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| 00:02.53 | Wafficus | gnarface: I just flat out installed 'wine' |
| 00:02.55 | Wafficus | that's all I did |
| 00:03.03 | Wafficus | then I did "wine (name of installer)" |
| 00:03.05 | Wafficus | installed the game |
| 00:03.14 | Wafficus | boots up just fine when I navigate to Program Files (x86) |
| 00:03.38 | Wafficus | yeah sound works just fine |
| 00:03.40 | Wafficus | ALSA |
| 00:03.46 | Wafficus | works with Firefox and normal mpv usage just fine |
| 00:04.02 | Wafficus | I think you're right in that case to just have to utilize winecfg |
| 00:04.08 | Wafficus | would that be present in ~/.wine directory right? |
| 00:04.12 | Wafficus | rather I'd have to create it right? |
| 00:08.53 | gnarface | Wafficus: you have to pay more attention to which packages actually get installed. "wine" is just a meta-package that would have included one or more other packages. yes, by default the wine prefix is in ~/.wine but winecfg should have been put in your path actually |
| 00:11.08 | gnarface | Wafficus: https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Wineprefixes |
| 00:11.37 | gnarface | Wafficus: lots of good info on this page^ |
| 00:11.41 | Wafficus | cool thanks |
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| 00:49.10 | Wafficus | when I try to run winetricks, I'm getting the following error: https://termbin.com/h1yt |
| 00:49.26 | Wafficus | reason being is that there's a section in winetricks that only allows ALSA so I was looking to try that fix |
| 00:49.48 | Wafficus | does that mean I have to install Zenity in that case? Is that some sort of QT derivative for GUI programs? |
| 00:50.10 | gnarface | Wafficus: zenity is optional, something else is wrong, use paste.debian.net if you want me to actually look at the error |
| 00:50.42 | gnarface | Wafficus: also make sure you're using a current version of winetricks, they update it frequently https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks |
| 00:51.26 | Wafficus | gnarface: http://paste.debian.net/1158026/ |
| 00:51.37 | Wafficus | just installed it over 'apt' on Devuan |
| 00:52.54 | gnarface | Wafficus: "No arguments given" is the relevant error here |
| 00:53.14 | Wafficus | I thought you could just run winetricks |
| 00:53.15 | Wafficus | gotcha |
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| 00:53.46 | gnarface | Wafficus: if you have zenity, allegedly, but i've never tried it. from the command-line, it expects you to actually tell it what to do |
| 01:13.06 | Wafficus | yeah I tried that with winetricks even with zenity installed |
| 01:13.17 | Wafficus | the thing is it changed alsa in the audio registry settings |
| 01:13.19 | Wafficus | but still no sound |
| 01:13.21 | Wafficus | wonder why |
| 01:13.40 | Wafficus | clear |
| 01:13.43 | Wafficus | *sorry |
| 01:15.34 | gnarface | i dunno, i haven't tried getting this one working |
| 01:15.40 | gnarface | seems like there could be a lot of issues |
| 01:15.54 | gnarface | does other games' audio work in wine? |
| 01:19.42 | Wafficus | haven't tried to be honest |
| 01:19.49 | Wafficus | only wanted to install this one :/ |
| 01:20.03 | Wafficus | what's weird is that it worked on my other machine though moreso with my audio interface |
| 01:20.17 | Wafficus | just checked audio and YouTube via Firefox and MPV video locally worked just fine |
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| 01:20.29 | gnarface | wait, the same game worked in wine on a different machine? |
| 01:20.40 | gnarface | that's probably an important clue |
| 01:20.49 | gnarface | (and one you should have mentioned hours ago by the way) |
| 01:21.07 | Wafficus | the only thing is |
| 01:21.11 | Wafficus | I'm moving in about a week |
| 01:21.16 | Wafficus | so I packed away that desktop computer |
| 01:21.34 | Wafficus | aka I took out the video card so it wouldn't get destroyed since that's a classic LAN party move |
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| 01:22.34 | gnarface | then all that information does is expand the possibilities of places you fucked it up and add the extra possibility of a driver or hardware-specific problem |
| 01:23.10 | gnarface | if you want to figure this out your best chance is to figure out what's different about that machine's install |
| 01:23.18 | gnarface | if it's nothing, then you know the difference is in the audio driver itself |
| 01:23.49 | gnarface | (or in the audio hardware, if they're using the same exact version of the same exact driver) |
| 01:23.55 | Wafficus | I just remember installing it the same method, and it just working lol |
| 01:24.08 | gnarface | was it the same version kernel though? |
| 01:24.23 | gnarface | difference in kernel version could cause alsa regressions (and frequently do) |
| 01:24.29 | gnarface | but difference in wine versions is known for that as well |
| 01:25.05 | gnarface | and was the other machine also 64-bit, or was it a 32-bit base install? |
| 01:25.20 | Wafficus | hmm |
| 01:25.26 | Wafficus | eh they were both 64 bit machines |
| 01:25.28 | Wafficus | *are rather |
| 01:25.35 | Wafficus | both are i7 cpus |
| 01:25.43 | Wafficus | the other machine has its own separate video card |
| 01:25.52 | gnarface | unlikely to affect audio |
| 01:25.52 | Wafficus | this one has an integrated video card I'm assuming |
| 01:25.55 | Wafficus | yeah I know ha |
| 01:26.02 | Wafficus | just listing the obvious first before the nitty gritty |
| 01:26.09 | gnarface | check kernel and wine version differences |
| 01:26.11 | Wafficus | the only other thing I can think of is that the audio interface I setup for it |
| 01:26.29 | Wafficus | aka the focusrite scarlet 2nd gen |
| 01:26.32 | Wafficus | on the desktop machine |
| 01:26.48 | Wafficus | i would but the desktops already packed up :/ |
| 01:28.05 | Wafficus | it looks like based on Arch's installation, you gotta configure it to use 32 bit ALSA |
| 01:28.10 | Wafficus | but idk about the Devuan variant |
| 01:28.14 | Wafficus | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97655 |
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| 01:56.08 | gnarface | Wafficus: was it an older version of wine? wine is known for regressions but also they changed the default wine prefix creation from 32-bit to 64-bit, maybe that's all that changed.... |
| 01:56.52 | gnarface | Wafficus: you can still override it with the WINEARCH and WINEPREFIX environment variables, check the wiki |
| 01:57.19 | gnarface | Wafficus: if you get it working, you should add an appdb entry too |
| 02:08.21 | Wafficus | nah same version of WINE ha |
| 02:08.32 | Wafficus | just did it a week or so ago, so idk |
| 02:08.39 | Wafficus | must have been magic |
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| 02:15.31 | gnarface | Wafficus: did you use winetricks on the previous install and forget perhaps? maybe try cloning the ~/.wine directory from that machine over to the new install to see if it magically works |
| 02:16.30 | gnarface | Wafficus: you could also try asking for advice in their IRC channel too... odds are very low of finding anyone actually helpful in there but it's the next best place to look |
| 02:22.13 | Wafficus | nah on the previous install |
| 02:22.19 | Wafficus | I flat out did nothing special |
| 02:22.21 | Wafficus | and just installed it |
| 02:22.29 | Wafficus | gotcha |
| 02:22.30 | Wafficus | thanks for that |
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| 04:00.34 | Nematocyst | is there a curses-based installer for beowulf, and what's the command to invoke it after x fails to start? i'm just assuming i can solve the video related problems post install, but don't really know how to address them during install |
| 04:07.57 | Nematocyst | i got it. netinstall iso just starts up that way. |
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