| 00:26.10 | fishhead | i2wild is a fucking chicken shit |
| 00:26.19 | fishhead | and if I ever cross that oper path outside of irc |
| 00:26.21 | fishhead | I will kill him |
| 00:26.37 | fishhead | with my bare hands |
| 00:28.48 | J4k3 | o m g |
| 00:28.53 | J4k3 | fishhead with the drama |
| 00:28.57 | J4k3 | 2muchdrama |
| 00:28.59 | J4k3 | 4yourmama |
| 00:29.00 | agaffney | somebody please silence him |
| 00:29.01 | fishhead | no I am serious this time |
| 00:29.05 | agaffney | *please* |
| 00:29.11 | Chocobo | this is one crazy ass channel. |
| 00:29.26 | fishhead | blow me agaffney if it wasn't for me you would still be in your own channel with no clue about this one |
| 00:29.33 | Chocobo | No no dram, you don't want no drama... no no drama.... |
| 00:30.11 | J4k3 | fishhead: you're a great guy, you just really gotta get some immodium for your IRC client |
| 00:30.26 | fishhead | blow me too |
| 00:30.31 | fishhead | i2wild and I used to be friends |
| 00:30.38 | fishhead | and in the last few yrs he's changed |
| 00:30.42 | fishhead | turned into a total asshole |
| 00:30.53 | fishhead | it's a shame when he got mugged they didn't finish the job |
| 00:31.16 | Chocobo | I feel like I missed most of the story. |
| 00:31.16 | J4k3 | the problem is fishhead, being your friend is a *hard job* |
| 00:31.38 | J4k3 | not say, as hard as being dick chaney's friend |
| 00:31.43 | J4k3 | which means you get blasted with a shotty |
| 00:31.46 | fishhead | na other people messages me they don't like what he has become either |
| 00:32.25 | fishhead | i've given up on that channel anyways, all my old friends got smart and left, so i2wild can take his faggot little stuck up world and go fuck himself |
| 00:32.31 | fishhead | and don't corss my path outside of irc |
| 00:32.35 | fishhead | I am done with this discussion |
| 00:33.16 | fishhead | freaking back stabbers make my blood boil |
| 00:40.40 | agaffney | fishhead: and for that I thank you, but that doesn't mean I have to put up with your crazy ass |
| 00:41.48 | fishhead | you bitch more than my own mother |
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| 01:11.54 | Chocobo | hmm do you need a JTAG driver for every type of processor? Or if I get a JTAG working for say TI MSP430 should the same parallel JTAG driver work for ARM? |
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| 03:08.13 | ohsix | agaffney: here? |
| 03:09.21 | agaffney | yep |
| 03:09.30 | agaffney | what's up? |
| 03:09.32 | ohsix | have you flashed your walnut? |
| 03:09.56 | agaffney | yes |
| 03:10.04 | ohsix | did ethernet still work? |
| 03:10.26 | agaffney | dunno |
| 03:10.44 | agaffney | yes |
| 03:10.49 | ohsix | after it scrolls stdio/stdin/ide at boot time it says 'No ethernet present' |
| 03:10.51 | ohsix | oic |
| 03:11.03 | ohsix | what bin did you use, and did you save the original? |
| 03:11.22 | agaffney | I followed the instructions at http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-WalnutInstallingTheUpdatedBootloader |
| 03:11.32 | agaffney | except I used tftp instead of kermit to fetch the new image |
| 03:11.32 | ohsix | yea me too |
| 03:11.38 | ohsix | right |
| 03:11.49 | ohsix | so you used their ppcboot image? |
| 03:11.53 | agaffney | yes |
| 03:11.59 | ohsix | k, i used the u-boot one |
| 03:12.06 | ohsix | i'll wing the ppcboot one on there |
| 03:12.07 | agaffney | I haven't gone to that one yet |
| 03:12.41 | agaffney | heh, I completely forgot I started a ppc cross-toolchain build in a screen session on friday |
| 03:12.44 | ohsix | i was digging through the source last night to see what stopped ethernet from working in uboot, it looks like a patch that adds support for multiple emacs for another ppc soc broke it |
| 03:13.00 | ohsix | you know denx has a prebuilt eldk toolchain + root fs right |
| 03:13.17 | agaffney | kagome ~ # /usr/powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.4.5/powerpc-unknown-linux-gn |
| 03:13.18 | agaffney | u-gcc --version powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc (GCC) 3.4.5 (Gentoo 3.4.5, ssp-3.4.5-1.0, pie-8.7.9) |
| 03:14.03 | ohsix | tosh ~ # ${CROSS_COMPILE}gcc --version |
| 03:14.04 | ohsix | ppc_4xx-gcc (GCC) 4.0.0 (DENX ELDK 4.0 4.0.0) |
| 03:14.05 | ohsix | hur |
| 03:14.22 | Chocobo | oh man... when cross compiling gdb do I need to specify the header location... in other words, if I do not specify the header location will it use the host system headers and libraries for anything? |
| 03:15.18 | ohsix | i didn't have the sense to back up the original image, i assumed ethernet would still work, or it'd brick the board :P |
| 03:16.30 | agaffney | ohsix: you can still upload a new one with kermit |
| 03:16.45 | ohsix | yea, but i dont have the original |
| 03:16.53 | agaffney | use ppcboot1.1.6.1.bin |
| 03:16.54 | ohsix | i'd like to stash it in a safe place before i start messing around much more |
| 03:17.12 | agaffney | that one is working just fine for me |
| 03:17.29 | ohsix | does it saveenv to flash? |
| 03:18.03 | ohsix | i'd hope to get uboot working so i can adjust the features builtin |
| 03:18.15 | agaffney | yes |
| 03:18.16 | ohsix | i2c and the builtin debugger thing |
| 03:18.22 | ohsix | k |
| 03:18.27 | agaffney | that's the major reason I ugpraded |
| 03:18.27 | ohsix | that'll have to do for now |
| 03:18.34 | ohsix | yea |
| 03:18.41 | ohsix | the new u-boot has some great stuff, though |
| 03:19.13 | ohsix | i tried to poke through the supposed original sources for ppcboot on the board, the image + source dont match, they must have had a patched version |
| 03:21.12 | ohsix | i messed with setting kermit up last night to send a new image across, i couldn't get gkermit to wokr at all for sending files, hyperterminal does though |
| 03:21.28 | ohsix | but kermit is awesome as a client for the serial port |
| 03:22.52 | agaffney | indeed |
| 03:23.29 | ohsix | hm, this ppcboot thing is to be written to another address |
| 03:24.04 | ohsix | fff80000 instead of fffc0000 like u-boot, and it mentions not overwriting the last sector that has the jump back to fff80000, which i already did writing u-boot |
| 03:24.11 | jbevren | re |
| 03:24.33 | ohsix | need this gps guy to come around and explain why ethernet doesn't work :D |
| 03:25.14 | joe_bleau | GPSFan didn't break ethernet in uboot |
| 03:25.59 | J4k3 | ubutt |
| 03:26.08 | ohsix | no ubutt |
| 03:27.47 | ohsix | i also flashed a self-built uboot image without the patch on the wiki and the ethernet still broke, and they look pretty mcuh the same regarding the emac in ppcboot 1.1.2 tree |
| 03:28.02 | ohsix | except for the multiple mii/emac support added for other boards in uboot |
| 03:31.56 | agaffney | can the lights on the front of this board be turned on/off in software? |
| 03:32.07 | ohsix | nice, the page got deleted |
| 03:32.13 | ohsix | most likeky yes |
| 03:32.55 | joe_bleau | ohsix: renamed, probably? http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut-U-Boot |
| 03:33.36 | ohsix | yea i see that |
| 03:34.04 | joe_bleau | Are you planning on switching from u-boot to ppcboot? |
| 03:34.57 | ohsix | given that i dont understand the implications from the different flash addresses right this moment, no |
| 03:35.18 | ohsix | i'm hoping i'll be able to fix the ethernet in uboot, or someone will soon |
| 03:35.26 | joe_bleau | You'll need to modify the initial branch instruction at 0xfffffffc |
| 03:35.41 | ohsix | right |
| 03:36.06 | joe_bleau | I'll bet it got modified when you installed u-boot. |
| 03:36.08 | ohsix | uboot 1.1.4 is nice :D |
| 03:36.15 | ohsix | yep |
| 03:36.31 | ohsix | let me plug it in and i'll disassemble fffffffc |
| 03:36.45 | ohsix | bedbug is a must-have |
| 03:37.09 | joe_bleau | bedbug is in ppcboot 1.1.6.1 |
| 03:37.29 | ohsix | yep |
| 03:37.41 | ohsix | isn't uboot supposed to be 'better'? |
| 03:38.13 | joe_bleau | I don't know. |
| 03:38.47 | joe_bleau | with ppcboot in flash, 0xfffffffc is 0x4bf80104 (ds: fffffffc: b 0xfff80100) |
| 03:43.58 | ohsix | good to know |
| 03:44.14 | ohsix | i might get around to flashing it, i'd really like to see ethernet working with uboot though |
| 03:45.10 | joe_bleau | brb |
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| 03:46.18 | ohsix | another thing i'm interested in getting working is gkermit for file transfers |
