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01:43.12stovepipehttps://archiveos.org/biebian/
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01:59.29golinuxHow is that a Devuan support question?
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02:39.36Weeezythat's an old picture of bieber
02:39.44Weeezyopenbox is a nice system tho
02:40.02Weeezynice de I should say
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08:44.14brocashelmanyone know how to work with veracrypt and libpam-tmpdir? trying to configure veracrypt so it can see where my mounted files/partitions are stored
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08:46.04brocashelmsince libpam-tmpdir mounts per-user, veracrypt can't see what's mounted (nor will it let you unmount, because there's "nothing" there)
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13:27.16ham5urgIs there any USB-to-USB cable which will simulate two connected rs232-ports?
13:28.16ham5urgusb-a  <---> usb-a
13:31.29gnarfacethey definitely make usb to serial adapters
13:31.49gnarfacei don't know any reason why you wouldn't be able to use two as a pair
13:31.57MinceRi connected 2 usb-serial adapters with a null modem cable and it worked fine
13:32.25gnarfacethough maybe you can do it with a normal usb cable too if you have the right software?
13:32.47ham5urgI hope to circumvent the need for two cables.
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13:33.37openbsdtai123it is a bit depressing that elvis is even not in the repositories. where is Unix ?  devuan is way too close to debian.
13:33.43ham5urgYes, maybe could the laptop simulate a serial-usb-cable if latpop and server are connected with a simple usb-cable
13:33.47openbsdtai123Once even less or cat will no longer be.
13:34.53yetiI've a cable that mimocs a usb-ethernet-interface on each side
13:35.07yetihas some stuff in the middle
13:36.02yetibut then you could use 2 standard usb eth adapters and a crossover cable between them
13:36.03MinceRi had one of those as well, but that is not rs232 :>
13:36.27MinceRalso, the null modem cable approach only requires 1 cable, unless your usb ports are obstructed
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13:36.48yeti2 CP2102 adapters cost near to nothing
13:37.02yetidont get ch340
13:37.21yetias soon as you have many, you want serial numbers in them
13:37.29MinceRi even needed to modify a kernel module source so that the revision of the chip i had in my usb host-to-host networking cable would be recognized
13:37.30yetiand ch340s cannot do that
13:38.17ham5urgyeti, you mean to solder two cp2102 with a cable between them?
13:38.35yetirx/tx crossed and gnd
13:40.06yetialways have some at hand or if you dont car for fakes, ft232r modules
13:40.18yetibut they may be a problem with windows
13:40.30yetiif you get clones instead of the original stuff
13:40.43ham5urgI will order a couple and correspondent aluminium housings
13:41.20yetianf look for cp210x-cfg
13:41.59yetihttps://github.com/DiUS/cp210x-cfg.git
13:42.14yetithat can change the eeproms of these chips
13:42.36yetiand if they are made different, udev rules can make different symlinks
13:42.51yetiso you can have like /dev/PI2-CONSOLE
13:43.04yetias symlinks to the real usb-serial
13:43.23yetihttp://hintshop.ludvig.co.nz/show/persistent-names-usb-serial-devices/
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13:43.43ham5urgyeti, you mean if cp2102 comes non-original I can tweak it with cp210x-cfg to behave like original?
13:44.00yetiI never had a problem with cp2102ers
13:44.11yetiFT232r can be fakes
13:45.57yetisudo /opt/cp210x-cfg/bin/cp210x-cfg -S $(date +@%s)
13:46.06yetiI set the uxtime as serial#
13:46.58ham5urgIf cp2102 works out of the box, I guess I wouldn't need use of cp210x-cfg.
13:47.14openbsdtai123now. I need java... how to install java on ascii amd64? there is no java in the apt-cache.
13:47.36yetiif you dont want to be able to distunguish the adapters if you have more than one... ok
13:47.40openbsdtai123apt-get install devfaul-jdk?
13:48.13openbsdtai123hi yeti, I can see on netbsd as well, right?
13:48.27yetiheisenbergs...
13:48.38ham5urgyeti, I see, if I plug multiple cp2102 into one machine, I would need to change their names.
13:49.27yetihaving a hint somwhere to cp210x-cfg's sources may save the day sometimes
13:49.47ham5urgyes
13:50.00yetilrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      7 Apr 27 07:43 /dev/ARDUINO-NANO-3.0-3 -> ttyUSB0
13:50.02yeticrw-rw---- 1 yeti yeti 188, 0 Apr 27 07:43 /dev/ttyUSB0
13:50.50yetithats a minion with a ft232r
13:51.21yetift232r ™should™ come with random serial number
13:51.33yetiso far I never had to change one
13:52.22yetibut lots of cheap adapters use the fake chips and ch2102 adapters are even cheaper than thee china-ft232-clones
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14:06.19openbsdtai123thank you
14:06.31openbsdtai123it seems to me that openrc is way faster than sysvinit.
14:08.08MinceRit probably runs rc scripts in parallel
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14:09.53yetifaster boot wouldnt pay back for me
14:11.43yetias long as i dint need a video player to have some distracion while the system slooowly boots...
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16:05.21ham5urgIs there a command to destroy all logical volumes, volume groups and physical volumes?
16:05.42ham5urgTo get rid of LVM
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16:34.06ham5urglvscan | sed -n 's/.*\(\(\/dev\/[-_a-z0-9]\+\)\/[-_a-z0-9]\+\).*/\2/p'
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17:01.49fsmithredham5urg, lvremove?
