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| 00:04.12 | al | GUYS |
| 00:04.27 | al | flyback/fishhead heew |
| 00:04.32 | al | listen |
| 00:04.34 | al | www.lcdinfo.com |
| 00:04.41 | al | yo9u haVE got to check this out |
| 00:05.01 | al | they hAVE lAPTOP lcd's working off a pc without an expensive lcd controller card |
| 00:05.15 | al | just using a OLD video card with a vesa feature connector |
| 00:05.51 | al | bbl |
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| 00:11.10 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 00:11.41 | sunrunner20 | lemmie look jbevren |
| 00:11.54 | sunrunner20 | any good at analoge anybody? |
| 00:13.45 | sunrunner20 | jbevren: italy is socket 940 |
| 00:13.53 | sunrunner20 | aka otpy 270 |
| 00:14.18 | sunrunner20 | first digit is the ""x" way" of the proccessor |
| 00:14.18 | sunrunner20 | so |
| 00:14.24 | sunrunner20 | 165 is one way |
| 00:14.34 | sunrunner20 | 270 is up to two way |
| 00:14.38 | sunrunner20 | 880 is 8 way |
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| 02:29.53 | overseer | is there a digit field for "dual core" or not? |
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| 02:45.04 | sunrunner20 | no |
| 02:45.59 | sunrunner20 | you have to check by model |
| 02:49.48 | overseer | ack |
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| 03:39.01 | fishhead | so is the pixter really hackable ? |
| 03:39.39 | fishhead | www.lcdinfo.com their forum is full of hacking lcd's from dead cell phones, etc |
| 03:40.09 | fishhead | they got a hack that uses the vesa feature connector on a old pci or isa video card to drive a tft lcd from a old laptop, you only get 16 or 256 colors but still pretty cool |
| 03:40.50 | fishhead | heh most of my boxes only need displays for status and bios setup so this is perfect, I think I will be dumping more crt's at the local recycler very soon |
| 03:47.21 | fishhead | man I saw the geek's wet dream at walmart tonight, 12 pack of redbull for $20, I was tempted |
| 04:27.43 | jbevren | heh |
| 04:27.52 | jbevren | yeah well I picked up a nice 17" dell display for $12. |
| 04:27.53 | jbevren | :) |
| 04:28.31 | fishhead | how |
| 04:28.34 | fishhead | oh crt |
| 04:28.40 | fishhead | doesn't count |
| 04:31.25 | jbevren | it does if the picture is good |
| 04:32.32 | jbevren | I really enjoy LCD's but crt's are great for test projects since theyre cheap and plentiful |
| 04:32.33 | jbevren | lcd's also suffer from colorspace reproduction issues |
| 04:32.33 | jbevren | like, |
| 04:32.33 | jbevren | the complete lack of the color 'black' |
| 04:34.33 | jbevren | joe_bleau: your page has an error |
| 04:34.38 | jbevren | http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-WalnutInstallingTheUpdatedBootloader |
| 04:34.51 | jbevren | the second crc operation to verify the image in flash isnt updated for ppcboot 1.1.6.1, but the first one is |
| 04:35.22 | jbevren | joe_bleau: ping :) |
| 04:35.29 | joe_bleau | That's GPSFan for you, only doing the job halfway. |
| 04:35.35 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:35.41 | jbevren | anyway |
| 04:35.46 | joe_bleau | Wonder what else he forgot to update. |
| 04:35.47 | jbevren | things look good, I have 1.1.6.1 in flash now |
| 04:35.50 | jbevren | cross fingers :) |
| 04:36.03 | joe_bleau | I just powered up to do some clock rate testing |
| 04:36.14 | jbevren | version number isnt updated? |
| 04:36.33 | joe_bleau | You're asking *me*? |
| 04:36.33 | jbevren | TOD shows later date though |
| 04:36.36 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:36.37 | jbevren | sure! |
| 04:39.16 | jbevren | and ide dma works |
| 04:39.17 | jbevren | whoot |