| 03:46.30 | ohsix | it comes up 'error retry' several times and fails |
| 03:50.30 | agaffney | then it's doing something wrong |
| 03:50.41 | ohsix | i know that :P |
| 03:50.57 | agaffney | just use the real kermit program :P |
| 03:50.57 | ohsix | i tried every permutation of the options that are applicable with the latest version |
| 03:51.05 | ohsix | it is the real kermit program :P |
| 03:51.09 | ohsix | gkermit is the name of the package |
| 03:53.46 | agaffney | I'm pretty sure C-Kermit is the *real* kermit |
| 03:53.50 | ohsix | fffffffc: b 0xfffc0100 <- with that u-boot |
| 03:54.04 | ohsix | ckermit is a tiny splintered part of gkermit |
| 03:54.08 | ohsix | i've tried both |
| 04:02.49 | jbevren | man xdm is a pita to configure |
| 04:03.04 | jbevren | if you -indirect localhost, you cant use remote systems as clients |
| 04:03.09 | jbevren | bah. |
| 04:03.10 | jbevren | heh |
| 04:03.27 | ohsix | need to make it listen on tcp too |
| 04:03.35 | jbevren | it does. |
| 04:03.47 | ohsix | disable xauth and all those goodies |
| 04:03.52 | jbevren | right. |
| 04:03.54 | jbevren | how about, |
| 04:03.55 | jbevren | No. |
| 04:04.00 | ohsix | good way to steal passwords |
| 04:04.03 | jbevren | "Just let anyone and everyone connect to your server" |
| 04:04.06 | jbevren | :) |
| 04:04.21 | jbevren | if I -indirect ${ip_of_eth0} it works perfectly |
| 04:04.24 | jbevren | with Xauth enabled |
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| 04:04.45 | jbevren | imho that's a silly bug |
| 04:05.11 | ohsix | cant you just use the pipe for local clients? |
| 04:05.57 | jbevren | what local clients? |
| 04:06.02 | jbevren | there will be none :) |
| 04:06.24 | agaffney | xdmcp++ |
| 04:06.46 | ohsix | wat |
| 04:07.47 | jbevren | xdmcp++ |
| 04:07.48 | jbevren | :) |
| 04:08.27 | jbevren | xdm runs on localhost to provide a broadcast chooser |
| 04:08.42 | ohsix | i'm familiar |
| 04:08.51 | jbevren | you can log into the system via xdm, but only if the broadcast comes from localhost heh |
| 04:09.03 | jbevren | see, this is the DHT walnut board |
| 04:09.16 | jbevren | since usb keyboard doesnt yet work on console, I have it starting an X server by default |
| 04:09.34 | jbevren | :-D |
| 04:10.48 | jbevren | now if feh would get its head out of its arse about colors |
| 04:10.51 | jbevren | it'd be perfect |
| 04:12.56 | joe_bleau | I have gdb. |
| 04:13.02 | jbevren | joe_bleau: cool:) |
| 04:13.24 | jbevren | This works well as a remote terminal |
| 04:13.27 | ohsix | need me some ethernets |
| 04:13.39 | jbevren | replace ide hdd with CF and it's perfect |
| 04:13.45 | jbevren | or maybe nfsroot hrm |
| 04:13.54 | jbevren | zero-noise term |
| 04:15.31 | jbevren | a little high on ram usage, but buildroot can fix that I bet |
| 04:15.53 | agaffney | be sure to have more than 32MB of memory if you plan on using firefox |
| 04:16.06 | jbevren | firefox isnt running on this box |
| 04:16.13 | agaffney | yes, I know |
| 04:16.21 | agaffney | but it stores the images for *all* tabs on the X server |
| 04:16.31 | jbevren | ah |
| 04:16.33 | agaffney | which can eat up the remainder of 32MB *very* quickly |
| 04:16.34 | jbevren | that explains its speed |
| 04:16.40 | jbevren | (when scrolling) |
| 04:16.45 | ohsix | mmh sending the kernel over kermit |
| 04:16.47 | agaffney | I run a bunch of thin clients at work |
| 04:16.51 | agaffney | with 32MB memory |
| 04:17.02 | agaffney | firefox brings down X on the clients with 3+ tabs open |
| 04:17.18 | agaffney | 128MB upgrades in each of the thin clients "fixed" the problem |
| 04:17.31 | jbevren | ah |
| 04:17.33 | jbevren | note taken |
| 04:17.38 | jbevren | I need to get a handful of pc133's anyway |
| 04:17.40 | agaffney | the only thing these thin clients are running is a base system with 'X -query' |
| 04:17.45 | jbevren | nod |
| 04:17.51 | agaffney | it's all netboot+nfsrot |
| 04:17.52 | jbevren | uclibc can reduce this a lot |
| 04:17.55 | agaffney | nfsroot |
| 04:17.58 | jbevren | but currently I'm running debian/ppc standard |
| 04:19.05 | jbevren | agaffney: thanks for the info tho |
| 04:19.12 | jbevren | about ffox storing tab data in backingstore |
| 04:19.29 | jbevren | Oo amazon shipped my books |
| 04:19.33 | jbevren | they'll be here this week' |
| 04:19.48 | agaffney | jbevren: took me a while to figure that one out :) |
| 04:20.09 | agaffney | I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why the client-side X sessions kept dying |
| 04:20.12 | ohsix | thats how X works :P |
| 04:20.20 | ohsix | its not just firefox |
| 04:20.40 | agaffney | ohsix: yes, but most apps don't have multiple tabs of images stored in the X server |
| 04:20.42 | jbevren | ohsix: you can disable backing store :) |
| 04:20.44 | agaffney | opera doesn't do it |
| 04:20.47 | jbevren | at the cost of MUCH net bandwidth |
| 04:20.57 | jbevren | backingstore is only used when the app requests it |
| 04:21.09 | ohsix | right |
| 04:22.30 | jbevren | agaffney: something I noticed btw |
| 04:22.37 | jbevren | ffox doesnt properly deallocate its backingstore |
| 04:22.44 | jbevren | Ive had ffox and X using >500M ram |
| 04:22.53 | jbevren | even after closing all but the last tab, and the tab viewing about:blank |
| 04:22.59 | jbevren | exit ffox, X drops to ~10M |
| 04:23.06 | jbevren | from more than 300 |
| 04:23.21 | agaffney | jbevren: I think 1.5 is supposed to be a lot better about that |
| 04:23.26 | jbevren | yes |
| 04:23.30 | jbevren | but 1.5's session handling is broken |
| 04:23.37 | jbevren | if you tell it to launch the profile manager before startring |
| 04:23.38 | jbevren | it doesnt |
| 04:23.42 | jbevren | so I wont use it |
| 04:23.58 | agaffney | 1.5 is broken in lots of subtle ways |
| 04:24.03 | jbevren | nod |
| 04:24.09 | jbevren | that particular breakage makes it useless for me |
| 04:24.10 | agaffney | or less broken |
| 04:24.16 | agaffney | depending on how you look at it |
| 04:24.40 | agaffney | one thing I noticed is that it no longer renders a gap after a </form> |
| 04:24.49 | agaffney | IE does it above |
| 04:24.56 | agaffney | FF 1.0.x did it below |
| 04:25.01 | agaffney | FF 1.5 doesn't do it at all |
| 04:25.11 | agaffney | which is the Right Way(TM) imo |
| 04:25.26 | ohsix | closer to css compliance for the win |
| 04:26.19 | jbevren | Standards compliance never got anyone anywhere |
| 04:26.29 | jbevren | not that I'm against it |
| 04:26.46 | jbevren | but the standars compliance in the gecko rendering engine caused many an IE-optimized site to look crappy |
| 04:26.56 | jbevren | because IE -is- the standard, not the 'standard'. :) |
| 04:27.07 | ohsix | buhuh |
| 04:27.08 | jbevren | thankfully, ffox/gecko is gaining |
| 04:27.18 | agaffney | indeed |
| 04:28.06 | ohsix | nice, that new uboot wont even boot linux |
| 04:28.17 | jbevren | I'm still using ppcboot 1.6.1 |
| 04:28.19 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.26 | jbevren | It Works(TM) |
| 04:28.31 | jbevren | what's new in the uboot build? |
| 04:28.48 | jbevren | aside from ohsix's problems |
| 04:29.11 | ohsix | its actually still being maintained :P |
| 04:29.38 | jbevren | but it doesnt work(?) heh |
| 04:29.48 | jbevren | oh: btw, you have a DHT board too? |
| 04:29.48 | ohsix | not the image thats on the wiki |
| 04:29.50 | jbevren | when did you get it |
| 04:29.58 | ohsix | a few days ago |
| 04:30.03 | jbevren | cool |
| 04:30.11 | jbevren | I got four the night I linked them to #edev heh |
| 04:30.22 | agaffney | how long was bgmicro.com even selling them? |
| 04:30.26 | jbevren | A friend in the commodore hardware hacking community linked me |
| 04:30.33 | jbevren | agaffney: a couple weeks afaik |
| 04:46.55 | ohsix | whats the baud rate on that ppcboot image? |
| 04:47.00 | agaffney | 9600 |
| 04:47.10 | ohsix | 8n1 still right |
| 04:47.14 | agaffney | yes |
| 04:49.18 | ohsix | well its not scrolling boot messages, i fear the worst |
| 04:50.00 | ohsix | no jtag to bring it back to life :( |
| 04:52.11 | joe_bleau | ohsix: tell me you didn't just brick a board |
| 04:52.25 | ohsix | followed the instructions :P |
| 04:52.31 | ohsix | done it 10 times already |
| 04:53.22 | joe_bleau | Were you going from u-boot to ppcboot? |