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17:37.49ham5urgfsmithred, is there a way to nuke all LVMs, MDs and partitions?
17:38.59ham5urgdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda is too slow
17:39.28MinceRyou could create a new partition table :>
17:39.42MinceR(but probably deactivate your LVM stuff first...)
17:39.48masonNew partition table won't work if it's the same partitions. The old metadata will still be found.
17:40.12masondd is really the right hammer for the job, unless you want to go through tool by tool erasing metadata
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17:41.54WafficusHi there, question about adding PPA's in Devua
17:41.56Wafficus*devuan
17:42.00WafficusI'm attempting to do the following command
17:42.03ham5urgmason, that's right. I hoped for somthing faster and equal easy
17:42.27Wafficussudo add-apt-repository ppa:morphis/anbox-support
17:42.34masonham5urg: If you use the right invocation for each tool that'd be faster, but a fair amount more work.
17:42.34Wafficusare ppa's in Devuan by default?
17:42.37Wafficus*available
17:43.00masonWafficus: There's no out of the box support for PPAs, and most will link against Ubuntu libraries.
17:43.12masonDevuan follows Debian in that realm.
17:43.14ham5urgWafficus, you cn add a repo by hand.
17:46.04WafficusI got it, you can also install the necessary kernels for Anbox with the common utilities
17:46.18Wafficusmy related question is since they ask to install anbox via snap
17:46.29Wafficuswhat is the correct 'snap' based package from 'apt' on Devuan?
17:46.45WafficusI ask because 'snap' is some DNA nucleotide program, and snapcast appears to be some media based program
17:46.51ham5urgbefore you install anbox, try if the kernel creates the needed devs in /dev/
17:47.04Wafficusyeah I followed their instructions
17:47.08masonWafficus: https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-debian
17:47.10Wafficusit was present in that /dev/ folder
17:47.13Wafficusthanks mason
17:47.23Wafficusah 'snapd'
17:47.25Wafficusgot it
17:47.30masonWafficus: Ah, it won't work: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
17:47.35masonsystemd dependencies at a guess
17:47.38Wafficusdang
17:47.40ham5urgYou don't want snapd I guess
17:47.55Wafficuswell
17:47.59WafficusI wanted to run an emulator of Android
17:48.01Wafficuslong story short
17:48.11Wafficusthere's an authenticator app for work that we have to use for Microsoft Authenticator
17:48.20WafficusI've been moving all of my work inside of a Devuan VM inside Windows 10
17:48.25Wafficusthat way it would make IT for work happy
17:48.28Wafficusbut me happy as well
17:48.32Wafficussince I really hate Windows
17:48.53Wafficusanyway, but yeah I wanted to run that stupid authenticator app in its own Android instance so I wouldn't have to use an android every time for that purpose
17:49.18ham5urgIt's better to have a VM for building anbox and copy the stuff over to your working VM
17:49.49ham5urgAt least in my case
17:52.25Wafficusham5urg: but if Anbox won't work in Devuan because of itself, or Snapd then its probably not going to beneficial in my use-case
17:52.37Wafficusunless I have to spawn like a second VM just with anbox on it or something
17:52.50golinuxI thought that snap was banned on devuan
17:52.58WafficusAt that point, it would be better as a Docker instance or something to limit the amount of VM's present
17:53.03Wafficusgolinux: yeah that's what was pointed out earlier
17:53.22golinuxhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
17:53.42golinuxDidn't read too carefully :p
17:54.03golinuxppas are not a good idea.
17:56.22ham5urgYou can use https://www.android-x86.org/ if anbox is hardwired to snap and systemd.
18:00.16fsmithredRepeat the force option (-ff) to forcibly remove LVs in the VG without confirmation.
18:00.46fsmithredvgremove VG -ff
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18:36.36brocashelmis there a way to make truecrypt/veracrypt mounting work with libpam-tmpdir?
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19:59.08Wafficusham5surg: would you have to install that via wine though?
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23:42.46Wafficushi there, can anyone please help me figure out sound on WINE for Wolfenstein Enemy Territory on Devuan?
23:43.12WafficusI'd like to utilize Alsa 32-bit version somehow, but installed "WINE" over 'apt' in Devuan
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23:46.10gnarfaceWafficus: you're on a amd64 system, right?  you need to enable multiarch first
23:46.30gnarfacethen the wine install will contain 32-bit and 64-bit components
23:46.38gnarfaceyou might still have to manually install a few extra 32-bit things
23:46.53gnarfaceusually when wine complains about a missing library it's easy to tell which one though
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23:51.14Wafficusyeah I'm on an AMD64 system, that's correct
23:51.22Wafficusidk if its complaining about missing a library though
23:51.27Wafficusits just that sound just doesn't work
23:51.29Wafficusotherwise
23:51.33Wafficusit looks like the game runs just fine
23:53.43gnarfacehmm, how'd you find one that's not even in the appdb?
23:53.53gnarfacei'm surprised it works at all
23:54.28gnarfacethe only other thing i could suggest is try changing the audio tab options in winecfg
23:54.51gnarfaceor alternately maybe a ~/.asoundrc customization of some sort, but i couldn't speculate on specifics
23:55.53gnarfaceto be clear, sound works in other stuff, right?  this isn't the first thing you've tested sound with, right?  believe it or not that's it's a common issue...

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