| 04:39.19 | jbevren | :) |
| 04:50.44 | jbevren | now to work out usb :( |
| 05:15.54 | jbevren | it's not an ehci issue, its not a full hid/hidbp issue |
| 05:16.03 | jbevren | denx just screwed the kernel over I think |
| 05:16.20 | jbevren | and I have no idea how to rummage through the tty input layer |
| 05:19.21 | joe_bleau | Feb 5 2006 - 21:38:51 ? |
| 05:22.59 | jbevren | yeah |
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| 05:23.06 | jbevren | given ide dma works, and it didnt before |
| 05:23.14 | jbevren | I'm assuming I'musing the new ppcboot :) |
| 05:23.48 | joe_bleau | My previous version was "Feb 4 2006 - 10:20:30" |
| 05:23.49 | fishhead | I haven't even turned mine on yet :/ |
| 05:23.57 | jbevren | as is mine |
| 05:23.59 | jbevren | er, was |
| 05:24.10 | jbevren | sigh |
| 05:24.15 | jbevren | there is no reason for this keyboard to not work |
| 05:24.27 | jbevren | I maintain that the kernel sources are broken |
| 05:27.08 | joe_bleau | OK, I fixed the crc and version stuff, and added the bootup message. |
| 05:27.40 | jbevren | k |
| 05:28.37 | joe_bleau | TheseWikiNamesAreReallyGettingOutOfHand,EspeciallyWhenTheyAllNeedToHaveTheDHT-WalnurStuffOnTheFrontOfThem. |
| 05:28.59 | jbevren | heh |
| 05:29.03 | jbevren | the wiki needs to support trees |
| 05:29.10 | jbevren | dht-walnut/installingbootloader |
| 05:29.11 | jbevren | or does it |
| 05:29.26 | joe_bleau | Maybe behind the scenes? |
| 05:29.26 | jbevren | by golly |
| 05:29.30 | jbevren | it does |
| 05:30.23 | joe_bleau | If you get a chance, proof my changes just in case I fubar'd. |
| 05:31.06 | jbevren | quick skim looks good |
| 05:31.28 | jbevren | grr. |
| 05:31.37 | jbevren | why does event0 work but console doesnt |
| 05:31.42 | jbevren | this is getting quite irritating |
| 05:37.36 | fishhead | MY STUPID |
| 05:37.37 | fishhead | STUPID |
| 05:37.40 | fishhead | CANUCK FRIEND |
| 05:37.51 | fishhead | I must have pasted about the juicebox 1200 times in my channel |
| 05:37.54 | fishhead | ranting about it |
| 05:37.57 | fishhead | today |
| 05:38.04 | fishhead | "oh you think this juicebox thing is hackable" |
| 05:38.08 | fishhead | he finally discovers it |
| 05:42.59 | fishhead | http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/799377/0 <--- phear |
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| 05:58.42 | jbevren | further irritation |
| 05:58.50 | jbevren | usb kbd works in X |
| 05:58.53 | jbevren | but still not console |
| 05:59.02 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.02 | joe_bleau | Interesting |
| 05:59.12 | jbevren | oh, and the 'mga' driver doesnt work |
| 05:59.22 | jbevren | it just corrupts the screen and goes to 100% cpu |
| 05:59.30 | joe_bleau | Why would you expect it to work? |
| 05:59.38 | jbevren | because it's a crossplatform driver |
| 05:59.47 | jbevren | that did, at one time, work on my powercomputing powermac |
| 06:00.00 | jbevren | it allegedly works on alpha too |
| 06:00.30 | jbevren | maybe it stopped working when it went from X3 to X4.. I havent tried X on a ppc since X 3.3.6 |
| 06:05.07 | joe_bleau | Anyone know of a good ppc assembly reference? Dummy's guide to the 405GP level? |
| 06:05.18 | fishhead | YOUR MOM |
| 06:05.28 | jbevren | shrug, I'd think anything for the 603 series, minus FPU instructions |
| 06:05.37 | jbevren | fishhead: this is exactly why youre on ignore with so manypeople |
| 06:05.49 | J4k3 | he needs a kline. |
| 06:05.57 | fishhead | no sense of humor |
| 06:05.58 | jbevren | cause while its possible, I doubt that joe's mom has knowledge in powerpc |
| 06:06.40 | fishhead | j4k3 and half the time you need a bullet to the head |