| 04:53.48 | ohsix | ya |
| 04:54.07 | joe_bleau | Did you fix the initial branch instruction? |
| 04:54.34 | ohsix | yep |
| 04:54.56 | joe_bleau | crc all ok? |
| 04:55.22 | ohsix | i closed the client already, but yea |
| 04:55.37 | ohsix | the orange/red lights come on proper, just no serial scroll |
| 04:55.42 | joe_bleau | Did you log it, by chance? |
| 04:55.51 | ohsix | nope |
| 04:55.55 | joe_bleau | Hey, maybe it's just got a duff baud rate? |
| 04:56.31 | ohsix | i tried flipping it around heh |
| 04:57.47 | joe_bleau | parallel port wiggler + ocd commander... |
| 04:57.51 | ohsix | yea |
| 04:57.55 | ohsix | looking for plans to build one |
| 04:58.41 | jbevren | hm |
| 04:58.51 | joe_bleau | I'm using an Olimex arm jtag, with wirewrap to 'adjust' the pinout |
| 05:00.15 | joe_bleau | I've got one of the Insight cables, but it gives me error 43 at startup. |
| 05:01.30 | jbevren | ta heck with this, I'm tired |
| 05:01.33 | jbevren | time to get my sleep on :) |
| 05:02.40 | ohsix | hm |
| 05:02.59 | ohsix | hope i have a 74244 here |
| 05:03.15 | ohsix | what a butt |
| 05:04.09 | ohsix | http://hri.sourceforge.net/tools/ if anyone needs to build one, btw |
| 05:06.50 | joe_bleau | New version of OCD commander won't like that adapter with a jumper |
| 05:07.37 | joe_bleau | It'll want to see pins 8 and 15 tied together |
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| 05:51.02 | ohsix | so whats the pinout looklike on j10 |
| 05:51.21 | ohsix | do 2 of the pens on either end do nothing? |
| 05:51.43 | ohsix | pins |
| 05:57.08 | joe_bleau | It's a standard ppc jtag connector |
| 05:57.23 | joe_bleau | IOW, the pinout is in the manual |
| 05:57.40 | ohsix | k |
| 05:57.55 | ohsix | the board manual? or the ppc system manual? |
| 05:58.07 | ohsix | http://www.lauterbach.com/adicd440.html |
| 05:58.21 | joe_bleau | Either the 405 embedded core manual, or the AMCC405GP chip manual |
| 05:59.17 | joe_bleau | Yeah, that matches the book |
| 05:59.19 | ohsix | i've read thrhough most of the ones i've found |
| 05:59.28 | ohsix | what book? :P |
| 06:00.05 | joe_bleau | The one I linked on the Wiki: https://www.amcc.com/MyAMCC/retrieveDocument/PowerPC/405GP_GPR/PPC405GP_UM2005_v1_01.pdf |
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| 06:01.55 | ohsix | hm |
| 06:01.57 | joe_bleau | Oops...maybe it's only in the 405 core book. |
| 06:02.02 | ohsix | i scoured their website for everything |
| 06:02.03 | ohsix | right |
| 06:02.07 | joe_bleau | Almost certain I saw it in both |
| 06:05.48 | joe_bleau | Core book: http://www-306.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/D060DB54BD4DC4F2872569D2004A30D6/$file/ppc405fx_um.pdf |
| 06:06.10 | ohsix | got that one already |
| 06:06.41 | ohsix | i dont have a schematic and its a multilayer board.. i'm wondering what the pinout is at the header |
| 06:07.19 | joe_bleau | Didn't you just show me a link to the lauterback site? |
| 06:07.22 | joe_bleau | That's it. |
| 06:07.44 | ohsix | just making sure |
| 06:08.15 | ohsix | http://www.etoolsmiths.com/amcc-powerpc-405-jtag-pin-out.html there is this one too |
| 06:09.08 | joe_bleau | pin 8 is no connect according to IBM |
| 06:09.24 | joe_bleau | pin 12 reserved |
| 06:09.35 | joe_bleau | pin 13 reserved |
| 06:09.44 | joe_bleau | pin 15 reserved |
| 06:09.54 | joe_bleau | I'd say the lauterbach pinout is more accurate. |
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| 06:10.16 | ohsix | neat |
| 06:10.22 | ohsix | i've got 9pin ribbon + hood to match |
| 06:11.02 | joe_bleau | I've still got wirewrap tied to my board, running to the 20 pin arm-jtag connector |
| 06:11.30 | joe_bleau | Kinda sucks that OCD Commander under linux doesn't support the wigglers |
| 06:12.06 | ohsix | yea its got to jigger with pins that you need a driver for |
| 06:12.20 | ohsix | windows just has one of those 'open sesame' drivers that ioremaps and just does it directly in the application |
| 06:12.23 | joe_bleau | I'm just about out of here |
| 06:14.29 | joe_bleau | They support Raven under Linux, and I think it's parallel port too. |
| 06:14.42 | Pablo | hi |
| 06:14.49 | Pablo | hows the board going |
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| 09:20.02 | fishhead | http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/wr-07-a-real-transformer |
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| 14:26.47 | jbevren | yawn |
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| 14:45.57 | agaffney | time to upgrade this board to ppcboot1.1.6.1 |
| 14:46.06 | agaffney | I haven't even unwrapper this one yet |
| 14:46.24 | agaffney | *unwrapped |
| 14:50.00 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:50.09 | jbevren | I avoid doing that |
| 14:50.19 | jbevren | well, I work from home so technically the boards -are- at work |
| 14:50.27 | jbevren | but theyre in the lab, and I'm in the office :D |
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| 15:01.07 | agaffney | hurray! |
| 15:01.13 | agaffney | another successful ppcboot upgrade |
| 15:01.37 | jbevren | :) |
| 15:01.41 | jbevren | imho |
| 15:01.43 | jbevren | if it works |
| 15:01.44 | jbevren | dont fix it |
| 15:01.48 | jbevren | and 1.1.6.1 works |
| 15:01.49 | agaffney | exactly |
| 15:01.51 | jbevren | er |
| 15:01.52 | agaffney | yep |
| 15:01.53 | jbevren | 1.6.11 |
| 15:01.58 | agaffney | no, it's 1.1.6.1 |
| 15:02.06 | jbevren | sure? |
| 15:02.08 | jbevren | ok :) |
| 15:02.13 | agaffney | positive |
| 15:02.41 | agaffney | I've got 2 matrox cards and 2 4-port ethernet cards coming |
| 15:03.18 | agaffney | not quite sure what I'm going to do yet, but the matrox cards were only $34 with shipping and the NICs were free |
| 15:04.19 | jbevren | nice |
| 15:04.20 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:15.09 | jbevren | agaffney: I got some 166mhz PC's with elotouch screens for $80 each |
| 15:15.15 | jbevren | they come in industrial enclosures |
| 15:15.20 | jbevren | ebay is your friend |
| 15:15.26 | agaffney | elotouch? |
| 15:15.35 | jbevren | the lcd's btw are tft 640x480 |
| 15:15.42 | jbevren | yeah, theyre supported by the mmmtouch third-party drier |
| 15:15.44 | jbevren | =driver |
| 15:15.57 | jbevren | X has a driver built-in, but it doesnt support live calibration |
| 15:16.13 | agaffney | why would it need to calibrated? |
| 15:16.42 | jbevren | two reasons |
| 15:16.49 | jbevren | first, no two screens have the same properties |
| 15:16.53 | jbevren | s/screen/panel/ |
| 15:17.13 | jbevren | second, there's no mfr-provided clibration data :) |
| 15:17.19 | jbevren | its like palms when you first turn them on |
| 15:17.24 | jbevren | touch the X's to calibrate |
| 15:17.26 | agaffney | I've never used a palm |
| 15:17.43 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:17.57 | agaffney | although, I seem to remember that with an older pocketpc my dad had |
| 15:18.02 | jbevren | anyway, it sets up the data needed for the computer to tell what pixel youre touching |
| 15:18.10 | agaffney | ah |
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| 15:19.51 | agaffney | nothing near that cheap on ebay right now |
| 15:20.00 | jbevren | yeah |
| 15:20.03 | jbevren | I lucked out |
| 15:20.30 | agaffney | smallest I see is 15" |
| 15:20.36 | agaffney | I don't even need anything that big |
| 15:20.59 | agaffney | I don't even need it to be color |
| 15:21.08 | jbevren | nod |
| 15:21.21 | agaffney | ~9" monochrome would be fine |
| 15:21.26 | jbevren | My panel PC's are built such that the touch screen is a separate glass panel |
| 15:21.39 | jbevren | when you remove the lcd from the chassis, the panel separates from it |
| 15:21.43 | jbevren | its a standard sharp lcd |
| 15:22.29 | agaffney | I don't suppose there is something you can apply over an existing panel that is touch-sensitive |
| 15:23.21 | jbevren | yeah. elo makes them :P |
| 15:23.26 | jbevren | so does microtouch btw |
| 15:23.26 | agaffney | heh |
| 15:26.39 | agaffney | bah, why can't they just list a price? |
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| 16:11.33 | agaffney | does anyone know what J2 is for on the walnut board? |
| 16:13.40 | JoseJX | agaffney: Maybe onboard sound? There's a bunch of missing components behind it too and the missing piece next to J2 could be a cd audio port |
