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01:13.03sunrunner20:p
01:13.05sunrunner20got a coolrunnerII design kit :p
01:13.49sunrunner20that means i use my dad's desktop now lol
01:13.50sunrunner20or laptop
01:13.55sunrunner20depending
01:14.01sunrunner20ISE 7.1/8.1
01:14.36sunrunner20and mmm
01:14.40sunrunner20its qfp
01:14.45sunrunner20hand solderable!
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18:19.05Genesisbonjour
18:41.16jbevrenwb genesis
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22:12.13jbevrensunrunner20: I read your comment about the xilinx kit. :)  Did you get the fpga kit too?
22:12.18jbevrenQOTD: Freudian slip: when you say one thing, and mean your mother
22:12.22sunrunner20nope
22:12.24sunrunner20though
22:12.33jbevrenI got the pair bundle
22:12.39sunrunner20i can get one
22:12.45sunrunner20dad works for xilinx
22:12.48jbevrenoh cool :)
22:12.52sunrunner20so he probally just grabed it off the shelf :p
22:12.58jbevrenare they ever going to release the 3e kit? :D
22:13.15sunrunner20not fimular w/ 3e
22:13.16jbevrenI want that one hehe
22:13.21jbevren500k gates on the devboard
22:13.28sunrunner20lol
22:13.36jbevrenthe spartan 3 kit (I have) is 200kgate
22:13.47jbevren3e's board also has 32M sdram and ethernet MAC
22:14.01jbevrenDigilent makes 'em I think
22:14.02sunrunner20spartian 4 kit has that
22:14.04sunrunner20i think
22:14.13jbevrenbut I buy them from the xilinx store
22:14.28sunrunner20look at the spartian kit
22:14.30sunrunner20unfortunatly
22:14.34sunrunner20i think its a %400 board
22:14.38jbevrenah
22:14.41jbevrenthis is the 'starter kit'
22:14.42sunrunner20dad's worked on a project that the fpga used 1mil gates :p
22:14.47jbevrenthey sell at $100ish
22:14.48sunrunner20*spartian 4
22:14.55jbevrenvirtex 4?
22:14.59sunrunner20whoops
22:15.00sunrunner20yea
22:15.01jbevrenI wasnt aware of a spartan4
22:15.05sunrunner20thre isn't
22:15.09jbevrenyeah, the virtex are cool, with ppc cpu's built-in
22:15.11sunrunner20spartians only go up to 3
22:15.18sunrunner20i get them confused a lot
22:15.43sunrunner20hell
22:15.50sunrunner20i've ven got access to ISE 8.1
22:15.53sunrunner20but
22:15.57sunrunner20not like i'll use it much
22:16.01sunrunner20its on dad's laptop
22:16.10sunrunner20has ise 7.1i on desktop
22:16.15sunrunner20which is what i'll use most the time probally
22:16.20sunrunner20now i wish i haden't uninstalled it from mine lol
22:16.27jbevrenhehe
22:16.37jbevrenI'm getting a system just for ISE
22:16.42sunrunner20rotfl
22:16.47jbevrenmy only windows system is currently a game box
22:16.49sunrunner20my dad bought a new comp for dev
22:16.58jbevrenand I dont have windows in my lab
22:17.19jbevren(and the ISE for linux is hell to get working on linux)
22:17.21sunrunner20p2 233mhz and 256 ram just doens't cut it for designes above miniscule
22:17.27jbevrenhehe
22:17.28sunrunner20really?
