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| 02:51.31 | fishhead | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060102-5877.html <-- hahahaha |
| 03:44.29 | fishhead | http://news.com.com/2300-7353_3-6015193-1.html |
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| 07:36.20 | fishhead | http://www.recycledgoods.com/ <--- just found them, dunno if it will have anything relevant to the channels I am but ... |
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| 13:09.47 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 13:09.56 | prpplague | welcome to 2006 |
| 13:10.16 | FireEgl | =) |
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| 13:14.09 | prpplague | greetings octel |
| 13:14.25 | prpplague | btw, you might want to register your nick with the chanserv |
| 13:14.26 | FireEgl | Hopefully I get my ZipIt today. =) I'll be attempting a MMC mod to it.. |
| 13:14.35 | prpplague | FireEgl: fun fun |
| 13:14.45 | prpplague | FireEgl: might fine soldering |
| 13:14.49 | prpplague | mighty |
| 13:15.04 | FireEgl | So I heard/saw.. |
| 13:17.52 | octel | prpplague: Does the JuiceBox wiki section need any high-res photos of anything? I have a very good camera with macro mode so I can take sharp, close-up photos |
| 13:19.02 | octel | http://tinyurl.com/bzayr |
| 13:19.06 | octel | http://tinyurl.com/7dhzc |
| 13:19.08 | prpplague | octel: can't think of anything right off the bat |
| 13:19.22 | prpplague | octel: i've got to find time to finish the buildroot for the juicebox |
| 13:19.39 | prpplague | i've been swampped with two major projects for work |
| 13:20.17 | prpplague | plus i've gotten totally burnt out as of late |
| 13:49.42 | octel | prpplague: Did you mail me a new password yet? |
| 13:55.21 | *** join/#edev GPSFan (n=Ken@65.121.49.208) |
| 13:55.24 | prpplague | i did not get your email address yet |
| 13:57.14 | GPSFan | prpplague: happy new year.. |
| 13:57.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: you too |
| 13:57.51 | prpplague | GPSFan: hope this year is better than the last |
| 13:58.34 | prpplague | i've got to spend more time tinkering around with usb devices |
| 13:59.16 | GPSFan | usb can be the coolest, and the most frustrating technology.. |
| 14:01.05 | prpplague | yea, i have some problems with the fundamentals of how the communication of usb works |
| 14:01.25 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm having a hell of a time with a legacy sa-1110 based device |
| 14:01.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm thinking about ditching the kernel driver and just doing something simple via libusb |
| 14:04.47 | GPSFan | prpplague: usb on the sa11xx series has had lots of issues for a long time, probably good that they are not currnet anymore, although Xscale has its own set of issues. |
| 14:06.14 | fishhead | hey :P |
| 14:06.38 | prpplague | fishhead: gee thanks |
| 14:06.41 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea i know |
| 14:06.56 | prpplague | GPSFan: but i can't even get the basic stuff that is know to work properly working |
| 14:07.18 | fishhead | prpplague, I might sell off my juiceboxes I have like 2-3 slightly used and beat up and I think 2 still in packages |
| 14:07.26 | prpplague | GPSFan: i've the basic usb net up, but i get lots of interrupts on the host side |
| 14:07.34 | fishhead | I just lost $500 on my palm pilot it looks like |
| 14:07.50 | fishhead | the extended warrenty I bought might not cover accidental damage |
| 14:07.58 | prpplague | fishhead: caught me at a bad time, i'm broke for a few weeks due to xmas spending |
| 14:08.13 | fishhead | no dude it's going to be a while anyways |
| 14:08.18 | fishhead | before I can get to that |
| 14:08.23 | fishhead | just letting you know :) |
| 14:08.38 | fishhead | or if you know anyone else wanting one |
