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| 01:51.25 | lonoxmont | having an interesting time trying to get the netboot installer to work on a laptop |
| 01:52.09 | lonoxmont | i seem to have gotten it into a state where it only tries to hit the archive for ascii, fails to find modules that match the running kernel (because the installer is newer) and fails out |
| 01:53.09 | lonoxmont | is there a way to force the installer to try a different release? where does it store the information about what release it is targeting? |
| 01:53.25 | lonoxmont | i guess worst case i can try and reboot and start over but it was already a pain getting even this far |
| 01:53.31 | lonoxmont | thoughts? |
| 01:58.24 | golinux | Just download the installer for the release you want to install and it will foind the appropriate repositories. |
| 01:58.53 | golinux | Please . . . the title of the iso that you are trying to install |
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| 01:59.15 | golinux | Beerbelott: Hello stranger! |
| 02:00.01 | Beerbelott | ;) |
| 02:00.15 | Beerbelott | Any LVM pro over here? |
| 02:00.53 | lonoxmont | yeah thats part of my problem, the regular iso files dont boot on this laptop |
| 02:01.08 | lonoxmont | just sits there and spins forever on one of the firmware splash screens |
| 02:01.58 | Beerbelott | I'm trying to migrate hardwired Devuan partitions onto LVM, and it seems I missed something... WHen running on the new system, I get a "WARNING: Device /dev/*** not inistialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds." message for each and every partition... until the bootloader gives up |
| 02:02.41 | n4dir | lonoxmont: isn't there a button at the bottom where you can "go back" ? |
| 02:02.46 | lonoxmont | https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_beowulf/installer-iso/devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso |
| 02:02.52 | lonoxmont | this doesnt boot for me |
| 02:03.08 | n4dir | and i think from expert-mode you can point it to a certain release |
| 02:03.08 | lonoxmont | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/beowulf/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso |
| 02:03.11 | lonoxmont | this does |
| 02:03.17 | lonoxmont | im in expert mode alaready |
| 02:03.22 | n4dir | ah |
| 02:06.29 | lonoxmont | i think there is some weirdness since the first time i got to the choose mirror entry and picked a mirror, it initially showed jessie and ascii releases, subsequent entries into that menu to try and select something else only show beowulf as the oldest |
| 02:06.46 | lonoxmont | i guess if i have to i can try and reboot again but its still flakey to get even this far |
| 02:07.49 | lonoxmont | thus i was hoping if there was some file the isntaller script was hitting for which release to target, i was hoping to force it to try a different release |
| 02:09.52 | fsmithred | Beerbelott, are you working in a chroot when you get that message? |
| 02:10.15 | lonoxmont | since right now it seems jammed on trying to hit ascii |
| 02:11.08 | fsmithred | mini iso stops working when the kernel in the repo gets updated |
| 02:12.32 | lonoxmont | is there no way to set up whatever handles the repo updates to refresh the iso when that happens? |
| 02:12.54 | Beerbelott | fsmithred: No, that on reboot after having installed lvm and run grub-install + update-grub from the chroot |
| 02:13.02 | fsmithred | hm, my kernel is older than your mini.iso and |
| 02:13.09 | fsmithred | it should still be good |
| 02:13.26 | fsmithred | oh, I remember |
| 02:13.30 | Beerbelott | In the chroot there is a warning /sbin/fsck.lvm2 when updating |
| 02:13.39 | fsmithred | Beerbelott, you gotta tell udev to fkoff |
| 02:14.02 | fsmithred | couple of edits in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf |
| 02:14.17 | Beerbelott | I mount /run/udev in the chroot, as I told you the other day |
| 02:14.25 | Beerbelott | Seems to run flawlessly |
| 02:14.31 | fsmithred | yeah, I thought we talked about this |
| 02:14.33 | Beerbelott | apart from that /sbin/fsck.lvm2 |
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| 02:16.14 | fsmithred | udev_sync = 0 |
| 02:16.22 | fsmithred | udev_rules = 0 |
| 02:16.32 | Beerbelott | in the chroot? |
| 02:16.36 | fsmithred | no |
