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| 01:52.35 | sunrunner20 | hmmm |
| 01:52.37 | sunrunner20 | good idea |
| 01:52.50 | sunrunner20 | AM/FM shoutcast box |
| 01:53.44 | sunrunner20 | small realativly cheap device that reads in all the local channels on AM&FM bands and makes them aviable via shoutcast stream |
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| 11:27.28 | Genesis | bonjour |
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| 13:50.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey hey |
| 13:51.07 | GPSFan | prpplague: g'day.. |
| 13:57.07 | prpplague | seems there is some renewed interest in hacking the jb |
| 13:58.28 | GPSFan | mine is gathering dust, maybe a good use would be to take the display out and graft it onto the lnode80.. |
| 13:58.45 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:58.51 | prpplague | GPSFan: i've thought of that as well |
| 13:59.23 | prpplague | GPSFan: i kinda was looking at that lcd from sparkfun though |
| 13:59.55 | GPSFan | pretty small, but i'm sure the lnode80 could drive it. |
| 14:02.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea its nothing but a basic spi interface |
| 14:04.03 | prpplague | GPSFan: HA |
| 14:04.10 | prpplague | GPSFan: your jtag adapter is cute |
| 14:05.00 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe the lnode80 comes with a nice parport jtagger |
| 14:07.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: do you still need the walnut pix page since the pics are on the main page now? |
| 14:08.03 | GPSFan | prpplague: no, haven't figured how to delete it. ;>( |
| 14:08.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe |
| 14:08.38 | prpplague | GPSFan: np, i'll take care of it |
| 14:08.43 | GPSFan | tnx.. |
| 14:37.57 | jbevren | prpplague: quick Q.. does the lnode have 5v-tolerante IO? |
| 14:38.46 | jbevren | btw, is there a wiki page covering it? :D |
| 14:39.26 | prpplague | jbevren: the wiki primary wiki won't be on the elinux wiki, but i suspect one will crop up there |
| 14:39.33 | jbevren | ah |
| 14:39.50 | jbevren | yeah, Ive thought about adding a gp2x page to the elinux wiki, with a summary and link to the gp2x wiki |
| 14:40.04 | prpplague | jbevren: it has 5v tolerante i/o, key word tolerante, you can use 5v without blowing it up, but 3.3v is prefered |
| 14:40.11 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:40.30 | jbevren | gotcha, thanks :) |
| 15:04.52 | sunrunner20 | school told me to go home yesterday |
| 15:05.04 | prpplague | sunrunner20: doh |
| 15:05.09 | prpplague | sunrunner20: how come? |
| 15:05.16 | prpplague | sunrunner20: off your meds? |
| 15:05.26 | sunrunner20 | got really upset |
| 15:05.37 | sunrunner20 | neaerly got sent back to the hospital |
| 15:05.38 | prpplague | sunrunner20: uh oh |
| 15:05.45 | prpplague | sunrunner20: yikes |
| 15:05.49 | sunrunner20 | and |
| 15:05.51 | sunrunner20 | what the hell |
| 15:06.02 | sunrunner20 | digital labs requries a NDA to give you the spec sheet |
| 15:06.03 | sunrunner20 | o.0 |
| 15:48.03 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm gonna remove your jtag pic off the walnut page |
| 15:54.15 | prpplague | GPSFan / jbevren walnut page has been updated a little |
| 15:54.20 | prpplague | joe_bleau: hey |
| 15:54.28 | prpplague | joe_bleau: done any more jb hacking lately? |
| 15:54.51 | jbevren | lol |
| 15:54.57 | jbevren | you included the session id in the bgmicro link |
| 15:55.04 | prpplague | doh |
| 15:55.07 | jbevren | I'll edit |
| 15:55.08 | jbevren | I know their format |
| 15:55.32 | prpplague | jbevren: okie dokie |
| 15:57.15 | jbevren | ok |
| 15:57.50 | prpplague | someone needs to do a chip list |
| 15:58.27 | sunrunner20 | on what |
| 15:58.39 | sunrunner20 | JB? |
| 15:58.55 | jbevren | prpp; surprisingly, the only IC not listed is the PHY |
| 15:59.05 | jbevren | the rest are arbitrary discretes |
| 15:59.06 | jbevren | heh |
| 15:59.09 | prpplague | sunrunner20: juicebox |
| 15:59.11 | sunrunner20 | phy? |
| 15:59.15 | sunrunner20 | physical what/ |
