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08:02.54aitor_moin
08:06.02aitor_the delay during the boot with vdev was mostly related to the pvs command (a symlink to lvm) in the helpers of vdev, more concretly in disk.sh (line nº 598):
08:06.04aitor_https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/blob/master/vdevd/helpers/LINUX/disk.sh
08:07.43aitor_for some reason, pvs cannot find any device in /dev and vdev sits waiting for the result of the scanning
08:10.08aitor_therefore, symlinks like /dev/disk/by-label are not generated
08:10.30aitor_i'm looking for a workaround
08:11.12aitor_btw, another dependecy should be added to vdev; that is, libblkid1
08:11.37aitor_need to reboot, bbl
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08:44.20se7en/msgWQ+/zV2B0:fwLU~rliD\(#mIyJ3)K-GP8$VacA*z nickserv identify
08:44.23se7enfUCK
08:45.41onefangThat's the same combination on my luggage!
08:46.08Unit193se7en: /msg nickserv help set password
08:46.14se7enI fixed it
08:46.21Unit193\o/
08:46.32sixwheeledbeastooops
08:46.51onefangDamn, now I have to change it on my luggage to.
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12:31.20ham5urgIs there a howto for encrypting the user-dir and decrypting on login?
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12:38.16djphham5urg: like ecryptfs?
12:38.28djphham5urg: "don't" :D
12:38.36ham5urgWhy?
12:39.26djphham5urg: In my experience ecryptfs adds more headaches than anything.  LUKS / encrypting the entire partition (as part of the install process) is -- again, in my experience -- more straightforward and less prone to blowing up in my face.
12:45.55Unit193ham5urg: You can also check into libpam-mount and gocryptfs/cryfs, you could just do parts of home rather than the whole deal.
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19:45.54unixbsdI made a lot of work to create a devuan - live distribution or whatever the name with all necessary tool to run devuan out the box without having anything to install, from a live memstick or sd/mmc: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/netbsd-live/
19:51.57masonunixbsd: The naming there might be confusing. :)
19:53.11Tenkawaextremely
19:53.34Tenkawaand not appreciated by the netbsd/openbsd groups
19:53.39Tenkawalikely
19:55.36unixbsdwell, it does both, linux and bsd live at the same time.. historically... anyhow devuan-live will be born.
19:56.26sadsnorkunixbsd, the version history says "Version 4: is a smaller less than 1.9 TB" - is that really supposed to be 1.9TB?
19:57.14unixbsdTenkawa: even for me, this is why I try to keep a write and reminder into the README.md file, so that it describes. DEVUAN will be soon realeased. I am working on the squashfs file. a ramdisk is hell to make in linux compared to bsd.
19:58.05Tenkawaunixbsd: no… it is not a good idea at all to call it "netbsd" or "openbsd" anything
19:58.14unixbsdsadsnork: the problem that I found with the earlier version is that it did not fit into a 2TB memstick. So I reduced a bit the content to make it fit into a small memstick +
19:58.32Tenkawathat is *BSD terms… not linux
19:58.34unixbsdI did target to get a tar.gz of max 600 or 700 mb.
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19:58.56unixbsdIf you need smaller, there is a minirescue of 83 mb with bsd and linux, but less tools.
19:59.05sadsnorkShouldn't that be GB rather than TB? :-)
19:59.27unixbsdah.. yeap you are 100 pct right. GB ...
19:59.39unixbsdthank you
19:59.44sadsnorkhehehe I think that says something about just how cheap storage is these days! :-)
20:01.22sadsnorkPS: I should add that I appreciate when people try to accommodate smaller storage devices.  Just yesterday I was fiddling with a 2GB SD card... as amazing as that may be to some folks.
20:01.23unixbsd99 euros my new usb 5 TB, Expansion+ SEAGATE, 5tb to portable hddd with excluveise edition and 3 year limited warranty. I am happy of it
20:02.09unixbsdtry my website live images... theyy are pretty comfortable to survive in all condictions.
20:02.16unixbsdI have a live with 4 mb netbsd ;)
20:04.14plasma41unixbsd: 4MB Live NetBSD? Where can I find that?
20:04.38unixbsdyou need that really?
20:04.53unixbsdI can upload it these days, ok.
20:05.03fsmithredyeah, he really wants it.
20:05.30fsmithredunixbsd, please don't name your project 'devuan-live'. That already exists.
20:05.54fsmithredBut remixes are welcome.
20:06.02unixbsdoh, i dont bother of other names, this is my own place to remember my crap soft.
20:06.38unixbsdI neede to find a name that I can at least remember. I cannot remmember those name.s
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20:09.01plasma41unixbsd: I am interested in the Bootstrappable Builds effort at <https://bootstrappable.org>. They've gotten the bootstrap binaries down to 60MB, but the binaries still need to been run on a kernel. A 4MB Live NetBSD sounds like just the thing to start experimenting on.
20:09.18unixbsdBeing without Internet! yeap! the idea is that I want to have a memstick to travel. When I travel I have a ad-hoc lan raspberry pi with BSD as a file server, and a linux on sd or usb. this is the origin. No Net, no worries, all is there to make your system working.
20:10.39unixbsdplasma41: please explain me what is their tool /intentions,... I cannot figure out...  https://bootstrappable.org/
20:11.00unixbsdplasma41: what is it about?
20:11.30unixbsdbut man, no one want any longer to use GCC or all those craps
20:12.13plasma41unixbsd: hop on over to #devuan-offtopic and I'll tell you about it.
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22:40.14AbetHey all, thanks for devuan
22:41.21Abetcab i use all virtualisation options: lxc, kvm, docker on devuam?
22:41.34Abetcab i use all virtualisation options: lxc, kvm, docker on devuan?
22:43.17crashoverrideAbet: usually, to correct one character, people use either 'devuan*' (popular choice) or 's/vuam/vuan/' (sed expression)
22:43.33crashoverrideand yes.
22:44.04Abetfor me its just bad spelling and thanks again
22:44.22Abetmakes me happy
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23:07.31crashoverrideis there farmatito around?
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23:36.16kreyrenwhat is the easiest way for kid to install devuan/debian on their windows system with dualbooting?
23:36.25kreyrenthe currently don't even have a flash disk
23:36.26kreyrenx.x
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23:45.17golinuxcrashoverride: I have never seen farmatito on irc.  On the mail list only
23:45.29crashoverrideah
23:45.30crashoverrideok.
23:45.33crashoverrideThanks for the info.

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