| 14:08.53 | fishhead | I fear they are just too small for me to work on and just going to sit here |
| 14:09.13 | fishhead | also going to sell off some dead laptops to online part stores for the display value :P |
| 14:09.36 | fishhead | shame there is no damn easy way to interface a laptop lcd :/ |
| 14:10.27 | octel | fishhead: You could buy an LCD module, but they're expensive (about $200) |
| 14:11.02 | fishhead | yeah I know, not worth it I could get a flat panel for that much |
| 14:11.12 | GPSFan | prpplague: the host being other than the sa11xx I take it. what kernel version? |
| 14:11.19 | fishhead | the only option might be a mini-itx or sbc that has a lvds header |
| 14:12.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: 2.4.9 and 2.4.20 |
| 14:12.59 | prpplague | GPSFan: on the host |
| 14:13.09 | prpplague | GPSFan: for the sa-1110 device its 2.4.17 |
| 14:13.30 | fishhead | another problem is, as I am approaching 32 it appears my hearing and eyesight is starting to go, so even less chance of being able to solder hack anything |
| 14:14.01 | prpplague | jbevren: ?? |
| 14:14.01 | jbevren | fishhead: I know people in their 50s that do the stuff |
| 14:14.09 | jbevren | you just need a magnifier |
| 14:14.13 | fishhead | yeah well dude my hands shake and stuff :/ |
| 14:14.18 | jbevren | prpplague: 2.4.<18 has a serious issue: |
| 14:14.26 | fishhead | jbe that might be an idea |
| 14:14.27 | jbevren | applications request to drop root priveliges |
| 14:14.31 | jbevren | the kernel says ok |
| 14:14.34 | jbevren | but doesnt drop the root privs |
| 14:14.38 | jbevren | :) |
| 14:14.42 | jbevren | sendmail discovered the issue |
| 14:14.47 | jbevren | or, the authors did |
| 14:14.49 | fishhead | jbevren, that was probably one of the smartest things linux ever did |
| 14:14.52 | fishhead | capabilities |
| 14:14.53 | prpplague | jbevren: yea, not like someone is gonna hack a small handheld |
| 14:15.00 | jbevren | prpplague: Too true |
| 14:15.00 | fishhead | drop root for everything you don't need |
| 14:15.08 | jbevren | and even so, it leaves a handy hole for us :) |
| 14:15.31 | fishhead | I might try solder hacking my dead palm IIIxe the rom is corrupt and I have another unit with the same rom and also another one coming |
| 14:15.40 | fishhead | it's tsop flash, going to be tricky |
| 14:15.57 | jbevren | oh |
| 14:16.01 | fishhead | how the hell do you solder one of those with a iron anyways |
| 14:16.02 | jbevren | maybe you can jtag it? |
| 14:16.08 | fishhead | actually yes |
| 14:16.13 | fishhead | you ground pin ea while hitting reset |
| 14:16.22 | fishhead | the m68k starts in serial bootstrap mode |
| 14:16.26 | jbevren | Oh |
| 14:16.27 | jbevren | nice. |
| 14:16.33 | fishhead | you can use a terminal program to upload code |
| 14:16.33 | jbevren | like dbg on the zipit |
| 14:16.36 | jbevren | yep. |
| 14:16.39 | fishhead | and people have done this |
| 14:16.43 | jbevren | you dont need to solder it |
| 14:16.47 | fishhead | but i can't get step by step procedure |
| 14:16.51 | fishhead | :/ |
| 14:16.52 | jbevren | you just need to make sure the wire's held while it's reset |
| 14:16.59 | fishhead | you have to set cou regs and tsuff to get it going |
| 14:17.02 | fishhead | cpu regs |
| 14:17.18 | prpplague | jbevren: we don't have any incoming network services on it any way |
| 14:17.21 | fishhead | I also going to have to repair a very tiny trace |
| 14:17.22 | jbevren | solder a wire to a pair of sewing needles, and have a friend hold em on the pads while you hit reset :) |
| 14:17.25 | jbevren | prpplague: Tis a joke :) |
| 14:17.26 | fishhead | i scraped off thinking I had to |
| 14:17.37 | fishhead | jbevren, getting it into bootstrap is easy |
| 14:17.40 | fishhead | even holding a pin |
| 14:17.43 | fishhead | the problem is after that |
| 14:17.48 | fishhead | no one will give me the procedure |
