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| 00:22.55 | silverpower | aw, crap, the HD is starting to act up again. I'm going to have to shut down and cool off the machine soon. |
| 00:23.06 | fishhead | uhh |
| 00:23.09 | fishhead | put a fan on the hd |
| 00:25.06 | silverpower | (it's a laptop. I removed the keyboard, but it still needs to be cooled down, or I'll start getting serious errors. The HD is already starting to act up.) |
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| 00:41.54 | silverpower | Yeesh. I had to stick it into the freezer to get it to stop overheating. |
| 00:42.32 | silverpower | In the future, I need to move all compile jobs off this box. |
| 00:46.25 | Chocobo | I swear... if I ever get a cross compiler to compile correctly I am going to throw a huge party. |
| 00:46.47 | silverpower | Are we invited? :P |
| 00:46.55 | Chocobo | sure :) |
| 00:55.07 | Chocobo | Ok, maybe I will give up for the evening. |
| 01:29.10 | Chocobo | I always thought the ARM cross compiler was wasy to build |
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| 01:45.34 | agaffney | Chocobo: cross-compilers are very handy...especially when you throw distcc in the mix |
| 01:56.00 | fishhead | silver |
| 01:56.02 | fishhead | lemme guess |
| 01:56.03 | fishhead | hitachi |
| 01:56.09 | agaffney | nope, TP 770 |
| 01:56.24 | fishhead | I have a 6.4 gig that crashes every os you run it on hard on |
| 01:56.25 | fishhead | dos, linux |
| 01:56.27 | fishhead | even with dma off |
| 01:56.30 | agaffney | P233, 160MB RAM, 4GB HD |
| 01:56.33 | fishhead | in any pc you put it in |
| 01:56.48 | agaffney | odd |
| 01:57.00 | fishhead | yeah I still haven't figured out wtf |
| 01:57.10 | fishhead | unless it's deciding to do dma anyways |
| 01:57.14 | fishhead | and pissing all over memory |
| 02:25.26 | fishhead | decide to burn a defiant cpu and motherboard before bed "YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!" |
| 02:37.49 | Chocobo | cross compilers may be handy.... but I can't build one if my life depended on it. |
| 02:38.04 | agaffney | heh |
| 02:38.08 | agaffney | did you try crosstool? |
| 02:38.17 | agaffney | that's supposed to be pretty good for building them |
| 02:38.19 | J4k3 | Chocobo: hah... what I want to do is port openwrt to the walnut. |
| 02:38.30 | J4k3 | but after today's hacking attempts, I'm discouraged |
| 02:38.38 | Chocobo | walnut? |
| 02:38.38 | J4k3 | also having a slowish build box is just painful ;) |
| 02:38.41 | agaffney | seems kinda silly with only one ethernet port |
| 02:38.44 | J4k3 | ppc 405GP-based |
| 02:38.53 | agaffney | J4k3: what were today's hacking attempts? |
| 02:38.56 | J4k3 | openwrt is just generic linux |
| 02:39.23 | J4k3 | getting madwifi-old on openwrt kamikaze... so far all I've gotten is a mess |
| 02:39.28 | J4k3 | but madwifi tends to be a mess. |
| 02:39.42 | agaffney | yeah...madwifi is evil |
| 02:39.43 | Chocobo | Ahhh, I am just trying to build the toolchain for ARM (non-linux - a.k.a. arm-elfz) |
| 02:39.48 | J4k3 | ahh |
| 02:39.50 | agaffney | especially with all that hal nonsense |
| 02:40.02 | J4k3 | well |
| 02:40.02 | agaffney | I haven't built madwifi since ~1 year ago, though |
| 02:40.06 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 02:40.11 | fishhead | I think it's fitting |
| 02:40.14 | J4k3 | madwifi-old is pretty stable for me |
| 02:40.16 | fishhead | to dispatch this blown k6-233 cpu |
| 02:40.21 | fishhead | using a via mvp3 chipset |
| 02:40.26 | fishhead | on a pc chips socket 7 board |
| 02:40.32 | fishhead | now if only I had a deer psu |
| 02:40.33 | fishhead | damn |
| 02:40.35 | J4k3 | -ng (the new stuff) is just... well, openwrt adopted it for some reason, and its quite simply painfully buggy |
| 02:40.35 | agaffney | pc chips...ha! |
| 02:40.55 | J4k3 | heh |
| 02:40.57 | J4k3 | Deer 4 life |
| 02:41.13 | J4k3 | far from it |
| 02:41.48 | fishhead | na I will use this via vpx board |
| 02:41.53 | fishhead | pc chips |
| 02:41.55 | fishhead | with linear regs |
| 02:47.52 | J4k3 | pwned. |
| 02:48.42 | J4k3 | its down to the wire |
| 02:48.45 | J4k3 | 21 hours |
| 02:52.41 | fishhead | no that would be the carpenters or doobie brothers |
| 02:53.20 | fishhead | they really should paste that woman's death photos in every eating disorder clinic |
| 02:53.30 | fishhead | I am all for scaring the shit out of people if it saves their life |
| 02:55.26 | fishhead | yeah this is the shrivled up piece of shit known as you if you keep not eating |
| 02:55.28 | fishhead | any questions |
| 03:01.37 | fishhead | wow |
| 03:01.39 | fishhead | red hot on power up |
| 03:01.54 | fishhead | I am liking this |
| 03:02.36 | fishhead | MAGIC SMOKE!! |
| 03:02.37 | fishhead | MAGIC SMOKE!! |
| 03:05.25 | fishhead | IT'S BURNING AND IT'S ONLY 2.9 VOLTS |
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| 03:13.48 | Chocobo | this is one crazy ass channel. |
| 03:14.06 | J4k3 | haha |
| 03:22.46 | agaffney | no, just fishhead |
| 03:24.18 | fishhead | why is it that halley berry annoys the fuck out of me in every movie she is in |
| 03:24.22 | fishhead | like she's trying to ham it up |
| 03:30.46 | Chocobo | I wish gcc would compile as cleanly and easily as binutils. |
| 03:37.43 | joe_bleau | Looks like someone just ported u-boot to the dht-walnut |
| 03:38.14 | Chocobo | ok, so when building a toolchain with newlib... is it normal to make a link to newlib in the gcc directory? |
| 03:38.21 | joe_bleau | yep. |
| 03:39.22 | Chocobo | Ok... so the steps go #1) Build binutils for the target you desire, #2) make a link to the newlib directory and compile gcc for the desired target? |