| 02:16.43 | fsmithred | just do that in the installed system |
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| 02:17.04 | fsmithred | I think there are two more edits |
| 02:17.10 | n4dir | how to remove ssh port forwards again |
| 02:17.18 | fsmithred | trying to remember without looking it up |
| 02:17.49 | n4dir | yesterday i just used pkill, but that seems awkard |
| 02:18.32 | lonoxmont | i guess i can try and grab one of the regular installer cds but i prefer netinstalls so im not installing old versions of stuff to then have to update vs just getting the latest |
| 02:19.51 | fsmithred | we have netinstall cd |
| 02:19.52 | Beerbelott | "fsck: error 2 (No such file or directory) while executing fsck.ext4 for /dev/mapper/vg0-lvol0" |
| 02:19.54 | Beerbelott | WTH |
| 02:19.58 | Beerbelott | 1st line on boot |
| 02:20.27 | Beerbelott | udevd: specified group 'kvm' unknown |
| 02:20.30 | lonoxmont | fsmithred: the netinstall cd hangs at boot on this laptop |
| 02:20.47 | lonoxmont | never gets past the uefi splash screen |
| 02:20.49 | Beerbelott | But... I forgot lvm in that chroot |
| 02:21.01 | Beerbelott | forgot -> installed |
| 02:21.54 | fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21501#p21501 |
| 02:22.09 | fsmithred | what do you mean you forgot lvm? |
| 02:22.11 | fsmithred | oh |
| 02:22.13 | fsmithred | nm |
| 02:22.22 | fsmithred | ignore the kvm warning |
| 02:22.33 | Beerbelott | Is this "normal"? |
| 02:22.35 | fsmithred | that post has the edits |
| 02:22.39 | Beerbelott | Thx for the link, will try |
| 02:22.47 | fsmithred | yeah, the kvm warning is pretty much standard |
| 02:23.05 | Beerbelott | seems to be systemd-related :| |
| 02:23.17 | fsmithred | no, kvm is VM related |
| 02:23.46 | Beerbelott | Ah OK. I am indeed training in a VM |
| 02:23.58 | fsmithred | grep kvm /etc/group |
| 02:24.01 | Beerbelott | Don't wanna screw up my repartitioning on the live system |
| 02:24.42 | lonoxmont | going to try the server install iso and see if that works any better |
| 02:24.53 | lonoxmont | netboot flat refuses to boot |
| 02:25.49 | fsmithred | there is a netinstall iso that is not the same as the netboot/mini.iso |
| 02:26.02 | lonoxmont | there is |
| 02:26.07 | lonoxmont | i downloaded it |
| 02:26.07 | lonoxmont | burned it |
| 02:26.11 | lonoxmont | tried to boot |
| 02:26.50 | fsmithred | that's not good |
| 02:27.09 | lonoxmont | it hangs at the uefi boot logo forever |
| 02:27.09 | lonoxmont | i let it sit for a day to see if it ever mad eprogress, it didnt |
| 02:27.27 | fsmithred | no error message? |
| 02:27.50 | fsmithred | is secure boot enabled? |
| 02:27.53 | lonoxmont | nope, which makes this even more fun to try and fix |
| 02:27.59 | Beerbelott | /dev/sda5 is in use e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting (/dev/sda5 is the LVM PV) |
| 02:28.23 | fsmithred | can't do a filesystem check on something that isn't a filesystem |
| 02:28.33 | lonoxmont | secure boot has to be disabled to far to get the mini.iso to boot |
| 02:28.33 | lonoxmont | it fails with secure boot error otherwise |
| 02:28.46 | Beerbelott | Why is it trying to do so? |
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| 02:29.01 | lonoxmont | my net is slammed trying to pull this iso gimme a sec for responses |
| 02:29.02 | fsmithred | beer, I don't know |
| 02:29.19 | Beerbelott | Mb there is aflag of some sort on it |
| 02:29.30 | Beerbelott | I'll try to clear all that from the rescue live system |
| 02:29.55 | lonoxmont | ok thats down now |
| 02:30.12 | lonoxmont | going to try and burn off the server install cd and see if that works any better |
| 02:30.12 | fsmithred | lonoxmont, you using optical media or usb? |
| 02:30.16 | lonoxmont | optical |
| 02:30.23 | lonoxmont | i tried usb and it doesnt seem to like it |
| 02:30.49 | lonoxmont | even though it has a listing in the firmware for usb booting, i havent got it to work |
| 02:31.31 | fsmithred | are you able to get to the hardware's boot device menu? |
| 02:31.44 | lonoxmont | i am |
| 02:32.02 | fsmithred | the usb stick shows up in that menu but doesn't boot? |
| 02:32.11 | fsmithred | or it doesn't show up? |
| 02:32.23 | lonoxmont | id have to double check, i dont remember if it shows up correctly or not |
