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| 01:45.44 | Xenguy | FriendlyMan, Hello, are you a giant? |
| 01:50.00 | Xenguy | Pardon the whimsy, but of course |
| 01:52.53 | mlsmith | Xenguy, I had to look that up. Never seen the show. |
| 01:53.04 | Xenguy | hah |
| 01:53.15 | Xenguy | It's in the past, for sure |
| 01:53.43 | Xenguy | Look up... Look waaaaayyyyyyyyy up |
| 01:54.06 | Xenguy | He was the most friendly and chill giant ever |
| 01:54.08 | mlsmith | Yeah that is an old show. It ended the year after I was born. |
| 01:54.27 | Xenguy | You could have worse people influencing your child ; -) |
| 01:54.52 | Xenguy | I adored Rusty (the rooster?) |
| 01:55.07 | Xenguy | Anyhow, dating myself here, as it were |
| 01:56.38 | mlsmith | Haha, no worries. age = experience & wisdom |
| 01:57.01 | Xenguy | I'm still a sprite it turns out, mwuhaha |
| 01:57.41 | Xenguy | I'm all for wisdom though |
| 01:57.54 | Xenguy | If we can't learn from mistakes, what's the point? |
| 01:57.59 | mlsmith | Are all sprites mischievous? |
| 01:58.13 | Xenguy | It's a hotly debated topic! |
| 01:58.23 | Xenguy | But yes, I think so |
| 01:58.30 | Xenguy | It goes with the territory |
| 01:58.35 | furrywolf | I've heard of it, but never seen it... never been a tv fan. |
| 01:58.48 | Xenguy | .oO( Are we off-topic yet ? ) |
| 01:59.42 | mlsmith | Is there an off-topic channel? |
| 01:59.51 | Xenguy | furrywolf, TV was, and is, shite, but some of us got brainwashed by it before people knew it was a negative influence |
| 02:00.01 | Xenguy | mlsmith, debianfork |
| 02:00.15 | Xenguy | C'mon down |
| 02:00.30 | mlsmith | Okee dokee |
| 02:00.58 | furrywolf | Xenguy: ... I haven't noticed that happening yet. |
| 02:01.12 | Xenguy | hah |
| 02:01.17 | furrywolf | that is, people still don't seem to think it's a negative influence. |
| 02:01.48 | Xenguy | Like Jules said, "It's all Koolio and the Gang" |
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| 05:11.31 | panorain | Hello |
| 05:29.20 | fsmithred | panorain, if you have a question, ask, and eventually someone will answer. |
| 05:57.58 | panorain | fsmithred: Thank You |
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| 08:20.52 | emdete | hi, can i install a minimal booting (to shell) system to hd with netinst when network is not available? |
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| 09:05.47 | Digit | is devuan conf gonna have live streams to watch? |
| 09:06.23 | Digit | oop, asked too soon, just read down to that. yep. |
| 09:07.26 | hightower2 | yep |
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| 09:24.19 | tuxd3v | Hello Freedom lovers out there |
| 09:24.21 | tuxd3v | :) |
| 09:46.11 | fsmithred | is it still without audio, or do I have a problem here? |
| 09:46.43 | golinux | Where are you? |
| 09:47.01 | fsmithred | at Cor's |
| 09:47.24 | fsmithred | gonna leave here soon and come to bridge |
| 09:47.51 | golinux | Everyone is asking including parazyd |
| 09:48.02 | fsmithred | be about an hour |
| 09:48.05 | golinux | You feeling better? |
| 09:48.25 | fsmithred | a little. I slept well. |
| 09:48.27 | djph | "it'll be livestreamed...", well where? |
| 09:48.48 | fsmithred | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDpt2UweGoE&feature=youtu.be |
| 09:49.18 | djph | yay |
| 09:49.27 | fsmithred | um, ok. Maybe I'm not really awake. I was just looking for my laptop to put it in the bag., |
| 09:50.15 | djph | friday april 6 2019 <-- uh guys, you're off by a day ... |
| 09:52.38 | parazyd | djph: #devuan-conf |
| 09:52.43 | parazyd | See /topic |
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| 09:56.10 | djph | heh, i actually meant to paste that in a different window :| |
| 09:56.17 | djph | where'd me coffee go |
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| 10:00.48 | fsmithred | oh, I pasted the wrong link. Use this one instead: https://www.youtube.com/dyneorg/live |