| 06:06.46 | fishhead | what's your point? |
| 06:06.55 | jbevren | I need a bullet to the head? |
| 06:07.04 | jbevren | explain why |
| 06:07.06 | fishhead | not you |
| 06:07.08 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 06:07.14 | jbevren | <fishhead> j4k3 and half the time you need a bullet to the head |
| 06:07.16 | jbevren | I do? |
| 06:07.20 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 06:07.23 | fishhead | NOT JBE |
| 06:07.25 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.29 | fishhead | <J4k3> he needs a kline. |
| 06:07.36 | fishhead | lay off the fucking crack jbevren |
| 06:07.49 | jbevren | me? crack? |
| 06:07.55 | jbevren | youre the one changing context mid-discussion |
| 06:08.03 | fishhead | <jbevren> fishhead: this is exactly why youre on ignore with so manypeople |
| 06:08.03 | fishhead | <J4k3> he needs a kline. |
| 06:08.09 | fishhead | are you just stupid tonight or what? |
| 06:08.18 | jbevren | no, but apparently you are |
| 06:08.24 | jbevren | no sense of humor |
| 06:08.25 | jbevren | :) |
| 06:08.38 | fishhead | he's not kidding |
| 06:08.45 | jbevren | neither was I |
| 06:08.56 | fishhead | fuck you both them |
| 06:08.59 | jbevren | naw |
| 06:09.01 | fishhead | and goodnight |
| 06:09.01 | jbevren | youre not woman enough |
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| 06:09.19 | jbevren | did I just out-troll fishy? |
| 06:10.04 | jbevren | and for an excersize in pain, I'm installing firefox lol |
| 06:10.06 | J4k3 | dude |
| 06:10.07 | J4k3 | A+ |
| 06:10.16 | J4k3 | he's pissing me off something furious |
| 06:10.38 | J4k3 | I've dealt with a lot of annoying people in my life, but he takes the cake.. sad part is he's clueful, he's just a complete and total ass. |
| 06:11.36 | jbevren | heh. not as slow as I'd expected |
| 06:13.52 | jbevren | hehe |
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| 06:17.38 | jbevren | kinda reminds me of running firefox on my 175mhz O2 |
| 06:17.40 | jbevren | :") |
| 06:20.37 | jbevren | sleep time |
| 06:34.57 | J4k3 | ibm at 5ghz... I remember when IBM was cranking out this 6x86 pieces of shit |
| 06:35.10 | J4k3 | that ran red hot with huge heatsinks+fans... |
| 06:35.18 | J4k3 | at like 133 mhz core. |
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| 07:03.17 | J4k3 | didn't you get pwned hard enough earlier? :P |
| 07:27.42 | fishhead | I am not missing pprpp's morning chats |
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| 17:18.48 | prpplague | EvilDevil_: network problems? |
| 17:19.24 | EvilDevil_ | prpplague not really... standby mode while on battery ;) |
| 17:21.03 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:21.31 | jbevren | re prpp |
| 17:22.16 | prpplague | jbevren: hola |
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| 17:43.40 | black_Nightmare | hey fishhead - do you know who made that non-apple ppc system you could buy nowaday? (as far as I recall it was kinda a bit of a cross between mac (ppc processor/etc) and pc (had pc I/O on plate) |
| 17:45.00 | jbevren | motorola, power computing, and one other company I forget made ppc macs |
| 17:45.15 | jbevren | then motorola made a powermac that was faster than one apple could make |
| 17:45.19 | jbevren | so apple shut the whole deal down |
| 17:46.03 | black_Nightmare | nah I mean...one I could had bought right now.....can't remember the name |
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| 17:46.23 | alexissoft | hi |
| 17:52.15 | black_Nightmare | jbevren -- it was sorta a rectangle-shaped case (like a cube pc but shallower height) |
| 17:52.26 | jbevren | NeXT? |
| 17:52.56 | prpplague | alexissoft: greeting |
