| 01:25.01 | Genesis | bonne nuit |
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| 01:55.36 | fishhead | hey joe again |
| 01:55.44 | joe_bleau | 'sup? |
| 01:55.44 | fishhead | damn you left last time I was going to help you with something you said |
| 01:55.47 | fishhead | now I don't remeber :( |
| 01:56.03 | joe_bleau | Probably not by choice...dsl gets wonky from time to time |
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| 03:44.29 | jbevren | nice. the gp2x has jtag on the EXT port |
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| 04:43.26 | BradM | g'night |
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| 05:57.14 | CHodapp | BradM? Where are you? They're all trying to talk to you. |
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| 05:59.06 | BradM | moron |
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| 11:35.02 | Genesis | bonjour |
| 12:35.58 | fishhead | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28849 |
| 12:54.09 | BradM | fishhead omg |
| 12:54.27 | BradM | ROFL liek omg |
| 12:54.33 | BradM | haha aol talk ^^ |
| 12:54.38 | fishhead | :P |
| 12:54.43 | fishhead | bbl bro, need more sleep :P |
| 12:54.54 | BradM | later |
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| 13:04.16 | prpplague | morning folks |
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| 14:09.07 | jbevren | wb |
| 14:09.39 | prpplague | jbevren: thanks |
| 14:09.48 | prpplague | jbevren: closed out the wrong window |
| 14:09.58 | jbevren | lol :) |
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| 14:10.05 | jbevren | . o O ( doh! ) |
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| 14:46.10 | prpplague | morning folks |
| 14:49.34 | jbevren | Morning |
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| 18:10.22 | *** topic/#edev is discussion for small embedded device development and hacking || http://www.elinux.org/wiki/ || http://www.hackaday.com || http://www.linux-hacker.net || KB Toys is going to have the entire JuiceBox bundle, that includes the "MP3 Kit" and some carts, for $25 on black friday |
| 19:00.01 | fishhead | can't wait till kmart or somewhere drops them below $20 |
| 19:00.04 | fishhead | going to raid a bunch |
| 19:00.29 | fishhead | I now have 2 kits with lexar 32mb sd's |
| 19:00.35 | fishhead | I know the kingmax ones are good too |
| 19:00.39 | fishhead | from what I googled they appear to be |
| 19:01.07 | fishhead | in fact kingmax has some kinda encapsilation expoxy thing for their sd cards |
| 19:01.11 | fishhead | claims is way more rugged |
| 19:01.33 | prpplague | fishhead: better watchout the ebayiers will get'em |
| 19:01.47 | fishhead | na they been sitting at the local kmart for like a year dude |
| 19:02.14 | fishhead | what's funny is that kmart is closing and it's only like 10-15 yrs old and 1 min away from the old one |
| 19:02.20 | jbevren | dang. schmartboard doesnt do 160pin qfp |
| 19:02.24 | fishhead | when the old one closed it killed that little mall off kinda |
| 19:02.36 | fishhead | now the 2 new shopping centers kinda killed off kmart :P |
| 19:03.03 | fishhead | someone is sending me a handspring 8 meg pda and even a gps module |
| 19:03.08 | fishhead | needs new display though |
| 19:04.32 | fishhead | I got another pda only needs display but I found them online $5 |
| 19:04.34 | prpplague | jbevren: yea i was looking for thsoe as well |
| 19:04.38 | fishhead | and another one needs display and a rom fix |
| 19:04.53 | fishhead | is there any easy way to desolder tsop's |
| 19:04.59 | fishhead | with just a normal iron |
| 19:05.04 | fishhead | and resolder them |
| 19:05.19 | jbevren | prpplague: I need 129 IOs :) |
| 19:05.23 | jbevren | for a sdram controller |
| 19:05.31 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:05.34 | fishhead | oh guys |
