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| 16:46.50 | user | Hello. I just installed devuan beowulf yesterday. Would like to add winetricks from buster, but there is no separate contrib or non-free repo in sources.list or a method to add those. How does one safely add contrib and non-free to sources.list without causing systemd pollution to be pulled in? |
| 16:47.32 | user | I hope my posting appears in the channel, am not identified. |
| 16:49.22 | brocashelm | user: i'm sure just adding non-free and contrib next to main in your sources.list and apt update should do the trick |
| 16:49.37 | user | based on beowulf or on buster? |
| 16:49.50 | brocashelm | beowulf |
| 16:50.22 | brocashelm | change the line in sources.list to this and try updating to see winetricks: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main non-free contrib |
| 16:51.03 | user | yes I got it. |
| 16:51.30 | brocashelm | winetricks is installable for me if i have contrib in the sources |
| 16:51.55 | user | Yes seems to work. Thanks for confirming. |
| 16:51.58 | brocashelm | np |
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| 18:58.54 | markizano | W: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf/InRelease Could not connect to packages.roundr.devuan.org:80 (5.196.38.18). - connect (113: No route to host) |
| 18:59.01 | markizano | something up with roundr ?? |
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| 19:11.28 | fsmithred | markizano, use deb.devuan.org instead |
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| 20:08.37 | systemdlete | policykit on xfce is sucking. I can't launch gufw -- it tells me I can't run as another user. On Mate, it works fine. I know there was an outstanding issue with pk, at least until 0.105-5; this is 0.105-6 |
| 20:09.16 | systemdlete | (Mate handles pk itself) |
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| 20:11.29 | brocashelm | what is the latest devuan lts kernel? 4.19? and, 5.7 is non-lts? |
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| 20:16.51 | fsmithred | 4.19.0-10-amd64 is stock in beowulf |
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| 20:17.01 | TemporalBeing | back |
| 20:17.21 | fsmithred | 5. something in ceres/chimaera and maybe something a little behind that in beowulf-backports |
| 20:18.37 | brocashelm | just making sure because someone said they've been having problems with virtualbox on 5.8 (non-lts) |
| 20:19.02 | brocashelm | https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/19644 |
| 20:21.43 | brocashelm | and i'm on 5.7 (ceres), hence no issues at all |
| 20:25.21 | fsmithred | thunder sounds close. bbiab |
| 20:29.38 | systemdlete | I've managed to work around it by running "DISPLAY=:0 gufw" as root, but that's not ideal. |
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| 22:06.22 | user1 | Hello. I'm trying to create a init script for wireguard, but it seems it's not behaving as expected. ie, when i boot with no network, wg-quick tries to establish a connexion, blocking the boot process for like 1min |
| 22:06.42 | user1 | that's the init script im using: http://sprunge.us/lnG5vZ |
| 22:07.11 | user1 | if anyone could point me where the issue lies/how to fix it, i'd be grateful :> |
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| 22:35.35 | mason | user1: Do you just want it to start manually? |
| 22:35.59 | mason | If so, maybe: update-rc.d wireguard disable |
| 22:36.17 | mason | Then you can "service wireguard start" and "service wireguard stop" at your convenience. |
| 22:37.08 | user1 | i was more expecting it not to start if requirements aren't met (like, no network) |
| 22:37.55 | user1 | but im not sure this can be accomplished. your solution might be more adequate |
| 22:39.47 | mason | user1: You can inject some scaffolding to check for a working network, and some logic to decide what to do if there's no network, etc. Manual control sounds more pleasant to me. |
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| 22:42.07 | user1 | mh indeed |
| 22:42.39 | user1 | thanks for the hints |
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| 22:47.14 | openbsdtai123 | hello a little question, on devuan ascii live, what is the default desktop 1) XFCE4 or 2) LXDE ? |
| 22:47.28 | openbsdtai123 | thank you |
| 22:53.57 | fsmithred | openbsdtai123, xfce |
| 22:57.59 | openbsdtai123 | is autofs or usbmount preinstalled on this live? it seems that the auto mount works fine... very fine. |
| 22:58.13 | openbsdtai123 | thank you |
| 22:59.35 | user1 | (is there any specific chan regarding the chimaera release ?) |
| 23:00.59 | fsmithred | usb is not mounted automatically - you have to click on the icon that pops up |
| 23:01.12 | fsmithred | autofs is not installed |
| 23:01.35 | fsmithred | user1, no, and chimaera is not yet a release |
| 23:02.02 | fsmithred | be ready for dealing with breakage if you use it |
| 23:07.18 | user1 | fsmithred: yes indeed, i canoot upgrade my system because of broken deps |
| 23:07.47 | user1 | i'd be glad to help tho. even if im not that tech savvy :x |
| 23:11.29 | systemdlete | so... any thoughts on xfce+policykit? |
| 23:16.23 | fsmithred | not any that are fit to print |
| 23:17.43 | systemdlete | :) |
| 23:17.58 | systemdlete | fsmithred: Is this still an issue on Beowulf? |
| 23:18.10 | systemdlete | I'm trying to justify upgrading from ascii |
| 23:18.50 | systemdlete | or, maybe I just need to move over to mate |
| 23:18.57 | systemdlete | (I like mate anyway) |