| 16:13.55 | JoseJX | agaffney: That and we know it was originally intended for home audio |
| 16:14.01 | jbevren | the 405 doesnt have any sort of audio tho |
| 16:14.03 | jbevren | afaik |
| 16:14.18 | JoseJX | jbevren: Right, I'd expect that that's what the missing ic would have been |
| 16:14.22 | jbevren | ohh |
| 16:14.29 | jbevren | I see |
| 16:15.02 | JoseJX | That's my guess anyway. :) |
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| 16:15.23 | JoseJX | Anyone tried switching to a 133MHz bus yet? |
| 16:16.12 | agaffney | how much of an advantage can really be expected from that? |
| 16:17.03 | JoseJX | Probably not much |
| 16:17.03 | agaffney | and what's the risk of botching it? |
| 16:17.03 | jbevren | the ram is 66mhz? |
| 16:17.07 | jbevren | agaffney: the bus is set via resistor stuffing |
| 16:17.09 | jbevren | (afaik) |
| 16:17.16 | agaffney | that means nothing to me :P |
| 16:17.18 | JoseJX | That's what it says on the board anyway |
| 16:17.42 | jbevren | JoseJX: I never looked closely enough at the resistors to determine their config |
| 16:17.57 | jbevren | in fact, I dont think Ive even found them all :) |
| 16:18.08 | JoseJX | jbevren: It comes at 66MHz |
| 16:18.17 | jbevren | nod |
| 16:18.19 | jbevren | k |
| 16:18.26 | jbevren | wonder why my pc100 ram doesnt work, then |
| 16:19.07 | jbevren | I havent tried with ppcboot 1.1.6 though |
| 16:19.26 | JoseJX | No idea. :p |
| 16:19.35 | JoseJX | I haven't had time to really play with it yet |
| 16:19.46 | jbevren | I wonder if 1.1.6 has better sdram setup |
| 16:19.52 | jbevren | and 1.1.2 was hardcoded for pc133'ish values |
| 16:20.09 | JoseJX | I upgraded to 1.1.6 via tftp which worked fine (Thanks GPSFan) :) |
| 16:20.15 | jbevren | nod |
| 16:20.16 | jbevren | same here |
| 16:20.38 | jbevren | with hdparm -d1Xudma5 I get 20M/sec on disk reads |
| 16:20.43 | JoseJX | I'm just happy the nvram works now |
| 16:21.19 | JoseJX | Pretty nice. :) |
| 16:21.25 | jbevren | yep |
| 16:21.31 | jbevren | I think thats about as fast as that drive is too |
| 16:21.52 | JoseJX | I wish they had right-angle CF-IDE adaptors |
| 16:21.55 | Pablo | helllo internet |
| 16:27.36 | agaffney | JoseJX: that would be nice, but they don't seem to exist |
| 16:28.00 | JoseJX | Yeah. I'll probably just make one |
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| 16:29.51 | jbevren | agaffney: power splitters can often be found equipped with both 5.25 and 3.5 power ends |
| 16:31.02 | J4k3 | I built my walnut's power cord |
| 16:31.36 | J4k3 | out of an old ATX PSU's "floppy ports"... two 5.25" connectors and one 3.5" connector... cut it off the psu, heatshrink'd the ends of the cut wire... called it a power cord. |
| 16:32.14 | JoseJX | If it supplies power, it's a power cord |
| 16:32.37 | agaffney | I don't have any PSUs I can cannibalize |
| 16:32.38 | jbevren | hehe |
| 16:33.02 | jbevren | You can probably provide power via the 5.25" port, if you cut the 5v lead on the psu line |
| 16:33.12 | jbevren | I havent looked close enough to verify that it's safe tho |
| 16:38.39 | fishhead | agaffney, you can get power jumpers online |
| 16:38.44 | fishhead | whatever it's called |
| 16:38.56 | agaffney | yeah, but where online? |
| 16:39.21 | fishhead | I just woke up and still seeing shit |
| 16:39.21 | jbevren | newegg.com ? |
| 16:39.22 | jbevren | hehe |
| 16:39.29 | fishhead | so give me a some time to wake up |
| 16:39.33 | fishhead | I will look |
| 16:40.07 | fishhead | suns used those btw |
| 16:40.21 | fishhead | my ss2 did |
| 16:40.25 | agaffney | newegg doesn't have 'em |
| 16:40.32 | jbevren | odd |
| 16:40.38 | agaffney | looked yesterday |
| 16:40.39 | jbevren | they sent one with my copy of windows xp OEM |
| 16:40.39 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:40.41 | agaffney | if they do, I don't know where to look |
| 16:40.45 | agaffney | heh |
| 16:41.31 | fishhead | agaffney, like I said |
| 16:41.42 | fishhead | gove me some time to wake |
| 16:44.39 | jbevren | fishhead: btw, I remember you noting that youve seen right-angle cf/ide adapters |
| 16:44.44 | jbevren | remember where? :) |
| 16:45.34 | J4k3 | I'm going to propose some legislation to my rep... Basically texas is overrun with electronic trash, and I believe the disposal of all of it should be paid for by companies that insist on not giving any programming info to 'older products' |
| 16:45.43 | J4k3 | forced early death = manufacturer pays for disposal |
| 16:46.46 | fishhead | heh |
| 16:46.54 | fishhead | I 2nd that notice |
| 16:46.57 | fishhead | err notion |
| 16:47.00 | fishhead | bah still hangover |
| 16:47.03 | J4k3 | it'd make for a lot more neat toys for us to play on ;) |
| 16:47.06 | fishhead | from previous days meds |
| 16:47.17 | J4k3 | PCs? they're open, no problem... Apples? $500/box disposal :) |
| 16:47.18 | fishhead | jbe you hang on too |
| 16:47.25 | fishhead | na |
| 16:47.34 | jbevren | fishhead: ok |
| 16:47.37 | fishhead | I don't mind a few buck fee though to make sure this stuff gets properly disposed of |
| 16:47.42 | jbevren | jake: Not bad |
| 16:47.44 | fishhead | it's gay to just landfill it anyways |
| 16:47.48 | jbevren | although we know a lot about most of the old macs |
| 16:47.48 | jbevren | heh |
| 16:48.01 | fishhead | even if there is 0% impact on the planet |
| 16:48.03 | fishhead | it's still gay |
| 16:48.07 | fishhead | wasting resources is gay |
| 16:48.10 | fishhead | perood |
| 16:48.10 | J4k3 | well, the trick is, in this scenario apple would *have* to give info, or pay disposal. |
| 16:48.14 | jbevren | fishhead: you can burn dried poop |
| 16:48.17 | jbevren | I dont want to see you flush |
| 16:48.17 | fishhead | yep |
| 16:48.17 | jbevren | ever |
| 16:48.18 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:48.30 | fishhead | uhh they can also turn into fertilizer |
| 16:48.33 | jbevren | yeah |
| 16:48.36 | fishhead | so bad example |
| 16:48.38 | jbevren | I had some friends that had a composting toilet |
| 16:48.50 | jbevren | but you cant turn post-city sewage solids into fert |
| 16:48.51 | fishhead | btw many landfills now |
| 16:48.55 | fishhead | are capturing the gas |
| 16:49.02 | J4k3 | some local guy is trying to tent the sewage treatment near town |
| 16:49.03 | fishhead | run turbines and make power |
| 16:49.08 | J4k3 | (we're on a tank here...) |
| 16:49.11 | fishhead | j4k3 why not |
| 16:49.19 | J4k3 | I think its a great idea |
| 16:49.21 | fishhead | if they capture the gas = cheap power to run the macines |
| 16:49.34 | J4k3 | the high tension lines only run about 1/4mi away from the treatment plant |
| 16:49.43 | fishhead | microturbines are getting cheap and efficient as hell |
| 16:49.45 | J4k3 | so if he actually starts making any real energy, he'll have a way to pump it out to the grid |
| 16:50.11 | fishhead | hey have microturbines all over the world |
| 16:50.16 | fishhead | where they get oil |
| 16:50.18 | J4k3 | yep.... |
| 16:50.21 | fishhead | you kno whow they have to flare the gas |
| 16:50.22 | J4k3 | hell dude, this is the best thing ever |
| 16:50.23 | fishhead | to prevent boom |
| 16:50.26 | J4k3 | theres a baseball field |
| 16:50.30 | fishhead | now the machines suck off the gas |
| 16:50.31 | Pablo | mwahahaha |
| 16:50.32 | fishhead | and make power |
| 16:50.33 | J4k3 | next to the sewage treatment |
| 16:50.40 | J4k3 | if the wind is out of the south, all is well |
| 16:50.44 | J4k3 | north - unbreathable. |
| 16:50.48 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 16:50.50 | fishhead | HOLY SHIT! |
| 16:50.54 | J4k3 | with the tent, hopefully, no more fumes. |
| 16:51.02 | J4k3 | wassup pablo |
| 16:51.04 | fishhead | what is he using material wise |
| 16:51.20 | Pablo | nothing |
| 16:51.29 | J4k3 | I'm not sure... I need to go over there and inform him we can set him up cheap camera monitoring on it |
| 16:51.29 | fishhead | HDPE Would be idea since it can put up with the acids from gases |
| 16:51.31 | fishhead | one major problem |
| 16:51.41 | fishhead | sunlight will degrade the shit out of HDPE |
| 16:51.45 | fishhead | unless you get UV proof |
| 16:51.49 | fishhead | which is easy to do now |
| 16:51.58 | fishhead | using titanium oxide or zinc oxide |