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| 18:00.02 | black_Nightmare | never mind it.. didn't really matter anyhow |
| 18:00.23 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: most of this channel is mainly for highly embedded devices |
| 18:00.46 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: as well has hacking commercially available devices |
| 18:01.45 | black_Nightmare | run linux on the microwave? :-> |
| 18:01.46 | black_Nightmare | LOL |
| 18:02.03 | jbevren | lol |
| 18:02.04 | jbevren | you know |
| 18:02.09 | jbevren | I hate my micrwoave's front panel |
| 18:02.14 | jbevren | I have considered building a new one -so- many times |
| 18:02.22 | jbevren | and by god it would have networking |
| 18:02.25 | jbevren | and send me an IM when its done |
| 18:02.26 | jbevren | :D |
| 18:02.32 | black_Nightmare | you are going way too far |
| 18:02.33 | black_Nightmare | :p |
| 18:02.42 | jbevren | my washer adn dryer too |
| 18:02.45 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:02.45 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: yes thats what this channel if for |
| 18:02.47 | black_Nightmare | just rig a louder chime if you need |
| 18:02.54 | jbevren | black_Nightmare: no way :) |
| 18:02.59 | jbevren | I hate beepy stuff |
| 18:03.05 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: and actually, i have a toilet i'm currently working on |
| 18:03.35 | black_Nightmare | sister's microwave is really quite loud.. can hear it from upstairs then again she's in a tall small house (3floor+basement) so it figures when the kitchen is on middle floor |
| 18:03.53 | jbevren | Mine is ages-old |
| 18:03.57 | jbevren | the controller isnt too bad actually |
| 18:04.02 | jbevren | it has two-stage cook function etc |
| 18:04.14 | jbevren | I just wnat to add the quick-cook buttons etc |
| 18:04.23 | jbevren | but as long as I'm at it.. heh |
| 18:04.33 | jbevren | thats where the Lnode would be perfect |
| 18:04.39 | black_Nightmare | well if you're in her kitchen when it goes off .. its quite a bit of harsh BEEEEEP BEEEEEP |
| 18:04.45 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:04.47 | prpplague | jbevren: yep |
| 18:04.49 | jbevren | mine's just a single long beep |
| 18:04.53 | jbevren | prpplague: how are those coming? |
| 18:04.57 | black_Nightmare | standard ones (as I've seen at friends too) just go beep beep |
| 18:05.35 | jbevren | mine beeps once and quits |
| 18:05.43 | prpplague | jbevren: all the mainboards have arrived, however the jtag dongles are still MIA |
| 18:05.45 | jbevren | my sister's beeps 3 times, waits a minute, and does it again until you open the door |
| 18:05.50 | jbevren | prpp :( |
| 18:05.58 | prpplague | jbevren: suppose to arrive by end of the week |
| 18:06.13 | jbevren | sweet |
| 18:06.15 | jbevren | I want one :) |
| 18:06.25 | jbevren | maybe two. |
| 18:07.27 | black_Nightmare | well the thing I hated the most was certain mufflers before |
| 18:07.29 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: i have one of these i have to make mods to http://www.arm.com/markets/emerging_applications/armpp/9931.html |
| 18:09.28 | jbevren | the controller or the whole toilet? :) |
| 18:10.46 | black_Nightmare | want know how my previous car at first sounded like? :p |
| 18:11.31 | prpplague | jbevren: the controller |
| 18:11.35 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:11.38 | jbevren | mm warm water toilet |
| 18:11.43 | jbevren | I miss those |
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| 18:27.39 | prpplague | thank the lord |
| 18:27.45 | prpplague | that guy drives me nuts |