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| 23:22.55 | fsmithred | if you want shutdown/reboot buttons to work, you need policykit-1-gnome and all it pulls in |
| 23:23.14 | fsmithred | you can exclude Recommends if you want |
| 23:23.56 | fsmithred | systemdlete, I've been using beowulf since the beginning of the year. xfce works fine |
| 23:24.21 | systemdlete | what happens if you try to launch, say, gufw? |
| 23:24.29 | fsmithred | no clue |
| 23:24.32 | systemdlete | (or another pk program |
| 23:24.42 | systemdlete | xfce works fine here also) |
| 23:25.12 | systemdlete | It's the pk stuff that seems to be iffy, judging by user reports I've found by searching the web |
| 23:25.17 | fsmithred | is gufw a graphical program that you need to run as root? |
| 23:25.33 | systemdlete | graphical ufw (uncomplicated firewall) |
| 23:25.57 | systemdlete | It works fine on my host mate desktop, but not in my xfce VM |
| 23:26.04 | fsmithred | well, if the authors or maintainers made a good pkexec file, it should work fine |
| 23:26.14 | fsmithred | why not in xfce? |
| 23:26.29 | systemdlete | it tells me I can't run as root, and then it tells me it is reporting me to the principal |
| 23:26.39 | fsmithred | is it beowulf? |
| 23:26.48 | systemdlete | ascii, which was the basis of my question |
| 23:27.01 | systemdlete | both are ascii --host and VM |
| 23:27.15 | systemdlete | but the host runs mate, whereas the guest runs xfce |
| 23:27.16 | fsmithred | ok, so the problem is not due to changes in su |
| 23:27.40 | fsmithred | can you run other programs as root on the desktop? |
| 23:27.44 | systemdlete | (sorry if I was not clear) |
| 23:27.54 | systemdlete | example? |
| 23:27.55 | fsmithred | like a graphical text editor or file manager? |
| 23:28.10 | systemdlete | why would I run a text editor as root? |
| 23:28.18 | fsmithred | ok, I'm lost |
| 23:28.22 | systemdlete | or do you mean another pk program? |
| 23:28.26 | fsmithred | what's the problem? |
| 23:28.38 | systemdlete | gufw requires a policykit login |
| 23:28.41 | fsmithred | you have to be root to run a firewall, right? |
| 23:28.53 | systemdlete | to make changes to the firewall, yes |
| 23:29.25 | fsmithred | is there a gufw-pkexec or something like that to start it? |
| 23:29.32 | systemdlete | must be |
| 23:29.43 | fsmithred | well, you're running ascii |
| 23:29.59 | fsmithred | how does it work |
| 23:30.00 | fsmithred | ? |
| 23:30.10 | fsmithred | or maybe it doesn't work? |
| 23:30.28 | systemdlete | yes, there is a gufw-pkexec on both the host and the guest. |
| 23:31.11 | fsmithred | and you have all the right 'kit shit installed in the vm? |
| 23:31.30 | systemdlete | it works fine when I use the mate desktop on the host. I can give the root login when it prompts me and I get the GUI. But not in the guest where I am running xfce |
| 23:31.45 | systemdlete | what would "all" of that be? |
| 23:31.50 | systemdlete | (I'm no expert on this stuff) |
| 23:32.00 | fsmithred | any other pkexec stuff work? synaptic or gparted? |
| 23:32.13 | systemdlete | ah, gparted. I could try that. Hold on. |
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| 23:35.50 | systemdlete | well, gparted tells me you have to be root to run it (like, duh). If I run it from the menu, nothing happens at all. It just fades away. From user command line |
| 23:36.01 | systemdlete | it tells me that and just exits |
| 23:36.10 | systemdlete | when I click the OK button |
| 23:36.22 | systemdlete | (sorry, fingers a bit unsteady here) |
| 23:36.29 | systemdlete | I'll try synaptic |
| 23:38.57 | systemdlete | http://paste.debian.net/1160978/ (similar output for gufw, different output for gparted though) |
| 23:40.04 | systemdlete | fsmithred: Have you tried synaptic on xfce on beowulf? |
| 23:40.18 | fsmithred | yes |
| 23:40.22 | fsmithred | it works |
| 23:40.39 | systemdlete | you are able to enter the root password and it takes it without an error? |
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| 23:51.09 | fsmithred | am I here? |
| 23:51.14 | systemdlete | yes |
| 23:51.16 | systemdlete | am I? |
| 23:51.20 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 23:51.31 | fsmithred | thunderstorm here |
| 23:51.34 | systemdlete | oh |
| 23:51.41 | systemdlete | I thought maybe you didn't like my question. LOL |
| 23:52.07 | fsmithred | policykit-1-gnome elogind libpam-elogind |
| 23:52.15 | systemdlete | Good to hear you are getting some wet there. We got a little here (Sacramento) a few days ago, but not since. |
| 23:52.36 | fsmithred | we just got dumped on. Sorry I can't send you some. |
| 23:52.45 | systemdlete | where are you? |
| 23:52.57 | fsmithred | massachusetts |
| 23:53.15 | systemdlete | oh, is that one of the hurricanes/tropical storms? |
| 23:53.29 | fsmithred | not sure if they've arrived yet |
| 23:53.45 | systemdlete | so those are the 3 packages I need then? |
| 23:54.33 | fsmithred | and some libpolkits that come with them |
| 23:54.52 | systemdlete | let me check... |
| 23:55.36 | systemdlete | 234.4-2 for elogind and libpam-elogind |
| 23:56.11 | systemdlete | do you have an ascii there with xfce? maybe you could try it and we could compare? |
| 23:56.26 | systemdlete | if it fails for you also, then I have my answer. |
| 23:56.47 | fsmithred | not one I can get to easily |
| 23:56.52 | systemdlete | ok. |
| 23:57.14 | fsmithred | but I know it works. I've spent time on this. Look on the forum. |
| 23:57.18 | systemdlete | well, maybe someone else here has one. |
| 23:57.22 | fsmithred | pkit-1-gnome |
| 23:57.28 | systemdlete | ok |