| 14:17.50 | fishhead | no one knows |
| 14:17.55 | prpplague | jbevren: oh sorry |
| 14:17.56 | jbevren | or if youre good with chopsticks, just use your ammeter toshort it :) |
| 14:18.01 | fishhead | I have a script for a dragonball based linux devel board but it's not the same |
| 14:18.02 | jbevren | prpplague: :) |
| 14:18.03 | prpplague | jbevren: haven't had enough coffee this morning |
| 14:18.07 | fishhead | prpplague, |
| 14:18.11 | GPSFan | prpplague: when I got the usb2 card going on my A3000 I found that there were a lot of usb isues in pre 2.4.20-25 kernels. you might try a more current one. |
| 14:18.12 | fishhead | you need to look into energy drinks |
| 14:18.18 | fishhead | they rock for us adhd folks |
| 14:18.23 | prpplague | jbevren: the coffee pot switch broke, so i had to do a gerry rigging job |
| 14:18.26 | fishhead | way more caffiene than coffee |
| 14:18.41 | fishhead | in fact i am going to drive 5 mins to go get one |
| 14:18.56 | jbevren | fishhead: for adhd's its different |
| 14:19.01 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea i tried a newer one just for kicks, but due to legacy reasons i'm stuck with the versions i have now |
| 14:19.03 | jbevren | caffiene in small amounts makes you alert |
| 14:19.07 | fishhead | yep |
| 14:19.09 | fishhead | I know |
| 14:19.10 | jbevren | caffiene in large amounts slows you down. |
| 14:19.17 | fishhead | no |
| 14:19.19 | fishhead | makes me better |
| 14:19.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: what kind of problem did you have with the usb on your a3000 ? |
| 14:19.25 | jbevren | I somehow doubt prpp needs slowed down atm :) |
| 14:19.29 | fishhead | I spent $1000 last yr on energy drinks |
| 14:19.33 | fishhead | it was worth it |
| 14:19.35 | jbevren | fishhead: I know. The slowdown is good for adhd's. :P |
| 14:19.40 | fishhead | convinced me to go back on stims |
| 14:19.48 | prpplague | jbevren: actually fishhead is correct for once |
| 14:19.50 | fishhead | adderal XR this time |
| 14:20.00 | jbevren | we studied caffiene in college :P |
| 14:20.02 | octel | fishhead: Why drink energy drinks? Nasty taste, unnecessary fluids, etc. Just chew caffeine pills. |
| 14:20.13 | fishhead | jbevren, the caffiene tells the impulse controller part of the brain to "WAKE THE FUCK UP DAMMIT!" |
| 14:20.32 | fishhead | hence the slowdown is actually your governors working again |
| 14:20.51 | fishhead | adderal is basically meth/speed |
| 14:21.13 | prpplague | hehe its a level 2 controlled substance |
| 14:21.14 | octel | fishhead: dextroamphetamine to be exact. Meth = methamphetamine |
| 14:21.23 | fishhead | prpplague, yes and a pain in the ass to get refilled |
| 14:21.32 | prpplague | your telling me |
| 14:21.36 | fishhead | it's almost like nazi germany "YOUR PAPERS PLEASE" |
| 14:21.51 | fishhead | I mean I understand why, it's to prevent retards from selling it as street drugs |
| 14:21.54 | fishhead | but still pain in the ass |
| 14:22.17 | GPSFan | prpplague: bummer. the ehci driver tended to lock up (tm) on transfers whereas the ohci uchi drivers worked ok, but slowly. This was a usb2 issue I think, but there were so many changes in all the related code I figured the newer kernels might be a good idea. |
| 14:22.52 | fishhead | GPSFan, I am sure if anyone can solve it, it's your guys |
| 14:22.54 | fishhead | :) |
| 14:23.41 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea i'm using a ohci driver |
| 14:24.00 | prpplague | i've got to find a solution quick too |
| 14:24.09 | jbevren | in 2.4.14 (patched by debian for the root perms bug), I could use ohci and apic+smp |
| 14:24.14 | fishhead | <rah> alt.sex.bondage.particle.physics |
| 14:24.17 | fishhead | hahaha |
| 14:24.23 | jbevren | in 2.4.18, I couldnt use the apic with smp, cause the usb UHCI driver wouldnt work |