| 10:01.16 | fsmithred | on my way... |
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| 10:41.37 | premoboss | hi, i use the last version of devuan on amd4. everytime i start devuan, no audio present. i must go to pulseaudio control, turn of internal audio and then set the volume level i want. the problem is the system dont take memory of changes an i have to do every time i turn on the system. hany help? |
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| 10:48.01 | plasma41 | premoboss: The internals of pulseaudio are anything but simple. I wish I could help, but unfortunately that's outside my area of expertise. |
| 10:59.12 | Digit | regrets he'll be asleep before he gets a stream download set up... will have to catch it later |
| 11:00.16 | specing | Can't you people just build stuff without pulseaudio? |
| 11:01.38 | djph | heh, they're too busy de-systemd-ifying the whole mess. pulse is next |
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| 11:06.11 | specing | there was an interesting proposal a few weeks ago: to have Gentoo's portage operate on top of debian source packages |
| 11:07.06 | plasma41 | specing: Where was this? |
| 11:07.27 | specing | in one of the gentoo channels |
| 11:08.45 | specing | I personally think portage needs a redesign, just resolving dependencies on my gentoo systems takes north of 15 minutes (core2duo) |
| 11:09.16 | Digit | wonders ... paludis |
| 11:09.33 | specing | right |
| 11:09.59 | specing | there are two replacemtns for portage: paludis and pkgcore |
| 11:10.11 | specing | but so far ... portage is yet to be replaced |
| 11:10.14 | specing | >_> |
| 11:14.25 | Digit | "ERROR: m3u8 download detected but ffmpeg or avconv could not be found. Please install one." gentoo's installing it! gentoo's installing it! calm down youtube-dl! it'll be ready when it's ready. ;3 |
| 11:14.55 | Digit | i am still fond of portage tho. :) |
| 11:15.34 | Digit | more fond of it than any other. (tho the stuff guix gets up to is worth investigating) |
| 11:16.32 | plasma41 | Guix is pretty cool. I've been meaning to try it out. |
| 11:17.50 | Digit | a novel accompanyment to any distro. |
| 11:18.32 | specing | Digit: it used to be that ./configure took the longest, now its dependencies > configure > compile |
| 11:19.39 | specing | with exceptions of some C++ shits (libreoffice, kicad, firefox), compile time is <30% total time |
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| 11:20.00 | premoboss | plasma41, ok no prob. |
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| 11:31.17 | golinux | specing wrote: Can't you people just build stuff without pulseaudio? |
| 11:31.39 | golinux | Do you want to be that person? |
| 11:32.26 | specing | dunno, I haven't yet decided whether to switch to devuan or centos or continue suffering on gentoo |
| 11:33.43 | plasma41 | avoid centos if you want to avoid systemd |
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| 11:38.31 | specing | plasma41: centos has something devuan doesen't: SELinux |
| 11:39.33 | MinceR | good thing devuan doesn't have that |
| 11:39.41 | specing | why MinceR ? |
| 11:39.44 | MinceR | extra bloat in the name of "security", carrying its own risks |
| 11:39.45 | plasma41 | really? I just assumed SELinux was in Debian |
| 11:40.06 | MinceR | afaik it was already discovered to have at least one vulnerability which a SELinux-less system wouldn't have |
| 11:40.36 | MinceR | and to top it off, (almost?) nobody can write a policy for it |
| 11:40.48 | MinceR | iirc even red hat's distros had policy issues even though it's their thing |
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| 11:45.16 | detha | MinceR: selinux is pretty magic. And against 1 vuln, I have been able to say 'haha, doesn't affect my C6 boxes because of selinux, patching can wait until normal scheduled downtime' many times. |