| 16:52.02 | fishhead | both non toxic and cheap |
| 16:52.11 | fishhead | zinc oxide = lifeguard white nose shit |
| 16:52.14 | J4k3 | yep |
| 16:52.19 | J4k3 | zinc oxide = cheap heatsink grease |
| 16:52.26 | fishhead | plus contrary to belief |
| 16:52.35 | fishhead | titanium is super abundant |
| 16:52.45 | fishhead | problem is it's like aluminum only worse |
| 16:52.45 | J4k3 | see, I'm cool |
| 16:52.52 | fishhead | expensive as hell to process |
| 16:52.52 | J4k3 | instead of the white stuff, I rub my nose down with arctic silver |
| 16:52.53 | fishhead | but |
| 16:52.55 | jbevren | zinc oxide is a good material |
| 16:53.00 | fishhead | titanium oxide is cheap |
| 16:53.02 | jbevren | provided it doesnt have a water-based substrate |
| 16:53.05 | fishhead | cause you don't have to process as much |
| 16:53.10 | fishhead | they use it in paint |
| 16:53.18 | fishhead | cause like zinc oxide |
| 16:53.18 | jbevren | the biggest problem with heatsink grease is that people always put too much on |
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| 16:53.27 | fishhead | it's a UV whore |
| 16:53.29 | jbevren | spread a small amount on paper |
| 16:53.34 | jbevren | pick some up by tapping it with your fingertip |
| 16:53.36 | fishhead | oh yeah sorry about last night |
| 16:53.45 | jbevren | tap both sides of the joint repeatedly to get a paper thin layer |
| 16:53.46 | fishhead | I just get piss when friends stab me in the back |
| 16:53.47 | jbevren | assemble |
| 16:53.52 | jbevren | never fails for me |
| 16:53.53 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:54.07 | fishhead | jbe the first time I discovered grease |
| 16:54.07 | J4k3 | I haven't had to mess with thermal paste in a while |
| 16:54.13 | fishhead | as when I built my first pc |
| 16:54.15 | fishhead | a cyrix 266 |
| 16:54.23 | J4k3 | yay for Athlon64 and Opteron processors... so far, no 'fights' |
| 16:54.23 | jbevren | 266's dont even need grease :) |
| 16:54.23 | fishhead | I read something then decided to add it |
| 16:54.26 | jbevren | especially cyrix's |
| 16:54.27 | fishhead | dropped 30f |
| 16:54.29 | fishhead | i was like WHOA |
| 16:54.45 | J4k3 | my cyrix 6x86/P150+ @ 166+ speeds (ooh, ahhh, 6 mhz fsb oc) ran so hot... |
| 16:54.46 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 16:55.02 | fishhead | btw you know what I discovered works well to remove evne old grease |
| 16:55.08 | J4k3 | first x86 CPU that really needed a heatsink |
| 16:55.11 | jbevren | fishhead: goo gone. |
| 16:55.18 | jbevren | it even removes the leftover plastic from the thermal pads |
| 16:55.23 | jbevren | or goof off |
| 16:55.27 | fishhead | butyl cellosolve aka windex, simple green, purple power, mean green, 409, fantastic |
| 16:55.29 | jbevren | or anything that uses heavy naptha |
| 16:55.31 | J4k3 | jbevren knows my magic. |
| 16:55.37 | J4k3 | goo gone = teh shit, but damn that smelll. |
| 16:55.43 | fishhead | JUST DO NOT GET IT ON ANYTHING ELSE IT'S A +12PH BASE AND WILL CORRODE SHIT |
| 16:55.44 | jbevren | I use goof off |
| 16:55.49 | fishhead | AND MAKE SURE YOU RISE THE CANUCK OUT OF IT |
| 16:55.49 | jbevren | smells betta |
| 16:55.56 | fishhead | goo gone is a oil though |
| 16:55.59 | jbevren | fishhead: thats why you clean the cpu after |
| 16:56.00 | fishhead | will leave residue |
| 16:56.04 | jbevren | no, it doesnt |
| 16:56.13 | fishhead | jbe of course I wash that shit off |
| 16:56.14 | J4k3 | heh |
| 16:56.15 | jbevren | not more than your heatsink grease will :) |
| 16:56.19 | fishhead | just saying for the less experienced here |
| 16:56.19 | J4k3 | I used to use wheel bearing grease |
| 16:56.20 | J4k3 | on CPUs |
| 16:56.26 | J4k3 | I did this until the Athlon came out. |
| 16:56.31 | fishhead | j4k3 that was probably still better than nothing |
| 16:56.32 | fishhead | :) |
| 16:56.37 | J4k3 | worked suprisingly well |
| 16:56.50 | fishhead | man I ripped off the heatplate on this fused k6-233 |
| 16:56.51 | J4k3 | I bought this green shit, mystik branded... claimed to be physically stable to like 300F |
| 16:56.54 | fishhead | it looks like a athlon |
| 16:57.00 | J4k3 | haha yeah |
| 16:57.11 | fishhead | ugh |
| 16:57.14 | J4k3 | if you use a socket A heatsink, you can run it lid-less. |
| 16:57.15 | fishhead | our power is destabiklizing |
| 16:57.27 | J4k3 | but the cores are easier to break than an athlon, by far |
| 16:57.42 | fishhead | man we need to get esd a visa |
| 16:57.48 | fishhead | and a job at a semi conductor company |
| 16:58.06 | J4k3 | a visa? to go where? japan? :) |
| 16:58.11 | fishhead | his company ASSHAT (asat) is giving him the boot so they can move form taiwain to chinkland as he puts it |
| 16:58.15 | fishhead | he does this stuff |
| 16:58.24 | fishhead | he tests packaging like flip chip etc |
| 16:58.31 | J4k3 | I know esd makes RF-related stuff |
| 16:58.44 | J4k3 | or is at least part of the manufacturing chain |
| 16:58.52 | fishhead | he does semi packaging dude |
| 16:58.55 | fishhead | dip |
| 16:58.55 | J4k3 | I wonder if hes involved with ubnt.com's stuff |
| 16:58.57 | fishhead | tqfp |
| 16:59.02 | fishhead | all tha stuf we never think of |
| 16:59.06 | J4k3 | yeah, but typically RF-related products |
| 16:59.13 | fishhead | his company makes sure the plastic clothes are fitting well |
| 16:59.21 | fishhead | one of his customers is uhh |
| 16:59.35 | fishhead | company that makes a mp3 decoder chip |
| 16:59.36 | fishhead | used in most of the mp3 players |
| 16:59.49 | fishhead | speaking of clothes |
| 17:00.13 | fishhead | I had another dream were I created yet another way to make woman's clothing melt, vanish, etc |
| 17:00.15 | J4k3 | http://www.ubnt.com/litestation2.php4 |
| 17:00.20 | fishhead | only this time I got caught |
| 17:00.26 | fishhead | and paid for it :P |
| 17:00.27 | J4k3 | that thing is HAWT |
| 17:00.43 | J4k3 | I woke up to dogs and cats fighting in my room |
| 17:00.56 | J4k3 | my dog was like "hey, cold bedroom"... my bitchy female cat was like "my bedroom!" |
| 17:01.02 | fishhead | all a bunch of angry chicks melting all your clothes off |
| 17:01.07 | fishhead | I can think of worse ways to go :P |
| 17:01.24 | fishhead | ooo looks cool j4k3 |
| 17:01.42 | fishhead | how much |
| 17:02.00 | J4k3 | $150ish I'm hoping. |
| 17:02.12 | J4k3 | that has an integrated ubiquiti high power b/g radio |
| 17:02.26 | fishhead | not too bad for a router or bouncer |
| 17:02.33 | J4k3 | well |
| 17:02.37 | J4k3 | thats a second minipci slot |
| 17:02.40 | jbevren | hey there's an idea |
| 17:02.40 | J4k3 | on the lefthand side |
| 17:02.41 | jbevren | wireless router |
| 17:02.42 | jbevren | hehe |
| 17:03.08 | fishhead | jbe |
| 17:03.09 | J4k3 | well... most "wisp" gear is lamer than a fawking linksys router |
| 17:03.10 | fishhead | not for $100 |
| 17:03.13 | fishhead | err $150 |
| 17:03.30 | fishhead | that would destroy him for CPE charges |
| 17:03.46 | fishhead | hey j4k3 what ever happen to that customer sharing agreement |
| 17:03.56 | J4k3 | fishhead: so far so good |
| 17:03.59 | fishhead | cool :) |
| 17:04.06 | fishhead | isp's should be more flexable |
| 17:04.22 | jbevren | fishhead: did you remember whre you saw the cf things? |
| 17:04.23 | J4k3 | ISPs are having to be |
| 17:04.29 | fishhead | jbe lemme seach |
| 17:04.31 | fishhead | j4k3 good |
| 17:04.31 | J4k3 | else they get ran over by the republicans, err, telcos. |
| 17:05.00 | fishhead | ugh I thin I had too much tea and energy drink = colon power flush |
| 17:05.43 | fishhead | jbe searching now |
| 17:05.59 | fishhead | WHOA |
| 17:06.01 | fishhead | CF TO SATA |
| 17:06.05 | fishhead | OWNS YOUR CANUCK! |
| 17:06.14 | J4k3 | cf to sata is ugly. |
| 17:06.19 | fishhead | http://www.acscontrol.com/Index_ACS.asp?Page=/Pages/Products/CompactFlash/IDE_To_CF_Adapter.htm |
| 17:06.20 | J4k3 | we need a native sata flash module. |
| 17:06.21 | fishhead | example one |
| 17:06.29 | fishhead | j4k3 not really |
| 17:06.38 | fishhead | for flash no penalty really |
| 17:06.43 | J4k3 | yes there is |
| 17:06.46 | J4k3 | lots of wires |
| 17:06.50 | J4k3 | and that expensive-ass CF connector |
| 17:06.54 | J4k3 | its like $2.50 wholesale. |
| 17:07.44 | fishhead | DUDE |
| 17:07.45 | fishhead | http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=16 |
