| 00:07.13 | fishhead | hehe |
| 00:08.51 | sherbang | fishhead: how was the interview |
| 00:08.59 | fishhead | ok |
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| 00:54.27 | silverpower | Anybody here received their boards yet? |
| 00:58.01 | sherbang | I just ordered Saturday night, so definitely no. |
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| 01:02.01 | GPSFan_ | silverpower: jbevren & I have had ours for about a week. some progress on an updated bootloader. |
| 01:06.00 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: do you have any notes online on your progress with ppcboot? I've got a toolchain ready... |
| 01:06.27 | silverpower | Cool. Any idea whether it'll tolerate an active PCI riser card? |
| 01:06.39 | GPSFan_ | silverpower: no clue. |
| 01:07.37 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: not yet, I'm close, the new bootloader boots, but I'm having issues with the .bss segment not being zero'd out properly. learning as I go ;>) |
| 01:08.19 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: do you have a jtag interface? |
| 01:11.17 | joe_bleau | I have one of the olimex arm-jtag parallel port wigglers. I'm planning on building a 20 to 16 pin converter to match the pinout on the Walnut. |
| 01:11.21 | Pablo | are they 64 bit? |
| 01:11.35 | joe_bleau | It worked with OCD Commander for the JB, so I'm hoping it'll work here too. |
| 01:11.49 | joe_bleau | I've looked over ppcboot source. |
| 01:11.57 | joe_bleau | Do we know the mem map of the board? |
| 01:12.15 | joe_bleau | I'd like to try some code out tonight, using the ppcboot s-record loader |
| 01:12.43 | joe_bleau | Some of the ppcboot docs imply that it can export printf(), and I'd like to try that out |
| 01:13.15 | joe_bleau | I may have a line on the 405GP manuals |
| 01:13.34 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: good, that should work with this board. |
| 01:13.40 | GPSFan_ | bbl.. |
| 01:13.44 | joe_bleau | Thanks man! |
| 01:46.37 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: what version of ocd commander do you have? |
| 01:51.27 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: do you have the 20 pin pinout? this is it: http://www.etoolsmiths.com/target-jtag-connector-pin-out.html |
| 02:11.21 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: I've got a bunch of version archived, but I was using the one that came out last month. |
| 02:11.43 | joe_bleau | I do have the 20 pin pinout, as I had to build the JB jtag connector |
| 02:12.12 | joe_bleau | Plan is to use a short section of 16 pin ribbon to a perfboard mounted 16 pin socket, scabbed next to a 20 pin socket. |
| 02:15.15 | joe_bleau | Doh. bdinfo: sdram at 0, flash at 0xfff80000 |
| 02:20.33 | fishhead | joe |
| 02:20.38 | fishhead | did bg give you a trackin # |
| 02:20.46 | joe_bleau | Nope. |
| 02:20.51 | fishhead | did you have to sign for it ? |
| 02:20.55 | joe_bleau | I really need to put a reset switch on here. |
| 02:21.02 | joe_bleau | No signature required. Mine came USPS. |
| 02:21.06 | fishhead | ok |
| 02:29.09 | joe_bleau | The bottom three sectors of flash are write protected...cna we assume that's where ppcboot lives? |
| 02:29.17 | joe_bleau | md seems to confirm it. |
| 02:31.44 | GPSFan_ | yes |
| 02:33.24 | joe_bleau | I'm dumping the ffff sector now (jeez, I wish I could crank up the baud rate) |
| 02:33.32 | joe_bleau | I'm not used to seeing 'blank' flash read as 0 |
| 02:33.51 | GPSFan_ | what I did with my recompiled ppcboot, is to burn it at 0xfffc0000. You will need to change a LOT in the include/config_WALNUT405.h. I then loadb the ppcboot.bin file with loadb 400000 115200 and burn it. |
| 02:34.30 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: the blank falsh has been filled with 00000000. |
| 02:34.39 | GPSFan_ | when erased it is ffffffff |