| 15:59.22 | jbevren | sunrunner20: ethernet phy |
| 15:59.33 | sunrunner20 | JB doesn't have a eth phy does it? |
| 15:59.37 | jbevren | nope |
| 15:59.40 | jbevren | the walnut does |
| 15:59.47 | sunrunner20 | walnut? |
| 15:59.47 | jbevren | http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut |
| 16:00.24 | sunrunner20 | how fast is the ppc chip |
| 16:00.38 | jbevren | read the page :P |
| 16:00.48 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 16:00.49 | sunrunner20 | shhh |
| 16:00.50 | sunrunner20 | meh |
| 16:01.00 | sunrunner20 | scratch that |
| 16:01.03 | sunrunner20 | not intrested in it |
| 16:01.11 | jbevren | bah |
| 16:01.12 | jbevren | why not :) |
| 16:01.15 | jbevren | its like $20 |
| 16:01.24 | sunrunner20 | FPGA with a 400mhz ppc in it ;p |
| 16:01.31 | jbevren | it gets a screamin' 8M/sec on ide |
| 16:01.40 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:01.52 | jbevren | sunrunner20: yeah, well send me one |
| 16:01.52 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:01.56 | sunrunner20 | i can get more than that w/ an IP core+cf card |
| 16:02.01 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:02.24 | jbevren | as soon as vertex-equipped toy boards come out for $20 I'll get one :) |
| 16:02.28 | jbevren | virtex that is |
| 16:03.18 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 16:03.22 | sunrunner20 | you mean the sample boards |
| 16:03.26 | sunrunner20 | that you can buy :P |
| 16:03.41 | sunrunner20 | 3E boards are out |
| 16:03.49 | sunrunner20 | or at least i have one lol |
| 16:05.18 | sunrunner20 | i bet i have to use a over powered custom oven |
| 16:06.08 | jbevren | are they out? |
| 16:06.14 | jbevren | or are they 'out' like they were in the end of 2005? |
| 16:06.41 | jbevren | :D |
| 16:06.59 | sunrunner20 | http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/s3esamplepack/ |
| 16:07.28 | sunrunner20 | 100k gates (i think) |
| 16:07.38 | jbevren | aww its cute |
| 16:07.41 | jbevren | I want the digilent board |
| 16:07.53 | sunrunner20 | heh |
| 16:08.26 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.36 | jbevren | it was july, then september, then december, now feb |
| 16:08.46 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:08.48 | jbevren | by time they release it, the virtex-4's will be $5 |
| 16:08.57 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:09.01 | sunrunner20 | Mixed Signal IC |
| 16:09.03 | sunrunner20 | so |
| 16:09.13 | sunrunner20 | is it hard to tell if it gives you sine or square waves? |
| 16:09.15 | sunrunner20 | ;p |
| 16:09.59 | jbevren | hehe |
| 16:10.04 | jbevren | not with a scope |
| 16:10.06 | sunrunner20 | know what |
| 16:10.15 | sunrunner20 | i need to put my disks on DVD |
| 16:10.27 | sunrunner20 | we have like 400 DVD+r disks now.... |
| 16:12.11 | sunrunner20 | get rid of all these damn 700meg cdrs |
| 16:12.27 | sunrunner20 | condense all my backups too like 6 dvds |
| 16:12.48 | sunrunner20 | then buy a small thumbdrive |
| 16:12.57 | sunrunner20 | and put text files of the LS on them |
| 16:13.10 | sunrunner20 | *put LS output on it |
| 16:14.58 | sunrunner20 | I have 4 disk cases full of cdroms |
| 16:15.00 | sunrunner20 | i'm tired of all them |
| 16:15.03 | sunrunner20 | probem is |
| 16:15.16 | sunrunner20 | i'll have to convice my dad to let me barrow ~50gb on his desktop lol |
| 16:15.27 | sunrunner20 | server only has ~14gb free |
| 16:15.32 | sunrunner20 | needs another huge disk |
| 16:15.43 | sunrunner20 | heck, we need like a 2tb raid5 |
| 16:16.56 | jbevren | I have 1.3 |
| 16:20.40 | sunrunner20 | 4 500gb drives? |
| 16:20.47 | jbevren | 12 160s |
| 16:20.51 | sunrunner20 | o.0 |
| 16:20.59 | sunrunner20 | hard or soft? |
| 16:21.03 | jbevren | hard |
| 16:21.11 | sunrunner20 | controler? |
| 16:21.22 | jbevren | 3ware 6400 and 6800 |
| 16:21.29 | jbevren | linux LVM appends them into one volume |
| 16:21.40 | sunrunner20 | ah |
| 16:22.03 | sunrunner20 | i guess that counts as a limpy raid ;p |
| 16:22.12 | jbevren | howso? |
| 16:22.14 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:22.20 | sunrunner20 | includes a soft element |