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| 18:33.03 | Chocobo | Is the m68k offically supported by the GCC toolchain? |
| 18:34.16 | J4k3 | :D |
| 18:39.31 | jbevren | Linux is available for m68k macs |
| 18:39.39 | jbevren | and other m68k boards :) |
| 18:39.42 | jbevren | so I'd say yeah |
| 18:41.54 | Chocobo | Ok thanks... I need to try to figure out how to build a cross compiler now :/ |
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| 18:47.32 | jbevren | its easy if youre in gentoo |
| 18:47.39 | jbevren | but look up denx's documentation on cross tools |
| 18:53.34 | Chocobo | ok thanks. |
| 19:08.28 | prpplague | Chocobo: buildroot will do you a m68k toolchain very quickly |
| 19:08.49 | Chocobo | buildroot? |
| 19:09.08 | prpplague | http://buildroot.busybox.net |
| 19:14.19 | Chocobo | thanks :) |
| 19:17.06 | jbevren | ah I forgot buildroot builds the TC too |
| 19:17.48 | Chocobo | TC? |
| 19:19.57 | jbevren | toolchain |
| 19:20.09 | Chocobo | ahh cool. |
| 19:31.39 | Chocobo | Is buildroot going to build the whole system for me? |
| 19:40.23 | jbevren | it'll build a basic system if you select busybox |
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| 20:37.24 | black_Nightmare | the more pin package (for chips/processors) types there is..the quite more expensive it would get just to produce low amounts of a board - correct? |
| 20:38.36 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: main issue is the size of the pins and and the spacing |
| 20:38.43 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: bga is always more expensive |
| 20:39.20 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: but this channels isn't really for manufacturing of boards |
| 20:39.54 | black_Nightmare | was just wondering, thanks anyhow |
| 20:40.09 | *** mode/#edev [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 20:42.38 | overseer | anyone with a cheap pc/104 ethernet source (10base ok) |
| 20:43.06 | black_Nightmare | prpplague, out of curiousity what kind of processor do you like? for me..I like the amd geode and freescale coldfire the most so far (but then some arm boards are interesting to me as well) |
| 20:43.31 | prpplague | overseer: qualify cheap, |
| 20:43.36 | black_Nightmare | overseer...hmm..I think I might had seen one....just one moment |
| 20:43.37 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: i'm mainly ARM |
| 20:43.55 | black_Nightmare | nice |
| 20:43.59 | overseer | how about under $30 ? |
| 20:44.03 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: as that is what i'm paid to do |
| 20:44.10 | black_Nightmare | prpplague...umm..do smaller handhelds count in here too? |
| 20:44.29 | jbevren | black_Nightmare: the juicebox counts :) |
| 20:44.33 | overseer | i keep seeing $100 for an ethernet board, and I"m agog |
| 20:44.51 | jbevren | hmm |
| 20:44.51 | overseer | wait - what's the opposite of agog ? |
| 20:44.53 | prpplague | overseer: well its the form factor thats an issue |
| 20:44.56 | jbevren | what's to control in a microwave |
| 20:45.00 | jbevren | light, magneto, fan |
| 20:45.03 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.05 | black_Nightmare | overseer I dunno on price (since you would have to request for it) but here: http://www.versalogic.com/Products/DS.asp?ProductID=60 |
| 20:45.10 | jbevren | simple devices thesea re |
| 20:45.10 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.40 | overseer | "i'll take the cheapest NE2000 controller you have in a pc/104 form factor please" |
| 20:46.40 | fishhead | prpplague, |
| 20:46.41 | prpplague | overseer: http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/ts-eth10-p.php |
| 20:46.44 | fishhead | I must speak to you now |