22:17.30sunrunner20its native to linux
22:17.32jbevrenp3 1300, 256M
22:17.37jbevrenreally
22:17.43sunrunner20yea
22:17.44jbevrenthe scripts wont even install on my system
22:17.59jbevrenredhat != linux btw :)
22:18.15sunrunner20:p
22:18.16jbevrenthere are a lot of redhat-assumptions in the script
22:18.28jbevrenI refuse to run redsoft.. er.. microhat linux
22:18.32jbevren:D
22:18.34sunrunner20lol
22:18.47jbevrennot to start a distro war
22:18.52sunrunner20pff
22:18.58jbevrenI just prefer debian..  It's done what I wanted for more than 5 years
22:18.58sunrunner20i don't have a favorite distro yet
22:19.13sunrunner20i'm going to run them all for a week
22:19.19jbevrenshop about.  Lots of people seem to like ubuntu
22:19.25jbevrenalthough I hate gnome :)
22:19.25sunrunner20yea
22:19.30sunrunner20i have those disks on the way
22:19.32jbevrenso look into kbuntu
22:19.32sunrunner20lol
22:19.35sunrunner20yup
22:19.37sunrunner20i have ubuntu disks
22:19.39jbevrengnome just doesnt have useful apps,
22:19.46sunrunner20and i'll immediatly update to kde
22:19.47jbevrenand "simplifies" the user interface beyond usability
22:19.52sunrunner20yup
22:19.59sunrunner20i know that
22:20.30jbevrenmy music system (midi sequencing) runs kde, debian sarge, and uses rosegarden :)
22:20.41jbevrenit deals nicely with my 32 midi ports
22:20.43sunrunner20i'm going to end up building an embedded linux install
22:20.51sunrunner20dedicated
22:20.56sunrunner20to music streams
22:20.56jbevren:)
22:21.04jbevrenyeah, I want to get something like a gumstix
22:21.09jbevrenbut with an IDE port
22:21.22jbevrenthey have a CF slot board, but that'll have a wireless card in it :X
22:21.24sunrunner20this will be a modified websurfer pro devloper board
22:21.31jbevrenahh
22:21.37jbevrenI need something small to go into my car ;-)
22:21.40sunrunner20:p
22:21.43sunrunner20ipod :p
22:21.47jbevren$300
22:21.57jbevrenpropriatery (spelling's bad) software
22:22.01jbevren<PROTECTED>
22:22.09sunrunner20thre are other options than itunes
22:22.11jbevrenand you cant interface the ipod into the alarm system
22:22.30jbevren802.11b login and remote start ;-)
22:22.51sunrunner20tehe
22:23.01sunrunner20one thing i'm doing w/ a pld
22:23.13sunrunner20noise managment
22:23.19sunrunner20my mobo has a SMbus header :p
22:23.23jbevren:)
22:23.29sunrunner20though
22:23.41sunrunner20for the next 2 weeks i'll be figureing out how to make a led blink lol
22:24.03jbevrenthe tutorial on xilinx's site shows how to make a 4bit counter
22:24.39sunrunner20working on details
22:24.41sunrunner20unfortunatly
22:24.46sunrunner20my desktop has no par port
22:24.46sunrunner20:\
22:24.49sunrunner20my lappy does
22:24.57sunrunner201.2ghz celly w/ 720 meg ram
22:25.04jbevrenIve never seen a PC without a paraport :)
22:25.07sunrunner20err
22:25.12sunrunner20760
22:25.40sunrunner20http://www.abit-usa.com/images/products/ic7-max3_lg.jpg
22:26.56jbevrenhttp://fruttenboel.verhoeven272.nl/HPepc/mainHP.html
22:26.56jbevren:D
22:27.18sunrunner20mobo w/o par :p
22:27.38jbevrenmy e-pc has a cdrom drive
22:27.43jbevrenit uses standard slimline units
22:28.00sunrunner20hehe
22:28.11sunrunner20my desktop atm...
22:28.16jbevrenI'm goign to get a dvd-rw for it :)
22:28.37sunrunner20http://sunrunner20.brainspore.net/files/imagegallerymodule/@random429e79e399d07/gallery2/newwiring_tac.jpg
22:29.58sunrunner20i mainly hear my hdd
22:30.00jbevrenhmm you could get a cheap pci parallel port
22:30.03sunrunner20yea
22:30.08sunrunner20but i don't want to block airflow
22:30.21sunrunner20i've got a 1.4gig tbird on the way to functioning
22:30.42jbevrenchieftec case :D
22:30.53jbevrenI have a p3/1400 on an old P2 board in my chieftec
22:30.56sunrunner20more or less
22:31.00sunrunner20really i bought it from antec
22:31.30sunrunner20its lian li or nothing for my next comp
22:32.01sunrunner20i really need to change my cpu though
22:32.05sunrunner20rev 1 presscot
22:32.10sunrunner20dumps a crapload of heat :(
22:32.16jbevrenheh
22:32.23jbevrentry an amd64 3200+
22:32.34sunrunner20that runs really cool in comparison
22:32.41sunrunner20i'm going to a rev 3 presscot
22:32.53sunrunner20aka, E0 stepping
22:33.38sunrunner20cpu is overclocked to 3.5ghz from 3.0 atm though
22:33.50sunrunner20going to eventually get it stable at 3.6
22:33.54sunrunner20aiming for 4.0
22:33.55sunrunner20but
22:34.01sunrunner20this cpu probally won't go that high
22:35.10sunrunner20my next system will probally be an opteron 175
22:53.58sunrunner20jbevren: check www.xilinx.com :p
23:06.47jbevrenwee :D
23:07.01jbevrenit was announced as "available" in july ;-)
23:07.03jbevrenso I had my doubts
23:07.35jbevrenxilinx front page says available
23:07.37jbevrenstore says not available
23:07.40jbevrenroight. :)
23:10.22jbevrenso
23:10.24jbevrenit's not available.
23:10.33jbevrendoubts reinstated :)
23:11.59sunrunner20:p
23:12.15sunrunner20i'll see what i can do :p
23:12.20jbevrenhehe
23:12.25jbevrenthey probably havent updated the store yet

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