| 11:46.16 | detha | (and writing policies is pretty simple nowadays. It was an issue in the early days, when tooling was primitive) |
| 11:47.02 | specing | I'm impressed by SELinux |
| 11:47.15 | specing | try rooting >5.0.0 android phones |
| 11:47.43 | specing | go to xda developers and you'll see how rooting-by-exploit drops after SELinux was introduced |
| 11:48.57 | specing | it works and it works well |
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| 12:04.57 | MinceR | in that case, i can recommend rHELL to you |
| 12:05.06 | MinceR | it has more of these intricate and beautiful complexities :> |
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| 12:08.42 | detha | Heh. There are two things wrong with RHEL: systemd, and the fact that towards EOL of a release the base packages become really ancient. |
| 12:12.08 | djph | detha: so, the same problems that Debian has these days :) |
| 12:13.07 | plasma41 | "towards EOL of a release the base packages become really ancient" -- that's true of every LTS distro |
| 12:13.26 | detha | Only half. RH has a pretty hard policy of 'No major version bumps in any package' |
| 12:14.47 | detha | And because RH attempts to be a 'stable' distribution, they already start with old-ish packages every release |
| 12:15.42 | sxpert | there are 2 versions of debian... "stale" and "usable" |
| 12:20.10 | MinceR | interesting method of getting to a "stable" distribution, building it all on a piece of software that isn't even nearly mature and probably never will |
| 12:20.17 | MinceR | be |
| 12:22.59 | detha | It works. Until they started giving in to the 'we need newer packages' cries, in >10 years RH/centos I have only had one case where an upgrade broke prod |
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| 12:25.16 | MinceR | yeah, except when it just doesn't |
| 12:25.33 | MinceR | like when it freezes on shutdown, or when it forgets to start a service or two at boot |
| 12:25.46 | MinceR | or it waits for some network resource or filesystem forever at boot |
| 12:26.17 | MinceR | i don't know how anyone gets to call a distro release that ships with systemd "stable" with a straight face |
| 12:28.19 | detha | That would be 7.x. We have never put 7 in prod, and even 6 can be made unstable by using SCL stuff. |
| 12:28.56 | MinceR | :> |
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| 13:02.40 | jelly | plasma41: yes and no. RH care about some select packages, you |
| 13:03.06 | jelly | will always have latest lvm and device-mapper even on EL6 or EL5 if you keep it up to date |
| 13:03.31 | jelly | Canonical push Firefox release branch into LTS. |
| 13:03.33 | jelly | etc. |
| 13:04.53 | jelly | and both have customers that nag if things break |
| 13:05.44 | jelly | detha: "no major version bumps" really means "we'll introduce new features going from 2.101 to 2.103" |
| 13:08.19 | detha | true. different upstreams have different ideas about what a point version means |
| 13:09.11 | MinceR | most customers seem to be OK with broken things |
| 13:09.27 | MinceR | especially apple and microsoft customers |
| 13:09.27 | detha | RH tries to stick to 'if it worked on x.0, it should still work unchanged on x.15 |
| 13:11.49 | detha | Which is a good thing for systems that are certified at 'Using ELx, OS needs to be kept patched, any changes to app means re-certification' |
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| 14:29.04 | SigmaTel | Hello! I have a problem with "nvidia-driver" in Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 (amd64, kernel version 4.9.0-8). In the beginning of the init process I get error message from udevd: "Error running install command for nvidia". Is there a way to resolve it? |
| 14:30.40 | SigmaTel | My GPU is NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050. |