| 17:07.52 | fishhead | 64 meg ide disk module for $15 ? |
| 17:07.58 | fishhead | roughly I am guessing us |
| 17:08.00 | fishhead | screw cf to ide |
| 17:08.14 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 17:08.32 | fishhead | jbe check it too |
| 17:08.35 | J4k3 | IDE's 'out' though... this will work on the current generation of stuff |
| 17:08.43 | J4k3 | but... gotta move past IDE/CF soon |
| 17:08.48 | fishhead | j4k3 embedded don't change that fast |
| 17:09.26 | fishhead | http://www.psism.com/mini-ide-drive.htm#SimpleTech |
| 17:09.57 | fishhead | 16MB |
| 17:09.57 | fishhead | |
| 17:09.57 | fishhead | SMIF016S-ACSC-40V0 |
| 17:09.57 | fishhead | |
| 17:09.57 | fishhead | $45 |
| 17:09.58 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.00 | fishhead | WMIF016S-AISI-40V0 |
| 17:10.02 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.04 | fishhead | $59 |
| 17:10.06 | fishhead | 32MB |
| 17:10.09 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.10 | fishhead | SMIF032S-ACSC-40V0 |
| 17:10.14 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.16 | fishhead | $49 |
| 17:10.18 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.20 | fishhead | WMIF032S-AISI-40V0 |
| 17:10.22 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.24 | fishhead | $65 |
| 17:10.26 | fishhead | 64MB |
| 17:10.28 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.30 | fishhead | SMIF064S-ACSC-40V0 |
| 17:10.32 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.34 | fishhead | $72 |
| 17:10.36 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.38 | fishhead | WMIF064S-AISI-40V0 |
| 17:10.40 | fishhead | |
| 17:10.44 | fishhead | $99 |
| 17:10.46 | fishhead | ugh |
| 17:10.48 | fishhead | never formats right |
| 17:11.14 | fishhead | WHOA |
| 17:11.18 | fishhead | 512 $63 |
| 17:11.19 | fishhead | HELL YEAH |
| 17:11.20 | fishhead | http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/cPath/44/products_id/513 |
| 17:11.32 | jbevren | fishhead: those arent cf adapters. |
| 17:11.45 | fishhead | dude I know that |
| 17:11.53 | jbevren | theyre neat though |
| 17:11.54 | fishhead | I am just saying while I was looking I found these too |
| 17:12.13 | fishhead | wow 256 $40 |
| 17:13.18 | fishhead | jbe |
| 17:13.28 | fishhead | there are tons of links for you wanted here is the google I used |
| 17:13.33 | fishhead | but I will list some specifics too |
| 17:13.35 | fishhead | http://www.google.com/search?q=compact+flash+to+ide+adaptor+female&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s |
| 17:13.46 | fishhead | basically it's a female compact flash to ide adaptor |
| 17:14.57 | fishhead | BINGO |
| 17:14.58 | fishhead | http://www.logicsupply.com/default.php/cPath/47_67 |
| 17:15.00 | fishhead | jbe |
| 17:15.19 | fishhead | jbevren, |
| 17:15.21 | fishhead | http://www.logicsupply.com/default.php/cPath/47_67 |
| 17:15.31 | jbevren | CFDISK.5H but without the right-angle header |
| 17:15.38 | fishhead | ? |
| 17:15.41 | jbevren | I want it to lay down heh |
| 17:15.46 | jbevren | this one stands up |
| 17:15.52 | fishhead | they all do |
| 17:16.00 | fishhead | probably best to get a all in one ide disk module then |
| 17:16.16 | jbevren | so when the flash goes bad I have to buy a new (expensive) module |
| 17:16.17 | jbevren | heh |
| 17:16.21 | fishhead | uhh dude |
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| 17:16.26 | fishhead | $15 for 32 meg ? |
| 17:16.29 | fishhead | WHO CARES |
| 17:16.33 | fishhead | IT HAS WEAR LEVELING |
| 17:16.46 | fishhead | plus linux on top of that has filesystems that even do more wear leveling and minimize writes |
| 17:16.50 | fishhead | it should last for yrs |
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| 17:17.32 | fishhead | I don't even trust MYSELF and even I am comvinced that 9/10 flash is reliable |
| 17:18.25 | J4k3 | yes and no |
| 17:18.28 | fishhead | HOLY MOTHER OF CANUCK |
| 17:18.29 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 17:18.31 | fishhead | the bottom |
| 17:18.32 | fishhead | http://www.logicsupply.com/default.php/cPath/47_70 |
| 17:18.33 | J4k3 | there are still bad flash modules |
| 17:18.44 | J4k3 | like my Kingston 512 that died in 2 weeks of RO use |
| 17:18.45 | jbevren | fishhead: yeah, I know how to minimize wear |
| 17:18.48 | jbevren | heh |
| 17:18.48 | fishhead | oh always, never underestimate the power of a moron to fuck it up |
| 17:19.08 | fishhead | j4k3, BLUNTS! |
| 17:19.09 | J4k3 | I wrote to it once, left it RO... box locks up 2 weeks later with a bad card. |
| 17:19.20 | J4k3 | drop in a PQI-branded module... problem didn't reoccur |
| 17:20.11 | fishhead | the blunts is an inside joke on another network |
| 17:20.13 | fishhead | :P |
| 17:20.53 | J4k3 | I think that joke only exists in your basement |
| 17:20.59 | J4k3 | but, yeah |
| 17:21.24 | fishhead | w00t |
| 17:21.41 | fishhead | working on way to disable local playback on my PVR250 in windoww |
| 17:21.50 | fishhead | the cpu drops to 0 when just doing recording |
| 17:21.54 | fishhead | or I could just get another app |
| 17:22.03 | jbevren | . o O ( mythtv ) |
| 17:22.53 | fishhead | eventually when I have a pc to throw it into |
| 17:23.05 | fishhead | hauppage software is canucked |
| 17:23.20 | fishhead | I AM MORE STABLE THAN HAUPPAGE DRIVERS AND APPS |
| 17:23.31 | J4k3 | hauppage is screwed... |
| 17:23.36 | J4k3 | they're the modern day STB |
| 17:23.42 | J4k3 | and well, STB gave TV cards a bad name. |
| 17:23.44 | J4k3 | all around. |
| 17:24.00 | J4k3 | I think thats the right name, STB |
| 17:24.08 | J4k3 | they were a video card OEM for Gateway for a couple years |
| 17:24.12 | J4k3 | back in the early P2 days |
| 17:28.39 | fishhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.45 | fishhead | that's pretty damn good |
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| 17:32.28 | jbevren | 512 should be enough tho |
| 17:34.16 | jbevren | fishhead: I suppose, if I really need right-angle I can make a 1-inch cable and use a mail one :) |
| 17:34.40 | fishhead | actualy you can buy 1 inch for this prupose |
| 17:35.08 | jbevren | or I can make one |
| 17:35.15 | jbevren | I have 40pin cable, heads, and a crimp :) |
| 17:35.18 | jbevren | but yeah |
| 17:39.50 | fishhead | yeah if you are good at that |
| 17:39.55 | fishhead | I never had luck making connectors |
| 17:40.07 | fishhead | plus I have motor control function problems from the adhd |
| 17:40.14 | fishhead | it's hell just to hold onto a screw |
| 17:40.22 | fishhead | my hands cramp up in minutes so bad I can't hold anything |
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| 17:47.14 | jbevren | ah |
| 17:47.19 | jbevren | good reason to get a bench press |
| 17:47.26 | jbevren | those dont require much manual strength |
| 17:47.31 | jbevren | actually my idc one doesnt either |
| 17:47.43 | jbevren | it has lots of leverage, even my niece can crimp with it |
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| 17:57.32 | fishhead | I am going to try to salvage the blowers and control logic and gas valve |
| 17:57.39 | fishhead | from the furnace being replaced in a few hrs |
| 17:57.45 | fishhead | fun experiments ! |
| 17:57.59 | fishhead | I might be able to use the blower and exhaust blades for winmills |
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| 18:27.48 | jbevren | teehee |
| 18:52.52 | jbevren | remind me; does the 405GP have a fpu? |
| 18:54.07 | fishhead | don't think so |
| 18:54.18 | fishhead | nope |
| 18:54.20 | fishhead | just googled |
| 18:54.22 | fishhead | but |
| 18:54.32 | fishhead | the ppc has some sse like things afaik |
| 18:54.38 | fishhead | that is good for soft fpu apps |
| 18:56.07 | fishhead | whoa it supports ibm codepack |
| 18:56.14 | fishhead | wonder if we can compile linux stuff to use that |
| 18:56.28 | fishhead | https://www.amcc.com/MyAMCC/jsp/public/productDetail/product_detail.jsp?productID=PPC405GP |
| 18:58.52 | jbevren | nod |
| 18:59.51 | fishhead | there might be softfloat routines optimized for the powerpc |
| 18:59.55 | fishhead | i dunno yet, googling |
| 19:00.29 | jbevren | gcc has a soft-float option |
| 19:00.30 | fishhead | oh well |
| 19:00.32 | fishhead | ah |
| 19:00.33 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:00.36 | jbevren | as does the kernel |
