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00:16.40*** join/#edev joe_bleau (n=joe_blea@adsl-69-152-214-30.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net)
04:11.50jbevren1gig would probably be ok :)
04:11.58jbevrenthe media isnt so dense as to be that volatile
04:12.36jbevrenhttp://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1896866,00.asp
11:34.29*** join/#edev Genesis (n=genesis@dev.aimao.org)
11:35.50Genesisbonjour
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15:05.45ShortWavepeepz
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15:06.03ShortWavehey prpplague
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16:35.03prpplagueGPSFan: hey you alive?
16:38.30ShortWaveprpplague: d00d
16:38.49ShortWaveprpplague: http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=9504
17:11.29prpplaguehehe cool
17:36.59GPSFanprpplague: barely, just finished dealing with some ice dams on our irrigation ditch. temp is all the way up to +14F. regular heat wave.
17:38.14prpplagueGPSFan: hehe yea they are closing my offices in dallas due to ice
17:38.55prpplagueGPSFan: crap i've done forgot what i wanted to ask you
17:38.56prpplaguehehe
17:39.41prpplagueGPSFan: oh yea i remember now
17:40.02GPSFan;>)
17:40.04prpplagueGPSFan: hey, i was talking to my boss about a pcb layout that i've done
17:42.16prpplagueGPSFan: its a small pcb with a db25 parallel port jtag interface that comes out to solder points, a 3.3 ttl rs-232 level shifter with a db9 connector, a 7805 5v regulator, and a sd/mmc card socket with solder headers
17:42.37prpplagueGPSFan: was thinking about making a bunch of them
17:42.45prpplagueGPSFan: kinda like a "hack accessory"
17:43.09GPSFansort of like the holly gates adapter?
17:43.42GPSFanonly more stuff on it.
17:46.20jbevrenholly gates adapter?
17:46.28jbevrenis that an extension bill uses to actually get some?
17:47.13jbevrenso whats the mmc socket for?
17:47.26jbevrenor is that a snap-off
17:47.36jbevren(I'd buy one)
17:52.39prpplagueGPSFan: yea
17:53.07prpplaguejbevren: bitbang spi interface for sd/mmc storage
17:53.32jbevrenprpplague: but on the parallel port for a pc?
17:53.48GPSFanprpplague: you have a prelim schematic?
17:53.49jbevrenor is the board designed to be snapped apart and used as module
17:53.50jbevrens
17:54.03prpplaguejbevren: no you are missing what i was saying, i probably wasn't very clean
17:54.29prpplagueGPSFan: yea, nothing fancy though
17:54.55jbevrenoh wait
17:54.55prpplaguejbevren: generally when you hack a device you are gonna need to wire up 4 things
17:55.00jbevrenright
17:55.03prpplaguejbevren: power, jtag, uart, and storage
17:55.04jbevrenand this is to be placed near the device?
17:55.13prpplagueyea
17:55.14jbevrenepiphamy if so
17:55.15jbevrenok.
17:55.20jbevrenthe light comes on :)
17:55.44jbevrenyeah I'd buy some :)
17:55.55GPSFanprpplague: sounds like something sparkfun might have/want/be interested inn.
17:56.00prpplagueGPSFan: the jtag dongle portion would be hg compatible
17:56.06jbevrenepsecially if the transcievers are 3.3v and 5v-friendly
17:56.19GPSFanjbevren: ahmen
17:56.27jbevrenGPSFan: :P
17:56.43jbevrenI'm working atm, so I only get a chance to half-read stuff
17:56.43jbevrenhehe
17:57.51prpplagueGPSFan: yea, well my employer has a sister company that is about to open up with a bunch of electronics
17:57.55prpplagueGPSFan: mid jan
17:58.05prpplagueGPSFan: just one things i was suggesting to have available
17:59.32prpplagueGPSFan: btw, you been reading the gplviolations.org mailing list?
18:01.22GPSFanprpplague: as long as this new company doesn't expect to make a pile of $ from sales of this sort of thing, it would be more of a service to the community. No, I haven't looked at gplviolations.org, will take a peek, what's up?
18:01.49prpplagueGPSFan: looks like things are heating up about the juicebox violations
18:02.11prpplagueGPSFan: turns out almost all of the software shipped on the cd with the juicebox contains gpl software
18:02.36GPSFaninteresting, what is the url, www.gplviolations.org didn't resolve for me.
18:03.16prpplaguesorry gpl-violations.org
18:15.06GPSFanprpplague: I'm not supprised that the juicebox sw has gpl components, in fact I'd not be supprised to find gpl components hidden in many commercial packages.
18:17.10prpplagueGPSFan: yea me either, but i'm amazed at how a company like mattel reaches to the fact that they aren't in compliance
18:17.21prpplagueGPSFan: they just stall and brush it off
18:17.25prpplaguevery frustration
18:17.43prpplagueGPSFan: i think gpl violations is probably the hottest topic with rev3
18:18.26GPSFanprpplague: corporate lawyer mentality.