| 14:32.42 | gnarface | SigmaTel: just a guess but maybe you're missing the linux-headers-amd64 package (or linux-headers-i386, depending) |
| 14:33.14 | SigmaTel | gnarface: linux-headers-amd64 for this kernel is present and installed. |
| 14:35.03 | ashleyk | yo yo yo |
| 14:35.27 | ashleyk | ubuntu 18.10 seems to detect the network card on this intel NUC, but devuan ascii netinstall couldnt |
| 14:35.48 | ashleyk | wat do |
| 14:36.12 | plasma41 | ashleyk: What's the pci id of the nic? |
| 14:36.15 | SigmaTel | Does netinstaller request firmware or else? |
| 14:36.25 | ashleyk | plasma41, let me check |
| 14:37.27 | gnarface | SigmaTel: anything else to that error from nvidia-driver? |
| 14:37.56 | ashleyk | 00:1F.6 I219-V Rev30 |
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| 14:38.54 | SigmaTel | gnarface: It does start up nvidia-drm afterwards. |
| 14:39.40 | SigmaTel | udevd's error with nvidia module is the first message during init process. |
| 14:40.16 | plasma41 | ashleyk: what's the hexidecimal Vender_ID:Product_ID from the output of the `lspci -nn` command? |
| 14:40.22 | gnarface | SigmaTel: is nouveau not blacklisted? |
| 14:41.09 | ashleyk | plasma41, 8086:15be ? |
| 14:41.12 | SigmaTel | It is blacklisted. |
| 14:41.49 | SigmaTel | glxinfo -i says "X Error of failed request: BadValue". |
| 14:43.10 | gnarface | all this should work |
| 14:43.26 | gnarface | dunno what you meant about nvidia-drm though, i don't have that here |
| 14:43.47 | gnarface | i don't think that's the part we're overlooking here though |
| 14:45.01 | gnarface | can you think of anything else weird about the hardware or the install? |
| 14:45.19 | SigmaTel | I have fresh installation of Devuan. |
| 14:45.51 | gnarface | hmm. i wonder if that 1050 is actually new enough you need the backports kernel and nvidia-drivers |
| 14:46.12 | SigmaTel | http://pics.rsh.ru/img/IMG_20190405_171516739_19shlywg.jpg |
| 14:46.17 | gnarface | i wouldn't have expected the hardware to fail though |
| 14:46.23 | gnarface | er, the install command |
| 14:46.30 | gnarface | i would expect it to error later |
| 14:46.59 | SigmaTel | It errors right after the startup. |
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| 14:47.34 | gnarface | anything in dmesg? |
| 14:47.49 | SigmaTel | That *is* dmesg. |
| 14:47.56 | plasma41 | ashleyk: Those are the IDs I need. Unfortunately I can't find reference to that nic in the h-node.org database. |
| 14:48.37 | gnarface | SigmaTel: sorry i didn't look at your jpg. i can't be that cavalier about what i click on. try instagram |
| 14:49.06 | SigmaTel | I don't use Instagram, I don't need it. |
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| 14:54.53 | plasma41 | ashleyk: What kernel version are you running? |
| 14:56.10 | ashleyk | plasma41, 4.18.0-17-generic March 13 2019 |
| 14:56.37 | plasma41 | hrm |
| 14:57.57 | ashleyk | anyway, im up and running...may just have to roll with this because of time constraints |
| 15:00.18 | ashleyk | oh...while im thinking about it.... |
| 15:00.55 | ashleyk | what is the deal with having ethernet and wifi both connected to the same network/subnet, and why cant i ever get it to work right (especially dhcp makes the devices start trading ip addresses @_@) |
| 15:01.22 | SigmaTel | gnarface: What do I have to do with this udevd error? |
| 15:01.26 | ashleyk | seems like dhcp renew responses come into the wrong network |
| 15:01.32 | ashleyk | device* |
| 15:02.22 | ashleyk | originally i was going to force a setup where ifplugd will make only one active at a time (plug in wifi adapter and ethernet shuts off), but this new board has both wifi and ethernet at all times, so no option to limit it that way |
| 15:02.59 | gnarface | SigmaTel: no idea, just based on the information you've given me, but to be clear, i haven't seen the jpg |