| 02:34.49 | joe_bleau | protect off, erase, then cp to copy from sdram to flash, right? |
| 02:35.12 | joe_bleau | (In this case, protect is already off on the spare sectors) |
| 02:35.21 | GPSFan_ | no, don't turn th protect off on the current ppcboot, lest you hose it up. |
| 02:35.44 | GPSFan_ | fffc0000 is unprotected normally |
| 02:35.50 | joe_bleau | But you've got to turn write protect off the sector you're writing too. |
| 02:36.00 | joe_bleau | I don't intend to disturb the bottom three |
| 02:36.09 | joe_bleau | WAIT--I see something at the end of the 0xffff sector |
| 02:36.26 | GPSFan_ | good, that way you can test and still have a working bootloader. |
| 02:36.32 | joe_bleau | 0x4bf80104...is that the word that you hosed? |
| 02:36.37 | GPSFan_ | yes, |
| 02:36.49 | GPSFan_ | it is a jump to fffb0100 |
| 02:36.55 | joe_bleau | Maybe I should protect the 0xffff sector, too? |
| 02:37.03 | GPSFan_ | thet would be ok |
| 02:38.56 | joe_bleau | Well, I'd have to break the boot by accidentally overwriting that word. |
| 02:39.02 | joe_bleau | Wonder what they didn't protect that sector too? |
| 02:39.27 | sunrunner20 | pff |
| 02:39.37 | sunrunner20 | interesting song |
| 02:41.07 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: what I did on my test bootloader is to add a b 0 to start.S just as it iw about to jump into ram. |
| 02:41.32 | joe_bleau | It relocates from flash to ram, right? |
| 02:41.34 | GPSFan_ | I use ocd commander to start the new bootloader at 0xfffc0100 |
| 02:41.35 | fishhead | GPS |
| 02:41.41 | fishhead | is all this all ppc board talk ? |
| 02:41.45 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: yes |
| 02:42.08 | joe_bleau | I can see why you were wanting to set a hardware breakpoint then... |
| 02:42.46 | GPSFan_ | it doesn't seem to work, but there is romstop which is almost as good. |
| 02:43.23 | joe_bleau | I don't know how the breakpoint hardware works...maybe it causes an exception, and OCD isn't expecting it |
| 02:44.06 | joe_bleau | Hey, my empty sector shows up in flinfo now |
| 02:44.28 | GPSFan_ | yeah, that's sort of cool. |
| 02:48.01 | fishhead | damn you guys see the prices on comact flash this week |
| 02:50.26 | silverpower | fishhead: link? |
| 02:50.41 | fishhead | hmm nothing directely I remeber |
| 02:50.48 | fishhead | other than www.surpluscomputers.com |
| 02:50.53 | fishhead | pqi 512 $29 |
| 02:50.57 | fishhead | 32x speed or somerhing |
| 02:51.14 | fishhead | 32 meg sd $6 |
| 02:51.49 | joe_bleau | ppcboot doesn't play nice with Cygwin |
| 02:52.33 | silverpower | fishhead: hey, that's not that bad of a link. |
| 02:53.01 | fishhead | yeah they have good deals sometimes too |
| 02:53.34 | sunrunner20 | *:\ |
| 02:53.51 | silverpower | I got a whole pile of cool stuff today for about $35 - an ADB keyboard, a USB scanner, a Sega Saturn, a Linksys bluebox router and this huge metal desk. |
| 02:54.08 | silverpower | Finally, a desk that can accommodate big monitors. |
| 02:55.24 | silverpower | of course, now I need a few power supplies. You get what you pay for, but still... I think I came out ahead. :) |
| 02:59.13 | fishhead | I got a rock |
| 02:59.15 | fishhead | :/ |
| 03:23.26 | joe_bleau | YES! |
| 03:26.30 | silverpower | what? |
| 03:27.00 | silverpower | did you get it any closer to realizing our various evil plans? |
| 03:27.33 | joe_bleau | I downloaded and ran code from inside ppcboot. |
| 03:41.55 | joe_bleau | Should I clean this example up and stick it on the Wiki (how to cross compile and run code under ppcboot)? |
| 03:51.02 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: yes that would be good. examples make you confident to go on to the next step. |
| 03:53.42 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: just got the new bootloader to write to flash, still have bss issues, but I think it may be a bug in ppcboot. time will tell. |