| 03:39.43 | joe_bleau | Don't forget to add the binutils directory to your path before building gcc |
| 03:40.30 | Chocobo | Yeah.. did that. crap. |
| 03:41.05 | Chocobo | ../binutils-2.16.1/configure --srcdir=../binutils-2.16.1 --target=arm-elf --prefix=/opt/arm-elf |
| 03:41.32 | Chocobo | export PATH=/opt/arm-elf/bin:$PATH |
| 03:41.44 | Chocobo | ../gcc-4.0.2/configure --srcdir=../gcc-4.0.2 --target=arm-elf --with-newlib --disable-threads --disable-multilib --disable-nls --enable-languages=c |
| 03:41.55 | joe_bleau | I don't pass the --srcdir to binutils |
| 03:42.22 | Chocobo | Ok, I will try again. |
| 03:43.03 | joe_bleau | I usually end up adding --with-gnu-as and --with-gnu-ld to the gcc configure line |
| 03:43.31 | joe_bleau | and you might want to add the --prefix stuff to the gcc configure as well |
| 03:43.41 | joe_bleau | But yeah, that's really close to my build process |
| 03:44.28 | joe_bleau | I tend to refer to the RTEMS docs: http://rtems.org/onlinedocs/releases/rtemsdocs-4.6.4/share/rtems/html/started/started00041.html |
| 03:44.29 | Chocobo | so what does --with-gnu-as do? also, should I remove --srcdir from the gcc build? |
| 03:46.36 | Chocobo | thanks for the link... looks very helpful. |
| 03:46.55 | joe_bleau | What's your host? |
| 03:47.40 | Chocobo | eek I don't know what the exact string is... i686-pc-linux or something like that. |
| 03:49.30 | joe_bleau | Want some binaries? |
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| 03:50.06 | fishhead | joe |
| 03:50.11 | fishhead | what was that link for the webpals |
| 03:50.33 | fishhead | JoseJX these nutballs like the day they got the ppc boards they had already rewritten the bootloader etc |
| 03:50.35 | fishhead | they scare me |
| 03:50.51 | Chocobo | joe_bleau, normally I would say yes... but now I am in it for the challenge :) |
| 03:51.08 | joe_bleau | I think you've just about nailed it. |
| 03:51.15 | JoseJX | haha |
| 03:52.15 | Chocobo | ../gcc-4.0.2/configure --target=arm-elf --with-gnu-as --with-gnu-ld --with-newlib --disable-threads --disable-multilib --disable-nls --enable-languages=c --prefix=/opt/arm-elf |
| 03:52.24 | Chocobo | so that looks pretty good? |
| 03:52.47 | agaffney | Chocobo: why not just use crosstool? or crossdev on gentoo? |
| 03:52.51 | joe_bleau | yep. I'm assuming you've already made the link to the newlib directory, right? |
| 03:53.24 | Chocobo | crosstool has never worked correctly for me. I am not sure how to make it target a standalone (not linux based) |
| 03:53.34 | Chocobo | joe_bleau, yep. |
| 03:53.46 | Chocobo | I made the link in the gcc-4.0.2 directory. |
| 03:53.54 | joe_bleau | Sounds good. |
| 03:53.55 | Chocobo | Not in the build directory. |
| 03:54.01 | Chocobo | Ok, here we go. |
| 03:55.02 | Chocobo | I should know in about 10 or 15 minutes :) |
| 03:55.27 | Chocobo | Oh yeah... I am gcc-core ... that shouldnt really matter though right? I saw no reason to download the whole gcc package. |
| 03:57.04 | fishhead | damit it's teasing me with molecules |
| 03:57.08 | fishhead | but no magic smoke |
| 03:57.11 | fishhead | just whiffs |
| 03:58.46 | Chocobo | I wonder if I could use threads on the arm processor... that would be sort of neat. |
| 04:02.51 | agaffney | that doesn't cost $100+ :P |
| 04:05.04 | fishhead | uhh what about a bt848/878 |
| 04:05.08 | fishhead | $10 |
| 04:05.10 | fishhead | :P |
| 04:05.21 | fishhead | I just don't know if it speaks backasswards endian |
| 04:06.45 | fishhead | wonder if a pvr150 would work |
| 04:06.49 | fishhead | you can get those around $50 now |
| 04:07.31 | JoseJX | fishhead: TV Out, not TV In |
| 04:07.32 | JoseJX | :p |
| 04:07.37 | fishhead | oh |
| 04:07.46 | JoseJX | fishhead: Only the PVR350 has tv out |
| 04:07.53 | fishhead | yeah I am sure you can find plenty if you don't care about 3d |
| 04:08.14 | Chocobo | Still building... this is a good sign. |
| 04:08.16 | Chocobo | :) |
| 04:08.41 | JoseJX | fishhead: Well, the problem is that there's no OF or BIOS on the walnut, so you need a card that doesn't need one of those to startup |
| 04:09.40 | fishhead | well walnut was NEVER mean't to be a desktop with video :) |
| 04:09.49 | fishhead | it's a bury and forget embedded oard |
| 04:10.12 | JoseJX | Yeah, that's what I'm doing with it, but agaffney has different plans I guess :) |
| 04:10.18 | Chocobo | joe_bleau, it looks like the --with-gnu-as and --with-gnu-ld made the difference. I wonder why I needed it? |
| 04:11.12 | joe_bleau | Did it finish building? |
| 04:11.25 | Chocobo | it made it through gcc it is going newlib now. |
| 04:11.26 | fishhead | agaffney, they make mini-itx |
| 04:11.35 | Chocobo | yep, all done. |
| 04:11.38 | agaffney | JoseJX: I'm not quite sure *what* my plans are yet |
| 04:11.49 | Chocobo | just finished!!! dude! I think I have a toolchain now! |
| 04:12.10 | agaffney | I'd like to do a networked MP3 player that plugs into my stereo and hooks to the TV to give a simple display for song info |
| 04:12.11 | fishhead | agaffney, I admire your effort you are like me |
| 04:12.16 | fishhead | oh dude |
| 04:12.21 | fishhead | you can use a character lcd for that |
| 04:12.28 | fishhead | here |
| 04:12.31 | fishhead | www.lcdinfo.com |
| 04:12.34 | agaffney | yeah, but I'd like to go out to the TV if possible |
| 04:12.39 | fishhead | or even a small grapical lcd |
| 04:12.44 | agaffney | and I'd ned an IR receiver somewhere too |
| 04:12.45 | fishhead | oh I see |
| 04:12.49 | J4k3 | LED array! |
| 04:12.50 | Chocobo | Ok, so what else do i need... probably gdb, and maybe a jtag driver? |
| 04:13.18 | joe_bleau | JTAG might be a problem under Linux |
| 04:13.27 | Chocobo | joe_bleau, why is that? |
