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13:42.21prpplague~lart GPSFan
13:43.03prpplagueGPSFan: everytime i see you log in now, i heard in my mind's ear, "you killed kenny"
13:44.49GPSFanprpplague: from what did that quote arise?
13:44.55GPSFanmorning btw..
13:47.20prpplagueGPSFan: http://www.bryanlivingston.com/bryan_old/south_park/
13:47.26prpplagueGPSFan: south park
13:48.10prpplagueGPSFan: every episode kenny gets killed in some unusal and bizare way
13:48.17GPSFanprpplague: ah, never really was much into SouthPark.
13:49.12prpplagueGPSFan: me either, but i always heard it quoted,now when you log in i hear it
13:51.51GPSFanprpplague: I'll remember that ;>)
13:53.55GPSFanprpplague: did you ever do any flat panel interfacing with SA11xx ?
13:55.45prpplagueGPSFan: flat panel, i.e. lcd ?
13:56.42ShortWave"you bastards! You killed kenny!"
13:57.34ShortWaveprpplague: The funny part of the kenny killing phenomenon was when Kenny didn't die on one episode...and they ended it with "Somehow, something doesn't seem right"
13:57.47prpplaguehehe
13:58.44GPSFanprpplague: yes, I ran into a wierc comment in SA1100fb.c which (taken in isolation) seems to imply performance issues with PCMCIA when using large (>640 x 480) lcd panels.
13:58.58ShortWavehttp://www.wavsite.com/sounds/42369/south12.wav
13:59.22ShortWavehttp://www.wavsite.com/sounds/42369/south24.wav
14:07.40GPSFanprpplague: I was wondering if you had any experiences with that sort of thing?
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14:28.13prpplagueGPSFan: sorry was on the phone
14:28.22jbevrenyawn
14:28.31prpplagueGPSFan: yes that is correct
14:28.55prpplagueGPSFan: large lcd's with sa-11xx and some xscale are a problem
14:29.31prpplagueGPSFan: it all depends on your color depth
14:29.51prpplagueGPSFan: you can use a big 800x600 in 4 or 8 bit color without too much problem
14:30.12jbevrenick 8bit heh
14:30.22prpplagueGPSFan: otherwise you get lots of overtrace and refresh issues
14:30.25jbevrenprpplague: so its a bandwidth issue?
14:30.36prpplaguejbevren: yea
14:30.39jbevrenI see
14:30.49jbevrenI stared at a pixter in walmart for a while this weekend. hehe
14:30.59jbevrenspeaking of arm cpu's
14:31.15prpplaguethere should be extensive disscussion on the large lcd issue on the LAK mailing list
14:31.19prpplaguejbevren: hehe
14:31.27prpplaguejbevren: yea i need to get back hacking my pixter
14:31.35prpplaguejbevren: its been neglected lately
14:31.38jbevrenheh
14:31.47jbevrenwell, I knew I wouldnt od anythign with it unless someone else was
14:31.53jbevrenand I also knew you werwe workign on other stuff
14:31.56jbevrenso I didnt get it lol
14:31.59prpplaguehehe
14:34.17jbevrenI also need to sit down and start working with my fpga kit
14:34.23jbevrensigh :P
14:38.58GPSFanprpplague: thanks..
14:39.54prpplagueGPSFan: np
14:41.50prpplagueGPSFan: a good example is http://www.unicomp.com/products/inform-x/60/
14:42.03prpplagueGPSFan: they are using an xscale with a 640x480 lcd
14:42.37prpplagueGPSFan: problem is that if you run the lcd in 16bit color you get overtrace lines when you access the ethernet and try update the screen
14:43.19prpplagueGPSFan: most ppl who want a large lcd will generally use a dedicated lcd controler for the job
15:02.25jbevrenwtf's with that site
15:02.28jbevrenthe scroll wheel doesnt work
15:02.57prpplaguejbevren: crappy company and web site
15:03.11prpplaguejbevren: they have bunch of embedded java scripts and such in the page iirc
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15:27.26Genesisbonsoir
15:30.27jbevrenhmm
15:30.47jbevrenI just had a thought of putting mmc on the ppc boards gpsfan sorphin and I got a while back
15:30.54jbevrenit'd beat using my dang scsi disk heh
15:31.55prpplaguejbevren: has it got some boot flash?
