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| 15:26.53 | Genesis | lo |
| 15:27.26 | Genesis | who have made the serial console interface on the JB ? |
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| 17:40.49 | sunrunner20 | ? |
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| 18:44.54 | Genesis | bonsoir |
| 18:45.26 | Genesis | good job joe_bleau |
| 18:45.28 | Genesis | i'll try to solder jtag and serial port last week |
| 18:45.30 | Genesis | and test your boot loader :) |
| 18:56.19 | joe_bleau | what? |
| 18:57.33 | joe_bleau | Genesis: If you're talking JuiceBox, prpplague is the man behind most of the recent breakthroughs, not me. |
| 18:57.51 | Genesis | sure |
| 18:58.03 | Genesis | but he is not here , and i already congratulated him ;) |
| 18:58.54 | joe_bleau | I've been too busy with work stuff to play with JB lately, and it's killing me. I have enough hardware to do the nand flash stuff, just not enough time to hack on it. |
| 18:59.51 | Genesis | first , i bought a usb key to do the nand flash hack |
| 19:00.04 | Genesis | not |
| 19:00.25 | Genesis | first i bought the mp3 kit with the sd card |
| 19:00.44 | Genesis | but ppr tells me i need a nand flash |
| 19:00.58 | Genesis | second i bought a usb key with nand flash |
| 19:01.06 | Genesis | now it seems to be not neccessary |
| 19:01.17 | Genesis | but i shall buy a xd card :) |
| 19:01.41 | joe_bleau | You will need some kind of nand flash to act as a cartridge. The JB won't boot from mmc. |
| 19:02.40 | Genesis | but it can with a xd card , isnt it ? |
| 19:02.49 | joe_bleau | Yep, xd is nand flash too. |
| 19:03.30 | Genesis | sure |
| 19:03.35 | Genesis | so |
| 19:03.55 | Genesis | have you made the serial connection ? |
| 19:04.06 | joe_bleau | '232? Sure. |
| 19:04.29 | Genesis | " you will need a level shifter circuit with something like the MAX233A or [WWW] MAX233 to convert to to rs232 signal levels." |
| 19:04.35 | Genesis | how to you make it ? |
| 19:04.40 | Genesis | withe a max233 ? |
| 19:04.44 | Genesis | or A version |
| 19:05.07 | joe_bleau | Datasheet for the part will have a typical application circuit, you can use that. |
| 19:05.50 | joe_bleau | I'd recommended a 3.3V converter, such as the 3232? |
| 19:06.18 | Genesis | yeap i'm not electronician :/ |
| 19:06.39 | Genesis | i'm a student who want to learn on 32bits µc |
| 19:07.35 | joe_bleau | JB isn't the easiest hardware to hack--quite a bit of soldering required to get the needed I/O connected. |
| 19:08.00 | Genesis | it 's cheapest |
| 19:08.11 | Genesis | and i've bought it from USA to do that |
| 19:08.16 | joe_bleau | Sure seems like it! |
| 19:10.13 | Genesis | this LCD board is a cheap solution |
| 19:10.54 | Genesis | if you're sure 3232 is the right chip, i'll try |
| 19:11.31 | joe_bleau | Should work. There's a bunch that will work, but I did have some trouble with a MAX202 at 115.2k baud. |
| 19:11.40 | joe_bleau | The 3232 is working nicely for me. |
| 19:12.09 | joe_bleau | And you can get it in DIP-16, so easy to work with. |
| 19:12.30 | Genesis | thx |
| 19:12.47 | Genesis | wich jtag cable do you use ? |
| 19:12.54 | joe_bleau | If you're just wanting to play with the box, compiler, and LCD, you can just do jtag |
| 19:12.56 | joe_bleau | Olimex. |
| 19:13.04 | Genesis | oki |
| 19:13.20 | Genesis | i'll try to do the jtag |
| 19:13.28 | joe_bleau | You don't need the serial or nand mods to run your own code on the box, |
| 19:13.36 | Genesis | and school , we use silabs IDE for mcs 51 |
| 19:13.38 | joe_bleau | as long as you don't mind being tethered to your PC |
| 19:13.46 | Genesis | oki |