| 04:13.33 | joe_bleau | I don't know of any open-source support for the 405 |
| 04:13.43 | joe_bleau | I understand the debugging scan chain is under NDA |
| 04:13.57 | Chocobo | what is the 405? |
| 04:13.58 | joe_bleau | I'd love to be proven incorrect on this one. |
| 04:14.11 | joe_bleau | Oops. I'm confused. Ignore me. |
| 04:14.19 | joe_bleau | Got ppc hacking on the brain tonight. |
| 04:14.33 | fishhead | agaffney, I still think mini-itx is better app for that |
| 04:14.35 | joe_bleau | Sorry about that. |
| 04:14.53 | J4k3 | any problem using the walnut with a 6.4GB HD? |
| 04:14.54 | agaffney | fishhead: I want to play with what I've got, though :) |
| 04:14.58 | Chocobo | So jtag is do-able? I know it is for the TI MSP430 |
| 04:15.01 | fishhead | go for it :) |
| 04:15.06 | fishhead | and more power to you if you can do it |
| 04:15.19 | joe_bleau | Yeah, jtag on arm should be ok. |
| 04:15.32 | Chocobo | just need to search google and find it. |
| 04:15.32 | Chocobo | :) |
| 04:15.38 | joe_bleau | yep. |
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| 04:15.59 | *** mode/#edev [+o GPSFan_] by ChanServ |
| 04:16.16 | fishhead | why the hell does annoying hally berry have to kill the british evil hot chick in the latest james bond movie |
| 04:16.25 | fishhead | I wanted to "interrogate" her for info |
| 04:16.31 | fishhead | using various torture methods |
| 04:16.59 | J4k3 | dude |
| 04:17.13 | J4k3 | crackpipe DOWN |
| 04:17.16 | fishhead | GPSFan_, can you tell JoseJX a little about the webpal and juicebox if you get a moment |
| 04:17.19 | agaffney | heh |
| 04:17.28 | fishhead | also agaffney |
| 04:17.42 | J4k3 | ... get your hand |
| 04:17.45 | J4k3 | of your peepee |
| 04:19.01 | Chocobo | Holy crap! a simple hello world app with my toolchain is 45K after stripping! |
| 04:19.10 | fishhead | WTF |
| 04:19.16 | fishhead | even basic isn't that bad |
| 04:19.41 | Chocobo | Geeez, I wonder if I did something wrong. |
| 04:19.52 | GPSFan_ | webpal: http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowBoard&Board=wpalgen&Idle=&Sort=&Order=&Session= |
| 04:19.55 | joe_bleau | Examine map file |
| 04:20.02 | GPSFan_ | juicebox: http://elinux.org/wiki/JuiceBox |
| 04:20.11 | joe_bleau | printf() may have hauled in the floating point stuff |
| 04:20.14 | *** part/#edev Init5 (n=DHA@3E6B7DA7.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 04:20.18 | JoseJX | GPSFan_: Nah, don't worry about it, I can search google myself. Thanks though. |
| 04:21.27 | GPSFan_ | those 2 links are the best source of general info, webpals are sort of out of favor atm, but are good learning boxen. |
| 04:21.45 | Chocobo | I removed the printf.... same size. |
| 04:22.05 | JoseJX | Thanks GPSFan_ |
| 04:22.46 | GPSFan_ | I've done a fair bit with the webpal, but not the juicebox. |
| 04:23.17 | fishhead | you guys defintely need to check www.lcdinfo.com when you have time |
| 04:23.19 | fishhead | the forums |
| 04:23.29 | fishhead | these psychos hack every lcd under the sun :P |
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| 04:25.55 | silverpower | ...if I can't recover my data, somebody is going to DIE today. :grumble: |
| 04:26.00 | Chocobo | Before String (with printf): -rwxr-xr-x 1 swinchen users 263K 2006-02-11 23:25 test |
| 04:26.01 | Chocobo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.40 | Chocobo | after strip (with printf): -rwxr-xr-x 1 swinchen users 71K 2006-02-11 23:26 test |
| 04:26.49 | Chocobo | those are crazy large files. |
| 04:26.59 | agaffney | silverpower: meant to ask you before...what were your plans for the carputer? what was it actually gonna do? |
| 04:26.59 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: I've had a bit of success getting the dht to run kernel 2.4.31, but I horribly broke the ethernet. might poke at it a little more tomorrow. |
| 04:27.21 | agaffney | silverpower: I'm trying to get ideas for what to actually do with mine |
| 04:27.34 | silverpower | agaffney: mp3s, mostly. If I could hack together a working GPS/nav system, that too. :) |
| 04:27.38 | joe_bleau | GPSFan_/GPSFan: did you notice that u-boot port in the last hour? |
| 04:27.55 | joe_bleau | Looks like there's at least a few other people hacking on the ppc stuff |
| 04:28.44 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: yeah, I saw it and dl'd the patch, I guess we must take it on faith that it works before flashing. haven't gotten a chance to flash the bin yet.. |
| 04:29.05 | silverpower | agaffney: but the carputer is on hold right now - the loan check is going for an HDD replacement, your E250, another computer, stuff like that. No car for me for a while. :( |
| 04:29.07 | joe_bleau | He picked the 0xfffc sector...not sure why? |
| 04:29.41 | agaffney | silverpower: ah, you don't even *have* a car...that's makes sense then :) |
| 04:29.49 | GPSFan_ | uboot for 405 boards was crafted to take "only" 256K vs the normal uboot load of 512K |
| 04:29.54 | Chocobo | Ok, well I am out for the night. |
| 04:30.01 | Chocobo | Thanks for the help joe_bleau. |
| 04:30.20 | joe_bleau | Have fun with arm-elf-gcc! |
| 04:30.42 | silverpower | agaffney: the original plan was to get a car. Possibly buy back my Z, or something. Now it's unlikely - I'm going to save up and buy a running RX7 with my summer job money. :) |
| 04:30.43 | Chocobo | lol. thanks. I hope I can cut the filesize down :) |
| 04:30.49 | joe_bleau | map file. |
| 04:31.49 | Chocobo | How do I do that? |
| 04:32.13 | joe_bleau | Something like "-Xlinker -Map -Xlinker hello_world.map", maybe? |
| 04:32.25 | joe_bleau | (In your link command) |
| 04:32.46 | joe_bleau | You'll want to double check that, it's leftover from a juicebox app |