| 16:22.21 | sunrunner20 | but |
| 16:22.25 | sunrunner20 | i'm kidding |
| 16:22.25 | jbevren | limpy? |
| 16:22.27 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 16:22.28 | jbevren | I mean |
| 16:22.34 | sunrunner20 | part hard |
| 16:22.36 | sunrunner20 | part soft ;p |
| 16:22.41 | jbevren | the controllers are -slower- at raid5 than the host processor |
| 16:22.46 | jbevren | I tested :P |
| 16:22.52 | sunrunner20 | ROTFLMAO |
| 16:22.56 | jbevren | p3/500mhz on the 6400 got 55M/sec raid5 |
| 16:23.03 | jbevren | at ~10% cpu |
| 16:23.18 | jbevren | the actual server is a p3/866 |
| 16:23.29 | sunrunner20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.30 | jbevren | the 3wares get about 35M/sec |
| 16:23.35 | sunrunner20 | our server is a p133 |
| 16:23.39 | sunrunner20 | :\ |
| 16:23.41 | jbevren | bear in mind the 6800's been out of production for years :) |
| 16:23.54 | sunrunner20 | IDE i take it |
| 16:24.02 | jbevren | and 35M/sec, while slow, is still faster than the 10M/sec 100bT limit |
| 16:24.17 | jbevren | the 6000 series were discontinued before sata was created :) |
| 16:24.42 | jbevren | http://jbevren.net/guu.jpg |
| 16:24.49 | sunrunner20 | owww |
| 16:24.53 | sunrunner20 | papercut :'( |
| 16:26.05 | jbevren | hm |
| 16:26.12 | jbevren | I need to get a 6channel fan controller |
| 16:26.23 | jbevren | but it has to be controllable via serial or something |
| 16:29.32 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:29.37 | sunrunner20 | what about usb? |
| 16:29.45 | sunrunner20 | or self contained |
| 16:29.54 | jbevren | I'd like to monitor it |
| 16:29.58 | jbevren | there are 12 drives there after all :) |
| 16:30.03 | jbevren | so readback is a plus |
| 16:30.10 | jbevren | as for usb, meh. |
| 16:30.17 | jbevren | the compiler on that box is broken. I cant compile an x86 kernel |
| 16:30.25 | jbevren | (i can compile arm, ppc, but not x86. scary eh?) |
| 16:30.33 | sunrunner20 | how remote would the monitoring be? |
| 16:30.38 | sunrunner20 | can you look over at the machine? |
| 16:30.41 | jbevren | remote to the fileserver |
| 16:30.48 | jbevren | I refuse to live within 30 feet of that system :) |
| 16:30.52 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:30.59 | jbevren | 3 92mm fans full-blast |
| 16:31.04 | jbevren | 3 80mm fans full-blast |
| 16:31.07 | jbevren | 1 80mm psu fan |
| 16:31.10 | jbevren | a noisy cpu fan :) |
| 16:31.15 | jbevren | the drives are actually -very- quiet |
| 16:31.22 | sunrunner20 | seagate? |
| 16:31.24 | jbevren | you can barely hear a bit of hum from the spindles |
| 16:31.25 | jbevren | yeah |
| 16:31.36 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 16:31.38 | jbevren | I dont really even mind seek noise either |
| 16:31.42 | jbevren | its spindle noise that irritates me |
| 16:31.44 | sunrunner20 | probally 7200.7 or .8? |
| 16:31.51 | jbevren | .7 I think |
| 16:31.56 | jbevren | cheap refurbs :) |
| 16:32.07 | jbevren | 1year warranty's up this spring :) |
| 16:32.08 | sunrunner20 | from where |
| 16:32.15 | jbevren | trade secret |
| 16:32.18 | jbevren | lol |
| 16:32.20 | sunrunner20 | lonk |
| 16:32.25 | sunrunner20 | trade secret? |
| 16:32.27 | jbevren | theyre $60 each, and there's no rebate BS |
| 16:32.27 | sunrunner20 | site |
| 16:32.53 | jbevren | http://www.centrix-intl.com/ |
| 16:33.06 | sunrunner20 | must convince dad... |
| 16:33.23 | jbevren | oh |
| 16:33.28 | jbevren | they have them in sata now apparently |
| 16:33.32 | jbevren | hmmm :) |
| 16:33.52 | jbevren | ST3160023AS |
| 16:34.15 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 16:34.16 | sunrunner20 | fireball |
| 16:34.18 | sunrunner20 | $8 |
| 16:34.47 | jbevren | Over 380 MB/s RAID 5 writes |
| 16:34.48 | jbevren | drool. |
| 16:34.50 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:35.22 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 16:35.25 | sunrunner20 | if you get a good controler |
| 16:35.31 | sunrunner20 | only prob |
| 16:35.40 | jbevren | 3ware 9550SX-8LP 64-bit/133MHz PCI-X SATA II Raid Controller Card |
