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| 06:53.06 | fonky | hi all |
| 06:53.53 | fonky | what is the alternative to the command systemd-resolve --status ? |
| 06:53.59 | fonky | im trying out stubby |
| 06:54.17 | fonky | and only found some info online that deals with systemd sadly |
| 06:54.30 | fonky | do i need a resolver like bind9? |
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| 06:54.38 | fonky | sorry dns server if i install stubby |
| 06:55.03 | fonky | or souch, if anyone willing to shed some light on the matter would be nice, ty in advance |
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| 06:56.45 | fonky | do i only run /etc/init.d/netoworking restart? |
| 07:05.47 | fonky | oh, and one more, the commands dig and nslookup |
| 07:05.49 | fonky | what package? |
| 07:06.08 | fonky | if anyone willing, ty in advance |
| 07:13.00 | zatumil | bind-dnsutils, generally you can apt-file search or use https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents for debian packages |
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| 07:18.18 | fonky | nevermind ty |
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| 10:12.18 | *** topic/#devuan is Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Jessie 1.0 old-stable, ASCII 2.1 stable) | | Conference (2019) https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/ | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ | take offtopic chat to #debianfork |
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| 10:47.19 | ukine | does "web server" in tasksel grab apache or nginx on stable, anybody know? |
| 10:53.38 | zatumil | apache2, https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii/task-web-server_3.39+devuan1.9.html |
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| 11:01.30 | ukine | ty zatumil |
| 11:02.14 | ukine | i was highly suspicious it was the tried and true apache2 but wasn't sure :] |
| 11:02.30 | ukine | like that option has been forever already |
| 11:02.38 | ukine | forever to me ;] |
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| 12:57.32 | beaglebonius | help |
| 12:58.37 | beaglebonius | which package contains the command "startx" ?? is there a way to look that up? |
| 12:59.09 | DNied | beaglebonius: apt-file search startx |
| 12:59.19 | beaglebonius | thank you |
| 13:00.12 | beaglebonius | apt-file is not available on my system... |
| 13:00.48 | DNied | beaglebonius: so install it... apt install apt-file |
| 13:01.05 | beaglebonius | thank you |
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| 13:23.38 | fsmithred | and then apt-file update |
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| 19:09.07 | Hum | How about naming the G release after 9965 GNU? Devuan GNU, a GNU/Linux Distribution?! ;) |
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| 19:10.39 | MinceR | :) |
| 19:10.45 | MinceR | sounds good to me |
| 19:13.09 | golinux_ | Maybe in another 10 years. If the internet still exists by then |
| 19:13.45 | golinux_ | (Nothing like being in the present) |
| 19:14.56 | MinceR | :> |
| 19:16.06 | Hum | In 10 years? What will happen to Debian, that they release more then 26 releases in such a short time? |
| 19:16.19 | Hum | ;) |
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| 20:17.37 | golinux_ | Hum: GNU would be 4 releases after Beowulf. At the rate we can get devuan out the door, it could take that long before we get there. |
| 20:19.05 | Hum | golinux_: Oh yes, you are right. |
| 20:19.50 | golinux_ | :) |
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| 21:57.15 | sauron- | hi, how do i disable hibernate and suspend from terminal? |
| 22:01.01 | Hurgotron | sauron-: pm-hibernate and pm-suspend |
| 22:07.57 | sauron- | Hurgotron what do i have to type to disable that? the man pm-hibernate doesnt tell |
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| 22:11.27 | Hurgotron | sauron-: Just the command, no parameters. |
| 22:12.00 | sauron- | used sudo pm-hibernate and went to hibernation |
| 22:12.24 | sauron- | thats what i want to disable |
| 22:12.27 | sixwheeledbeast | I don't believe there are options for that. You would have to control the commands with users and permissions. |
| 22:12.58 | Hurgotron | ah, disable... sorry, misread. |
| 22:13.19 | sauron- | in that case... how do i set in power do nothing when close screen in my laptop? |
| 22:13.21 | Hurgotron | Simply remove the commands? :) |
| 22:13.33 | Hurgotron | Energy management. |
| 22:13.38 | sixwheeledbeast | It's not just a simple one line command you will have to look into how to make those permissions and test them |
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| 22:53.36 | systemdlete2 | exim4 is supposed to work out of the box, for a minimalistic configuration? I run lsof and I don't see exim4 listening on ANYthing |
| 22:53.51 | Xenguy | haha |
| 22:54.01 | systemdlete2 | Trying to figure out what needs twiddling by looking at man pages, etc |
| 22:54.06 | Xenguy | Sorry, just laughing |
| 22:54.11 | systemdlete2 | no problem. |