| 04:32.52 | Chocobo | the linker has this: -M, --print-map Print map file on standard output |
| 04:33.35 | joe_bleau | There you go. |
| 04:34.41 | Chocobo | Wow. I guess I need to read up on this... I have never looked at a map file before. |
| 04:37.28 | Chocobo | Well have a goodnight :) See you tomorrow. |
| 04:41.07 | fishhead | oh yeah they nuked one of the collapsing bridges in pa |
| 04:41.15 | fishhead | like half our bridges are titanic class |
| 04:41.18 | fishhead | we are in deep shit |
| 04:41.25 | fishhead | one already collapsed thank god it missed everyone |
| 04:41.32 | fishhead | and they just put it out of it's misery |
| 04:41.50 | fishhead | wow it's been 5 yrs since we took out 3 rivers stadium |
| 04:42.06 | fishhead | and got a new one that the voters said no too, and the state said they are taking the money to do it anyways |
| 04:42.09 | fishhead | so I never been to the new one |
| 04:42.10 | fishhead | and never will |
| 04:51.37 | J4k3 | uhm |
| 04:51.59 | J4k3 | I can't find any images to boot |
| 04:52.06 | J4k3 | for my walnut |
| 04:52.44 | joe_bleau | kernel: ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/linux/images/amcc/walnut/uImage |
| 04:52.56 | J4k3 | is there a userland yet? |
| 04:53.01 | joe_bleau | userland: ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/LinuxPPC/usr/src/SELF/images/ppc_4xx/ramdisk_image.gz |
| 04:53.04 | J4k3 | or should I build my on |
| 04:53.05 | J4k3 | awesome |
| 04:53.09 | J4k3 | :) |
| 04:53.17 | joe_bleau | A more customized kernel on the Wiki: http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=uImage |
| 05:12.59 | silverpower | Let this be a warning to you all. Get a good backup strategy before the shit hits the fan...and it WILL happen. |
| 05:17.04 | silverpower | What's blocking our new toy from having a 2.6 kernel of some sort, anyway? |
| 05:20.46 | *** part/#edev sorphin (n=dans@mewp.captainrock.com) |
| 05:22.26 | joe_bleau | silverpower: Nothing? |
| 05:22.27 | joe_bleau | # uname -a |
| 05:22.27 | joe_bleau | Linux pecker 2.6.15 #1 Sun Jan 15 23:47:45 MET 2006 ppc unknown |
| 05:23.56 | J4k3 | hmm |
| 05:24.03 | silverpower | ... :facepalm: |
| 05:24.05 | J4k3 | it gives me a "bad magic number" when I boot |
| 05:24.08 | J4k3 | :| |
| 05:25.24 | fishhead | burning stupid canuck mints over this k6-233 cpu core |
| 05:25.52 | fishhead | one of the caps is red hot |
| 05:26.30 | silverpower | fishhead: do you care? |
| 05:26.44 | fishhead | ? |
| 05:27.02 | silverpower | Wasn't it dead? |
| 05:27.11 | fishhead | yes |
| 05:27.19 | fishhead | but now it just burn till it draws vcc no more |
| 05:27.24 | fishhead | just/must |
| 05:27.36 | fishhead | not till then will my rage be satisified |
| 05:27.41 | silverpower | fishhead: bwahahahaha! |
| 05:27.50 | fishhead | :P |
| 05:28.07 | silverpower | I wonder what would be a fitting end for this POS IBM Travelstar? |
| 05:28.18 | fishhead | I am shocked the boards mosfet and red hot cap hasn't popped yet |
| 05:28.27 | fishhead | I tasted cap juice so I will probably die of cancer |
| 05:28.37 | silverpower | fishhead: trying to kill the board as well? |
| 05:28.44 | fishhead | board is pc chips |
| 05:28.46 | fishhead | via vpx |
| 05:28.51 | fishhead | in flakey shape |
| 05:28.57 | fishhead | more like mercy kill |
| 05:29.26 | Pablo | how did it taste fishhead? |
| 05:29.31 | silverpower | I once had a board nuke my K6-2/450. (at the time, it was my best proc.) |
| 05:29.41 | fishhead | pablo bitter as hell |
| 05:29.49 | Pablo | did you leik it? |
| 05:29.57 | fishhead | no burned my finger and licked it |
| 05:30.04 | Pablo | I think you should try more |
| 05:30.09 | Pablo | might be an aquired taste |
| 05:30.16 | silverpower | Me and my buddy smashed that thing to flinders. Nobody was going to dare try to use it. :D |
| 05:30.38 | fishhead | last year for 4th july |
| 05:30.41 | fishhead | I lit one up |
| 05:30.45 | J4k3 | I use shotguns on sketchy hardware |
| 05:30.45 | fishhead | with 2 bottles of alcohol |
| 05:31.05 | silverpower | haha. |
| 05:31.23 | silverpower | anybody here engage in the time-honored practice of dumpster-diving gear? |
| 05:31.32 | fishhead | yes |
| 05:31.34 | Pablo | haha |
| 05:31.41 | fishhead | http://flyback.databurn.net |
| 05:31.59 | fishhead | wonder if I can get the vcc to exceed 3.5 volts |
| 05:32.05 | silverpower | (or at least trolling the neighborhood for random crap at night...) |
| 05:33.55 | fishhead | that got old after a while |
| 05:34.05 | fishhead | i'd like to try low grade explosives |
| 05:34.27 | silverpower | firecrackers and shit? |
| 05:34.31 | fishhead | yeah |
| 05:34.41 | silverpower | One thing good about TN - no fireworks bans. EVER. |
| 05:34.42 | fishhead | man I even hit the core with -100 liquid air can |
| 05:34.46 | fishhead | it still won't go |
| 05:35.43 | J4k3 | grr, this 'bad magic number' crap sucks :( |
| 05:35.45 | silverpower | Back home, in the summer, it's a pain to get fireworks - but then, brush fires are serious shit. |
| 05:36.24 | joe_bleau | J4k3: how are you booting? What's your environment setup? |
| 05:37.23 | J4k3 | debian i386, booting from tftp server |
| 05:37.48 | joe_bleau | OK, so far so good |
| 05:38.09 | J4k3 | tried both uImage files... downloaded first via mozilla, retried via wget |
| 05:38.11 | joe_bleau | "tftpboot 400000 kernel_file_name" ? |
| 05:38.21 | joe_bleau | them "bootm 400000"? |
| 05:38.25 | Pablo | haha |
| 05:38.43 | J4k3 | http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-WalnutBootViaTftp |
| 05:38.50 | J4k3 | I'm using those instructions |
| 05:39.17 | joe_bleau | Drop the userland and just boot the kernel first |
| 05:39.26 | J4k3 | ok cool |