| 15:04.24 | ashleyk | are there nightly install images with newer kernels i should try though, before i ...deploy ubuntu |
| 15:05.04 | gnarface | ashleyk: backports |
| 15:05.15 | SigmaTel | sighs |
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| 15:05.45 | ashleyk | gnarface, what does that mean |
| 15:06.21 | gnarface | ashleyk: there are newer kernels available in ascii-backports, along with newer mesa, nvidia-drivers, and several other things. threatening to install ubuntu won't get you a different suggestion. |
| 15:06.45 | buZz | > 17:00:55 < ashleyk> what is the deal with having ethernet and wifi both connected |
| 15:06.47 | ashleyk | no, i already installed ubuntu, i just dont have a lot of time |
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| 15:06.56 | buZz | if you do so, you get two default routes for the same network |
| 15:06.57 | plasma41 | ashleyk: http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ceres/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso might be worth a shot |
| 15:07.01 | buZz | over two different interfaces |
| 15:07.13 | ashleyk | plasma41, thanks |
| 15:08.00 | ashleyk | buZz, i just know its screwy and..i dont know if there is a way to fix it...slackware didn't seem to have the problem but i cant figure out why |
| 15:08.10 | buZz | ashleyk: wicd is really nice for network interface management , imho |
| 15:08.21 | buZz | it can disconnect wifi on eth connection, at least |
| 15:08.24 | ashleyk | my software writes /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:08.27 | buZz | probably also the reverse |
| 15:08.38 | gnarface | SigmaTel: did you install nvidia-kernel-dkms? there might still be missing nvidia-* packages |
| 15:08.41 | buZz | oh ok, wicd actually manages the interfaces |
| 15:08.54 | ashleyk | buZz, yeah, i need programmatic control... |
| 15:09.00 | buZz | yes, wicd is a program :P |
| 15:09.04 | gnarface | SigmaTel: (nvidia-kernel-dkms is the thing that needs linux-headers-amd64) |
| 15:09.45 | SigmaTel | It depends on nvidia-driver, so it it installed. |
| 15:09.52 | SigmaTel | it is* |
| 15:10.11 | gnarface | and linux-headers-amd64 was already installed before that? |
| 15:10.25 | ashleyk | is this normal? This server could not prove that it is deb.devuan.org; its security certificate is from sledjhamr.org. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. |
| 15:10.32 | SigmaTel | Yep, for 4.9.0-8 amd64. |
| 15:10.49 | gnarface | ashleyk: their https is messed up i think |
| 15:10.54 | ashleyk | k |
| 15:11.02 | SigmaTel | Maybe I need CUDA thing installed also? |
| 15:11.35 | plasma41 | I think sledjhamr.org is one of the mirrors in the round-robin |
| 15:12.12 | ashleyk | all good, im downloading |
| 15:12.52 | SigmaTel | I notice that nvidia-driver-libs-nonglvnd is installed but the nvidia-driver-libs. |
| 15:14.16 | ashleyk | buZz, do you know what directive or rule i need to prevent that?... |
| 15:14.57 | ashleyk | like whatever wicd is doing, i should be able to do it manually.....somehow |
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| 15:15.20 | buZz | to prevent what? |
| 15:15.22 | buZz | setting a route? |
| 15:15.44 | ashleyk | whatever is causing screwyness when ethernet and wifi are dhcp on the same network subnet |
| 15:16.01 | buZz | screwyness? it should cause any issues |
| 15:16.04 | buZz | shouldnt* |
| 15:16.11 | buZz | what exact issues are you seeing? |
| 15:16.37 | ashleyk | the most obvious one is that when a dhcp renew happens (lease expires) the devices will either get new ips or trade ips |
| 15:16.39 | buZz | you cant prevent 'whatever' , you need to define what you want :P |
| 15:16.43 | ashleyk | so wlan will switch ips with eth0 |
| 15:16.48 | buZz | ashleyk: thats a dhcp server config |
| 15:16.59 | buZz | it should be giving the -same- leases to the -same- mac addresses |
