good? |
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| 23:32.32 | watchcat | didn't you say exactly the same thing about apparmor a while back? someone did. |
| 23:34.29 | ashleyk_ | how do you disable the console blanking? setterm --powersave off ? |
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