| 14:24.33 | prpplague | fishhead: keep in down |
| 14:24.44 | prpplague | jbevren: interesting |
| 14:24.49 | jbevren | fishhead: no more caffiene for you |
| 14:24.53 | prpplague | jbevren: these are single processor machines though |
| 14:25.03 | jbevren | prpplague: Just reinforcing ken's note about funky usb |
| 14:25.05 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:25.15 | fishhead | :( |
| 14:25.19 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 14:25.24 | jbevren | I eventually moved to 2.6, which fixed it |
| 14:25.36 | prpplague | jbevren: yea i'm in legacy hell though |
| 14:25.42 | jbevren | ah |
| 14:25.43 | prpplague | jbevren: i need something simple |
| 14:25.49 | jbevren | some arm thing? |
| 14:25.54 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 14:26.16 | prpplague | jbevren: probably have a kernel module on the handheld, and some user space daemon on the host side |
| 14:27.07 | prpplague | jbevren: i need something on the host side that can do some good error correction due to an interrupt and reset |
| 14:34.01 | jbevren | is the handheld the 'host'? |
| 14:40.09 | jbevren | 40 mins into the day, and I still cant do anything |
| 14:40.47 | jbevren | then I'll find out who shut the vpn down ;-) |
| 14:41.22 | prpplague | jbevren: handheld is the slave, pc is the host |
| 14:41.42 | jbevren | prpplague: ah. network gadget? |
| 14:41.51 | jbevren | or custom device type |
| 14:42.12 | prpplague | jbevren: yea my initial tests were as a network gadget |
| 14:42.13 | jbevren | gumstix use the network gadget heh |
| 14:42.44 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 14:43.57 | prpplague | jbevren: like i said main problem seems to be noise |
| 14:44.17 | prpplague | jbevren: the slave seems fine, just get lots of interrupts from the host controller |
| 14:45.31 | jbevren | have you tried terminating the interrupt line? |
| 14:45.46 | jbevren | maybe its ringing due to line length and resonance |
| 14:47.06 | prpplague | jbevren: tried using a 5 inch usb cable |
| 14:48.31 | jbevren | I misunderstood I think.. |
| 14:48.47 | jbevren | youre getting excessive interrupts from the slave controller? |
| 14:49.16 | jbevren | not that I can be horribly helpful anyway :) |
| 14:50.45 | prpplague | jbevren: no from the host |
| 14:50.55 | prpplague | jbevren: well 2@#$@#$ |
| 14:51.04 | prpplague | jbevren: i guess i'm not explaining well today |
| 14:51.35 | prpplague | jbevren: the host controller(on the pc) is reporting interrupts |
| 14:51.50 | jbevren | Ohh |
| 14:51.57 | jbevren | dunno then :( |
| 14:52.01 | jbevren | I dont know usb at all |
| 14:52.09 | jbevren | well, I know you plug it in and hope linux has a driver for it ;-) |
| 14:52.11 | jbevren | brb |
| 14:52.13 | prpplague | jbevren: hehehe |
| 14:55.22 | GPSFan | prpplague: have you tried the same slave with a different host (maybe newer kernel on the host)? |
| 14:56.44 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea wide range of items |
| 14:56.50 | prpplague | GPSFan: pretty much the same issue |
| 14:57.03 | prpplague | GPSFan: just to various degree |
| 14:57.12 | prpplague | GPSFan: some boxes seem more tolerant |
| 14:57.23 | GPSFan | prpplague: and the target host with a different slave (newer kernel again)? |
| 14:57.41 | prpplague | GPSFan: different slave? |
| 14:57.58 | GPSFan | your handheld. |
| 14:58.13 | jbevren | re |
| 14:58.39 | prpplague | GPSFan: you mean with a different handheld of the same model? |
| 14:59.51 | GPSFan | prpplague: just any other usb slave running the usb networking code, to see if it is related to your specific slave hw and or sw. |
| 15:00.38 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, same model of handheld has the same problem, similiar sa-1110 handheld doesn't |
| 15:00.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: so i'm fairly certain its hardware problem |