| 19:00.39 | fishhead | I know |
| 19:00.42 | jbevren | but I'm using the c-lib's soft float |
| 19:00.50 | fishhead | but I am wondering if there are ways to optimize soft flat so it's less of a hit |
| 19:01.13 | fishhead | it's a real shame we don't support the cirrus fpu in the webpal cpu |
| 19:01.24 | jbevren | the most common way is to optimize by choosing kernel vs libc soft float |
| 19:01.37 | fishhead | trade off ? |
| 19:01.52 | jbevren | one's faster than the other |
| 19:01.54 | jbevren | heh |
| 19:02.01 | jbevren | dunno which is faster |
| 19:02.15 | fishhead | ah well there must be a difference for 2 options to exist |
| 19:02.22 | fishhead | hmm mabye I will fire up the ppc board in a few mins |
| 19:02.27 | fishhead | i can't do any cleaning today |
| 19:02.37 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:02.42 | fishhead | cause when the furnace is changed it's going to blow shit everwhele for a few days |
| 19:02.50 | jbevren | kernel fpu emu exists for installations without soft float in c-lib |
| 19:03.02 | jbevren | c-lib fpu emu exists for systems without a kernel that has soft fpu |
| 19:03.04 | jbevren | :P |
| 19:03.07 | fishhead | ah |
| 19:03.08 | fishhead | hmm |
| 19:03.11 | jbevren | also, |
| 19:03.17 | jbevren | not all applications will be using a kernel |
| 19:03.23 | fishhead | ? |
| 19:03.25 | jbevren | some will be a direct-IO application |
| 19:03.40 | jbevren | gcc isnt just for linux as you know |
| 19:03.45 | jbevren | it can biuld standalone applications |
| 19:03.50 | fishhead | ah |
| 19:03.56 | jbevren | a good example of a standalone application is the linux kernel itself ;-) |
| 19:04.02 | fishhead | yea i want to look into a terminal program that is an os |
| 19:04.06 | fishhead | like bootable minicom |
| 19:04.08 | fishhead | for the juicebox |
| 19:04.14 | fishhead | actually scratch that |
| 19:04.19 | jbevren | jb lacks key input ;-) |
| 19:04.24 | fishhead | I want just serial lcd graphics routines |
| 19:04.33 | fishhead | so it can be used like a graphical lcd |
| 19:04.36 | fishhead | off serial |
| 19:04.38 | jbevren | that said, i wouldnt mind a wireless or IR emitter on it and using it as a remote |
| 19:07.00 | agaffney | heh |
| 19:11.56 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:12.07 | jbevren | hmm unidirectional rs232 IR emitter |
| 19:13.54 | jbevren | buildroot fails to build |
| 19:13.56 | jbevren | lovely piece of software, taht |
| 19:14.38 | jbevren | gcc manpage says mcpu=405 is valid |
| 19:14.45 | jbevren | gcc itself says wtf do you mean mcpu=405 |
| 19:14.49 | jbevren | lovely documentation guys |
| 19:14.52 | jbevren | (/rant) |
| 19:15.32 | jbevren | same for mtune=405 |
| 19:15.40 | jbevren | roight. |
| 19:15.58 | jbevren | anyone know how to get gcc to follow its documentation? |
| 19:19.47 | fishhead | heh |
| 19:23.29 | jbevren | I remember running into this with buildroot before |
| 19:23.38 | jbevren | I want to specify a mtune option for the cross compiler |
| 19:23.48 | jbevren | and it applies the tune option to the local compiler while building the cross compiler |
| 19:23.56 | jbevren | pretty dumb imho |
| 19:29.46 | fishhead | what's the polarity on the ppc power socket |
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| 19:33.14 | JoseJX | + in the middle I think |
| 19:34.42 | jbevren | buildroot fails to build |
| 19:35.09 | jbevren | JoseJX: center positive |
| 19:35.18 | JoseJX | Yep, that's what I said. |
| 19:35.21 | jbevren | my psu is center positive and its working as we speak :) |
| 19:35.44 | fishhead | thx |
| 19:37.03 | jbevren | when there are build issues in uclibc, it should be obvious that they didnt check anything |
| 19:37.23 | jbevren | and they not being the buildroot crew |
| 19:37.34 | jbevren | this error was internal to uclibc's sources |
| 19:42.48 | fishhead | http://www.thehostingnews.com/article2033.html |
| 19:44.30 | jbevren | lol |
| 19:44.34 | jbevren | we tried antivirus on a system once |
| 19:44.42 | jbevren | the system went down two minutes later |
| 19:44.46 | jbevren | the antivirus and email system took it out |
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| 20:03.11 | agaffney | I've got my power adapter...now I just need a IDE->CF adapter to power :) |
| 20:04.07 | agaffney | and a couple of CF cards :P |
| 20:06.53 | jbevren | hehe |
| 20:07.00 | jbevren | I have an 80gig ide drive on my test unit |
| 20:07.06 | jbevren | good enough for poking at things |
| 20:09.14 | fishhead | w00t |
| 20:09.16 | fishhead | he said take em |
| 20:09.27 | agaffney | take what? |
| 20:09.30 | fishhead | just might have to wait till the insurance gets pics of the furnace but then the blowers are MINE! |
| 20:09.34 | fishhead | muhahaha |
| 20:10.35 | fishhead | the blowers and control logic |
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| 20:12.28 | fishhead | one thing that sucks about using the ppc board for router/firewall |
| 20:12.36 | fishhead | you can't use any of the nice custom linux router distros |
| 20:12.40 | fishhead | oh well ;/ |
| 20:20.13 | jbevren | linksys (used to) offer their source code |
| 20:20.13 | jbevren | its all just a bunch of shell scripts |
| 20:20.13 | fishhead | mabye we can do a openWRT port :p |
| 20:20.52 | JoseJX | agaffney: BTW, I've got gentoo booting nicely on the walnut now. |
| 20:21.37 | agaffney | JoseJX: I had it working with the glibc stage3 on friday |
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| 20:22.13 | JoseJX | agaffney: With uclibc |
| 20:22.39 | agaffney | JoseJX: someone needs to build some new uclibc stages |
| 20:23.24 | JoseJX | SpanKY said he did it, but they're not available yet. :p |
| 20:23.38 | agaffney | waiting for the release? |
| 20:23.41 | JoseJX | Prob. |
| 20:24.47 | agaffney | meh, nothing |
| 20:25.01 | JoseJX | I'm sure he'd love it if you bug him about it |
| 20:25.12 | agaffney | I'm sure |
| 20:25.37 | agaffney | I was already on his ass the other day about him removing all the users from the default /etc/passwd |
| 20:25.45 | agaffney | because it broke the installer horribly |
| 20:25.51 | JoseJX | heh |
| 20:25.57 | JoseJX | What's the deal with the ppc installer btw? |
| 20:26.05 | JoseJX | Did you ever get a machine? |
| 20:26.09 | agaffney | JoseJX: waiting on me getting better hardware |
| 20:26.24 | agaffney | I can't do anything useful with that 333MHz imac |
| 20:26.32 | agaffney | I'm looking at getting a dual-proc G4 tower |
| 20:27.01 | JoseJX | agaffney: I've got an iBook G3 900 here with a broken latch, broken hd and possibly a logic board issue. :p Want it? I think the owner wants to get rid of it. |
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| 20:27.18 | agaffney | JoseJX: sounds....useful :/ |
| 20:27.28 | JoseJX | agaffney: The machine refuses to power on sometimes, but when it works it's fine. |
| 20:27.36 | agaffney | JoseJX: yeah, I'll take it |
| 20:27.44 | JoseJX | heh |
| 20:27.56 | agaffney | HDs are replaceable and I'm cool with hitting the power button a few times :P |
| 20:27.59 | JoseJX | I'm not sure if he want's anything for it, I'll ask and see, otherwise it's yours okay? |
| 20:28.06 | agaffney | works for me :) |
| 20:28.50 | JoseJX | Right now it's building the ppc32 GRP :) |
| 20:29.31 | agaffney | hah |
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| 20:31.27 | agaffney | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.27 | agaffney | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.29 | agaffney | whee! |
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| 20:33.51 | agaffney | this drive is fscking noisy |
| 20:40.37 | agaffney | JoseJX: for some reason, my nfsroot has started trying to force me to change the root password, which fails because I'm using ro nfsroot...any idea how to stop that? |
| 20:41.54 | JoseJX | I have no idea |
| 20:42.02 | agaffney | it started doing that on friday |
| 20:42.15 | agaffney | now I can't login :P |
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| 20:57.24 | fishhead | the new furnace has a PIC in it |
| 20:57.25 | fishhead | hehehe |
| 20:58.37 | fishhead | I think I am going to get out the PPC board in a bit :) |
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| 21:04.33 | fishhead | actually I might do double duty |