| 15:17.06 | ashleyk | is it? or is the renew response coming into the wrong device |
| 15:17.07 | buZz | and not flip them around willynilly |
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| 15:17.12 | ashleyk | ah..hrm... |
| 15:17.22 | ashleyk | so it could be my router being dumb |
| 15:17.29 | buZz | could be, yeah |
| 15:17.39 | ashleyk | or my dhclient |
| 15:17.44 | buZz | no |
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| 15:22.06 | ashleyk | buZz, see what this guy says, but of course he doesnt expound on it: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/6104-network-manager-woes/?do=findComment&comment=46901 |
| 15:22.23 | ashleyk | regarding /etc/network/interfaces: "It's not complicated if you know what you are doing, if you know where to get info (i.e. reading man pages over who knows how old tutorials) and know what to expect from it, especially if you have 2 interfaces (i.e. wired+wireless) connected to the same network." |
| 15:22.53 | buZz | ashleyk: i dont get wtf that forumthread is about |
| 15:23.30 | buZz | my best tip would be ; never use NetworkManager , its -hell- |
| 15:23.34 | buZz | and dumb as f |
| 15:24.24 | ashleyk | oh yeah i know... im going to find out if its just my dhcp server causing the issue as soon as possible, i dont want to use anything other than e/n/i |
| 15:25.44 | ashleyk | ok trying this mini.iso on the intel nuc to see if i can run devuan within my time constraints |
| 15:29.27 | ashleyk | yup! this mini.iso detected the network, and also told me which firmware was missing for the wifi! thanks |
| 15:32.58 | ashleyk | it says it cant find kernel modules, but im going to install it anyway and see what happens |
| 15:36.38 | ashleyk | gnarface, well, it cant detect a disk drive because of missing kernel modules...so at least it had ethernet... |
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| 15:43.18 | gnarface | ashleyk: do you know about backports? |
| 15:44.06 | ashleyk | gnarface, not really |
| 15:44.38 | gnarface | ashleyk: i didn't recommend them because it was stupid to do so |
| 15:44.56 | gnarface | ashleyk: let me rephrase that: i wouldn't have recommended them if i didn't think it would work |
| 15:46.15 | gnarface | if ubuntu is working, it's highly unlikely to have anything to do with anything other than their newer kernel |
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| 15:46.24 | gnarface | which is something you can get from backports instead |
| 15:46.31 | gnarface | but only you can decide to do that |
| 15:47.21 | ashleyk | well the mini iso worked to detect the network card, but it says it couldnt find the kernel modules (in general) and couldnt detect the disk drive |
| 15:47.58 | ashleyk | i guess im not sure how 'backports' is going to help me install |
| 15:48.27 | ashleyk | or id have to install from DVD image, and then copy backports files via flash drive to get online? |
| 15:48.54 | gnarface | you could complete the netinstall without a network connection, then just copy the newer kernel package and related dependencies over manually |
| 15:48.59 | gnarface | with a usb key or whatever |
| 15:49.03 | gnarface | or the wifi |
| 15:49.11 | gnarface | or another external ethernet device |
| 15:49.20 | gnarface | since you're here in IRC i assume you have a working network connection |
| 15:50.20 | gnarface | or i dunno, maybe that's all too complicated and you'd just be happier running ubuntu. i really don't think so, and in fact i think having to pretend it does might damage your brain permanently. but that's your choice to make |
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| 15:51.58 | ashleyk | id rather not run ubuntu, but i dont really have a lot of time to try different things. i didnt know i could finish netinstall without internet |