| 05:39.27 | Pablo | YAY!!! |
| 05:39.39 | Pablo | I am glad I got ups's |
| 05:39.54 | Pablo | no computer is unprotected at my house |
| 05:40.05 | J4k3 | ahha, kernel booted |
| 05:40.18 | J4k3 | I guess that means |
| 05:40.25 | J4k3 | its time to pop in the compact flash |
| 05:40.30 | J4k3 | and tell it to boot from IDE : |
| 05:40.31 | J4k3 | :) |
| 05:40.44 | joe_bleau | Those instructions are for GPSFan's kernel, which I don't believe is on the Wiki. |
| 05:40.55 | joe_bleau | Sounds like you've got it figured out now. |
| 05:41.15 | J4k3 | awesome :) much thanks |
| 05:45.32 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 05:45.35 | fishhead | wtf did I tell you |
| 05:45.49 | fishhead | that's for doubting that idling in this channel was worth your time |
| 05:48.24 | J4k3 | haha |
| 05:48.32 | silverpower | fishhead: my, aren't we violent. |
| 05:48.33 | J4k3 | you're still a freak, tho |
| 05:48.38 | fishhead | YES i KNOW |
| 05:48.42 | fishhead | AND SO AM I! |
| 05:48.43 | fishhead | AND ME TOO! |
| 05:50.19 | fishhead | seriously |
| 05:50.26 | fishhead | I do think the ppc's will scale nicely in several apps |
| 06:04.46 | J4k3 | I thought the IDE was supported? |
| 06:11.33 | agaffney | not in the "vanilla" kernel, afaik |
| 06:15.10 | J4k3 | ahh |
| 06:15.23 | J4k3 | must... find...good...kernel... ;) |
| 06:16.36 | J4k3 | well, maybe I should just build my own. |
| 06:19.22 | agaffney | from what I heard, there is working support |
| 06:22.05 | silverpower | rsync is a beautiful thing. I never knew I could fall in love with a Unix network tool. :D |
| 06:23.21 | agaffney | heh |
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| 13:53.57 | Chocobo | Ok, my arm-elf cross compiler is outputing HUGE file sizes... here is a pastebin with a bunch of info. If someone doesnt mind looking it would be greatly appreciated! http://pastebin.com/551122 |
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| 14:59.48 | inv_ | -nostartfiles ? |
| 15:00.05 | inv_ | maybe it adds tabdard start sequence ? |
| 15:00.17 | Chocobo | ? |
| 15:00.17 | inv_ | bleah standard sta... |
| 15:01.48 | Chocobo | I don't think I understand |
| 15:02.04 | inv_ | do you compile for some microcontroler ? |
| 15:03.05 | Chocobo | you mean -mcu= |
| 15:03.07 | Chocobo | ? |
| 15:03.41 | inv_ | yes |
| 15:04.45 | Chocobo | oops... -mcpu. Yeah, I tried using -mcpu=arm7 and -mcpu=arm9 neither worked |
| 15:04.58 | Chocobo | They worked, they didnt reduce the filesize though |
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| 16:44.21 | joe_bleau | I see lots of floating point, malloc, and file system code in the map file. Looks like ~40k of code. |
| 16:45.08 | agaffney | joe_bleau: don't forget to update the wiki page to mention downloading the bootloader update via tftp instead of kermit |
| 16:45.30 | agaffney | I was going to do it, but I'm not familiar with wiki formatting |
| 16:45.35 | joe_bleau | Oh, yeah, ok. |
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| 17:49.20 | Chocobo | help! |
| 17:49.22 | Chocobo | :) |
| 17:49.38 | agaffney | with? |
| 17:49.50 | Chocobo | why is my code so huge? |
| 17:49.57 | agaffney | no idea |
| 17:50.25 | Chocobo | Have you ever done any ARM stuff before? I am wondering if that is normal. |
| 17:50.56 | agaffney | nope, never messed with arm |
| 17:51.01 | Chocobo | Ahh |
| 17:52.31 | Chocobo | maybe it is just normal. I don't know. |
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| 17:53.23 | agaffney | time for a bootloader upgrade |
| 17:56.23 | agaffney | bah, I never reinstalled tftp-hpa on my new system |
| 17:56.38 | Chocobo | what is a first good embedded project? I have a masters in computer engineering, so I am not a total idiot... maybe 50 percent idiot :) |
| 17:57.31 | agaffney | I'm 21 with no degree and no formal education past high school, but I'm holding my own with this walnut board :P |
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| 17:59.56 | Chocobo | where do I get one of those? |
| 18:00.00 | agaffney | once again, I neglected to plug in a network cable before trying to pull something via tftp :P |
| 18:00.11 | agaffney | Chocobo: you can't...the place that was selling them is all sold out |
| 18:09.09 | agaffney | => version |
| 18:09.09 | agaffney | PPCBoot 1.1.6 (Feb 5 2006 - 21:38:51) |
| 18:09.11 | agaffney | hurray! |
| 18:10.49 | Chocobo | what is the place that was selling them? |
| 18:11.37 | agaffney | bgmicro.com |
| 18:15.46 | J4k3 | agaffney: tftp method? :) |
| 18:15.50 | joe_bleau | Tanner had two left as of last Wednesday, but you'll have to go there (Dallas area) in person. |
| 18:16.31 | J4k3 | heh, ironic all the surplus dealers in the dallas/ft worth area |
| 18:16.51 | J4k3 | I always knew dfw was 'surplus'... god knows nobody needs dallas or ft worth :) |
| 18:17.08 | joe_bleau | Chocobo: did you try iprintf()? I saw a *lot* of FP code in your map file. |
| 18:17.34 | agaffney | J4k3: yep |
| 18:18.04 | agaffney | J4k3: it went quite smoothly once I remembered to plug in an ethernet cable :P |
| 18:18.17 | J4k3 | hahaha |
| 18:18.27 | agaffney | I did the same thing at work on friday when I first got the boards |
| 18:18.42 | agaffney | I tried to grab a boot image via tftp before I plugged in the cable :) |
| 18:20.43 | agaffney | now I just have to figure out what I actually want to do with this board |
| 18:20.56 | agaffney | someone told me that those IDE->CF adapters only work on x86 |
| 18:21.02 | agaffney | is that true? |
| 18:21.06 | J4k3 | hahahahahaha |
| 18:21.15 | J4k3 | well, I booted mine off CF last night |
| 18:21.18 | agaffney | or will they work fine in this board (once the IDE is fully supported)? |