| 03:54.06 | joe_bleau | Funny thing...I can download and run, print to the console, read the console, and return to ppcboot. |
| 03:54.16 | joe_bleau | But if I try loads again, it doesn't work. |
| 03:55.54 | GPSFan_ | you want to try the hello world example I tried, I can dcc the srec file to you. |
| 03:56.26 | jbevren | GPSFan_: how comes the loader? :) |
| 03:56.52 | joe_bleau | I'm past that. Mine works, as long as it's loaded after reset. |
| 03:57.00 | joe_bleau | Run it several times...no problem. |
| 03:57.06 | joe_bleau | loads seems to be the thing. |
| 03:58.05 | jbevren | some kind of data leak in the loader? |
| 03:58.16 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: just got the new bootloader to write to flash, still have bss issues, but I think it may be a bug in ppcboot. time will tell. |
| 03:58.38 | GPSFan_ | s/joe_bleau/jbevren |
| 03:59.09 | joe_bleau | Well, it's not a showstopper. The fact that I can cross compile and run anything at all, accessing the ppcboot console, is pretty spiffy to me. |
| 03:59.38 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: how many times does it take before it fails? |
| 03:59.57 | joe_bleau | Just reset |
| 04:00.15 | joe_bleau | Downloaded 532 bytes to 0x400000 |
| 04:00.20 | GPSFan_ | as in cold start? |
| 04:00.47 | joe_bleau | ## Starting application at 0x00400000 ... |
| 04:00.47 | joe_bleau | Hello World! |
| 04:00.47 | joe_bleau | test_01.c, Jan 30 2006, 21:52:47 |
| 04:00.47 | joe_bleau | 1: test loop! |
| 04:00.47 | joe_bleau | 2: test loop! |
| 04:00.47 | joe_bleau | 3: test loop! |
| 04:00.49 | joe_bleau | 4: test loop! |
| 04:00.51 | joe_bleau | 5: test loop! |
| 04:00.53 | joe_bleau | 6: test loop! |
| 04:00.55 | joe_bleau | 7: test loop! |
| 04:00.57 | joe_bleau | 8: test loop! |
| 04:00.59 | joe_bleau | 9: test loop! |
| 04:01.01 | joe_bleau | 10: test loop! |
| 04:01.03 | joe_bleau | Now, hit a key, hit any key... |
| 04:01.05 | joe_bleau | You pressed: T (0x00000054) |
| 04:01.07 | joe_bleau | You pressed: h (0x00000068) |
| 04:01.09 | joe_bleau | You pressed: i (0x00000069) |
| 04:01.11 | joe_bleau | You pressed: s (0x00000073) |
| 04:01.13 | joe_bleau | You pressed: (0x00000020) |
| 04:01.15 | joe_bleau | You pressed: i (0x00000069) |
| 04:01.17 | joe_bleau | You pressed: s (0x00000073) |
| 04:01.19 | joe_bleau | You pressed: (0x00000020) |
| 04:01.21 | joe_bleau | You pressed: a (0x00000061) |
| 04:01.23 | joe_bleau | You pressed: (0x00000020) |
| 04:01.25 | joe_bleau | You pressed: t (0x00000074) |
| 04:01.27 | joe_bleau | You pressed: e (0x00000065) |
| 04:01.29 | joe_bleau | You pressed: s (0x00000073) |
| 04:01.31 | joe_bleau | You pressed: t (0x00000074) |
| 04:01.33 | joe_bleau | You pressed: (0x00000003) |
| 04:01.35 | joe_bleau | Caught crtl-c, returning to ppcboot |
| 04:01.37 | joe_bleau | ## Application terminated, rc = 0x0 |
| 04:01.39 | joe_bleau | loads and go 400000 again...works. Dangit. |
| 04:01.46 | jbevren | crimony wait for me, I'm reading scrollback :) |
| 04:02.31 | joe_bleau | Crap. Four times in a row, everything is just ducky. Makes me look like a liar. |
| 04:02.54 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: liar, liar, board's on fire... ;>) |
| 04:04.12 | GPSFan_ | jbevren: well it's now on to the environment, if the bl can write to flash ok, then it can store the env. |
| 04:04.25 | joe_bleau | Crap. I was running a serial capture log, but I flipped it off when I started the s-record stuff. |
| 04:04.46 | joe_bleau | Hey, set the default env to something useful for NFS boot. |
| 04:05.25 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: you will have to wait a day or two till you can save it ;>) |
| 04:05.32 | joe_bleau | (I'd be right there with you, but ppcboot wouldn't build for me) |
| 04:06.01 | joe_bleau | No hurry, I'm not setup to build kernels yet anyway. |
