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| 02:39.47 | joe_bleau | Well, crap. Seems like everyone is making PPC progress, and I'm stuck working |
| 02:40.36 | Pablo | hmm |
| 02:40.44 | Pablo | I am still waiting on my invoice |
| 02:41.42 | joe_bleau | Did you do the paypal payment option |
| 02:43.04 | Pablo | yes |
| 02:43.43 | joe_bleau | I waited two days before growing impatient and emailing a query...that seemed to get their attention. |
| 02:44.06 | joe_bleau | Can't really complain...I've been using BGM for a long time, and they're good people. |
| 03:58.05 | GPSFan | joe_bleau: some progress, yes, but mucho frustration, I got a ram based bl going, but then found a problem with 115200 baou, fixed that, then had problems with the PHY address not being correct, fixed that, then the ethernet dosen't work, still working on that. |
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| 04:21.53 | joe_bleau | I'm sure you'll whip it...too close not too. |
| 04:22.25 | joe_bleau | I was a little surprised to see your update on the Wiki this morning |
| 04:26.43 | GPSFan | I figured out what I had done wrong on the ram based version by looking at your patch. |
| 04:28.23 | joe_bleau | I was hoping to prod some kind of info out of you by releasing early ;-) |
| 04:28.56 | joe_bleau | Now if only the guys with vast sdram collections would step up and figure out what works and what doesn't |
| 04:29.06 | joe_bleau | I want big cheap sdram! |
| 04:31.43 | GPSFan | I'm working on the ethernet problem atm, but as a part of that I'm trying to move the bl up to 116. well, something changed in the dram timing calculations, it crashes while setting up the dram controller. |
| 04:33.50 | joe_bleau | Should we be looking at moving to something newer, such as u-boot? |
| 04:49.45 | GPSFan | not sure, uboot has gotten awefully bloated. I still want to be able to fit 2 copies of the bl into the flash. |
| 04:50.44 | joe_bleau | And switch between the two by modifiying the word at 0xfffffffc? |
| 04:51.10 | joe_bleau | BTW, does iminfo report a valid image on your bootloader? |
| 04:51.25 | GPSFan | yes, or just go fffc0100 or go fff80100 |
| 04:51.50 | GPSFan | sorry, no it doesn't. |
| 04:52.23 | joe_bleau | If you mod the initial jump, you're selection survives a power cycle |
| 04:52.31 | joe_bleau | s/your/you're |
| 04:52.54 | GPSFan | true. |
| 04:53.22 | GPSFan | but then so does the environment now. |
| 04:54.23 | joe_bleau | And that is *very* impressive. |
| 04:56.01 | GPSFan | not really, the code was there and worked, I just figured out how to enable it and get the config right. |
| 04:58.01 | joe_bleau | Yeah, sure. Right. But until you fixed it, no one could do an unattended boot. |
| 04:59.09 | GPSFan | ;>) |
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| 05:00.02 | joe_bleau | Wonder how the designers intended it to boot unattended. /dev/hda would have been what? |
| 05:00.25 | fishhead | tonsoffishheads |
| 05:03.15 | fishhead | so guys |
| 05:03.21 | fishhead | how comes the ppc board |
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| 05:20.46 | tonsmandriva | hi fishhead |
| 05:21.21 | fishhead | hey |
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| 05:31.27 | Pablo | haha |
| 05:31.39 | Pablo | that bgm place is |
| 05:31.39 | Pablo | Total Est. Distance: 3.97 miles |
| 05:31.39 | Pablo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.41 | Pablo | thats funny |
| 05:42.41 | tonsmandriva | lol |
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| 06:57.26 | stevee | Anyone have working experience with CONFIG_SERIAL_TEXT_DEBUG? Particularly with XUARTLITE? |
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| 13:28.25 | jbevren | _o/ |
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| 13:32.36 | prpplague | morning folks |
| 13:33.48 | tonsmandriva | hi |
| 13:34.18 | prpplague | tonsmandriva: greetings, you're new here |
| 13:34.33 | prpplague | tonsmandriva: whatch hacking? Juicebox? zipit? walnut? |
| 13:35.34 | tonsmandriva | i'm just here cus fishhead wouldn't stop bugging me til i showed up ;) |
| 13:38.44 | prpplague | tonsmandriva: i see |
| 13:38.49 | prpplague | tonsmandriva: my apologies |
| 13:39.22 | tonsmandriva | ;) |
| 13:39.28 | tonsmandriva | i'm still a crazy tech though |
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| 13:39.46 | tonsofpcs | a very craz y tech :) |
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| 13:40.46 | tonsofpcs | http://www.old-computers.com/club/collectors/ordis.asp?c=4698 << that's maybe 1/6 or 1/5 of them, I'm not allowed to put x86s on there unless they played some role in history or are unique |
| 13:40.48 | tonsofpcs | ;) |