| 15:52.15 | gnarface | yea it will still leave you with a bootable system if you complete all the steps |
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| 15:52.55 | ashleyk | at that point if i had to i could just compile my own kernel |
| 15:52.58 | gnarface | the only thing it couldn't detect was your ethernet right? |
| 15:53.24 | gnarface | if so, it should boot |
| 15:53.32 | ashleyk | though id have to install lots of crap to compile. heh. well as far as i know the stock ascii netboot iso just complained about ethernet, i didnt go further |
| 15:53.47 | ashleyk | ill try it |
| 15:55.54 | gnarface | what kernel version was that ubuntu using? |
| 15:56.44 | ashleyk | 4.18.0-17-generic |
| 15:56.55 | gnarface | backports has something similar |
| 15:57.02 | ashleyk | yeah the ascii netinstall found the disk, so im installing without ethernet and then ill see what i need to do |
| 15:57.37 | ashleyk | looking for my usb ethernet adapter in the meantime |
| 15:58.18 | gnarface | heh, yea you should have listed that amongst your assets far sooner than now |
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| 16:01.34 | gnarface | ashleyk: do you not actually have wireless? the wifi might be easier to get running in that thing with the stock kernel. |
| 16:01.40 | gnarface | (usually this isn't the case though) |
| 16:06.37 | ashleyk | gnarface, heh yeah, i was just thinking if the hardware isnt supported by the installer then probably it isnt supported at all yet, but, i found my usb ethernet. the system does have wifi but its an intel iw9000 or something so, i bet the usb might be easier |
| 16:07.10 | gnarface | the usb device might be easier. but the wifi device should work with the stock kernel and the firmware-iwlwifi package, afaik |
| 16:07.11 | ashleyk | https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/911828-REG/asus_90_xb3k00ex00000_accy_02_usb2_hub.html |
| 16:07.22 | ashleyk | ok ill know in a few minutes, brb |
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| 16:10.27 | ashleyk | yeah onboard wifi and ethernet not detected, but usb device came up right away as enx923402384098234 |
| 16:10.52 | ashleyk | cool, so i can just compile my own kernel if worst comes to worst |
| 16:11.04 | gnarface | yes, but the backports kernel probably will work |
| 16:11.18 | gnarface | for the wireless you probably need firmware-iwlwifi, which may or may not also have to come from backports |
| 16:13.02 | ashleyk | ok, so...i put it in e/n/i and i am online now. so, do i just uncomment backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list or w/e? |
| 16:13.13 | ashleyk | ive never done this before |
| 16:13.49 | gnarface | yes, first uncomment them |
| 16:13.55 | gnarface | then re-run "apt-get update" |
| 16:14.16 | gnarface | then, you'll have to add "-t ascii-backports" to any further commands where you want to use them |
| 16:14.26 | gnarface | it is recommended to just get what you need then comment it out again |
| 16:14.57 | ashleyk | awesome thanks |
| 16:15.00 | ashleyk | im doing it now |
| 16:15.14 | gnarface | so like "apt-get update && apt-get -t ascii-backports install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 firmware-iwlwifi" |
| 16:15.37 | gnarface | if you plan on using opengl and that thing doesn't have a nvidia card, you'll probably want to get mesa from backports too |
| 16:15.52 | ashleyk | nah i dont need graphics |
| 16:15.52 | gnarface | but probably not anything else |
| 16:16.02 | ashleyk | hah, first problem. /etc/apt/sources.list only has CDROM |
| 16:16.25 | gnarface | there's example backports lines in here https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:16.32 | gnarface | actually example every line |
| 16:16.39 | ashleyk | ok great thats what i need |
| 16:17.27 | gnarface | http://paste.debian.net/1076317/ |
| 16:17.35 | gnarface | here is an example of what your sources.list should look like without backports |