| 04:06.13 | GPSFan_ | I'll try to get a prilim patch for it so others can have fun too. it wouldn't build for me either at first. |
| 04:07.23 | joe_bleau | _cooked_size/_raw_size structure member errors sound about right? |
| 04:07.33 | joe_bleau | (in astest.c) |
| 04:07.52 | jbevren | GPSFan_: cool :) |
| 04:08.55 | GPSFan_ | atest was a problem, but I don't remember the exact error. |
| 04:09.24 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: what version of gcc? |
| 04:10.19 | joe_bleau | I'm gonna try disabling the gdb stuff |
| 04:10.24 | joe_bleau | No help there. |
| 04:10.32 | GPSFan_ | some of my problems went away going from 2.95 to 3.42 |
| 04:10.34 | joe_bleau | 3.2.3 |
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| 04:14.17 | jbevren | gcc version? |
| 04:14.30 | jbevren | all I know is I can build for mips ppc arm but not x86 |
| 04:14.31 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:14.54 | jbevren | gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release) |
| 04:15.02 | jbevren | thats what my kernels' built with |
| 04:15.03 | GPSFan_ | jbevren: it's the same toolchain I used for the A3000 userland stuff. |
| 04:15.12 | jbevren | ah |
| 04:15.17 | jbevren | same here (a3k kernel) |
| 04:15.27 | GPSFan_ | I used 2.95.? for the A3000 kernel |
| 04:15.31 | jbevren | did we ever do a wiki page for it? :) |
| 04:15.59 | joe_bleau | That's ok. Rub it in. But I got *in* early on this deal. |
| 04:16.57 | GPSFan_ | I think it all happened too fast, then sorphin lost interest, and I got involved in other projects. I have trouble working on that wiki too. |
| 04:17.29 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:17.34 | jbevren | and mine ended up a firewall |
| 04:17.35 | jbevren | :D |
| 04:17.39 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 04:17.46 | fishhead | you paying attention" |
| 04:18.30 | fishhead | yo |
| 04:18.37 | J4k3 | eh |
| 04:18.38 | jbevren | aparently not |
| 04:18.40 | fishhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.41 | jbevren | :) |
| 04:19.04 | jbevren | -fomg-ricer-al is a gentoo build option |
| 04:19.26 | joe_bleau | I just modified my hello world, loads, go, and it looks like crap. |
| 04:19.42 | joe_bleau | I think it's something to do with the console output, as I get output when I send it key hits. |
| 04:19.49 | J4k3 | haha |
| 04:20.39 | joe_bleau | So, I then wiped memory (mw 400000 0 1000), loaded again, and same thing: corrupt console. |
| 04:20.45 | joe_bleau | Console is fine once my program exits. |
| 04:21.29 | jbevren | doh |
| 04:21.41 | jbevren | turned on usb HID support and now I have undefined labels again |
| 04:21.44 | jbevren | grumble |
| 04:21.50 | jbevren | denx need a good beating |
| 04:22.50 | joe_bleau | ppcboot reports than I'm returning 0 at termination, but I'm sending back 0xdeadbeef. |
| 04:25.35 | silverpower | jbrevren: Fool! Everyone knows that -ffalsify-stack-trace -ffalsify-core-dumps is far more important. :P |
| 04:26.05 | fishhead | mmm |
| 04:26.07 | fishhead | deadbeef |
| 04:28.29 | Pablo | h4x0r |
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| 04:32.10 | GPSFan_ | jbevren: got the saving env working... !!!! now to test a bit more. |
| 04:49.35 | joe_bleau | Hey, I think I just build ppcboot |
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| 04:55.43 | fishhead | CANUCK |
| 04:55.48 | fishhead | :p |
| 04:55.50 | fishhead | hey d7 |
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| 04:57.11 | D7 | yo |
| 04:58.00 | FireEgl | =) |
| 05:14.23 | joe_bleau | Hey, it does build under Cygwin... |
| 05:44.26 | fishhead | how viable would usb keyboard and usb mouse be |
| 05:44.32 | fishhead | my stupid canuck friend gave me this idea |
| 05:44.53 | joe_bleau | ppcboot has some support for USB, but I don't know which controllers it's aware of |