| 19:05.36 | fishhead | hang on |
| 19:05.37 | fishhead | check this site |
| 19:05.45 | prpplague | jbevren: i was planning to do some with the lh79520 |
| 19:05.45 | jbevren | prpplague: must be 5v friendly heh |
| 19:05.56 | jbevren | ah, whats this IC? |
| 19:05.59 | jbevren | fish? |
| 19:06.04 | fishhead | http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/home.asp |
| 19:06.07 | jbevren | oh |
| 19:06.09 | jbevren | yeah, nice site |
| 19:06.13 | jbevren | check out um |
| 19:06.18 | jbevren | allelectronics.com (I think) too |
| 19:06.21 | prpplague | jbevren: arm7 |
| 19:06.23 | fishhead | I have many times :) |
| 19:06.27 | jbevren | prpplague: features? :) |
| 19:06.38 | jbevren | I was looking up the chip in the gp2x |
| 19:06.41 | jbevren | pretty impressive device |
| 19:06.44 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:06.47 | fishhead | arm7 is like becoming the m68k of the 2000 century |
| 19:06.48 | fishhead | :P |
| 19:07.18 | fishhead | someday my kids will be giving me a musical/video xmas card for $5 with a embedded arm7tdmi core |
| 19:07.20 | fishhead | you watch |
| 19:07.43 | jbevren | heh |
| 19:07.44 | prpplague | fishhead: it might be, but there still seems to be a shortage of qualified people who can do low level dev with arm7 |
| 19:07.47 | jbevren | fishhead: e-ink cards :) |
| 19:08.00 | fishhead | prpplague, :( |
| 19:08.03 | jbevren | prpplague: ah, a market I could jump into if I train myself? :) |
| 19:08.07 | fishhead | shame cause it's a good little engine |
| 19:08.31 | fishhead | jbevren, you saw what atmel did didn't you |
| 19:08.38 | fishhead | $2 arm7 with like 32kb flash and 8kb sram |
| 19:08.38 | prpplague | fishhead: not a shame, hehe, just means those of us who can, get paid better |
| 19:08.57 | fishhead | yeah it;'s not going to run a full os anytime soon but damn lot of apps that could use that |
| 19:09.02 | jbevren | fishhead: I had a $5 one (33mhz, 2M flash 8k sram, 32 GPIO or bus option) |
| 19:09.06 | fishhead | prpplague, of course I just phear it dying out |
| 19:09.08 | jbevren | the size of your fingernail |
| 19:09.16 | fishhead | nice |
| 19:09.26 | jbevren | I was goign to use it for a bytebanged scsi controller |
| 19:09.31 | fishhead | heheh |
| 19:09.32 | jbevren | never did anything with it since I cant work with bga :) |
| 19:09.35 | jbevren | I got two samples |
| 19:09.53 | fishhead | does that site that mounts smt to dip |
| 19:10.01 | fishhead | do they over mounting service for a fee |
| 19:10.41 | jbevren | http://starbase.globalpc.net/~jbevren/uhs/chips.jpg |
| 19:10.42 | jbevren | dassa one |
| 19:10.43 | fishhead | freak I been getting more and more senilre lately |
| 19:11.06 | fishhead | damn |
| 19:11.31 | fishhead | arm7tmdi powered dildo, pwm like you never seen before |
| 19:12.12 | fishhead | sorry :P |
| 19:12.12 | jbevren | calm down man |
| 19:12.19 | jbevren | not all guys are into dildos |
| 19:12.26 | fishhead | not me you dummy |
| 19:12.38 | fishhead | that kinda freaks me out that woman use them even |
| 19:12.50 | fishhead | I was just making a electronics joke cause I was bored |
| 19:13.17 | fishhead | I also got a killer hangover |
| 19:13.24 | fishhead | 10x worse than usual |
| 19:13.27 | fishhead | freaking meds :( |
| 19:13.45 | prpplague | fishhead: didn't think you drank |
| 19:13.57 | jbevren | hm |
| 19:14.04 | fishhead | no |
| 19:14.07 | fishhead | my meds bro |
| 19:14.09 | jbevren | ebay seller sells bga chips, and will mount on your pcb free with purchase |
| 19:14.19 | fishhead | you make feeling like you got hit by a semi at 80mph |
| 19:14.22 | fishhead | wake |
| 19:14.27 | prpplague | i see |
| 19:15.11 | fishhead | plus I got sleep paralysis and some weird stuff where my mind gets stuck between a sleeping and dreaming state |