| 18:21.33 | J4k3 | well, the IDE is supported |
| 18:21.39 | J4k3 | but not in the 'basic' kernels |
| 18:21.44 | agaffney | right, just not in "vanilla" kernels |
| 18:21.47 | J4k3 | looks like we get to build our own or something |
| 18:21.56 | agaffney | I'm no stranger to that |
| 18:22.07 | J4k3 | yep... cross compile fun |
| 18:22.19 | agaffney | no stranger to that either |
| 18:22.40 | agaffney | did you use one of the "vertical" IDE->CF adapters or one that requires a cable? |
| 18:22.50 | J4k3 | unluckily all my cross-compile experience is with openwrt, which does all the grunt work for ya |
| 18:23.03 | J4k3 | vertical style |
| 18:23.16 | J4k3 | I suggest |
| 18:23.22 | J4k3 | buying one with an integrated 3.3v regulator |
| 18:23.37 | J4k3 | feeding 5v into CF isn't a happy thing... it'll "work" but it seems to reduce life. |
| 18:23.42 | agaffney | and how might I know if it has that? |
| 18:23.54 | agaffney | the ebay auctions usually aren't too...verbose |
| 18:24.01 | J4k3 | the ones without a regulator have basically no components onboard |
| 18:24.06 | J4k3 | you'll be able to see them in the product pictures |
| 18:24.14 | J4k3 | newegg.com carries good ones for like $18 shipped :P |
| 18:24.32 | J4k3 | wisp-router, etc, resell the routerboard-brand CF adapters that don't have the regulators |
| 18:24.51 | agaffney | http://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-Compact-Flash-Slot-CF-to-IDE-adapter_W0QQitemZ5865185743QQcategoryZ41994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 18:25.03 | agaffney | how do the dual-slot ones work? |
| 18:25.35 | sunrunner20 | u |
| 18:25.37 | sunrunner20 | *um |
| 18:25.49 | sunrunner20 | they take up both channels of the PATA |
| 18:25.55 | agaffney | ah |
| 18:26.00 | agaffney | that makes sense |
| 18:26.03 | sunrunner20 | you short a pin on the cf card for it to be master or slave |
| 18:26.11 | J4k3 | makes sense |
| 18:26.30 | sunrunner20 | i have a schematic for a cf->ide adapter if you want one |
| 18:27.46 | sunrunner20 | thus you can make your own adapter dirt cheap |
| 18:28.32 | agaffney | I'm no good with that sort of stuff |
| 18:28.40 | sunrunner20 | heh |
| 18:31.54 | agaffney | I guess I need to get an adapter for the standard drive power thing to the floppy adapter |
| 18:32.41 | catastrop | sunrunner20: do you have the link for the cf->ide adapter handy? |
| 18:33.51 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 18:34.06 | agaffney | I guess http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822998003 is what I want |
| 18:34.36 | sunrunner20 | http://sunrunner20.brainspore.net/files/resourcesmodule/@random42b891e9445d5/1124042687_CFtoIDE2.pdf |
| 18:35.03 | sunrunner20 | thats one of them |
| 18:35.05 | sunrunner20 | i've got another |
| 18:35.06 | sunrunner20 | but |
| 18:35.12 | sunrunner20 | its not uploaded to my site atm |
| 18:36.57 | catastrop | thanks.. |
| 18:39.09 | sunrunner20 | http://sunrunner20.brainspore.net/files/resourcesmodule/@random42b891e9445d5/1139769532_Sandisk_Cf_ide.pdf |
| 18:39.11 | sunrunner20 | that ones better |
| 18:39.15 | sunrunner20 | bothered to upload it |
| 18:43.44 | agaffney | I hate ebay auctions that have a tiny item for $1 and $12 shipping costs |
| 18:43.55 | agaffney | and won't combine items if the have multiples |
| 18:44.00 | agaffney | http://cgi.ebay.com/3-x-IDE-to-Compact-Flash-CF-FEMALE-Adapter-P11_W0QQitemZ5866020532QQcategoryZ41994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 19:00.56 | Chocobo | joe_bleau, even if I take out all printing, and remove all the headers it still compiles to 45K :/ |
| 19:04.21 | Chocobo | using iprintf it cuts it from 71K down to 55K |
| 19:04.53 | Chocobo | I think what I really need is someone else with an arm cross compiler to compile the same test and see what they get. If it is the same I won't freak out. |
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| 19:10.32 | joe_bleau | Yep, I did. |
| 19:12.10 | joe_bleau | with iprintf(): RCA RM4100 MSNTV 2 |
| 19:12.28 | joe_bleau | Let's try that again...iprintf(): text data bss dec hex filename |
| 19:12.28 | joe_bleau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.45 | joe_bleau | vs. printf(): text data bss dec hex filename |
| 19:12.45 | joe_bleau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.18 | joe_bleau | (This is on 3.2.3, newlib version unknown) |
| 19:20.04 | agaffney | hurray for 'saveenv' actually working! |
| 19:20.34 | agaffney | now I don't have to set a MAC every time |
| 19:23.08 | agaffney | so what plans do people have for their walnut boards? |
| 19:25.19 | agaffney | also, will any old matrox card work without bios initialization? |
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| 19:30.34 | agaffney | I assume http://cgi.ebay.com/MATROX-MILLENNIUM-II-8MB-64BIT-PCI-VIDEO-GRAPHICS-CARD_W0QQitemZ8763769580QQcategoryZ40160QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem would work fine |
| 19:47.45 | joe_bleau | agaffnet: I did get an onscreen dmesg using jbevren's kernel and a Matrox card. |
| 19:47.53 | joe_bleau | Not sure what model, and I didn't try running X |
| 19:48.19 | joe_bleau | would a snip from the captured dmesg help you ID the card? |
| 19:53.01 | agaffney | couldn't hurt |
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| 20:00.45 | agaffney | what would it take to hook up an external 2-color LCD display of some sort to this board? |
| 20:00.50 | agaffney | I've never done anything like that |
| 20:00.53 | agaffney | so I really have no idea |
| 20:02.53 | sunrunner20 | how big? |
| 20:03.27 | agaffney | I'd want something relatively small |
| 20:03.31 | agaffney | maybe 5"-10" |