| 02:32.53 | lonoxmont | my usual approach to usb booting is dd the iso off to the usb stick and rely on the firmware doing optical emulation or w/e |
| 02:33.02 | lonoxmont | most of the time its worked fine, this hardware doesnt like it |
| 02:33.20 | fsmithred | there might be a setting in the bios/uefi to make it play nice |
| 02:33.40 | lonoxmont | eh, this uefi seems to be fairly barebones |
| 02:33.44 | lonoxmont | its a bit older hardware |
| 02:33.45 | fsmithred | but uefi implementations are often wonky |
| 02:33.50 | lonoxmont | yeah they are |
| 02:34.07 | fsmithred | like whatever they felt like doing on that day |
| 02:34.23 | lonoxmont | the one on the laptop i am on now refuses to traverse down any levels in the ESP |
| 02:34.29 | fsmithred | if you can get one of the live isos to boot, you could do a debootstrap install |
| 02:34.41 | lonoxmont | so i worked around that by copying the grubx64.efi to the root of the esp |
| 02:34.47 | fsmithred | lol |
| 02:42.47 | fsmithred | n4dir, what do you want to remove? |
| 02:43.03 | n4dir | the port forward. wait a second |
| 02:43.24 | lonoxmont | gonna burn off this iso and see if it boots, im not holding out much hope lmao |
| 02:43.27 | n4dir | ssh -f -N -L7657:127.0.0.1:7657 |
| 02:43.31 | fsmithred | not sure what you mean. I think of port forwarding as the settings in my router |
| 02:43.36 | lonoxmont | and the crazy thing is the exact same netinstall iso worked fine on this laptop |
| 02:43.39 | n4dir | then netat tulpen shows it accordingly |
| 02:43.58 | lonoxmont | just doesnt like this other hardware |
| 02:44.04 | fsmithred | is that for reverse ssh? |
| 02:44.11 | n4dir | but if i stop the service, i2p, on the remote, and restart it, that ssh-port-forward doesn't work anymore |
| 02:44.35 | n4dir | fsmithred: it tells the local machine to make the remote port, 7657, to act as if it was local to the local machine |
| 02:44.55 | fsmithred | and then what do you do with that? |
| 02:44.56 | n4dir | so not remote, but local PC, i can localhost:7657, and will get pointed to remote |
| 02:45.01 | n4dir | makes sense? |
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| 02:45.18 | n4dir | remote no X is running, i need a web-browser for said port, hence the port forwarding |
| 02:46.15 | fsmithred | lsof or ps ax or pidof to get the pid and then kill that |
| 02:46.18 | n4dir | pkill ssh works, but then i gotta restart ssh-agent. And it doesn't look like a very sexy solution to stop those ssh-forwards |
| 02:46.38 | fsmithred | or maybe start it in a script and when the script ends it closes it |
| 02:47.23 | n4dir | either -f or -N avoids that |
| 02:47.26 | lonoxmont | iirc there might be an ssh escape sequence command to remove forwards, i know there is one to add them |
| 02:47.31 | n4dir | because usually i want it to keep running |
| 02:48.15 | fsmithred | ok, so the script could make a pid file and then it could kill the right process at the end |
| 02:48.40 | fsmithred | I guess you'd have to leave it open in a terminal and ctrl-c if you want to keep it running |
| 02:48.43 | n4dir | but then i run the script and end with no nothing, or? |
| 02:48.48 | fsmithred | probably better ways |
| 02:48.52 | lonoxmont | pid files are scetchy and prone to race conditions afaik |
| 02:48.55 | n4dir | then pkill sounds like a better solution |
| 02:49.06 | lonoxmont | better would be make it a proper service and have init handle it |
| 02:49.39 | fsmithred | pkill is shotgun. You are getting collateral damage. |
| 02:50.02 | n4dir | well, if no one knows how to remove those port-forwards it is all i got |
| 02:50.25 | lonoxmont | lemme look one sec |
| 02:51.08 | n4dir | am in the middle of breaking the raspberry installation altogether, so that problem will not occure that soon again ... |
| 02:51.26 | n4dir | fingers crossed it won't happen ... |
| 02:51.39 | lonoxmont | https://www.sans.org/blog/using-the-ssh-konami-code-ssh-control-sequences/ |
| 02:51.53 | lonoxmont | heres a little of it, theres probably better info let mekeep looking |
| 02:52.45 | n4dir | i don't think that helps with ssh-port-forwarding |
| 02:52.46 | Nematocyst | oh no. just installed beowulf yesterday. mostly happy with the setup after moving everything over today. realize i haven't installed a printer. synaptic says cups installed already. print a test page. perfect. run a 16-bit wine app and print from it. perfect. that's not supposed to happen! |