| 19:15.18 | fishhead | I have attacked my folks and punched them |
| 19:15.25 | fishhead | whent hey tried to wake me |
| 19:15.29 | fishhead | cause I was still kinda dreaming |
| 19:15.36 | fishhead | welcome to my hell :/ |
| 19:15.51 | jbevren | :) |
| 19:15.54 | fishhead | :P |
| 19:16.19 | fishhead | i'm thinking about getting a job at a high tech recycling firm |
| 19:16.26 | fishhead | or rebuilding pc's for goodwill or 3rd world |
| 19:18.34 | fishhead | heheh I used to love that seriesa |
| 19:18.58 | fishhead | oh that would suck |
| 19:19.04 | fishhead | when your gf cheats on you with another woman |
| 19:19.33 | fishhead | and you are on the tv show "cheaters" |
| 19:20.00 | fishhead | guys come up to you "dude wtf? are you that lousy in bed? |
| 19:21.32 | fishhead | just cause I am a 32 yr old virgin choosing to wait till I get married and I am a austism derived mess doesn't mean I don't understand some of this stuff |
| 19:21.39 | fishhead | :P |
| 19:22.04 | prpplague | hehe i need to order a few of these - http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G2200&variation=&aitem=9&mitem=44 |
| 19:22.39 | fishhead | ya know prpp |
| 19:22.49 | fishhead | aren't you in a all year round sunny country now ? |
| 19:23.01 | fishhead | excuse my ignorance when it comes to geography |
| 19:23.04 | prpplague | pretty much |
| 19:23.15 | fishhead | I get lost in hallways, spacial part of my brain is defective |
| 19:23.28 | fishhead | I bet solar lights for outdoors etc are very popular there |
| 19:23.39 | fishhead | they are here even and we get nasty winters |
| 19:23.40 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:24.00 | prpplague | fishhead: almost no one has electric or gas water heaters, all solar |
| 19:24.05 | fishhead | you should get a bunch of junk solar cells and super caps and see how long you can keep mcu's going :P |
| 19:24.12 | fishhead | awesome |
| 19:24.25 | fishhead | even if we have 0 chance of harming the planet |
| 19:24.32 | fishhead | the sun is beating the hell out of you anyways |
| 19:24.36 | fishhead | might as well tap some of that energy |
| 19:25.59 | fishhead | I wanna someday design solar furnaces or incinerators that are efficient enough that even when downtime occurs due to weather they are still worth it |
| 19:26.06 | fishhead | mabye to degrade trash or something |
| 19:26.54 | fishhead | degrade pollutants by baking them inside a clear tank with UV sunlight |
| 19:27.21 | fishhead | I like the stuff they are doing now with landfills |
| 19:27.35 | fishhead | they put hoods on them and collect all the gas from rotting trash and run power plants |
| 19:28.21 | fishhead | i've always been about trying to squeeze the last drop of usefullness out of every resource |
| 19:28.30 | fishhead | probably cause my family never really had much money but still |
| 19:34.42 | fishhead | I know it's kinda all off topic |
| 19:34.51 | fishhead | but you guys hear about the bmw car |
| 19:35.00 | fishhead | it's a gas engine and a steam engine |
| 19:35.16 | fishhead | they might have finally found away around the thermal dynamic limit of a combustion engine |
| 19:39.10 | fishhead | sorry |
| 19:39.14 | fishhead | my fault ? |
| 19:40.27 | prpplague | hehe, allelectronics has more of those portable oscopes |
| 19:40.49 | prpplague | http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/HPS-10/760/PORTABLE_OSCILLOSCOPE_.html |
| 19:44.24 | fishhead | hey guys |
| 19:44.24 | fishhead | this looks like a winner for you 2 |
| 19:44.24 | fishhead | http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G13752&variation=&aitem=1&mitem=2 |
| 19:46.40 | prpplague | there are better choices at earthlcd |
| 19:56.29 | fishhead | I have some tft laptops displays I might sell to earthlcd for credit |