| 16:35.51 | jbevren | my bus is 64/66 |
| 16:35.54 | jbevren | :D |
| 16:36.02 | jbevren | it can do 380 |
| 16:36.12 | jbevren | I'm not worried though, I'm still on 100mbit |
| 16:38.05 | sunrunner20 | ditto |
| 16:43.22 | jbevren | I did have gigabit for a while at my old place |
| 16:43.29 | jbevren | I ran at my controller's speed over nfs |
| 16:43.41 | jbevren | I was real close to going nfsroot on my workstation and removing local disks :) |
| 16:48.01 | jbevren | 700 bucks for a 12-lane 3ware :( |
| 16:48.14 | jbevren | of course, I know its worth it :) |
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| 17:59.13 | sunrunner20 | jbevren; you can get motherboards w/ raid support and 6 lanes of SATA |
| 17:59.18 | sunrunner20 | ~$200 |
| 17:59.24 | sunrunner20 | and a dual core cpu |
| 17:59.28 | jbevren | motherboard sata = software raid |
| 17:59.28 | sunrunner20 | still chaper than $700 |
| 17:59.31 | sunrunner20 | no |
| 17:59.33 | sunrunner20 | hardware |
| 17:59.34 | jbevren | uh |
| 17:59.35 | jbevren | yes. |
| 17:59.39 | sunrunner20 | uh no |
| 17:59.41 | jbevren | name one. |
| 17:59.45 | jbevren | thats not silicon image |
| 17:59.47 | jbevren | or nvidia |
| 17:59.47 | sunrunner20 | silicon image |
| 17:59.49 | jbevren | or promise |
| 17:59.53 | jbevren | SiI = software |
| 17:59.54 | jbevren | I -know- |
| 17:59.55 | jbevren | I have one. |
| 18:00.03 | sunrunner20 | how old though |
| 18:00.04 | jbevren | install the wrong driver = 2 drives |
| 18:00.12 | jbevren | install the right driver = virtual raid device |
| 18:00.25 | jbevren | lessee.. its the motherboard packaged with the gigabyte gv-3d1 |
| 18:00.27 | sunrunner20 | then why the hell do i have a raid control option in my bios? |
| 18:00.42 | jbevren | because the -bios- has software raid support for loading an OS. |
| 18:00.43 | jbevren | :) |
| 18:00.55 | jbevren | just because the bios says 'raid' doesnt mean its hardware raid |
| 18:01.06 | jbevren | silicon image = trailertrash raid |
| 18:01.21 | jbevren | their sata chips are fast without doubt, but raid controllers they arenot. |
| 18:04.35 | sunrunner20 | still |
| 18:04.38 | sunrunner20 | evne if its software |
| 18:04.43 | sunrunner20 | on a 2ghz dual core... |
| 18:06.42 | jbevren | software raid often has poor recovery features |
| 18:06.46 | jbevren | and |
| 18:06.50 | jbevren | SiI raid doesnt work in linux |
| 18:06.52 | jbevren | next? |
| 18:07.07 | jbevren | see, you get what you pay for |
| 18:07.09 | jbevren | and you pay for what you get |
| 18:07.25 | jbevren | I want raid, not some stupid checksumming application from a chinese man |
| 20:24.17 | fishhead | jbevren, |
| 20:24.19 | fishhead | get panaflo fans |
| 20:24.24 | jbevren | I know |
| 20:24.24 | fishhead | fluid bearings = quiet and last long |
| 20:24.25 | jbevren | :) |
| 20:24.27 | jbevren | but |
| 20:24.31 | jbevren | the blades sill slice up the air |
| 20:24.40 | jbevren | the fans are quiet, bearing-wise |
| 20:24.42 | fishhead | going to order that board in a few mins, wish me luck that they still have one :P |
| 20:24.44 | jbevren | its blade noise that does it |
| 20:24.48 | fishhead | I hate bearing noise more than air noise |
| 20:24.57 | fishhead | air noise is a tranq for me |
| 20:25.06 | fishhead | I leave a hair dryer running at night, etc sometimes and during the day |
| 20:25.09 | fishhead | or some kinda big fan |
| 20:25.30 | jbevren | air noise is ok |
| 20:25.37 | jbevren | but 500 blades/sec isnt :) |
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| 21:17.01 | fishhead | wow the whole rim vs ntp might be the greatest motivation for congress to reform patent law and get rid of patenting the method of mastrobating and other dumb crap. Appears a lot of gov uses blackberries :) |
| 21:17.48 | fishhead | this could do for patent lawsuits what 911 terrrorists did for hijacking, i.e. pretty much killed it off |
| 21:19.17 | fishhead | this could do for patent lawsuits what 911 terrrorists did for hijacking, i.e. pretty much killed it off |