| 02:53.21 | Nematocyst | (it's a network printer attached to a rpi) |
| 02:53.28 | Nematocyst | i did zero config on it |
| 02:53.44 | lonoxmont | https://jango.si/post/ssh-escape-sequences/ |
| 02:54.39 | lonoxmont | oh is this not an interactive shell? |
| 02:54.56 | n4dir | no |
| 02:55.14 | lonoxmont | hmm |
| 02:55.31 | lonoxmont | yeah idk then |
| 02:56.29 | n4dir | if i wouldn't have found that stoneage old script in the middle of an external disk, i sure wouldn't have been able to do it at all |
| 02:56.33 | n4dir | clusterfuck |
| 02:57.34 | Beerbelott | Dammit! I found my mistake fsmithred |
| 02:57.41 | fsmithred | ?? |
| 02:58.09 | Beerbelott | I used the UUID of the LVM partition instead of the mapped fake partition of the LV... |
| 02:58.25 | Beerbelott | in fstab |
| 02:58.29 | fsmithred | that's a reason not to like uuids |
| 02:59.01 | Beerbelott | still got an error about the inexistence of fsck.ext4 o nthe first line of boot though |
| 02:59.10 | Beerbelott | Have I done sth wrong? |
| 02:59.31 | Beerbelott | before the INIT: version blahblahblah line |
| 02:59.33 | fsmithred | not sure. |
| 02:59.43 | fsmithred | fsck shows up in a couple files in /etc/init.d |
| 03:00.10 | fsmithred | I might have an lvm to check |
| 03:00.41 | Beerbelott | I installed a *very* basic system to train, not even the SSH server. I installed <200 packages during install |
| 03:02.12 | Beerbelott | The whole error is "fsck: error 2 (No such file or diretory) while executing fsck.ext4 for /dev/mapper/vg0-lvol0 |
| 03:02.12 | Beerbelott | fsck exited with status code 8" |
| 03:02.15 | fsmithred | I didn't see it go by during boot |
| 03:02.42 | Beerbelott | followed by "INIT: version 2.93 booting" |
| 03:04.35 | fsmithred | I don't see it in /var/log/boot |
| 03:04.50 | fsmithred | https://www.sans.org/blog/using-the-ssh-konami-code-ssh-control-sequences/ |
| 03:04.53 | fsmithred | oops |
| 03:05.09 | fsmithred | I can't copy/paste from the VM |
| 03:05.50 | fsmithred | anyway it says "checking file systems...fsck from util-linux 2.33.1 |
| 03:06.03 | fsmithred | bootfs: clean...blahblah |
| 03:06.20 | Beerbelott | Mmmh |
| 03:06.20 | fsmithred | this is encrypted lvm |
| 03:06.30 | Beerbelott | Mb I need to rebuild the boot sequence fro mthe chroot? |
| 03:06.39 | Beerbelott | Mine is not encrypted |
| 03:08.49 | fsmithred | did you convert filesystems to lvm or did you copy stuff from old filesystems to new ones in new lvm? |
| 03:11.40 | Beerbelott | I copied the old partition to the LV with ddrescue |
| 03:11.47 | Beerbelott | Might be the pb? |
| 03:12.04 | fsmithred | never tried that |
| 03:12.30 | fsmithred | I would probably use rsync |
| 03:12.46 | Beerbelott | Working at the block level, you're sure not to miss anything out, right? |
| 03:13.26 | fsmithred | the old system was not running at the time? |
| 03:13.35 | Beerbelott | Time of what? |
| 03:13.39 | Beerbelott | copy? |
| 03:13.42 | fsmithred | that it was being copied |
| 03:14.06 | Beerbelott | Lol no I did all the work fro mthe live rescue system |
| 03:14.12 | fsmithred | ok |
| 03:14.23 | lonoxmont | the server iso also hangs |
| 03:14.24 | Beerbelott | he good news is the old partition is still there on the side |
| 03:14.36 | lonoxmont | i can try other ones but i suspect they probably also hang |
| 03:14.42 | fsmithred | hangs where? |
| 03:14.45 | Beerbelott | I can copy it all over again inside the LV, resize the FS and redo all the LVM-related work |
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| 03:18.54 | fsmithred | Beerbelott, it should work. I've done similar with refractainstaller. |
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| 03:20.03 | rrq | Beerbelott: where does it get /dev/mapper/vg0-lvol0 from .. /etc/fstab ? |
| 03:22.25 | lonoxmont | fsmithred: at the toshiba splash screen the uefi firmware displays |
| 03:22.40 | lonoxmont | its jsut a black screen that has a toshiba logo in red text, nothing else useful |
| 03:22.54 | fsmithred | yeah, I know what it looks like |
| 03:22.58 | lonoxmont | the cd drive spools like it is trying to read, and just never ends up reading |
| 03:23.03 | fsmithred | F12 for the boot device menu |
| 03:23.21 | lonoxmont | everything hangs and the only way to get out is to force a poweroff |