| 19:56.38 | fishhead | or mabye a laptop part store for parts I need for the working laptops I have |
| 20:36.30 | ZeZu | whats up prpplague |
| 20:37.51 | prpplague | nada, ssdd |
| 20:38.50 | ZeZu | i feel that |
| 20:39.03 | ZeZu | nice wiki on the juicebox mplayer |
| 20:39.11 | prpplague | thanks |
| 20:39.26 | ZeZu | i saw the start of it about a month or so ago, and picked one up last night when i was walking around in kmart |
| 20:39.37 | ZeZu | +mp3 kit |
| 20:41.52 | ZeZu | i have only one question, (it was 3am when i was tearing it apart last night, so it may be dumb) but how do you program the flash on the XD you rigged to the MMC, when you can't run any code on the thing yet ? JTAG ? |
| 20:42.11 | prpplague | yea, we do almost everything by jtag |
| 20:42.20 | ZeZu | ;| |
| 20:42.41 | prpplague | worth your money to pick up one |
| 20:42.44 | ZeZu | i will have to buy a jtag controller |
| 20:42.57 | ZeZu | yea, i've not worked with a lot of hardware really |
| 20:43.12 | ZeZu | mostly do programming, low level but i've not designed any boards etc |
| 20:43.28 | ZeZu | i do a lot of emulators, and i was interested to see if i can squeeze a gameboy emulator on the thing |
| 20:43.35 | ZeZu | hehe |
| 20:45.32 | prpplague | ZeZu: yea you could get the gb emulator on their |
| 20:45.53 | prpplague | ZeZu: actually i've been tinkering with making a slot to read the original gb carts |
| 20:45.59 | ZeZu | i was talking to t0m last night, he said i could find a jtag controller for $30 for a cheap one |
| 20:46.11 | ZeZu | but i can't seem to find one for the price |
| 20:46.11 | prpplague | ZeZu: even cheaper than that |
| 20:46.16 | ZeZu | hmm |
| 20:46.28 | ZeZu | they have a name ? he called them "wigglers" |
| 20:46.33 | ZeZu | and thats not coming up on google |
| 20:47.01 | prpplague | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=275&osCsid=a80f86c1fc86d5011ff6362757e8a1d4 |
| 20:49.04 | ZeZu | hmm, i thought jtag all used the same connector ? |
| 20:49.55 | prpplague | ZeZu: for each of the different processor cores have a different pinout |
| 20:50.05 | prpplague | ZeZu: arm has a 2x7 and a 2x10 format |
| 20:50.24 | prpplague | ZeZu: mips and ppc have different formats |
| 20:50.39 | ZeZu | i do alot of work with mips and hitachi |
| 20:50.48 | ZeZu | on the software side though |
| 20:50.49 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:51.04 | fishhead | YOU STUPID CANUCK! |
| 20:51.09 | ZeZu | o.O |
| 20:51.11 | fishhead | go back to efnet :P |
| 20:51.17 | ZeZu | flyaway |
| 20:51.19 | prpplague | ZeZu: jtag is pretty standard as far as the protocol, but the pinout vary |
| 20:51.22 | fishhead | yep :P |
| 20:51.30 | beeble | can someone shoot me. my flash is erasing itself |
| 20:51.41 | prpplague | fishhead: chill |
| 20:51.47 | prpplague | beeble: hehe, fun fun |
| 20:51.53 | fishhead | prpplague, |
| 20:51.56 | fishhead | I know zezu from efnet |
| 20:51.57 | fishhead | :P |
| 20:52.30 | ZeZu | is there any hardware to that thing even ? |
| 20:52.52 | beeble | its fun at all. ethernet is working if i boot it from the (read once then empty) flash but if i tftpboot the kernel it isnt |
| 20:53.05 | beeble | someone did a good job ;) |
| 20:53.09 | prpplague | ZeZu: i am sorry i do not understand the question |
| 20:53.38 | ZeZu | j/w if i could make a cable instead of buying one for this particular application |
| 20:54.23 | ZeZu | probably not a great idea, but i just bought this thing to fool with, i was thinking of just stealing the lcd out of it for the $9 i paid for it heh |
| 20:55.39 | prpplague | ZeZu: yea you could make one |
| 20:55.46 | prpplague | ZeZu: just requires a buffer chip |
| 20:55.58 | prpplague | ZeZu: but the $20 is really worth the money |