| 22:54.21 | Xenguy | It should work out of the box... |
| 22:54.33 | Xenguy | And I'll stick my neck out and say... |
| 22:54.36 | systemdlete2 | I even ran dpkg-reconfigure |
| 22:55.23 | systemdlete2 | and say... |
| 22:55.24 | systemdlete2 | ??? |
| 22:55.25 | Xenguy | Although exim has always been the default MTA for Debian/Devuan, I absolutely preferred working with Postfix, having used both |
| 22:55.46 | systemdlete2 | yeah. Seems I normally end up removing exim4 and replacing it with postfix also |
| 22:55.58 | Xenguy | I don't know why they just didn't bite the bullet and replace the default with Postfix |
| 22:56.00 | systemdlete2 | OK, thanks for the reality check. |
| 22:56.09 | Xenguy | But whatever, that's life |
| 22:56.20 | systemdlete2 | that's linux |
| 22:56.27 | Xenguy | hah, yeh |
| 22:56.32 | systemdlete2 | well... |
| 22:56.41 | Xenguy | I don't want to hijack your thread though |
| 22:56.55 | Xenguy | You have a problem with exim it seems |
| 22:56.59 | systemdlete2 | actually, that's debian with systemd, after surgery to remove systemd |
| 22:57.07 | Xenguy | yep |
| 22:57.10 | systemdlete2 | yep |
| 22:57.17 | systemdlete2 | I hate this. |
| 22:57.30 | Xenguy | It's annoying, certainly |
| 22:57.41 | Xenguy | But not insurmountable |
| 22:57.48 | systemdlete2 | It doesn't end with just this package though... (right) |
| 22:57.52 | systemdlete2 | we have a workaround |
| 22:58.56 | Xenguy | Well share if you have something useful |
| 22:59.08 | systemdlete2 | just postfix, that's all |
| 22:59.20 | systemdlete2 | there might be another MTA out there, idk |
| 22:59.26 | Xenguy | Oh, OK, you move fast |
| 22:59.44 | systemdlete2 | Yes, I have learned to give up quickly with these things... |
| 23:00.02 | Xenguy | Postfix is top-notch, I really enjoyed using it, and it is supposedly designed with 'security' in mind |
| 23:00.20 | Xenguy | I trust it |
| 23:00.31 | systemdlete2 | Let's hope that postfix is systemd-proof |
| 23:00.43 | Xenguy | Good question |
| 23:00.59 | systemdlete2 | It's easy to configure and runs without problems; I agree. |
| 23:01.06 | Xenguy | Something tells me yes, but do your own research |
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| 23:28.13 | gnarface | systemdlete2: it's "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" |
| 23:28.30 | systemdlete2 | I did that. |
| 23:28.38 | gnarface | did it ask any questions? |
| 23:28.39 | systemdlete2 | But I have postfix working, thanks |
| 23:28.47 | gnarface | alright, nevermind then |
| 23:29.11 | systemdlete2 | (yes, it did. And I answered all of them with the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I swear I did.) |
| 23:30.03 | gnarface | you can imply what it listens on in there by specifying addresses |
| 23:30.44 | gnarface | if you ever actually need to get exim4 working, it's something i've studied |
| 23:31.07 | gnarface | it's very good actually but i admit i bought and read their book |
| 23:31.22 | gnarface | it's possible the whole thing won't make any sense whatsoever without reading the book |
| 23:31.49 | gnarface | but the upshot is that every problem i had with it before turned out to be me mistaking how it would treat the strings you feed to it in the dpkg-reconfigure fields |
| 23:32.23 | Xenguy | gnarface: Did you ever try Postfix? |
| 23:32.42 | Xenguy | Or are you happy with Exim? |
| 23:33.01 | gnarface | Xenguy: after sendmail, anything is better. (and yea, i read the sendmail book too, so it's an apples-to-apples comparison) |
| 23:33.22 | gnarface | Xenguy: but no, i didn't try postfix because i have a deep-seated fear of trusting a database with my mail |
| 23:33.35 | gnarface | Xenguy: i have heard it's much easier to set up though |
| 23:33.35 | Xenguy | That's very funny gnarface , thank you for that humor |
| 23:34.28 | Xenguy | I've seen that mention of concern re: database, perhaps it was you ; -) |
| 23:34.47 | gnarface | when postfix first came out it was a real cause of commotion |
| 23:34.58 | gnarface | that was considered quite a risk back then |
| 23:35.10 | Xenguy | All I know is that it is intentionally designed for (good) security, and it seemed to work like a charm when I tried it |
| 23:35.12 | gnarface | open source databases have admittedly improved a lot in the mean time... |
| 23:36.28 | Xenguy | Well as you mention, sendmail was the gold standard back in the day... |
| 23:36.42 | gnarface | yea but it was just all we had, really |
| 23:37.04 | Xenguy | There ya go, it was first, that's all |
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| 23:37.35 | Xenguy | Nowadays, I'm thinking Postfix or Exim, either/or |
| 23:37.41 | gnarface | the folks at The University of Cambridge did a really good job on exim4 but it's clear that it was invented in a university research lab |
| 23:37.52 | Xenguy | Can we talk about this stuff here? |
| 23:38.02 | gnarface | eh, we should take it to #debianfork probably |
| 23:38.10 | Xenguy | Sure, let's do |
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