| 03:23.34 | lonoxmont | not even ctl-alt-del does anything |
| 03:23.35 | fsmithred | I can only boot usb from the usb2 port, not from the usb3 |
| 03:23.58 | fsmithred | ok, yours is worse than mine |
| 03:24.20 | lonoxmont | i cna boot the gparted live cd and the mini.iso devuan image |
| 03:24.26 | lonoxmont | so i know its not completely broken |
| 03:24.51 | fsmithred | oh, maybe... |
| 03:25.00 | lonoxmont | however i think something is broken in mini.iso as it seems to try and install ascii no matter what release you select |
| 03:25.04 | fsmithred | boot the gparted iso cd and then chainload the usb |
| 03:25.30 | fsmithred | I have to do that with my old thinkpad |
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| 03:28.30 | lonoxmon1 | what was my last message |
| 03:28.57 | n4dir | "... no matter what release you select" |
| 03:29.07 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 03:29.19 | lonoxmont | looking at the log, it doesnt like the gpg signature the first time around on the Release file, then the second time it likes it but then proceeds to load the ascii Release file |
| 03:29.19 | lonoxmont | which then fails because it doesnt have a mathcing kernel module list or w/e |
| 03:29.21 | lonoxmon1 | 19:26:16 -0800 < lonoxmont> looking at the log, it doesnt like the gpg signature the first time around on the Release file, then the second time it likes it but then proceeds to load the ascii Release file |
| 03:29.22 | lonoxmon1 | 19:26:27 -0800 < lonoxmont> which then fails because it doesnt have a mathcing kernel module list or w/e |
| 03:29.40 | lonoxmon1 | wait what |
| 03:29.49 | lonoxmon1 | tf happened there |
| 03:30.34 | fsmithred | https://termbin.com/306z |
| 03:32.12 | Lonoxmont | anyhow |
| 03:32.15 | Lonoxmont | thoughts? |
| 03:33.17 | Lonoxmont | i dont think i have any burnable dvds laying around, so cant test that |
| 03:34.45 | gnarface | usb key would probably work... |
| 03:35.00 | Lonoxmont | if this toshiba firmware liked usb drives i wouldnt be here |
| 03:35.35 | gnarface | did you try with one that's 2GB or smaller? |
| 03:35.46 | Lonoxmont | so far it only seems to like opticals and i never figured out how to make a reliable bootable usb other than just dding over an iso |
| 03:35.51 | Beerbelott | Yippeah! |
| 03:36.07 | gnarface | if it's an older bios it'll have to be <= 2GB physically (partitioning won't help) |
| 03:36.20 | Lonoxmont | i dont know if i have any that are both below the 2gb barrier but also large enough to be useful |
| 03:36.36 | Beerbelott | I redid a fresh copy from my old hardwired partition to the LV, redid the LVM install + configuration, followed by GRUB rebuild and boom! Bootable without any error before init kicks in |
| 03:36.38 | Lonoxmont | like i might have a 128mb lying around |
| 03:36.40 | gnarface | 1GB should be sufficient for most images |
| 03:36.43 | Beerbelott | fsmithred: Joy! |
| 03:37.03 | gnarface | oh, for the grub livecd it's like... 2MB or something, any size would be fine |
| 03:37.11 | gnarface | for a devuan livecd it'd have to be 1GB |
| 03:37.18 | gnarface | grub/gparted |
| 03:37.24 | gnarface | either of those i think probably would fit in 128MB |
| 03:37.36 | gnarface | ph |
| 03:37.44 | gnarface | hmmm, maybe not ... |
| 03:37.56 | gnarface | last grub live iso i downloaded was 379M |
| 03:38.02 | gnarface | grr, gparted i mean |
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| 03:38.24 | gnarface | i have a very old version that's 128MB though... 0.13.1 |
| 03:39.35 | gnarface | i could have sworn there was a way to put a ~2MB grub image on iso though |
| 03:39.36 | Beerbelott | fsmithred: I confirm copying fro mthe block level works (and I already knew it was the case from past tests). I use ddrescue (gddrescue package) and not standard dd as ddrescue is designed towards data copy exactness : can be resumed/checked against the mapfile, supports multiple passes, forward/reverse, separate scrape fro mcopy, etc. |
| 03:39.58 | Beerbelott | (also very handy when dealing with failing disks) |
| 03:40.11 | Beerbelott | Alrighty y'all! Gn |
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| 03:42.51 | gnarface | i wouldn't expect it to be so old that it would require the usb key be formatted as a 100MB ATAPI floppy if it has a dvd drive |