| 20:56.43 | ZeZu | i figured it would be, i just didn't want to wait to play with it, or else it might get put away and not see the light of day for .. who knows how long ;) |
| 20:58.57 | ZeZu | prpplague, you happen to have a dump of the full firmware in the thing btw ? or any of the carts ? |
| 20:59.21 | prpplague | http://projects.buici.com/jtag/ |
| 20:59.45 | prpplague | ZeZu: yea, i have but since those contain copyrighted material i can't re-distribute them |
| 20:59.57 | fishhead | zezu seriously |
| 21:00.04 | fishhead | if you want another project sometimes |
| 21:00.10 | fishhead | you might want to look at the juicebox |
| 21:00.21 | ZeZu | yea i prob shouldn't have asked that, i wanted to emulate it hehe |
| 21:00.33 | fishhead | kmart just slashed the price to $9.99 for the unit and $20 for the mp3 kit and it's going down cause kmart is closing stores |
| 21:00.45 | ZeZu | fishbrain, thats what i'm talking about |
| 21:00.48 | fishhead | nice little 60mhz arm7tdmi |
| 21:00.50 | fishhead | oh |
| 21:00.51 | fishhead | cool |
| 21:00.57 | fishhead | I have 7 |
| 21:01.04 | fishhead | I bought when walmart got rid of them $13 each |
| 21:01.10 | ZeZu | you got one of the 8mb versions you wanna spare ? |
| 21:01.28 | fishhead | yeah I have 6 8 meg versions the 2 meg I gave to nephew |
| 21:01.29 | fishhead | i sold one |
| 21:01.31 | fishhead | lemme check |
| 21:01.32 | ZeZu | its going to be hard to squeeze a gb emu onto 2mb of ram |
| 21:01.36 | fishhead | whoa |
| 21:01.40 | fishhead | you could to be gb emule on one |
| 21:01.41 | fishhead | cool |
| 21:01.55 | fishhead | I might even have 2 left in package lemme check |
| 21:01.56 | fishhead | brb |
| 21:02.33 | ZeZu | ko |
| 21:03.44 | fishhead | I still have 2 blister packed, 2 beated up used but working ones and one that just needs 2 wires soldered back on, the blistered ones are $13 and ship :p |
| 21:03.47 | ZeZu | eh i had best just buy the jtag controller and wait for it, i don't know where i'd find any parts to make it, radio shack doesn't carry much of anything anymore |
| 21:04.05 | ZeZu | blistered ? |
| 21:04.06 | fishhead | why don't you make that simple jtag prpplague made |
| 21:04.12 | fishhead | blister packed |
| 21:04.21 | fishhead | like in the package you pick off the store shelved |
| 21:04.29 | ZeZu | ah |
| 21:04.37 | prpplague | fishhead: already have |
| 21:04.45 | prpplague | fishhead: will be available end of jan |
| 21:04.50 | fishhead | cool |
| 21:05.04 | fishhead | ,abye I will buy one too since my hands shake like crack addict :/ |
| 21:05.12 | ZeZu | mine as well |
| 21:05.24 | ZeZu | soldering tends to take a long while when i'm doing it |
| 21:05.27 | beeble | yeah sst flash is cool. its seems that the flash command for sector and block erase is swapped |
| 21:05.37 | ZeZu | and solder gets on everything but where its intended to |
| 21:05.44 | fishhead | zezu I can't spare any mp3 kits though :p |
| 21:05.52 | ZeZu | i have mp3 kit |
| 21:06.12 | ZeZu | though if i solder to it, it might not live long |
| 21:06.18 | fishhead | prpplague, explain to him about the adaptor |
| 21:06.25 | fishhead | you are more elegant with words |
| 21:06.30 | fishhead | in case he gets any more mp3 kits |
| 21:06.50 | ZeZu | there were like 10 left at kmart |
| 21:06.58 | fishhead | wow nice |
| 21:07.00 | fishhead | how much each |
| 21:07.06 | ZeZu | $20 for the kits |
| 21:07.11 | ZeZu | $9 for the hardware |
| 21:07.13 | fishhead | there are 15 each here but they still want $20 |
| 21:07.15 | fishhead | yeah same |
| 21:07.21 | fishhead | like 20 units but they are all 2 meg units |
| 21:07.40 | fishhead | I WONDER if the 2 meg mp3 software is less crappy than the 8 meg ones |
| 21:07.50 | fishhead | using one as a mp3 player till I get my palm t5 fixed |
| 21:07.58 | ZeZu | mp3 works good |