| 20:04.03 | agaffney | it'd be a bonus if it was something that could be driven via usb |
| 20:05.27 | sunrunner20 | www.crystalfontz.com |
| 20:05.28 | Chocobo | joe_bleau, so your file was still quite large |
| 20:10.54 | agaffney | sunrunner20: interesting...thanks |
| 20:11.22 | sunrunner20 | np |
| 20:11.33 | sunrunner20 | those are relativly small but its a start |
| 20:12.11 | agaffney | what is J2 for on these walnut boards? |
| 20:12.34 | agaffney | looks like a placeholder for another external connector |
| 20:13.54 | agaffney | it's right "below" the serial port if you're looking at the board with the memory slot at the "top" |
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| 20:45.35 | agaffney | joe_bleau: got that dmesg snippet? |
| 20:56.17 | agaffney | although, I doubt it has enough power to do on-the-fly mpeg encoding |
| 20:58.51 | agaffney | who's dumb idea was it to make video cards that require initialization by a BIOS? and wtf do most cards *still* require it? |
| 20:59.45 | sunrunner20 | agaffney: multipul video cards require it |
| 20:59.54 | agaffney | 'pciinfo' shows a Mass storage controller. is that the IDE controller? |
| 21:00.03 | sunrunner20 | prob |
| 21:00.27 | agaffney | sunrunner20: matrox cards obviously work fine without initialization...why can't other cards? |
| 21:01.21 | sunrunner20 | nfc |
| 21:03.27 | agaffney | good answer :) |
| 21:03.39 | sunrunner20 | oh wait |
| 21:03.40 | sunrunner20 | better one |
| 21:03.44 | sunrunner20 | lazy enginneres |
| 21:04.12 | agaffney | unfortunately, you're probably right |
| 21:04.32 | agaffney | isn't there any way to "emulate" bios initialization in software? |
| 21:05.45 | sunrunner20 | probally w/ linux |
| 21:05.47 | sunrunner20 | dunnow how though |
| 21:07.01 | agaffney | me neither :P |
| 21:08.45 | agaffney | oh, I see |
| 21:09.03 | agaffney | the card doesn't require initialization by a x86 bios |
| 21:09.14 | agaffney | the card has its own bios with a chunk of code that gets executed at poweron |
| 21:09.18 | agaffney | which initializes the card |
| 21:09.29 | agaffney | and that code is going to be for x86 in most cases |
| 21:09.42 | joe_bleau | matroxfb: Matrox Millennium II (PCI) detected |
| 21:09.42 | joe_bleau | matroxfb: 640x480x8bpp (virtual: 640x13081) |
| 21:09.42 | joe_bleau | matroxfb: framebuffer at 0xBF000000, mapped to 0xc3012000, size 8388608 |
| 21:09.42 | joe_bleau | Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30 |
| 21:09.42 | joe_bleau | fb0: MATROX VGA frame buffer device |
| 21:09.43 | joe_bleau | matroxfb: Matrox Millennium II (PCI) detected |
| 21:09.45 | joe_bleau | matroxfb: 640x480x8bpp (virtual: 640x13081) |
| 21:09.47 | joe_bleau | matroxfb: framebuffer at 0xBF000000, mapped to 0xc3012000, size 8388608 |
| 21:09.49 | joe_bleau | Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30 |
| 21:09.51 | joe_bleau | fb0: MATROX VGA frame buffer device |
| 21:10.10 | agaffney | ok, so it's a Millennium II |
| 21:11.09 | agaffney | http://cgi.ebay.com/MATROX-MILLENNIUM-II-8MB-64BIT-PCI-VIDEO-GRAPHICS-CARD_W0QQitemZ8763769580QQcategoryZ40160QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <-- that |
| 21:11.32 | agaffney | http://jammor.hypermart.net/PARTS/MATROX002.jpg |
| 21:11.56 | agaffney | $18 w/ shipping isn't bad at all |
| 21:12.39 | agaffney | I might just grab 2...1 for each board |
| 21:19.11 | agaffney | that's interesting...alpha machines include a x86 emulator in their firmware for executing the video bios instructions |
| 21:23.02 | agaffney | I wonder if that's something that could feasibly be included in ppcboot |
| 21:23.50 | sunrunner20 | it would be easer to dump the card's bios figure out what it says to do and hard code it |
| 21:25.16 | agaffney | yeah, but that would have to be done on a per-card basis |
| 21:25.44 | agaffney | and it looks like milo (OSS alpha bootloader, I believe) has an implementation |
| 21:28.09 | JoseJX | agaffney: The PegII has an x86 emulator to address this issue :p |
| 21:29.08 | agaffney | JoseJX: as do apparently alpha machines |
| 21:29.42 | JoseJX | agaffney: You probably could get something working for ppc since they do something similar with OF and you're working on PPC anyway. |
| 21:29.59 | sunrunner20 | well if you have the c code you can implement it |
| 21:30.12 | sunrunner20 | just have to know c pretty well to put it into ppc boot |
| 21:33.59 | fishhead | CANUCKS |
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| 21:34.17 | fishhead | sorry it was the matrox reference |
| 21:34.19 | fishhead | set me off |
| 21:34.20 | fishhead | bbl :P |
| 21:34.24 | agaffney | ... |
| 21:34.29 | fishhead | matrox = canucks |
| 21:35.06 | agaffney | heh |
| 21:35.19 | agaffney | somehow, I don't think he'd be opposed |
| 21:35.39 | fishhead | and somehow I think j4k3 will start having "problems" if he keeps trying to start shit with me |
| 21:36.08 | J4k3 | keep the threats for somebody who hasn't heard them before, fishhead |
| 21:36.30 | J4k3 | the only problem I have is having pages full of CANUCK on my screen |
| 21:36.44 | fishhead | then put me on ignore if you don't like it |
| 21:36.51 | fishhead | I don't even do it here that regulally |
| 21:36.57 | J4k3 | nah dude, you're cool |
| 21:37.07 | J4k3 | I just want to filter out your occasional IRC diahrea |
| 21:37.13 | fishhead | oh |
| 21:37.15 | fishhead | nm then :P |
| 21:37.23 | fishhead | you get the board to boot yet? |
| 21:37.28 | J4k3 | yes and no |
| 21:37.39 | J4k3 | I gotta build a kernel with ide support and whatnot |
| 21:37.52 | fishhead | well I gotta go play "driving mrs grandma" so bbl |
| 21:40.24 | J4k3 | haha |