| 05:45.30 | joe_bleau | ~30s left on the download... |
| 05:45.49 | fishhead | no I mean once the kernel etc is loaded |
| 05:46.19 | fishhead | what's the min speed I need x86 wise for decent mp3 playback |
| 05:46.34 | fishhead | and how well would a laptop hold up in 0F weather |
| 05:46.50 | fishhead | thinking of getting another laptop next military surplus show |
| 05:47.00 | fishhead | just a cheap pentium 1 this time for terminal/car mp3 player mabye |
| 05:47.17 | J4k3 | dude |
| 05:47.36 | J4k3 | it'd be far cheaper |
| 05:47.40 | J4k3 | to spend $20 on the ppc |
| 05:47.50 | J4k3 | than it would to screw around with trying to feed one of your clunker PCs |
| 05:48.05 | fishhead | the laptop has sound, cpu, disk, screen, keyboard |
| 05:48.08 | joe_bleau | Well, that didn't work. |
| 05:49.57 | fishhead | hmm |
| 05:50.05 | fishhead | guess I could just use a normal pc and a inverter |
| 05:50.15 | fishhead | that would let me choose much better quality sound chip |
| 05:50.49 | joe_bleau | GPSFan may be far ahead, but I'm catching up! |
| 05:50.51 | joe_bleau | => go 400100 |
| 05:50.51 | joe_bleau | ## Starting application at 0x00400100 ... |
| 05:50.51 | joe_bleau | PPCBoot 1.1.2 (Jan 30 2006 - 23:30:23) |
| 05:50.51 | joe_bleau | CPU: IBM PowerPC 405GP Rev. E at 264 MHz (PLB=66, OPB=33, EBC=33 MHz) |
| 05:50.51 | joe_bleau | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.52 | joe_bleau | Board: ### No HW ID - assuming DHTWALNUT405 |
| 05:50.52 | fishhead | I do need to get a shit laptop though |
| 05:50.54 | joe_bleau | DRAM: |
| 05:50.55 | fishhead | just for a dos term |
| 05:50.56 | joe_bleau | Reading DIMM... |
| 05:50.58 | joe_bleau | single-sided DIMM |
| 05:51.00 | joe_bleau | 32 MB |
| 05:51.02 | joe_bleau | FLASH: ## Unknown FLASH on Bank 0 - Size = 0x00000000 = 0 MB |
| 05:51.04 | joe_bleau | *** failed *** |
| 05:51.06 | joe_bleau | ### ERROR ### Please RESET the board ### |
| 05:51.12 | fishhead | YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE |
| 05:51.23 | fishhead | *CANUCKED* |
| 05:55.13 | fishhead | http://www.ryanspc.com/carmp3 |
| 05:59.15 | Pablo | joe_bleau, is that one of those 20$ powerpc boards |
| 06:01.26 | joe_bleau | Yes sir. |
| 06:02.17 | Pablo | ]nice |
| 06:02.20 | Pablo | hows it going? |
| 06:02.28 | Pablo | any luck yet? |
| 06:02.50 | joe_bleau | It'll boot linux, but you have to set the env stuff manually at each boot. |
| 06:03.00 | joe_bleau | GPSFan is about to fix that, if he hasn't already. |
| 06:03.05 | Pablo | cool |
| 06:03.06 | Pablo | :) |
| 06:03.23 | Pablo | what are you putting on it? |
| 06:03.43 | joe_bleau | about 11V, give or take. |
| 06:03.52 | Pablo | lol |
| 06:03.56 | Pablo | distro wise |
| 06:04.09 | Pablo | :P |
| 06:04.29 | joe_bleau | I dunno. I run Linux on a couple of routers, but my day to day boxes are win2k, openbsd, and irix. |
| 06:04.43 | joe_bleau | Don't have much time on PPC, either. |
| 06:04.47 | joe_bleau | Any recommendations? |
| 06:05.09 | Pablo | I have no idea... never messed with the ppc stuff either |
| 06:05.19 | Pablo | was curious about em though |
| 06:05.28 | Pablo | would make some good cpe's |
| 06:13.50 | fishhead | http://mcascar.tripod.com/pictures.htm |
| 06:13.51 | fishhead | hmm |
| 06:16.09 | joe_bleau | OK, my failed ram resident ppcboot is on the Wiki, along with the ppcboot diffs used to build it. |
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| 14:25.04 | jbevren | Morning KEn |
| 14:36.09 | GPSFan | jbevren: morning, you see I got saveenv working.. |
| 14:36.44 | prpplague | morning crack babies |
| 14:36.49 | jbevren | you did? |
| 14:36.52 | jbevren | I havent read backscroll |
| 14:36.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: you see the next pixter? |
| 14:37.05 | jbevren | prpplague: is it different? |