| 13:41.57 | tonsofpcs | what I really want to do is figure out a way to get a nice system into one of http://www.tonsofpcs.com/portable3/ |
| 13:42.37 | tonsofpcs | bah, i gotta go to work, cya later |
| 13:43.24 | prpplague | yea i reworked one of those years ago |
| 13:45.13 | prpplague | tonsofpcs: always thought that was one of compaq's better units |
| 13:45.46 | prpplague | that would be nice to put an ARM in |
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| 14:00.57 | jbevren | hmm |
| 14:01.01 | jbevren | prpplague: or a couple arms hehe |
| 14:01.21 | prpplague | jbevren: ones enough for me |
| 14:03.19 | prpplague | jbevren: put a s3c2410 in there |
| 14:07.12 | jbevren | indeed |
| 14:07.15 | jbevren | should be quite fast |
| 14:07.37 | prpplague | yea would have usb , plenty of storage and run well on the size of battery thats already there |
| 14:15.30 | jbevren | and you get the elite plasma display :) |
| 14:17.32 | prpplague | yep |
| 14:17.38 | prpplague | that would be a cute hack |
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| 14:31.18 | jbevren | Morning Ken |
| 14:33.23 | GPSFan | jbevren: howdy |
| 14:34.37 | jbevren | I'm planning to return home this evening |
| 14:34.54 | jbevren | then I get to play with usb and fbcon on the ppc board |
| 14:42.15 | GPSFan | good, someone needs to play with cool userland stuff. I hope to get back to the bootloader later today. after gettng the ram based bl running, I found that the ethernet didn't work. first it was the PHY address, normally it is 0, or 1, on this board it's 9. ask me how I know... |
| 14:47.34 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:47.38 | jbevren | I plan a few things |
| 14:47.43 | jbevren | netsane on one |
| 14:47.51 | jbevren | I need to find a cheap narrow pci scsi card :) |
| 14:48.00 | jbevren | another will be a silent xterm :) |
| 14:48.22 | jbevren | I do know the default build of asterisk doesnt work well |
| 14:48.23 | jbevren | hehe |
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| 15:04.41 | cougarvt | has anyone tried out the jtag tools patch for the cvs version (0.6)? |
| 15:05.05 | cougarvt | it seems to be working fine but would like some input before sending it to the openwince guys |
| 15:19.26 | prpplague | cougarvt: sorry, no i've not had time |
| 15:20.05 | prpplague | cougarvt: i'd go ahead and send it in |
| 15:20.35 | prpplague | cougarvt: if you find problems you can always submit a second patch |
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| 15:38.50 | cougarvt | prpplague: i'll send them the patch and keep playing with it. i can peek and poke but am still new to jtag so am unsure of myself |
| 15:40.33 | cougarvt | prpplague: one other issue is that the 0.6 version has Sharp using the same id in MANUFACTURERS (i just removed sharp). |
| 15:41.11 | prpplague | cougarvt: oh fudge, sorry, i was tinkering with using that app for a sharp processor, must have left some bits in there |
| 15:43.15 | cougarvt | prpplague: i don't think it was from your 0.51 patch because i remember having that problem before too. either way it's simple enough to fix |
| 15:43.39 | prpplague | cougarvt: oh ok |
| 15:46.44 | prpplague | cougarvt: make sure you give some credit for the changes to the guy who did the original work supporting the s3c44b0x |
| 16:01.42 | cougarvt | prpplague: i didn't change/add much to the patch itself (i don't think my name is in it even) and i told the openwince dev that i didn't write the code, just put the patch together |
| 16:02.27 | cougarvt | basically you and the fella who wrote the bus driver did all the work, i just put it together for the cvs head |
| 16:08.21 | prpplague | cougarvt: ok, i'm not really concerned about my part, mainly the guy that did the bus work |
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| 16:11.36 | cougarvt | prpplague: does the 'flashmem' command copy a file into memory? i.e. is that what you use to execute your own code? |
| 16:13.45 | prpplague | cougarvt: that command is suppose to copy something from ram to flash, but it was never implemented on the juicebox |
| 16:15.09 | cougarvt | prpplague: i know you are heavily involved in this project and are very busy. is there a better channel/person to talk to? my questions are going to be pretty basic as i'm just really starting to learn jtag/embedded hacking techniques |
| 16:15.46 | cougarvt | i don't so much mean now, but in general - i'm at work and need to go pretty soon anyway. |
| 16:17.08 | cougarvt | is there a way to copy a file to mem other than poking each address (from a script)? |
| 16:22.51 | prpplague | cougarvt: yea, you should be able to just copy from the stdin |
| 16:23.00 | prpplague | cougarvt: one sec |
| 16:26.07 | prpplague | cougarvt: sorry, i was mistaken, the openwince tools don't support that |