| 20:46.53 | black_Nightmare | hehe well prpplague...so are you interested in StrongARM as well? if so then if you was wondering for something to just have fun around with then try the Apple Newton for it used these processors (up to 162mhz stock, or there's a 222mhz hack 'replacement' that works too) |
| 20:46.55 | prpplague | overseer: thats about the best price you are gonna see |
| 20:46.55 | fishhead | first off please write this down |
| 20:47.30 | fishhead | prpplague, www.lcdinfo.com they hack almost every lcd under the sun, cell phone lcds, etc and interface them to parallel port, serial port or some interface board |
| 20:47.31 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: i have atleast 20 new devices i have to work on in the next 6 months |
| 20:47.40 | fishhead | prpplague, but the shit is this hack, hang on |
| 20:47.55 | black_Nightmare | ic...thats quite a lot to me |
| 20:47.55 | overseer | prpplague: thanks |
| 20:48.12 | prpplague | overseer: you can make something for around $25 |
| 20:48.19 | overseer | ya -- i'm interested! |
| 20:48.22 | fishhead | prpplague, http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/799377/26 |
| 20:48.28 | black_Nightmare | hm..didn't someone said pc/104 was based off isa or did I misread someone? |
| 20:48.32 | prpplague | overseer: or even cheaper if you don't mind the looks |
| 20:48.35 | fishhead | you can use a video card with a vesa feature connector to drive a laptop lcd |
| 20:48.35 | overseer | it's isa |
| 20:48.45 | black_Nightmare | thought so |
| 20:48.49 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: yes it is isa |
| 20:48.50 | fishhead | you only get 16 or 256 colors but hell yeah for a machine that is mostly headless |
| 20:49.19 | J4k3 | fishhead: my presario R3120US is turning into a headless server |
| 20:49.24 | J4k3 | I give this LCD no more than a month |
| 20:49.24 | black_Nightmare | hmm seeing that embeddedarm.com link reminds me....I always wondered what Crystal's website address was |
| 20:49.28 | J4k3 | before its unusable. |
| 20:49.34 | fishhead | man that sux |
| 20:49.49 | J4k3 | and either I dump $315ish in the LCD, or just turn it into a nice little socket 754 server. |
| 20:49.56 | fishhead | my dad's tv tuner card quit producing sound, could be hauppauge sucks ass |
| 20:49.59 | fishhead | could be the unit |
| 20:50.10 | J4k3 | wonder if linux's soft-raid can RAID1 two USB2 drives? :) |
| 20:50.19 | fishhead | actually it produces audio out on the tuner module itself fine, the usb audio driver is buggy I guess or nf3 is |
| 20:50.23 | J4k3 | yeah, this screen problem |
| 20:50.23 | J4k3 | well |
| 20:50.26 | J4k3 | I suspect I caused it |
| 20:50.29 | overseer | soft-raid can run two sbp2 firewire drives |
| 20:51.17 | J4k3 | when I close it in bed, I've cought it 'eating' some of my quilt... prolly stress cracked the lcd. |
| 20:51.33 | fishhead | yeah :/ |
| 20:51.35 | J4k3 | overseer: no FW in this laptop, and neither FreeBSD or Linux can see the cardbus slot |
| 20:51.40 | fishhead | wtf |
| 20:51.43 | J4k3 | well, it'll see it, as a 16 bit pcmcia slot.. ISA speeds. |
| 20:51.55 | prpplague | overseer: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=200 |
| 20:52.02 | overseer | J4k3: whats' teh cardbus controller? |
| 20:52.07 | prpplague | overseer: if you don't mind doing your own pcb |
| 20:52.21 | overseer | sounds like a perfect first pcb project for me :) |
| 20:52.21 | J4k3 | unsure, lemmie see if windows knows. |
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| 20:54.21 | J4k3 | http://www1.pacific.edu/~khughes/presario-r3120us/ <- the pcmcia/cardbus nightmare on this laptop, about 1/3rd of the way down |