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| 21:49.55 | J4k3 | woot, 115200 console with uboot... much nicer ;) |
| 21:50.11 | Pablo | o.O |
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| 21:57.27 | agaffney | J4k3: ah, you upgraded to the new uboot version? |
| 21:57.32 | J4k3 | yep |
| 21:57.37 | agaffney | I was thinking about that |
| 21:57.56 | fishhead | oh |
| 21:57.57 | fishhead | NICE |
| 21:58.02 | fishhead | defintely have to load that |
| 21:58.10 | fishhead | my grandma changed her mind |
| 21:58.11 | agaffney | the instructions seem a bit more...concise than the ppcboot1.1.6 ones |
| 21:58.13 | fishhead | going to strangler her |
| 21:58.13 | agaffney | which worries me |
| 21:58.18 | fishhead | I lose tomarrow and the next few days |
| 21:58.23 | agaffney | J4k3: did you just foolow the directions verbatim? |
| 21:58.27 | fishhead | cause furnace being changed = dust and shit everywhere |
| 21:58.29 | fishhead | oh btw |
| 21:58.33 | fishhead | I am saving the blowers |
| 21:58.35 | fishhead | muhahahaha |
| 21:58.40 | fishhead | 10000 cfm fans own your canuck |
| 21:59.07 | agaffney | will you stop fscking saying canuck? |
| 21:59.16 | fishhead | ok for now :) |
| 21:59.17 | fishhead | BITCH HO |
| 21:59.41 | black_Nightmare | agaff...I've tried remind him -- never really listened (still staying on ignore for a while more) |
| 21:59.50 | agaffney | fishhead: are you 12? |
| 21:59.57 | fishhead | you are off by 20 |
| 22:00.07 | agaffney | -8? |
| 22:00.12 | fishhead | the other way :) |
| 22:00.20 | agaffney | certaintly doesn't seem that way |
| 22:00.29 | fishhead | yeah well I am mentally challanged |
| 22:00.36 | fishhead | so bite my canuck if you don't like it |
| 22:00.40 | agaffney | I can see that |
| 22:00.51 | J4k3 | you're socially challenged |
| 22:01.08 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 22:01.10 | J4k3 | mentally no... you're perfectly healthy there. |
| 22:01.18 | fishhead | you know what a nice exhaust fan one of those blowers is going to make |
| 22:01.20 | fishhead | for the basement |
| 22:01.21 | fishhead | :) |
| 22:01.22 | agaffney | J4k3: did you just follow the uboot upgrade directions verbatim? http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut-U-Boot ? |
| 22:01.28 | J4k3 | yes |
| 22:01.47 | J4k3 | agaffney: just be sure not to do that first part that it talks about changing the ethaddr until AFTER uboot is installed |
| 22:01.56 | J4k3 | I found it kinda confusing since it was at the top of the page |
| 22:02.45 | agaffney | why can the ethaddr only be set once? that seems silly |
| 22:03.22 | joe_bleau | agaffney: some commercial dev boards--they want to serialize before sale. |
| 22:03.48 | joe_bleau | You can just wipe out the sector with the environment and it'll allow you to change it. |
| 22:04.09 | joe_bleau | Or recompile u-boot with that one time option disabled. |
| 22:04.49 | agaffney | ah |
| 22:05.16 | fishhead | oh shit I think I forgot to turn the furnace back on after the party |
| 22:05.20 | fishhead | no wonder it's so cold |
| 22:06.30 | agaffney | I guess uboot doesn't follow ppcboot's version scheme |
| 22:11.48 | fishhead | damn the little black dress |
| 22:12.01 | fishhead | that's against the geneva convention in the war of the sexes |
| 22:17.14 | Pablo | J4k3, is socially challenged also fishhead |
| 22:17.18 | Pablo | he told me so |
| 22:21.59 | fishhead | vampire/wearwolf hybrid has to be the coolest horror movie storyline ever |
| 22:24.34 | Pablo | kekekek |
| 22:24.42 | Pablo | you are very socially challenged |
| 22:25.02 | Pablo | :O |
| 22:27.10 | sunrunner20 | you mean underworld evolutoin? |
| 22:27.17 | fishhead | haven't seen it yet |
| 22:27.19 | fishhead | just the first |
| 22:27.26 | sunrunner20 | seen the second |
| 22:27.27 | sunrunner20 | not the first |
| 22:27.41 | sunrunner20 | didn't knwo what the hell was going on most the time |
| 22:28.02 | fishhead | oh shit I missed a key part of the end |
| 22:28.02 | fishhead | wow |
| 22:28.17 | fishhead | cool |
| 22:28.21 | fishhead | II is going to be awesome |
| 22:28.30 | sunrunner20 | ? |
| 22:28.30 | sunrunner20 | II? |
| 22:28.41 | fishhead | I should ask for that or serenity or doom |
| 22:28.45 | fishhead | II = evolution |
| 22:28.48 | fishhead | you stupid canuck |
| 22:29.24 | sunrunner20 | heh |
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| 22:40.52 | Pablo | lol |
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| 22:57.27 | J4k3 | woohoo! |
| 22:57.36 | agaffney | indeed? |
| 22:58.34 | J4k3 | yeah.. something goofy happened... I had to reboot this wrt54g for the ethernet switch on it to work |
| 22:58.44 | J4k3 | I couldn't figure out why tftp wasn't working with my walnut ;) |
| 22:58.59 | J4k3 | I should get un-lazy and crimp myself another crossover cable. |
| 22:59.07 | J4k3 | and eliminate this linkshat crap from the middle. |
| 22:59.08 | agaffney | I'm wondering if I can use a sun PCI QFE card with this thing |
| 22:59.27 | agaffney | it would make a nice little custom router |
| 22:59.29 | J4k3 | quad fast ethernet? if its got drivers, I'm sure it'd work |
| 22:59.35 | J4k3 | unless theres some goofy issue with PCI risers |
| 22:59.39 | J4k3 | actually, check it out |
| 22:59.51 | J4k3 | I'll load 4 atheros cards on one PCI slot in a few minutes, and see how madwifi likes it ;) |
| 23:00.25 | J4k3 | 4 seperate minipci devices on one slot... |
| 23:00.25 | agaffney | RB14? CM9? |
| 23:00.33 | agaffney | ah |
| 23:00.35 | J4k3 | Routerboard 14... is the pci card... |
| 23:00.49 | J4k3 | CM9 is a decent quality lowish power 802.11a/b/g wifi card |
| 23:00.52 | J4k3 | for laptop/oem use |
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