18:21.09prpplagueGPSFan: yea when there is no finacial insentive(i.e. fines/legal fees) they don't care
18:36.38GPSFanprpplague: so back to your little hacker-friendly support board, you might want to allow for a 3.3V reg as well or in place of the 7805, maybe a seperate board that is only a 5v & 3.3v switcher. maybe a mini-sd card land pattern as well as the mmc/sd so you could populate either. boundless possibilities..
18:38.30prpplagueGPSFan: yea, i was trying to keep it pretty basic
18:38.38prpplagueGPSFan: but i could add the 3.3v pretty easy
18:42.06GPSFanprpplague: by all means make a basic one, without any bells&whistles, but I was foward thinking. about other smallish boards that hackers/hobbyists/etc. might have a need for.
18:42.55GPSFanprpplague: short run kinda stuff, like the dual serial board I did for the webpal.
18:47.28jbevrenhow about using a lm317 style regulator, and a jumper to change it between 5 and 3.3?
18:55.31prpplaguejbevren: that could work
18:55.35GPSFanjbevren: for prpplague's simple basic board that sounds like a plan.
19:00.36jbevrenits a matter of changing a reference resistor, so should be good :)
19:03.54jbevrenso all I need to do is dig out my 25pin extension cable :)
19:04.02jbevren(it has my byteblaster MV on it at the moment)
19:27.35jbevrenI should set up a board for my epm7064 and try to find my altera software
19:33.03fishheadturn on fox news, etc shots fired on airline
19:35.36jbevrenbig fucking deal
19:35.39jbevrenshots fired in chicago
19:35.42jbevrendifference = ?
19:35.44jbevrenaltitude?
19:35.46jbevrenooo'er.
19:36.17jbevrenwhats with all this stupid airline-centric paranoia?
19:36.45jbevrenever since Bush blatantly ignored the fact that a jumbo got flown into the first tower, its been stupid
19:39.00ShortWaveindeed
19:39.21ShortWaveThat just means someone managed to get a gun on the plane
19:40.24prpplaguenot like its difficuly
19:40.30prpplaguedifficult
19:47.03fishheadprpplague GPSFan: looks like things are heating up about the juicebox violations
19:47.03fishheadprpplague GPSFan: turns out almost all of the software shipped on the cd with the juicebox contains gpl software
19:47.05fishheadhahaha
19:47.07fishheadowned
19:48.23prpplague?
19:58.33ShortWaveprpplague: dude
19:59.03ShortWaveprpplague: behold my completed 2D challenge art http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=9504
20:07.53prpplaguecute
20:07.55prpplaguenice job
20:13.38fishheadTHE PASSENGER IS DEAD!!!!! W00H00 YOU TO HELL AND YOU DIE
20:14.12ShortWavedo you have to do that in multiple channels?
20:14.17ShortWaveheh
20:14.37ShortWaveHrm
20:14.46ShortWaveEvidently, the plane was still on the ground.
20:14.54fishheadyes I do in this case
20:14.58fishheadthis is too cool
21:32.29fishheadhttp://www.geeks.com/
21:56.38jbevrenhmm
21:56.42jbevren5gig CF harddisk
22:02.59ShortWave5 GB CF card?
22:03.00ShortWavewicked
22:03.05ShortWaveI've got a 2GB one for my camera.
22:03.43*** join/#edev sunrunner20 (n=jamesdoe@carrell27.august.net)
22:12.50jbevrenI stil luse a compaq ia1 in my kitchen
22:12.59jbevrenI was pondering the 5G for local storage heh
22:13.15jbevrenthat'd beat the 16M internal disk
22:13.20ShortWaveindeed
22:13.35ShortWaveI need to get a better handheld.
22:13.41jbevrenheh
22:13.44jbevrenI dont have a handheld
22:13.51jbevrenthe closest I have is a fujitsu subnotebook
22:16.43fishhead<flyback> oh the led xmas lights in my car finally died
22:16.44fishhead[17:16] <flyback> after 2+ weeks being turned on, on half dead c-batteries
22:16.44fishhead[17:16] <flyback> :P
22:22.12ShortWavehey fishhead
22:22.18ShortWaveyou see my latest update?
22:22.23fishheadno go ahead
22:22.25fishheadhit me :0
22:22.27ShortWavehttp://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=9504
22:22.33fishheaddid you see what I said about my xmas lights
22:22.39fishheadabout to install a 2nd set in the car :)
22:22.43fishheadand change the cells in the first
22:22.46fishheadthey lasted 2 weeks
22:22.47fishheadalways on
22:22.50fishheadin 20f
22:22.52ShortWaveK
22:23.13fishheadawesome
22:23.17fishheadi couldn't even draw the board
22:23.18fishhead:P
22:23.57ShortWaveheh
22:24.09ShortWaveI need to calculate my actual time estimate on that.
22:25.13fishheadbeautiful work though
22:25.18fishheaddon't tel anyone tell you otherwise
22:26.26ShortWaveIn truth, only one person has attempted.
22:26.40ShortWaveWhich makes me wonder. Most of the time I get at least 50 fuckers telling me how much I suck.
22:33.46ShortWaveI'm out

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