| 21:08.03 | ZeZu | on this 2mb version |
| 21:08.11 | fishhead | yeah it sounds good but no playlist, random is a joke |
| 21:08.20 | fishhead | and only does 128kbit 16 bit 44khz |
| 21:08.21 | fishhead | non vbc |
| 21:08.23 | fishhead | vbr |
| 21:08.30 | ZeZu | damn things little speaker kicks ass |
| 21:08.34 | fishhead | yeah it's not bad |
| 21:08.36 | ZeZu | better than the speakers on my psp |
| 21:08.38 | fishhead | nice with headphones |
| 21:08.53 | fishhead | well you know the usb to sd adaptor, usb cord and 32 meg sd is worth the $20 alone |
| 21:09.03 | fishhead | but prpplague claims if you take the housing off the sd to juicebox adaptor |
| 21:09.10 | fishhead | it's a nice sd protoboard worth $20 easily |
| 21:09.21 | prpplague | then plus the sd cart which is an easy prototype board |
| 21:09.32 | ZeZu | indeed |
| 21:09.43 | fishhead | it still scares me to no end |
| 21:09.45 | fishhead | how well flash works |
| 21:09.54 | fishhead | even that cheeze sd reader and a 32 meg card |
| 21:09.58 | fishhead | I carry one in my pocket now |
| 21:10.04 | fishhead | inside a altoids tin to kinda protect it |
| 21:10.14 | fishhead | so I always have 32 meg of storage if I end up looking at someone's pc |
| 21:10.47 | jbevren | heh |
| 21:10.51 | jbevren | I carry small things in altoids tins too |
| 21:10.58 | fishhead | I keep everest on it |
| 21:11.02 | fishhead | so I can do a report on their system |
| 21:11.06 | fishhead | all the hw, pci id's etc |
| 21:11.20 | fishhead | then I can sit at home or on my laptop or palm and read thru it |
| 21:11.29 | prpplague | jbevren: i want to put one my lnode80 boards inside an altoid case |
| 21:11.32 | ZeZu | i used to carry some pot in an altoids can |
| 21:11.36 | fishhead | heh |
| 21:11.37 | ZeZu | hehe |
| 21:11.50 | ZeZu | don't smoke any more tho so ... no altoids cans, i dont like the things |
| 21:11.51 | fishhead | zezu the idea of using a juicebox for gb emul was that my idea ? |
| 21:11.54 | fishhead | showing you the jb |
| 21:12.04 | ZeZu | you showed me the juicebox |
| 21:12.10 | fishhead | cool |
| 21:12.12 | ZeZu | the gb emu was my idea once i got it |
| 21:12.35 | ZeZu | i would almost try a gba emu but its not going to happen even w/ the 8mb version |
| 21:12.45 | fishhead | well how much ram does the gba have |
| 21:12.52 | fishhead | isn't like it 256kb or something |
| 21:12.53 | ZeZu | nor would it run at playable speed |
| 21:12.56 | fishhead | oh |
| 21:12.57 | ZeZu | i'm not sure |
| 21:13.06 | ZeZu | i think it has a 30+mhz arm though |
| 21:13.07 | fishhead | wonder how well it would do with mame also |
| 21:13.12 | ZeZu | it wouldn't |
| 21:13.14 | ZeZu | mame is horrid |
| 21:13.19 | fishhead | ah |
| 21:13.26 | ZeZu | for things with less than 32mb ram anyways |
| 21:13.39 | ZeZu | the mame on dc is very limited |
| 21:13.44 | fishhead | :/ |
| 21:15.40 | prpplague | ZeZu: the jb is 60mhz |
| 21:15.48 | ZeZu | i know |
| 21:16.06 | ZeZu | but even such, the overhead is high and the gba has video hardware |
| 21:16.11 | ZeZu | not just framebuffer |
| 21:16.12 | fishhead | ah |
| 21:16.18 | fishhead | which ones are there |
| 21:16.21 | fishhead | I lost track |
| 21:16.24 | fishhead | gb |
| 21:16.26 | fishhead | what is next |
| 21:16.28 | prpplague | ZeZu: are you sure about that? |
| 21:16.49 | prpplague | ZeZu: should be able to just handle the none standard arm instructions |
| 21:16.50 | ZeZu | that the gba has vid hardware ? |
| 21:16.57 | prpplague | yea |
| 21:17.04 | ZeZu | yes it has oam / sprites |
| 21:17.19 | ZeZu | they have trouble emulating it on psp |
| 21:17.23 | ZeZu | thought it is done |
| 21:17.24 | prpplague | interesting |
| 21:17.35 | prpplague | ZeZu: your nick looks familiar |
| 21:17.48 | prpplague | ZeZu: you do alot of gameboy dev? |