| 20:54.34 | J4k3 | its standard hardware, with a compaq twist. |
| 20:54.58 | overseer | prpplague: is that sparkfun a kit or an assembled & tested board ? |
| 20:55.02 | fishhead | prpplague, did you see the url? |
| 20:55.03 | J4k3 | ahh, some headway has been made |
| 20:55.07 | J4k3 | since the last time I checked this page |
| 20:55.07 | J4k3 | hmm |
| 20:55.08 | jbevren | jake: how's that for battery life? |
| 20:55.14 | jbevren | I want to find something with >2h life |
| 20:55.16 | jbevren | slow's ok |
| 20:55.21 | prpplague | overseer: you can get it assembled or as a kit, iirc |
| 20:55.24 | J4k3 | jbevren: it was 3 hours or so, but its down to about an hour after 18 months of steady abuse. |
| 20:55.33 | overseer | thanks |
| 20:55.38 | prpplague | overseer: just that its not specific for a pc/104, you would have to connect it up |
| 20:55.56 | prpplague | fishhead: yea i browsed to something in what looked to be german |
| 20:55.59 | overseer | i understand i need isa glue logic and probably use their reference implemention for isa |
| 20:56.08 | J4k3 | jbevren: this is a very early socket 754 laptop... .13u desktop cpu (or well, the powernow acts more like cool-n-quiet) |
| 20:56.31 | prpplague | overseer: actually, you should be able to interface pretty close to the isa |
| 20:56.36 | fishhead | prpplague, there are english translations |
| 20:56.37 | J4k3 | powernow being the laptop mode, C&Q being the desktop mode. |
| 20:56.49 | prpplague | fishhead: so what is it you are trying to show me |
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| 20:56.51 | overseer | even better -- i'm looking at teh schematics now |
| 20:56.59 | fishhead | you can take a tft lcd from a dead laptop |
| 20:57.04 | fishhead | and drive it off a pc |
| 20:57.08 | prpplague | oh |
| 20:57.10 | fishhead | using a video card with vesa feature connector |
| 20:57.32 | fishhead | you only get 16 or 256 colors but for just status stuff, hell yeah! |
| 20:58.01 | prpplague | fishhead: why would you want to do that? |
| 20:58.16 | fishhead | for say a mp3 car player etc |
| 20:58.21 | fishhead | something you don't want a crt on |
| 20:58.52 | prpplague | fishhead: sorry, don't get it, since anything i'd make mobile should already have a lcd controler |
| 20:59.20 | fishhead | for a standard pc you are using for some kinda server or embedded project |
| 20:59.22 | overseer | if you're that cheap, then yes -- it's something to be excited over -- or if you just like to re-use stuff that aint broke |
| 20:59.32 | fishhead | yea |
| 20:59.53 | fishhead | shame this hack doesn't work with dual scan lcd's also I would weld one to my ppc board |
| 21:00.48 | fishhead | actually I kept the guts of a 486-100 laptop, the motherboard and lcd, I could take a piece of wood and screw the lcd to one side and the mb to the other |
| 21:00.48 | prpplague | seems kinda of a waste |
| 21:01.01 | fishhead | and use it as a dedicated serial terminal hooked to the ppc board |
| 21:01.07 | J4k3 | heh |
| 21:01.09 | fishhead | prpplague, not if you have a bunch of old lcd's lying around |
| 21:01.20 | J4k3 | sounds extremely pointless to me |
| 21:01.31 | fishhead | ok whatever :P |
| 21:01.37 | J4k3 | then again |
| 21:01.44 | fishhead | prpplague, how hackable is the pixter and how hackable is the videonow |
| 21:01.48 | J4k3 | I have a closet full of dec vt320s |
| 21:01.57 | J4k3 | (or are those 'vt340's? |
| 21:01.57 | fishhead | they are both discounted to $21 walmart |
| 21:02.04 | prpplague | fishhead: pixter color is very hackable |
| 21:02.15 | fishhead | oh I think these are b/w then |
| 21:02.29 | prpplague | fishhead: videonow isn't hackable, but you can make your own dvds now |