| 14:37.14 | GPSFan | yeah, I posted it last night here, you were probably asleep. |
| 14:37.41 | prpplague | jbevren: yea the new one looks pretty nice |
| 14:37.56 | prpplague | jbevren: haven't got the specs yet though |
| 14:38.09 | jbevren | GPSFan: known bugs worked out so far? :) |
| 14:38.16 | GPSFan | it's almost ready to be useable. still the crazy bss isssue, but the workaround seems to work. |
| 14:38.56 | GPSFan | gonna be pretty busy this morning, but will get back to it later today. |
| 14:39.57 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:40.05 | jbevren | I still need to get a kernel with HID to boot anyway |
| 14:40.06 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:40.07 | jbevren | er |
| 14:40.09 | jbevren | to -build- |
| 14:40.20 | GPSFan | I put the env space at fffb0000. the new bl reads & writes it correctly, but there is an issue with protecting that sector. the new bl protects it, but if I reboot, the old one doesn't see it as protected. |
| 14:40.38 | jbevren | prpplague: Sorry, gp? :) |
| 14:40.43 | prpplague | gamepark |
| 14:42.35 | GPSFan | I'm gonna try and release a patch for ppcboot 1.12 later on today. joe_blau already put one up on the wiki, to run ppcboot out of ram but it doesn't quite work. I want to take my mods & combine with his and we may have a ram runable bl soon. |
| 14:43.24 | GPSFan | that would speed things up a bit, and provide a safety jtag loadable reovery system. |
| 14:46.19 | jbevren | ok |
| 14:48.21 | GPSFan | bbl |
| 15:28.04 | jbevren | apparently you have to have tty support to have usb hid |
| 15:28.08 | jbevren | that seems .. silly |
| 15:28.09 | jbevren | :) |
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| 15:56.07 | jbevren | heh now I want to go home and play with my ppc board |
| 15:56.11 | jbevren | fb and all compiled in |
| 16:23.08 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.10 | prpplague | ebay |
| 16:24.08 | jbevren | the hell? |
| 16:24.12 | jbevren | I have no search blank |
| 16:24.40 | jbevren | ah, that one again |
| 16:24.52 | jbevren | so have you worked with them before? |
| 16:25.30 | prpplague | jbevren: i had one years ago |
| 16:25.38 | prpplague | jbevren: paid about $2k for it |
| 16:27.42 | jbevren | any good? :) |
| 16:30.08 | prpplague | jbevren: not worth 2k |
| 16:30.29 | jbevren | hehe |
| 16:31.32 | jbevren | oo |
| 16:31.37 | jbevren | it'll drive a 640x480 sharp tft? |
| 16:31.39 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:31.48 | prpplague | jbevren: not very well |
| 16:32.03 | prpplague | not if you want to use anything that is dma intensive |
| 16:32.11 | jbevren | naw |
| 16:32.13 | jbevren | just simple display |
| 16:32.43 | jbevren | of all things, I cant find a stinking p166 non-mmx |
| 16:32.50 | jbevren | so one of my flatpanel systems is useless |
| 16:33.02 | jbevren | it has said lcd, and an elo touchscreen controller |
| 16:33.04 | jbevren | heh |
| 16:38.54 | jbevren | prpplague: think the sa1100 can read an elo touch panel? |
| 16:38.58 | jbevren | theyre resistive iirc |
| 16:49.19 | prpplague | jbevren: yea just need a good adc |
| 16:49.39 | jbevren | it has a TS controller on the board |
| 16:49.41 | jbevren | (?)_ |
| 16:56.21 | jbevren | I could just use the rs232 TS controller |
| 16:56.28 | jbevren | heh |
| 16:56.50 | jbevren | I should put my multimeter across the touch screen to see what sort of readings I get |
| 17:16.17 | prpplague | jbevren: be careful you might toast the ts |
| 17:16.31 | jbevren | with a low-current meter you think? |
| 17:16.38 | jbevren | hrm |
| 17:16.52 | jbevren | how about measuring drive and current with the controller hooked up :) |
| 17:19.57 | jbevren | heh |
| 17:20.05 | jbevren | serial2 can be 3.3v cmos instead of rs232 |
| 17:20.15 | jbevren | that'd save me from having to make level shifters |
| 17:20.16 | jbevren | mwahah |