| 19:14.13 | joe_bleau | Look at it this way--the serial port doesn't get you anything unless you already have jtag |
| 19:14.24 | joe_bleau | But you can do a lot with jtag and no serial... |
| 19:14.33 | Genesis | sure |
| 19:14.34 | joe_bleau | so, start with jtag and your cross compiler setup. |
| 19:14.41 | Genesis | yeap |
| 19:15.20 | Genesis | do you know a good jtag ide for linux ? |
| 19:16.39 | Genesis | i searsh a lot a plugin for eclipse , but no way |
| 19:16.45 | Genesis | i should write it myself :p |
| 19:33.35 | joe_bleau | Sorry, no. I've been using win2k for my dev work. (Which doesn't make me too popular in these parts, I'm sure...) |
| 19:33.51 | Genesis | hehe |
| 19:33.59 | joe_bleau | Exactly. ;-) |
| 19:34.16 | Genesis | there is nothing under linux |
| 19:34.22 | Genesis | it's a shame: |
| 19:34.26 | joe_bleau | Bound to be. |
| 19:34.26 | Genesis | :/ |
| 19:35.15 | Genesis | i dev on silabs mcs 51 board , the ide seems to be emulate by last wine :) |
| 19:36.21 | joe_bleau | I'm sure you'll run into a lot of sentiment that an IDE isn't needed, and that command line style gdb debugging is the way to go. |
| 19:36.36 | joe_bleau | But that's an almost religious argument |
| 19:36.37 | Genesis | sure not :D |
| 19:36.42 | joe_bleau | Sorta like the OS wars. |
| 19:36.44 | Genesis | i'm pro IDE |
| 19:36.56 | Genesis | but pro linux too |
| 19:37.13 | Genesis | i take a look at eclipse |
| 19:37.43 | joe_bleau | Might scan the yahoo group lpc2000 archives. |
| 19:37.48 | Genesis | so |
| 19:38.01 | Genesis | with jtag , i could load program into memory |
| 19:38.05 | joe_bleau | Someone did a write up on using eclipse to develop for those chips (arm microcontrollers) |
| 19:38.06 | Genesis | but with a good ui |
| 19:38.15 | joe_bleau | Not sure if they covered debugging or not. |
| 19:38.15 | Genesis | i think i could easy write the registers |
| 19:38.37 | Genesis | joe_bleau : i think it's not gpl stuff |
| 19:39.10 | joe_bleau | Stand by, I'll check... |
| 19:39.10 | Genesis | a hexadecimal editor with jtag capability |
| 19:39.34 | Genesis | read ram/rom and registers |
| 19:39.42 | Genesis | oki |
| 19:41.10 | Genesis | what about put a xd connector instead of wired the pin :) |
| 19:43.21 | Genesis | i'm software engeeneer , i could make some look at audio fct |
| 19:43.42 | Genesis | and some doc on linux embedded on the jb |
| 19:44.36 | joe_bleau | Genesis: you might want to read this paper: http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/ARM%20Cross%20Development%20with%20Eclipse%20version%202.pdf |
| 19:45.07 | Genesis | 8.9mp |
| 19:45.10 | Genesis | mo |
| 19:45.13 | joe_bleau | I think xd slot is the way to go...I'm doing xd to sm adapter, then sm slot to jb. |
| 19:45.14 | Genesis | :) |
| 19:45.39 | Genesis | what about a usb connector onboard ? |
| 19:45.52 | Genesis | to write the card ? |
| 19:46.15 | joe_bleau | You'd need a USB device to handle the interface. |
| 19:47.20 | Genesis | ftdmi chips |
| 19:47.30 | Genesis | or a cp from silabs |
| 19:47.36 | Genesis | or Ez cypress |
| 19:47.55 | joe_bleau | ok. |
| 19:48.02 | Genesis | from a rs232 |
| 19:50.17 | Genesis | i shall eat something |
| 20:40.47 | Genesis | TR |
| 20:40.49 | Genesis | RE |
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| 20:58.01 | Genesis | hey |
| 20:58.07 | Genesis | what about this !? |
| 20:58.32 | Genesis | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820163403R |
| 21:18.04 | Genesis | http://cgi.ebay.com/xD-Picture-USB-Mini-Card-Reader-Writer-4-fuji-olympus-B_W0QQitemZ7567093089QQcategoryZ48546QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ShippingPayment |