| 03:44.22 | fsmithred | gnarface, see grub-mkrescue for making a grub boot CD |
| 03:44.34 | Lonoxmont | nah its newer than this laptop i think |
| 03:44.43 | Lonoxmont | and it has uefi so its not super ancient |
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| 03:45.51 | fsmithred | really, try booting the usb from the CD that does boot |
| 03:46.05 | fsmithred | the termbin link was an example grub menuentry |
| 03:46.16 | fsmithred | you could do the same on grub command line to test it |
| 03:46.31 | fsmithred | boot grub rescue cd, press c |
| 03:46.49 | fsmithred | then type the commands. You can even use tab-completion therer. |
| 03:46.51 | fsmithred | there |
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| 03:48.39 | Lonoxmont | would it work if i got to the grub menu off of the gparted live cd that does work and then swapped disks over to devuan and edited the grub entry to point to the new kernel images etc? |
| 03:49.11 | fsmithred | I don't think so |
| 03:49.36 | rrq | Lonoxmont: for the mini.iso, on choosing mirror, the only sensible is to go to the top and choose deb.devuan.org |
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| 03:50.43 | fsmithred | anyway I need to sleep. |
| 03:50.47 | Lonoxmont | i can reboot and try that again, i still find it odd/a sign something is broken that the first time you hit that menu entry ascii shows up in the list of releases, but not any subsequent times |
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| 03:51.27 | fsmithred | good luck with it. Try what I suggested. |
| 03:51.58 | fsmithred | not with the mini.iso. Use a bigger one. dd it to the usb. boot from the CD that works. |
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| 03:53.21 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | How do I resolve a ipv6 link local adress in /etc/hosts |
| 03:53.31 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I tried putting fe80::216:3eff:fe56:9bed%eth0 lltest |
| 03:53.33 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Ping lltest |
| 03:53.41 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | But ping keeps returning host not found |
| 03:53.57 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | All the guides out there just say to use systemd, which doesn't solve the problem and i'm not using systemd |
| 03:54.10 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | It should not be required to run systemd to use ipv6 |
| 03:54.22 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Ipv6 is a internet protocol, not an init system |
| 03:55.01 | onefang | The %eth0 part might be confusing things. |
| 04:01.07 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | How else do i specify the zone id to use? |
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| 04:04.06 | rrq | not needed, or use "-I eth0" |
| 04:05.14 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | So echo "fe80::blah%eth0 -I eth0 lltest" >/etc/hosts? |
| 04:05.53 | rrq | no interface in /etc/hosts ... you can give it to ping if you want |
| 04:07.10 | Lonoxmont | /etc/hosts is just like a local dns file |
| 04:07.31 | rrq | (and you meant >> I suppose :) |
| 04:07.36 | Lonoxmont | /etc/network/interfaces might be closer to what you are trying to do |
| 04:07.57 | Lonoxmont | ait no i cant read |
| 04:08.36 | Lonoxmont | idk how ipv6 link local stuff works |
| 04:08.49 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | How do i setup a dns entry in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 04:09.05 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I thought that was /etc/hosts |
| 04:09.13 | Lonoxmont | you dont i just didnt read the original question right |
| 04:09.24 | Lonoxmont | i thought you were trying to set a link local address |
| 04:09.38 | rrq | the /etc/hosts line should be "fe80::216:3eff:fe56:9bed lltest" |
| 04:09.48 | rrq | without the quotes |
| 04:13.15 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | How will it know which zone to use? |
| 04:15.39 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | That does work |
| 04:15.44 | rrq | I believe the kernel works out which interface to use for link-local addresses .. possibly via NDP |
| 04:15.50 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Hmm |