| 16:26.15 | prpplague | cougarvt: you could add it pretty easy though |
| 16:26.41 | prpplague | cougarvt: here and #elinux are the best channels for general disscusion |
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| 16:29.25 | cougarvt | thanks |
| 16:40.40 | Pablo_C | hi |
| 16:40.47 | sherbang | think it'll come today? |
| 16:41.07 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:44.16 | prpplague | Pablo_C: greetings |
| 16:52.26 | Pablo_C | hi |
| 16:58.55 | prpplague | fishhead: thanks for the update |
| 16:59.03 | fishhead | sorry :P |
| 17:02.13 | Pablo_C | omg |
| 17:02.20 | Pablo_C | fishhead has IBS |
| 17:02.45 | fishhead | uhh I don't leak |
| 17:02.58 | fishhead | I have the extreme opposite most of the time |
| 17:03.02 | fishhead | ended up in the ER in fact |
| 17:04.33 | prpplague | fishhead: way too much info |
| 17:05.06 | Pablo_C | yes |
| 17:05.09 | Pablo_C | I agree |
| 17:05.24 | fishhead | hey |
| 17:05.27 | fishhead | he made the diaper comment |
| 17:06.00 | prpplague | ~seen sorphoin |
| 17:06.03 | purl | i haven't seen 'sorphoin', prpplague |
| 17:06.03 | prpplague | ~seen sorphin |
| 17:06.04 | purl | sorphin <n=dans@mewp.captainrock.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 22d 18h 59m 40s ago, saying: 'eh?'. |
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| 17:12.23 | Pablo_Cafe | o.O |
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| 18:43.30 | fishhead | anyone here done serial bootstrapping with m68k, espically dragonball series?? |
| 18:45.27 | jbevren | trying to revive your palm? |
| 18:47.51 | fishhead | yep |
| 18:47.57 | fishhead | the old one |
| 18:48.06 | jbevren | what model is it again? |
| 18:48.12 | jbevren | I cant help, but I"m curious :) |
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| 18:50.30 | fishhead | IIIxe |
| 18:50.38 | fishhead | I also have a IIIx they both use the same rom |
| 18:50.45 | jbevren | ah |
| 18:50.47 | jbevren | heh |
| 18:50.50 | jbevren | I just got a IIIxe |
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| 18:51.04 | jbevren | surpluscomputers.com had em for $30ish |
| 18:51.09 | fishhead | upgrade it to 4.2 the last m68k os |
| 18:51.21 | jbevren | do you have a copy of the upgrade? |
| 18:51.23 | jbevren | or is that free |
| 18:52.08 | fishhead | it's not free but a) no m68k palms made in at least 3 yrs |
| 18:52.24 | fishhead | b) palm no longer sells an os upgrade at all, it's now "fuck you, get a new one" |
| 18:52.29 | fishhead | so fuck palm |
| 18:52.34 | fishhead | you can find it on any p2p |
| 18:53.28 | jbevren | that explains why theyre cheap hehe |
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| 19:19.33 | GPSFan | jbevren: got the ethernet working (I think) and solved the bss init problem. also at ppcboot 1.1.6 now. works out of ram. need to test some more. |
| 19:20.00 | jbevren | woot |
| 19:20.00 | jbevren | :) |
| 19:20.19 | jbevren | I'm pondering if this work is somewhat moot considering the plans for an apex port |
| 19:20.25 | jbevren | shrug |
| 19:20.31 | jbevren | not that I dont appreciate the progress :D |
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| 19:21.16 | GPSFan | yeah, it works, i can load stuff via tftp |
| 19:21.32 | jbevren | http://70.86.201.113/imageserv2/temporary/PBF088ADWorldChampion.gif |
| 19:22.38 | GPSFan | jbevren: it's all education for me, I looked at the aped code yesterday, it's all arm based, so a ppc port would be breaking new ground. |
| 19:22.47 | GPSFan | s/aped/apex |
| 19:23.19 | jbevren | ahh |
| 19:23.25 | jbevren | lots of asm in it? |
| 19:24.43 | GPSFan | a fair ammount, all the low level interrupt stuff as well as start.S init.S. |
| 19:25.16 | GPSFan | I think I'll hold off on claiming I'm gonna do an apex port for a while. |
| 19:25.21 | jbevren | start and init, I imagine, would have lots of asm at any rate |
| 19:25.56 | GPSFan | probably lift most of it from ppcboot. |
| 19:26.50 | GPSFan | now I gotta go back and fix the dimm setup stuff in 1.1.6, it didn't work last night so I just stuffed the right values in the control reg's |
| 19:29.08 | GPSFan | btw, iminfo works on a valid image. |
| 19:29.11 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 19:30.00 | jbevren | heh |
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| 19:30.01 | jbevren | :) |
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| 21:35.35 | jbevren | cool |
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| 23:58.24 | joe_bleau | DHT-Walnut sdram compatibility: do I need to test by booting all the way into the denx kernel, or will a successful ppcboot boot tell us everything we need to know. |
| 23:58.40 | joe_bleau | I went fishing today and grabbed all the memory I could find at work. |