15:33.08jbevrennod.
15:33.09jbevren8M of it
15:33.17jbevrenmtd0: 00800000 00020000 "Physically mapped flash"
15:33.17jbevrenmtd1: 00600000 00020000 "User Flash"
15:33.17jbevrenmtd2: 00100000 00020000 "Linux Kernel"
15:33.17jbevrenmtd3: 00100000 00020000 "PPCBoot Firmware and Variables"
15:33.26jbevrenI wrote the physmap layout :-D
15:33.29jbevrenmy first kernel mod
15:33.50jbevrenthe layout's from the manual.  My mtd1 has a jffs2 partition in it, but I currently use /dev/sda1 as /
15:34.10prpplaguejbevren: as long as you can find some gpio or a spi interface your good to go
15:34.17jbevrennod.
15:34.42jbevrenor I can make one..  There's a 'flash expansion' header that allows flash chips to be added
15:35.11jbevrenit has 3 pci slots too, which is where my scsi disk attaches (via a host adaptor of course)
15:35.16prpplaguejbevren: ahh, doing it via the address bus is a little more tricky
15:35.24prpplaguejbevren: its faster, but trickier
15:35.25jbevrenprpplague: yep. I know
15:35.34prpplaguehehe
15:35.35jbevrenaddress decoding, parallel to serial conversion
15:35.42jbevren(and vice versa)
15:35.50jbevrennot that I dont appreciate the advice
15:35.58prpplaguejbevren: nand or nor flash?
15:35.58jbevrenIve built simple devices for my c64 that attach to the cpu bus ;-)
15:36.37jbevrenI cant bring the difference to mind.  Its directly on the cpu bus, and is not the type that DoC's are.
15:36.40jbevren<PROTECTED>
15:37.20prpplaguejbevren: its probably nor
15:37.25jbevrenok
15:37.36jbevrenit can be (and is) used to bootstrap the system
15:37.42jbevrenthe primary firmware's in the last partition
15:37.49prpplaguejbevren: might think of just adding some NAND flash via the expansion header, something like a xD card interface
15:40.37jbevrenok wtf
15:40.49jbevrenlinux (x86) is going D-state listing /proc/$PID/cwd
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15:42.23psypetehey, cool channel!
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15:43.16prpplaguehehe
15:43.26jbevrencause I -know- reboot wont work
15:43.51jbevrenload of 1120
15:44.01jbevrencause processes I cant list are getting stuck on somethign I cant detect
15:49.29jbevrenhappened three times in the last 24h
15:49.31jbevrenirritating
17:34.33prpplaguejbevren: there is a util that comes with the chkrootkit called chkproc
17:34.47prpplaguejbevren: its a good util for finding hidden processes
17:51.20jbevrenits not a hidden process issue
17:51.27jbevrenits an issue where ls /proc/$PID/ goes D-state
17:51.36jbevrenbut yeah, chkproc is handy
17:51.48prpplagueahh didn't read well
17:54.50jbevren:)
17:59.02jbevrenthe problem is of course, killall steps through the process table, as does ps
17:59.05jbevrenso neither will work :-X
17:59.13jbevrenso you cant reboot peacefully
18:33.59ShortWaveNever reboot peacefully
18:34.04ShortWaveI always reboot violently.
18:44.17jbevrenit's difficult to reboot a server violently when its more than 1200 miles away
18:44.26ShortWavePfft
18:44.33ShortWaveWith the right equipment, it can done.
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19:24.53jbevrenthe Remote Net Hand? (C) userfriendly.org
22:46.38Genesisbonne nuit
23:10.14jbevrenhttp://www.izem.ru/atas/1/
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