| 04:15.51 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Ok |
| 04:17.05 | rrq | you might want to assign private addresses in fc00::/7 instead |
| 04:17.34 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Ping works |
| 04:17.46 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | But wget, netcat, and curl break |
| 04:18.02 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | # nc -v llxmpp:5281 |
| 04:18.02 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | llxmpp:5281: forward host lookup failed: Unknown host |
| 04:18.18 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | # wget llxmpp:5281 |
| 04:18.18 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | --2021-01-30 20:16:58-- http://llxmpp:5281/ |
| 04:18.18 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Resolving llxmpp (llxmpp)... fe80::216:3eff:fe56:9bed |
| 04:18.18 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Connecting to llxmpp (llxmpp)|fe80::216:3eff:fe56:9bed|:5281... failed: Invalid argument. |
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| 04:21.41 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | rrq: do you mean fd not fc right? |
| 04:21.59 | rrq | both (it's /7) |
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| 04:22.07 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | This just really sucks. I really want to use ipv6's advanced features but gnu userspace is so buggy |
| 04:22.32 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Maybe i can setup private addressing automagiclly with radvd |
| 04:24.24 | rrq | try adding a ".here" or something to the name in /etc/hosts; domainless names get resolved with all sorts of domains |
| 04:25.28 | rrq | ipv6 works like ipv4 really, and radvd is like a dhcp service |
| 04:27.08 | rrq | (I use dnsmasq for that just because I'm used to it for ipv4) |
| 04:29.33 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | rrq: I just did this and it gave all my hosts their own range |
| 04:29.40 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.40 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.40 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.40 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.40 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.49 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | In radvd.conf |
| 04:29.55 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Pretty cooll |
| 04:29.59 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Did it instantly too |
| 04:30.31 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I highly recommend setting up radvd and radnsd on your linux servers instead of using dhcp and dnsmasq rrq |
| 04:30.55 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | You can even use stateless route advertisement to give your hosts a recursive resolver |
| 04:30.59 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | All without any state |
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| 04:35.02 | rrq | what does radnsd do? |
| 04:47.17 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Oh, it statelessly listens for RADNSS advertisements by ipv6 routers and updates /etc/resolv.conf accordingly |
| 04:49.01 | rrq | ah like dhclient ... though I could only find A BSD program under than name |
| 04:56.49 | rrq | my use cases are fairly static so dnsmasq to provision dynamic IP and a normal "dhcp" declaration in /etc/network/interfaces work fine for me |
| 05:06.14 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Dhcp is stateful though |
| 05:09.15 | rrq | do tyou mean that the typical implementations try to persist IP assignments? |
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| 05:15.41 | rrq | afaik the protocol itself is a simple request-response handshake at Ethernet level |
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| 06:17.14 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | rrq: stateless ipv6 uses persistent addresses unless you enable ipv6 privacy extensions |
| 06:17.22 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | It's generated from your mac address |
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| 06:47.08 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | rrq: can you help me test something? |
| 06:47.17 | rrq | sure |