| 21:02.32 | J4k3 | err wireless electronic pictureframe. |
| 21:02.54 | prpplague | my pixter mm doesn't arrive till next week |
| 21:03.10 | fishhead | oh one last question for now |
| 21:03.28 | fishhead | is it normal for higher end dmm's to flip around voltage wise till you actually hook them to a source |
| 21:03.46 | fishhead | and for it to say OL (overload) for a 1/10 of a second before it shows the voltage |
| 21:04.06 | J4k3 | depends |
| 21:04.09 | fishhead | I am assuming this is auto rangine |
| 21:04.14 | overseer | prpplague: the adapter diagram appears on pg.9 : http://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/IET/8900a.pdf -- I can drop the boot PROM and the '245 chip? |
| 21:04.31 | J4k3 | what were you checking, and how much static were you/the meter/the tested object holding at the time? |
| 21:04.41 | J4k3 | I've noticed static pisses off my DMM |
| 21:04.41 | fishhead | mb reg |
| 21:04.46 | fishhead | no static |
| 21:05.01 | fishhead | the probes aren't even touching anything it just doesn't center to 0 |
| 21:06.08 | fishhead | I am thinking it just auto ranges down to milivolts when nothing hooked up so when you hook it to +5 it is overloaded for a second before it bumps up the range |
| 21:06.14 | fishhead | it does say MV |
| 21:07.09 | prpplague | overseer: yea but you would need to load a mac address and all the other settings during the driver init |
| 21:07.34 | overseer | "all other" -- irq , base address, etc? |
| 21:09.10 | prpplague | overseer: well there are some others such as duplex modes data rates lots of other small register settings |
| 21:09.44 | overseer | i'm noticing the spark board doesn't have an eeprom |
| 21:10.29 | overseer | if it's expected, i can do it... if i can do it in the linux driver init sequence... maybe it doesn't matter |
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| 21:32.20 | fishhead | *^$(#%#*&#$*#$ |
| 21:32.28 | fishhead | i HAVEN'T even posted my ppc board yet and I just dropped it |
| 21:32.30 | fishhead | SOAB! |
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| 22:40.31 | jbevren | fishhead: Dont drop em! |
| 22:40.32 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:40.37 | jbevren | fishhead: did you get just the one? |
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| 22:47.41 | fishhead | yes |
| 22:47.46 | fishhead | I don't see any damage |
| 22:47.51 | J4k3 | good |
| 22:47.52 | fishhead | once I fix up the room I will try it |
| 22:48.08 | J4k3 | I gotta run over to a customer's place |
| 22:48.29 | J4k3 | and attempt to explain to them why their domain doesn't work right, again, but this time with visual clues. |
| 22:48.43 | J4k3 | I couldn't quite get across 'your registrar is fucking you over' in voice. |
| 22:49.47 | fishhead | this is amazing |
| 22:49.55 | fishhead | I think I can actually use the net to find a song I liked from the80's |
| 22:49.56 | fishhead | wow |
| 22:50.02 | fishhead | one I don't know the name of etc |
| 22:50.06 | fishhead | just style and instruments |
| 22:51.45 | fishhead | this song is like part of my dreams i heard it sometimes since then |
| 22:51.49 | fishhead | hard to explain :/ |
| 22:52.41 | J4k3 | I gotta drive to town |
| 22:52.48 | J4k3 | I'ma put a brick under my accelerator pedal |
| 22:52.58 | J4k3 | playing nfs:most wanted has given me this desire to haul ass everywhere :| |
| 22:53.42 | fishhead | I guess I could try blind downloading a bunch of crap on emule |
| 22:56.47 | fishhead | OMG |
| 22:56.51 | fishhead | I think I can actually do this |
| 22:56.56 | fishhead | man if i can do this I can do anything |
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