| 16:17.40 | gnarface | just append the 2 backports lines to that |
| 16:17.49 | gnarface | but again, comment them back out when you're done |
| 16:18.11 | ashleyk | thanks a lot, with any luck ill be good to go soon |
| 16:18.19 | gnarface | good luck |
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| 16:25.46 | tuxd3v | Hello freedom lovers out there |
| 16:25.53 | tuxd3v | Good Afternoon |
| 16:26.21 | unixman | Good morning. |
| 16:27.59 | ashleyk | gnarface, it worked, thank you :) |
| 16:28.10 | gnarface | you're welcome |
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| 20:47.57 | Digit | wakes, turns on the stream, wonders if he missed it |
| 20:56.08 | ashleyk | Digit, tomorrow |
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| 20:57.04 | fleeky | anyone here tried installing rocket.chat on devuan |
| 20:57.05 | Digit | the site says "Starting: Friday, April 5th 2019, 13:00 CEST"... so, was today just people hanging around chatting? |
| 20:57.18 | ashleyk | Digit, seems so |
| 20:57.26 | fleeky | rocket.chat has a debian guide for installing but i am unsure if it would translate to devuan or not |
| 20:58.59 | ashleyk | it should |
| 20:59.10 | ashleyk | just not the systemd stuff |
| 21:02.38 | ashleyk | fleeky, and i guess some people today would use the "docker image" |
| 21:02.41 | ashleyk | whatever that is |
| 21:03.46 | fleeky | fuck a docker image :) |
| 21:03.54 | fleeky | alright well ill just see if it translates ,, |
| 21:03.55 | ashleyk | :D |
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| 21:29.06 | _abc_ | Hi. Is there any devuan vs debian choice advantage in choosing a lamp / lampp stack to install on devuan ascii? |
| 21:31.11 | Digit | so, i'm guessing the stream's started back on a loop...? or is this still live? |
| 21:32.28 | ashleyk | Digit, nothing is live...heh do you not know how to tell if something is live on youtube? |
| 21:32.58 | ashleyk | the day zero video says 4 hours old |
| 21:33.07 | ashleyk | and its 40 minutes long |
| 21:33.31 | Digit | ah. i rarely look at youtube. i just plug the youtube urls into mpv |
| 21:33.38 | ashleyk | if it was live and you scrolled all the way right, it would show a red thing tht says Live |
| 21:33.43 | ashleyk | ah |
| 21:34.09 | Digit | idk where the 40mins comes from... what i'm seeing is over 2h |
| 21:34.41 | ashleyk | the 4 day old one? |
| 21:35.07 | Digit | just toggled to this 20m ago, and was watching the prior for something near an hour before they switched stream. |
| 21:35.08 | ashleyk | https://www.youtube.com/user/DyneOrg/videos |
| 21:35.26 | ashleyk | hmmm, not sure...i dont see anything |
| 21:36.04 | Digit | https://www.youtube.com/dyneorg/live is what i plugged into mpv. was https://youtu.be/Wqn9g08SvU8 when it started, now https://youtu.be/J_8v9tEhcWY |
| 21:36.25 | ashleyk | yeah thats from april 1st |
| 21:36.30 | Digit | nothing much happening but mulling around and prep... looks like a talks about to start tho.. looks like it might indeed be the morning. |
| 21:36.37 | Digit | hrm |
| 21:39.07 | Digit | okies. as you first said then. :/ "tomorrow" |
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| 21:40.44 | ashleyk | Digit, #devuan-conf |
| 21:45.20 | Digit | thanks. (tho methinks could have done with mention of that chan in https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/d1conf-announce-20190119 ( https://devuan.org/d1conf ) or in the topic here) |
| 21:45.35 | Digit | oops! i missed it is in the topic here. |
| 21:45.44 | Digit | gets breakfast |
| 21:49.41 | _abc_ | What's #devuan-conf ? |
| 21:52.00 | gnarface | _abc_: devuan conference channel |
| 21:52.02 | Digit | a conference happening this weekend for the distribution of gnu/linux whos chan you're in. |
| 21:52.18 | _abc_ | ok |
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