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00:01.31obarunjust for information for people interested to run s6 and s6-rc as init and service manager, i created a convenient tools to easily implement s6 and s6-rc on every linux system -> https://framagit.org/obarun/66.git
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02:58.10HypertablesI still get errors if I do `apt-get -o Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories=true update` ... are there any flags I can set that will bypass the hash sum errors?
03:13.41gnarfaceHypertables: i really think you need to figure out what non-devuan package is sabotaging the check, and then uninstall it.  that's my best guess
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03:20.01gnarfaceif you had used backports before, you could have one of them blocking an important upgrade, too
03:22.44gnarface(there may be a way to actually override the hash sum errors, but i don't know it off the top of my head and i suspect it would just make this situation worse anyway)
03:33.26Jjp137hm I actually installed apt-file to check it out and I'm getting a ton of hash sum errors too
03:34.17Jjp137but if you don't use apt-file, then I guess the Contents.gz files don't mean much, and you should still be able to install packages, I think?
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03:38.56Jjp137okay after experimenting some more, you're fetching the Contents files b/c apt-file is installed, which uses them
03:39.11Jjp137however, for some reason, the hashes don't match
03:39.41Jjp137a workaround if you don't use apt-file is to purge it (you can't just remove it, b/c apt-file comes with a config file that tells apt to fetch Contents files)
03:40.10Jjp137if you do use apt-file, then uh...I don't know then
03:55.06Jjp137although the InRelease file seems to have updated and I don't get hash sum errors anymore
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04:37.11gnarfacehmm. i do remember there being a problem with apt-file that appeared quite some time ago that i never checked back on
04:37.23gnarfacethat might be a very old issue
04:37.42gnarfaceor related to it
04:54.28Jjp137it's just odd that the hashes didn't match at some point
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06:54.03jellythat points to broken mirror
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06:55.33jellyQ: (how) does devuan track jessie-lts, and how is security managed for customized software?
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07:25.47jellyand by customized I mean "changed compared to Debian"
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09:25.28xrogaanHypertables: no, I get the errors too
09:25.40xrogaanit's as you said, something's borked with the repo
09:26.00xrogaansummons KatolaZ
09:26.42xrogaanHypertables: or was broken
09:26.46xrogaanseems fine now
09:27.49xrogaanunsummon KatolaZ
09:27.54xrogaan(sorry)
09:30.17KatolaZxrogaan: ?
09:30.28KatolaZwhich errors?
09:31.36xrogaanEarlier in this channel (before I went to sleep) we talked about it. Basically hashsum mismatch between what's in the in InRelease file and the listed files.
09:31.42xrogaanSeems to be resolved now.
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09:32.59KatolaZxrogaan: you must have hit the exact time when the InRelease files were synced
09:33.18xrogaanwell, I didn't find the error, Hypertables did.
09:33.48xrogaanThen we tried to resolve the issue for a while, downloaded the Content file and verified the hash didn't match.
09:33.53xrogaanThen after purging my /var/lib/apt/lists, it went: https://paste.debian.net/1076616/
09:34.16xrogaanbut now it's fine.
09:34.18KatolaZxrogaan: you should be careful with hashes
09:34.29KatolaZthere are both md5 and sha256
09:34.38KatolaZand there are a lot of Contents files in the repo
09:34.46KatolaZlet apt do the job :)
09:34.50xrogaanexpected: SHA256:a958a8acee49af960759f7533231b075d184fa8ee7d708764b022d33c1d29e8f; received: SHA256:75acef3458d85396d38b730213b0fe801508a961f4d30495cfa585b8318ccf95
09:35.29xrogaanKatolaZ: just saying, there was an issue _with the repo_ and now there isn't.
09:35.53KatolaZxrogaan: is there a pastebin of the apt error somewhere?
09:36.05xrogaanI just linked it
09:36.29xrogaanyou might also try the irc logs and look for Hypertables's
09:37.09KatolaZok xrogaan
09:37.15KatolaZthat's just Contents files getting updated
09:37.27KatolaZthey are updated once a week, on the night between Sunday and Monday
09:37.34KatolaZcan't remember the exact time
09:37.48xrogaandoes it take long for them to get synced?
09:38.03KatolaZmaybe
09:38.07KatolaZthey are quite large
09:38.30xrogaanbetween Hypertables reporting the error and me clearing my apt cache, there's been a good hour.
09:39.00KatolaZhad they tried again in the meanwhile?
09:39.39KatolaZi.e., issuing `apt-get update`?
09:39.53xrogaanseems so: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/_devuan.2019-04-08.log.html#t2019-04-08T04:58:10
09:40.53xrogaanvery slow sync, or the sync failed somehow.
09:41.20xrogaanand then got restarted?
09:41.22xrogaanIDK
09:41.44KatolaZshrugs
09:42.44xrogaanamazon's cdn got very slow maybe?
09:43.01xrogaansorry, I looked at the wrong terminal
09:43.14KatolaZxrogaan: we are not using any amazon CDN...
09:43.15xrogaan*not* amazon, devuan
09:43.30KatolaZwe are not using any external CDN
09:43.45KatolaZit's a bunch of mirrors behind a DNS round-robin
09:44.27xrogaanIsn't the round robin world wide? That's kind of what a CDN is, right?
09:44.44xrogaanIf you remove all the marketing BS from the existing powerhouses.
09:45.54xrogaanAnyhow, the InRelease file got updated roughly a day after: Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 03:26:56 UTC
09:46.36xrogaanWhile files with this date had issue: Release file created at: Sun, 07 Apr 2019 21:05:34 +0000
10:31.01dethaxrogaan: in a proper CDN, DNS is only used sparingly for steering, and node selection is done by anycast
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14:42.39EvilhamExactly :-)
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23:51.26AchyllesI am trying to recompile a devuan distro through refractasnapshot. I have mate desktop and Xfce4 and stumpwm as DEs and TW. In my snap, I would like to exclude Mate. How do I write this procedure in my /usr/lib/refracta-exclude.conf ?
23:53.03AchyllesI cannot see an example there, but only removing folders examples --> -# /home/$user/Music/*  and etc...
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