| 21:17.48 | ZeZu | i get around like a prostitute with a big rack |
| 21:18.08 | ZeZu | no mostly dreamcast stuff, and a lot of messing around in general |
| 21:18.16 | prpplague | ahh |
| 21:18.27 | ZeZu | worked on icarus, nemu64, a new dc emu, helped w/ chankast, etc |
| 21:18.47 | prpplague | ahh |
| 21:19.07 | prpplague | well i was just thinking of doing gb or gba support on arm today |
| 21:19.29 | prpplague | i was wondering about the legality of accessing gba carts with something other than the gba |
| 21:19.55 | ZeZu | according to the dmca, you can't even look at one with a hex editor tbh |
| 21:20.06 | ZeZu | much less read it on another device |
| 21:20.20 | ZeZu | but i'm not huge on listening to the dmca, and its contradictive anyways |
| 21:20.40 | jbevren | doesnt the dmca have a loophole that allows this in the name of enhancing interoperability? |
| 21:21.34 | ZeZu | yea, something along those lines |
| 21:22.31 | prpplague | so you could'nt come out with a device that played gba carts |
| 21:22.35 | fishhead | prp |
| 21:22.39 | fishhead | knowing nintendo |
| 21:22.51 | fishhead | they won't even let you emulate them if you have the carts and the actual unit beside it |
| 21:22.54 | ZeZu | prpplague, nintendo did ;) but they own the copyright |
| 21:23.01 | fishhead | w00t |
| 21:23.05 | fishhead | just sold a unit to zezu |
| 21:23.06 | fishhead | :P |
| 21:23.17 | ZeZu | but there are other pieces of hardware |
| 21:23.18 | prpplague | ZeZu: what did they come out with? |
| 21:23.20 | ZeZu | that will read them |
| 21:23.28 | ZeZu | the gba reader for gamecube |
| 21:23.33 | prpplague | ZeZu: ahh right |
| 21:23.34 | ZeZu | err player |
| 21:23.44 | prpplague | yea my son has one |
| 21:23.52 | ZeZu | but then there are plenty of flash carts and gamesharks etc |
| 21:24.00 | prpplague | yea |
| 21:24.17 | prpplague | ZeZu: seems like nintendo lost their suit against gameshark didn't they? |
| 21:25.59 | prpplague | ZeZu: yea reading the actual data isn't difficult |
| 21:28.23 | prpplague | later folks |
| 21:28.35 | fishhead | zezu if you don't know him before |
| 21:28.44 | fishhead | prpp is the guy to pick his brain to death |
| 21:29.01 | ZeZu | hehe |
| 21:29.12 | fishhead | he did most of he JB hacking |
| 21:29.43 | ZeZu | he seems like one for legalities though, and the dmca and new laws are making all of this very illegal ;) |
| 21:30.05 | ZeZu | its not enforced really, but definitely there |
| 21:30.26 | fishhead | well he moved from the usa to barbados cause he got fed up |
| 21:31.22 | jbevren | man I bet shipping is hell :) |
| 21:32.00 | fishhead | i dunno I think they are pretty capitalistic |
| 21:32.04 | fishhead | so it shouldn't be too bad |
| 21:33.54 | fishhead | oh here |
| 21:33.55 | fishhead | you guys |
| 21:34.00 | fishhead | if you have windows boxes with no floppy drive |
| 21:34.08 | fishhead | and you need to make a dos boot image for bios etc |
| 21:35.03 | fishhead | http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html#download |
| 21:45.02 | jbevren | enat |
| 21:45.04 | jbevren | er, |
| 21:45.04 | jbevren | neat |
| 21:45.17 | BradM | lets buttfuck |
| 21:45.19 | jbevren | next trick: doing that with usb before the OS boots :) |
| 21:45.28 | jbevren | BradM: let's grow up. |
| 21:45.28 | BradM | wtf |
| 21:45.36 | BradM | this isn't #homos-r-us |
| 21:45.39 | BradM | [Mp3] Metallica - Enter Sandman.mp3 (05:31) |
| 21:45.45 | BradM | j/k |
| 21:45.46 | BradM | bbs |
| 21:45.48 | BradM | stupid mp3 player |
| 21:48.43 | Genesis | bonne soirée |
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| 22:56.13 | fishhead | BradM, hhahhaa |
| 22:56.30 | fishhead | STOP TROLLING HERE |
| 22:56.32 | fishhead | :P |
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