| 17:26.12 | GPSFan | re |
| 17:28.00 | jbevren | wb |
| 17:29.54 | GPSFan | got the bl running out of ram, I learned enough from joe_blau's patch to get it going, I'm putting together a new patch now. |
| 17:32.06 | jbevren | nice :) |
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| 17:43.58 | prpplague | greetings folks |
| 17:44.05 | jbevren | rfe |
| 17:44.09 | jbevren | -f |
| 17:58.36 | jbevren | prpplague: looks like a pretty straightforward setup |
| 17:58.40 | jbevren | this board.. |
| 17:58.48 | prpplague | jbevren: yep |
| 17:59.42 | jbevren | next step is finding one from someone with their head where it doesnt smell poopy |
| 17:59.49 | jbevren | they only take paypal |
| 17:59.50 | jbevren | heh |
| 17:59.57 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:00.13 | jbevren | I"d use paypal |
| 18:00.19 | jbevren | -if- I could verify my address |
| 18:00.26 | jbevren | but I cant, because I made a -single- typo |
| 18:00.33 | jbevren | so I'll never be able to use that card again |
| 18:00.39 | prpplague | really? |
| 18:00.44 | prpplague | sounds kinda silly |
| 18:01.01 | prpplague | jbevren: you spoke to someone at paypal? |
| 18:12.35 | jbevren | yeah |
| 18:12.38 | jbevren | and thats what they told me |
| 18:12.43 | jbevren | I have to use a -different- card |
| 18:12.53 | jbevren | even if I remove my card and re-add it like a month later |
| 18:13.00 | jbevren | it'll just set off a security alert |
| 18:13.16 | jbevren | apparently they keep your credit card info even when you remove it |
| 18:13.27 | jbevren | we even discussed how removing and recreating the account wont work |
| 18:13.30 | jbevren | cause theyll still have my cc info |
| 18:14.33 | jbevren | I dunno |
| 18:14.36 | jbevren | that sounds like fraud to me |
| 18:14.37 | jbevren | brb |
| 18:16.51 | GPSFan | prpplague: just updated the wiki with my ppcboot ram patch and binary. |
| 18:17.34 | prpplague | GPSFan: cool deal |
| 18:19.11 | GPSFan | next have to test loading it via jtag, will be slow due to large file size, but if it works, we will be able to recover a hosed board. |
| 18:28.09 | GPSFan | it worked!! only took about 30 sec to download the srec file. "ain't jtag great!!" |
| 18:28.47 | jbevren | nice :) |
| 18:28.58 | jbevren | how big is it? |
| 18:29.28 | GPSFan | the srec file is 452064 the binary is 157204 |
| 18:30.00 | jbevren | granted, 160k isnt huge |
| 18:30.03 | jbevren | but still :) |
| 18:30.51 | GPSFan | ppcboot is a BIG bootloader, it has builtin bedbug which is sort of like ocd commander. I'll probably turn it off in the final version. |
| 18:31.10 | prpplague | jeeze 160k ??? |
| 18:31.11 | prpplague | wow |
| 18:32.01 | GPSFan | sure compared to apex, it's huge, but it does a lot too. and since there is no room for the kernel in the flash why not use the space for usefull stuff. |
| 18:32.45 | prpplague | GPSFan: what does it do? |
| 18:32.51 | prpplague | GPSFan: i mean, give me an example |
| 18:33.00 | prpplague | GPSFan: of something that offsets the size |
| 18:33.05 | GPSFan | builtin disassembler and debugger. |
| 18:33.17 | jbevren | how about a mini-assembler :) |
| 18:33.26 | jbevren | I have a mini disassembler in 4k |
| 18:33.30 | jbevren | (not ppc tho! :) |
| 18:33.57 | GPSFan | yeah, it has the asembler too. |
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| 18:36.24 | GPSFan | it seems like it has compiled (maybe loaded) a lot of modules that were not asked for in the config, like pcmcia support, the nvram support. Still leraning about configuring this beast, all the better to prepare for an apex port. |
| 18:37.46 | prpplague | anyone gonna get a pixter multimedia? |
| 18:41.38 | jbevren | I have too much to hack/use as it is |
| 18:43.25 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:43.34 | jbevren | I need something to run an lcd panel tho |