| 15:01.05 | prpplague | GPSFan: just need to figure out some way to compensate for it in the code |
| 15:01.19 | GPSFan | ah, similar sa1110's running the same kernel version? |
| 15:01.40 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:02.04 | GPSFan | prpplague: and the handheld is a sa1110 or sa1100? |
| 15:02.47 | prpplague | 1110 |
| 15:02.54 | prpplague | both the same |
| 15:02.59 | prpplague | with similiar udc layout |
| 15:03.33 | GPSFan | prpplague: k, bbl, lots to do today... |
| 15:03.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: np, later |
| 15:31.29 | fishhead | for sale |
| 15:31.34 | fishhead | 1 lime green 8 meg juicebox |
| 15:31.38 | fishhead | as is in pieces |
| 15:31.49 | fishhead | after smashing with fist for failure to respond to sd card inserted |
| 15:32.21 | sunrunner20 | serious? |
| 15:32.46 | fishhead | yeah about to |
| 15:32.51 | fishhead | firsat my $500 pda fires |
| 15:32.54 | fishhead | and now this |
| 15:33.09 | sunrunner20 | what did the pda do? |
| 15:34.10 | fishhead | I canucked the digitizershit |
| 15:34.13 | fishhead | it's the adaptor |
| 15:34.28 | sunrunner20 | huh? |
| 15:34.34 | sunrunner20 | what |
| 15:34.36 | fishhead | sd to jb cart adaptor is bad |
| 15:34.52 | sunrunner20 | so offset is so outta whakc you cant use it? |
| 15:35.09 | fishhead | yeah you touch one spot and it registeres another |
| 15:35.14 | fishhead | if you pick it up it goes nuts |
| 15:35.16 | fishhead | and now I find ou |
| 15:35.22 | fishhead | the $60 extended warrenty I bought |
| 15:35.26 | fishhead | doesn't cover accidental |
| 15:35.32 | sunrunner20 | um |
| 15:35.35 | sunrunner20 | thats not accidental |
| 15:35.38 | sunrunner20 | you didn't do that |
| 15:35.40 | sunrunner20 | its a known issue |
| 15:35.53 | fishhead | no I knocked my palm 2 feet off the ground |
| 15:35.58 | sunrunner20 | pff |
| 15:36.01 | sunrunner20 | thats nothting to do with it |
| 15:36.20 | sunrunner20 | i've droped my T|T 3' onto stone |
| 15:37.07 | sunrunner20 | try it |
| 15:37.10 | sunrunner20 | go in and get anew one |
| 15:37.15 | sunrunner20 | either that |
| 15:37.21 | sunrunner20 | or hardrest |
| 15:37.31 | sunrunner20 | it brings up the digitizer config |
| 15:37.47 | sunrunner20 | mine's off by ~1mm unless i config |
| 15:37.48 | fishhead | yeah you can't even do that now |
| 15:37.51 | fishhead | no dude |
| 15:37.57 | fishhead | it's acting like it's cracked |
| 15:38.01 | sunrunner20 | eek |
| 15:38.45 | sunrunner20 | well fishhead, dropps are standard for pdas. don't consider it accidental in your mind. |
| 15:39.14 | sunrunner20 | if it doesn't survive a 2' drop there was soemthing defective in teh first place |
| 15:39.34 | fishhead | well it might have been harder |
| 15:39.43 | fishhead | see it was on top of my case and I kicked the whole thing in my sleep |
| 15:39.45 | sunrunner20 | onto what surface |
| 15:39.49 | fishhead | and I woke up to the crash |
| 15:39.51 | fishhead | concrete |
| 15:39.57 | octel | JuiceBoxWiki has been updated: http://www.elinux.org/wiki/JuiceBoxSerial?action=show |
| 15:40.17 | sunrunner20 | was there sidewas momentum? |
| 15:40.30 | fishhead | probably |
| 15:40.40 | sunrunner20 | then it was kinda borked in the first place |
| 15:41.09 | sunrunner20 | i've found skippy stuff a lot less tramatic to equipment thatn a dead drop |
| 15:41.45 | sunrunner20 | and look at it this way |
| 15:41.45 | fishhead | yeah you know what it was acting weird a few times |
| 15:41.49 | fishhead | it would trip at random |
| 15:42.00 | sunrunner20 | ^_^ |
| 15:42.09 | sunrunner20 | i suspect somewhere in there was a halfassed solder connection |
| 15:42.44 | sunrunner20 | all the fall did was make the warrantee cover it :p |
| 15:42.51 | sunrunner20 | its a PITA to prove intermentent |
| 15:42.57 | prpplague | octel: nice updated pics |