| 06:47.32 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Can you join 'spyware' on https://www.nuegia.net/converse/ |
| 06:47.50 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Let me know if you have any problems on your browser |
| 06:48.25 | rrq | need to crank up my chrome I suppose :) |
| 06:48.53 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | What do you normally use? |
| 06:50.06 | rrq | my everyday browser palemoon 28.6.1 doesn't do html5 |
| 06:50.16 | rrq | or webrtc |
| 06:51.05 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Does the link not work on palemoon? |
| 06:51.40 | rrq | just get a blue background... seems to work fine in google-chrome-stable |
| 06:51.53 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | sigh |
| 06:52.11 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Well, for people like you there's native program access |
| 06:52.27 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I'm just testing a web portal for the people unable to install programs for whatever reason |
| 06:52.37 | rrq | "flicking the console switches" :) |
| 06:54.00 | rrq | ok. I'm viewing the chat ... should I do soemting more ? |
| 07:00.44 | rrq | I guess you're doing something ... I don't get access anymore |
| 07:02.42 | rrq | ok... TOM and me |
| 07:02.59 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Hmm? |
| 07:03.00 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Oh |
| 07:03.03 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Weird glitch |
| 07:03.05 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Can you try now? |
| 07:05.45 | rrq | ok; I ^C-ed first so my nick was taken ... |
| 07:12.36 | rrq | hmm page refresh ... required new nick again |
| 07:16.34 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | How about now? |
| 07:18.39 | rrq | I refreshed and it needs a new nick |
| 07:18.46 | rrq | need to go |
| 07:20.23 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Thanks anyways |
| 07:20.30 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I appreciate your help |
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| 07:27.32 | fling | After updating chimaera I got dhcp taking longer to get the address |
| 07:27.38 | fling | How to fix? |
| 07:27.45 | fling | Not happening with older chimaera :> |
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| 07:55.08 | fling | I forgot what was that app for editing runlevels |
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| 08:27.50 | rrq | sysv-rc-conf maybe |
| 08:28.10 | rrq | fling: ^^^ |
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| 08:44.11 | fling | rrq: thanks |
| 08:45.13 | fling | which number is for what btw? |
| 08:45.22 | fling | 1 2 3 4 5 0 6 S |
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| 09:05.57 | rrq | https://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel |
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| 18:21.15 | Garb0 | Hi, quick question, what kernel version are we on? |
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| 18:42.54 | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | The good one |
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| 18:47.39 | user___ | no libgcrypt update for devuan beowulf? There's an active exploit out. |
| 18:48.27 | user___ | I'm on 1.8.4-5 -- damn debian versions which are not the "real" upstream versions |
| 18:48.37 | user___ | Is this the latest / patched or not? |
| 18:49.07 | user___ | Ah, the hole only affects 1.9.0 |
| 18:53.35 | gnarface | Garb0: type: uname -a |
| 18:54.14 | Garb0 | gnarface, i'm not even on the distro, i was considering reinstalling, that's why i am asking. |
| 18:55.08 | gnarface | there are several kernel versions available... 4.19, 5.9, 5.10... i think maybe 4.9 still? |
| 18:55.20 | gnarface | it's just all the same kernels as debian |
| 18:55.55 | gnarface | it's literally the exact same kernel packages |
| 18:56.13 | gnarface | try the live image |
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| 21:02.25 | unixbsd | aitor_: the pdf editor is now ready to be used. this is interesting for your given examples. thank you again for your input for xpdfedit. sh compile.sh to make the binary. https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/xpdfedit # |
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