| 20:29.03 | fishhead | I need more old legacy laptop devices |
| 20:29.08 | fishhead | for terminals |
| 20:29.19 | fishhead | I should put back together my epson HX20 |
| 20:29.29 | fishhead | now I want a TRS80 too :P |
| 20:29.34 | fishhead | or was it TRS100 |
| 20:29.37 | fishhead | the one with the lcd |
| 20:31.54 | fishhead | KVM switch and network infrastructure management specialist Avocent plans to add Linux expertise to its portfolio with the acquisition of Cyclades. |
| 20:33.36 | fishhead | http://www.maniacworld.com/game_console_history/TRS80Model100.htm |
| 20:33.37 | fishhead | mmmm |
| 20:36.41 | jbevren | heh |
| 20:36.43 | jbevren | I used to want one |
| 20:38.50 | fishhead | i want them for simple display terminals etc |
| 20:39.01 | fishhead | standalone they are pretty useless |
| 20:39.27 | fishhead | I have a digiboard 16 port unit where I used to work threw out it's probably still worth like $1000 |
| 20:39.34 | fishhead | goign to string rs232 all over the house |
| 20:39.35 | fishhead | muhahaha |
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| 20:41.53 | J4k3 | ugh digiboard |
| 20:42.15 | J4k3 | I'm a much bigger fan of graceful serial solutions, like the livingston portmaster 2. |
| 20:43.22 | J4k3 | hmm... nice day |
| 20:43.36 | J4k3 | I should go put something in the air.... like a pacwireless rootenna 14 or two. |
| 20:43.42 | fishhead | dude |
| 20:43.50 | fishhead | the p2 will always have a place in my heart |
| 20:43.59 | fishhead | we had a 2e-10 at work and I was sorry to have to retire it |
| 20:44.04 | fishhead | when we killed the dial in lines |
| 20:44.09 | fishhead | I buried it with 16 meg of ram, the max |
| 20:44.13 | fishhead | as a memorial |
| 20:44.50 | fishhead | omg |
| 20:44.56 | fishhead | i wonder if the college still has it |
| 20:44.59 | fishhead | i should tell them to ebay it |
| 20:45.05 | fishhead | I think the grant is up finally |
| 20:45.22 | J4k3 | dude |
| 20:45.26 | J4k3 | the pm2 is only worth $5-10 |
| 20:45.27 | J4k3 | tops |
| 20:45.30 | J4k3 | after ebay fees |
| 20:45.42 | J4k3 | hell, I have a spare 2eR-20 here |
| 20:45.45 | J4k3 | collecting dust |
| 20:45.58 | fishhead | sell them or trade them to people who use them for embedded projects |
| 20:45.58 | J4k3 | and a 2ei-5 (5 BRIs) |
| 20:46.03 | fishhead | using serial networks |
| 20:46.33 | fishhead | i'd post on craigslist |
| 20:46.33 | fishhead | someone might trade you some wireless gear or something |
| 20:46.33 | fishhead | mabye an old laptop |
| 20:46.37 | fishhead | hey it's better than just gathering dust |
| 20:46.58 | fishhead | hmm |
| 20:47.03 | fishhead | i wonder if the ones with bri's have more value |
| 20:47.12 | fishhead | could they be used for something to do with voip etc |
| 20:48.11 | fishhead | bought this brand new for $25, sat new in a store for 20 yrs, batts were short and it was covered with filth but it did power up |
| 20:48.29 | fishhead | it's in pieces and I think the tape drive and printer are ruined cause they kinda got sweapt on the floor by my mom |
| 20:48.36 | fishhead | I wasn't planning to use either anyways |
| 20:49.17 | fishhead | you know some industral gear still running uses these things :P |
| 20:49.27 | fishhead | ooo better yrl |
| 20:49.28 | fishhead | http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/epson-hx20/ |
| 20:50.05 | fishhead | http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/epson-hx20/ <--- mabye I will start reviving this today :) |
| 21:15.12 | fishhead | http://nectarine.dhs.nu//synth/dma%20sc-odd%20stuff%20main.mp3 <--- all hail the mother of all chiptunes |
| 21:29.14 | D7 | idiots |
| 21:29.49 | fishhead | she's smart though, bought a baby monitor so when she's here visiting with my grandma she can keep tabs on her |
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