| 15:43.08 | sunrunner20 | really easy when its f'd constantly :p |
| 15:43.53 | sunrunner20 | where'd you get the socket -_- |
| 15:44.53 | fishhead | got it :) |
| 15:45.04 | fishhead | HAHAHA |
| 15:45.05 | fishhead | it crashed |
| 15:45.11 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 15:45.22 | sunrunner20 | dude, go get your new pda :p |
| 15:45.23 | fishhead | I don't think it likes this 1 gig sd card |
| 15:45.53 | fishhead | I have to call and get receipt printed and find out about the warrenty |
| 15:46.02 | sunrunner20 | :p |
| 15:46.25 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 15:46.29 | jbevren | fishhead: Its been dead a week and you ahvent called? |
| 15:46.30 | sunrunner20 | did the concreat scratch it to hell? |
| 15:46.59 | fishhead | jbe yeah I chickened out |
| 15:48.21 | sunrunner20 | prpplague: is there a schematic for the converter cards yet? |
| 15:49.13 | fishhead | jbevren, going to call after I get back home |
| 15:49.21 | sunrunner20 | atta boy |
| 15:49.32 | octel | sunrunner20: converter for what? |
| 15:49.46 | sunrunner20 | the SD->cartridge slot |
| 15:49.57 | fishhead | yeah dude it's been on the page for ages |
| 15:50.03 | fishhead | how to hack a xd card or something on it |
| 15:50.10 | octel | sunrunner20: I made the schematic for it :) |
| 15:50.26 | fishhead | I might end up trading juiceboxes for someone to make converters for me |
| 15:50.33 | fishhead | we will see |
| 15:50.45 | sunrunner20 | shhh |
| 15:50.48 | sunrunner20 | :p |
| 15:51.22 | sunrunner20 | i wonder how i can get those edges.... |
| 15:52.00 | sunrunner20 | exect there are no resistors in it :\ |
| 15:52.20 | octel | sunrunner20: I connected my MMC to the back of the juicebox connector, leaving it free for plugging in normal carts |
| 15:52.45 | sunrunner20 | what are the resistors for on the pcb? |
| 15:53.02 | fishhead | wow the bootloader for juicebox actually looks for mp3 files before deciding what os to boot internally |
| 15:53.07 | octel | sunrunner20: You don't need any resistors |
| 15:53.18 | sunrunner20 | then why are the on the pcb -_- |
| 15:53.41 | octel | sunrunner20: It works fine without them. Pretend they don't exist :) |
| 15:56.14 | fishhead | ugh |
| 15:56.23 | fishhead | copy files to 512 meg sd faster! |
| 15:57.53 | fishhead | btw |
| 15:58.10 | fishhead | local circuit city had mp3 kits down to $10, kmart has plenty too but last time I checked they were still $20 |
| 15:58.19 | fishhead | if they get belong $10 i WILL PRobably buy a few |
| 15:58.31 | fishhead | cause they are worth it for the usb sd reader and 32 meh sd = flash drive |
| 15:58.32 | prpplague | fishhead: mp3 kits for the jb? |
| 15:58.34 | fishhead | yes |
| 15:58.38 | prpplague | ahh |
| 16:00.17 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:00.28 | fishhead | octel, mabye the resistors are there as current limiters |
| 16:07.59 | fishhead | got it |
| 16:08.01 | fishhead | playing mp3s |
| 16:08.03 | fishhead | :) |
| 16:08.14 | fishhead | it's screwing up a lot claiming a bunch of 128kbit mp3s are not 128kbit |
| 16:08.18 | fishhead | but it's still better than nothing |
| 16:11.23 | fishhead | I will have to download that app again that turns text into a jpg |
| 16:11.31 | fishhead | so you can sorta read text files on the jb |
| 16:12.26 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:12.26 | fishhead | bbl |
| 16:18.07 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 16:18.08 | sunrunner20 | fuck yea |
| 16:18.20 | sunrunner20 | $71+shipping to replace the soldering handpeice my dad borked |
| 16:23.08 | sunrunner20 | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/JuiceBoxSerial?action=show |
| 17:01.00 | *** join/#edev Genesis (n=genesis@dev.aimao.org) |
| 17:02.31 | Genesis | bonsoir |
| 17:04.06 | sunrunner20 | morning |
| 17:04.13 | sunrunner20 | anybody feel like explaining a little bit of something to me |
| 17:44.44 | sunrunner20 | nm |
| 18:18.39 | fishhead | ouch |
| 18:18.43 | fishhead | is he paying for it |
| 18:25.19 | fishhead | http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20060102220053.html <---- WHAT THE CANUCK? |
| 18:38.57 | sunrunner20 | i think he will |
| 18:38.59 | sunrunner20 | lol fishhead |
| 18:39.05 | sunrunner20 | that should have been done years ago |
| 18:39.19 | sunrunner20 | they need to release each video card in both configrueations |
| 18:41.24 | sunrunner20 | sli =owns |
| 18:41.26 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 18:41.39 | sunrunner20 | have i told ya'll about what one of my freinds wants me to build him? |
| 18:42.16 | beeble | a pony! |
| 18:42.35 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 18:42.38 | sunrunner20 | a bleeding edge gamer |
| 18:42.43 | sunrunner20 | ~$4300 atm |
| 18:43.53 | beeble | sick guy, half a year and you get it for 2000$ ;) |
| 18:44.20 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 18:44.26 | sunrunner20 | ok |
| 18:44.28 | sunrunner20 | it gets better |
| 18:44.59 | sunrunner20 | since i'm doing it for just helping mainly (not offically commissioned unless they want me to) I'm going to give them a list of parts to order |
| 18:45.10 | sunrunner20 | knowing this kids mom |
| 18:45.18 | sunrunner20 | she'll order doubble >_< |
| 18:45.42 | sunrunner20 | and she'll say she felt like buying me one too since i'm builiding it for them... |
| 18:45.50 | beeble | lol |
| 18:46.40 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 18:46.50 | sunrunner20 | and the 4.3k includes $600 of watercooling |
| 18:48.08 | beeble | maybe you can get a liquid nitrogen cooling |
| 18:48.25 | sunrunner20 | no |
| 18:48.27 | sunrunner20 | thats impratical |
| 18:48.42 | sunrunner20 | this kid wants a bleeding edge 24/7 quiet system |
| 18:49.04 | Genesis | bonne nuit |
| 18:49.29 | beeble | hehe, 6am at the morning and you get waked by the transporter which refilles your nitrogen tank ;) |
| 18:49.41 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 18:49.42 | sunrunner20 | exactly |
| 18:49.47 | sunrunner20 | why i'm NOT doing that |
| 18:49.52 | sunrunner20 | watercooling is extreem enouhg |
| 18:49.54 | sunrunner20 | besides |
| 18:50.06 | sunrunner20 | THE loudest thing in it will be the computer will be the second gen raptor drive |
| 18:50.51 | beeble | solid state drives! |
| 18:51.01 | beeble | there are some with a few gigabyte |
| 18:51.17 | beeble | not so good for a battlefield2 installation, but its quite ;) |
| 18:53.30 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 18:53.36 | sunrunner20 | i know :p |
| 19:09.31 | jbevren | sunrunner20: my raptors are quiet |
| 19:09.32 | jbevren | I have 2. |
| 19:09.37 | jbevren | theyre shock-mounted tho |
| 19:09.43 | jbevren | so their vibrations dont affect the chassis much |
| 19:12.49 | sunrunner20 | define quiet |
| 19:13.01 | sunrunner20 | by quiet i mean can't hear at 3' |
| 19:13.06 | sunrunner20 | execpt seek noise |
| 19:21.04 | jbevren | heh |
| 19:21.08 | jbevren | I cant hear the drives |
| 19:21.15 | jbevren | I have to look at the front of thte case to see its LED |
| 19:21.20 | jbevren | I use an antec sonata fyi |
| 19:22.42 | sunrunner20 | heh |
| 19:22.47 | sunrunner20 | i'll be using a lian li :p |
| 19:37.09 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:37.12 | jbevren | showoff |
| 19:37.14 | jbevren | :D |
| 19:37.18 | jbevren | I kinda like my case |
| 19:37.30 | jbevren | even though my motherboard fans are loud as heck, its not too bad with the sides on |
| 22:22.02 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:22.04 | jbevren | http://www.gifford.co.uk/~coredump/inst.htm |
| 22:22.05 | jbevren | I have a 1602a |
| 22:31.39 | jbevren | maybe |
| 22:31.41 | jbevren | er |