| 21:04.45 | fishhead | printer server and shell bnc/irc bot box |
| 21:05.24 | fishhead | it's low power and can't do much else anyways |
| 21:05.59 | fishhead | going to remove the 8051 out of it since it won't need the wireless keyboard or mouse |
| 21:06.16 | fishhead | now I just got to find a 32 meg simm that is 2k refresh |
| 21:06.18 | fishhead | :/ |
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| 21:18.24 | J4k3 | why the hell |
| 21:18.35 | J4k3 | considering real print servers are like $5 on ebay |
| 21:18.45 | J4k3 | why would you waste a device with an LCD and such to do such a lame task? |
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| 21:25.40 | fishhead | with a lcd and such? |
| 21:25.43 | fishhead | what are you talking about |
| 21:25.53 | fishhead | dude it's also going to be my bnc box |
| 21:26.00 | fishhead | lemme show you hang on |
| 21:26.07 | overseer | gotbnc bnc? |
| 21:26.16 | fishhead | psybnc |
| 21:26.33 | fishhead | I need something that allows multiple servers, multiple nicks and muliple notify for each |
| 21:26.36 | overseer | i'm still looking for an ipkg for my openwrt of that package |
| 21:26.54 | fishhead | j4k3 http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html |
| 21:27.19 | fishhead | no lcd and if I am going to hook a device to a tv I might as well use a pc with some balls and a tv out card |
| 21:27.29 | fishhead | the juicebox has more cpu than this |
| 21:27.49 | fishhead | plus that remote and keyboard are standard issue used on some other appliaces so you can use them on a pc etc |
| 21:27.54 | fishhead | not like they will go to waste |
| 21:28.19 | J4k3 | oh, webpal |
| 21:28.24 | J4k3 | I got it confused with the juicebox |
| 21:28.29 | J4k3 | webpals are slooooooow |
| 21:28.36 | fishhead | heh no jb doesn't even have enough io or mem for printring |
| 21:28.43 | fishhead | on a network too |
| 21:28.54 | fishhead | j4k3 not with just console linux tweaked and samba for print |
| 21:28.55 | fishhead | should be fine |
| 21:29.05 | J4k3 | yeah... that'll be fine, so would a 386 :) |
| 21:29.11 | J4k3 | I have some Intel print servers here |
| 21:29.12 | fishhead | i was going to run irc clients on it and use minimal X and login to it from windows pc etc |
| 21:29.14 | J4k3 | that are i386-based |
| 21:29.16 | fishhead | and not run local irc clients |
| 21:29.22 | fishhead | but I might use psybnc instead |
| 21:29.49 | fishhead | the webpal can't do mp3 really so it really doesn't have much else use |
| 21:30.20 | fishhead | well I think you can code it to change to auto away, and also disconnect when not on etc |
| 21:30.29 | fishhead | it will just retain all my channel lists, messages etc |
| 21:30.41 | fishhead | so I don't have to manually do that shit anymore when I reboot or switch machines etc |
| 21:30.55 | J4k3 | ah... the only machine I ever irc off of is my laptop |
| 21:31.06 | J4k3 | the rare events I want to irc elsewhere, I sure as hell don't wanna have to load up an irc client |
| 21:31.21 | J4k3 | so I download putty and ssh my mailserver, which always has an irssi client sitting on efnet. |
| 21:31.32 | fishhead | this is like that |
| 21:31.40 | fishhead | see you can script mirc and xchat to auto connect to the bnc |
| 21:31.42 | J4k3 | my SATA RAID card showed up today :) :) |
| 21:31.45 | fishhead | and get updated with all the lists etc |
| 21:50.01 | fishhead | oh how cool |
| 21:50.10 | fishhead | they have record only apps for windows for my pvr250 |
| 21:50.19 | fishhead | so I don't have to crush the cpu showing the preview |
| 21:50.27 | fishhead | if I am not watching |
| 21:56.29 | J4k3 | good! |
| 21:56.31 | J4k3 | I hate that |
| 21:56.55 | J4k3 | its like "I'm recording this for a reason, sphinctermunch" |
| 22:02.04 | fishhead | yeah now I can command record over vnc when I am upstairs in bed on my laptop |
| 22:02.13 | fishhead | cause if preview is enabled, vnc tends to stop working |
| 22:02.14 | fishhead | :p |
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| 22:11.55 | fishhead | will an AT psu work ok for powering the PPC |
| 22:12.06 | fishhead | or is not loading the 5 volt line going to cause trouble ? |
| 22:12.33 | jbevren | that depends on your psu |
| 22:14.20 | fishhead | bah I will just throw a small motor or something on it |
| 22:19.53 | fishhead | heh |
| 22:25.11 | fishhead | wtf |
| 22:25.15 | fishhead | the serial port is backwards |
| 22:26.00 | J4k3 | fishhead: dude... use a 12v 1a wall wart |
| 22:26.06 | J4k3 | positive center |
| 22:26.12 | J4k3 | sure, the start voltage is 15ish |
| 22:26.17 | fishhead | dude not worried about that righ tnow |
| 22:26.42 | J4k3 | until you go nuts with the pci slots or an hdd, you don't need more than the 12 watts a cheap psu would give you |
| 22:26.56 | jbevren | jake: wahts linksys' psu? |
| 22:27.09 | jbevren | fishhead: without a hdd btw, it draws around 700ma at full cpu |
| 22:28.35 | J4k3 | jbevren: linksys is 12V/1A |
| 22:28.43 | J4k3 | except for the rev 1.0, which is 5V/2A |
| 22:28.54 | J4k3 | the wrt54g/gs/gl series at least |
| 22:29.10 | jbevren | mine was 12v |
| 22:29.14 | jbevren | shame the thing died |
| 22:29.19 | jbevren | it didnt brick, the NIC went flaky |
| 22:29.22 | J4k3 | what died on it? |
| 22:29.23 | J4k3 | ahh |
| 22:29.35 | J4k3 | that leaves you with a... wireless serial port :P |
| 22:29.36 | jbevren | I could jtag a brick heh |
| 22:29.40 | jbevren | lol |
| 22:29.44 | jbevren | coulda used it for mesh I guess |
| 22:29.49 | jbevren | the wireless nic seemed ok |
| 22:29.49 | fishhead | actually |
| 22:29.50 | fishhead | that might have some uses |
| 22:29.52 | J4k3 | meth? don't mess with meth! |
| 22:30.04 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 22:30.07 | jbevren | fishhead: too late |
| 22:30.12 | jbevren | its been in the local landfill for a few months |
| 22:30.17 | J4k3 | awww |
| 22:30.34 | J4k3 | so... justdeals still hasn't given me a tracking # |
| 22:30.39 | J4k3 | but the box is sitting in my dining room |
| 22:30.41 | J4k3 | haha |
| 22:31.40 | agaffney | heh |
| 22:31.52 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:31.54 | jbevren | pretend you havent got it |
| 22:31.58 | jbevren | and demand a tracking ID |
| 22:32.01 | J4k3 | I already thought of that |
| 22:32.07 | J4k3 | dad informed me he had to sign for it :P |
| 22:32.32 | jbevren | did -you- sign for it? |
| 22:34.16 | fishhead | oh look I have a drive to drive power jumper cable |
| 22:34.33 | jbevren | you dont have to be blatantly malicious |
| 22:34.35 | jbevren | you can be um |
| 22:34.37 | jbevren | whats the word |
| 22:34.41 | jbevren | mature. |
| 22:34.45 | jbevren | I'll let you, honest |
| 22:34.46 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:37.28 | J4k3 | jbevren: haha no, dad did, but I bought them with "his" CC |
| 22:37.43 | J4k3 | (technically the business card is backed by his signature... I just work here...) |
| 22:37.58 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:38.28 | jbevren | Operating temperature range from -20° C to +85° C |
| 22:38.31 | jbevren | I like this drive |
| 22:40.29 | agaffney | newegg is fast...I placed my order for 2 IDE->CF adapters this morning and they've already shipped |
| 22:45.18 | jbevren | yep |
| 22:45.54 | agaffney | no tracking number, though |
| 22:54.34 | fishhead | 12 volts center positive right ? |
| 22:55.32 | jbevren | yep |
| 22:56.17 | fishhead | here goes the neighborhood |
| 22:56.58 | jbevren | POP! |
| 22:59.14 | fishhead | ugh |
| 22:59.15 | fishhead | rat basterd |
| 23:00.24 | J4k3 | what? |
| 23:01.51 | fishhead | I can't remove the posts from the one 25 to 9 pin adaptor so it will fit |
| 23:01.59 | fishhead | but then a realized I could remove the ones from the ppc end :P |
| 23:02.11 | jbevren | 25 to 9.. remove post.. ? |
| 23:02.57 | fishhead | hmm not working |
| 23:03.06 | jbevren | does the blue led come on? |
| 23:03.23 | fishhead | yes |
| 23:03.33 | fishhead | hyperterm is a piece of crap lemme swap |
| 23:05.12 | J4k3 | yes it is |
| 23:05.21 | J4k3 | go download a demo of CRT from vandyke.com |
| 23:05.27 | J4k3 | I think thats the right site |
| 23:05.30 | fishhead | how long before I see serial data |
| 23:05.32 | fishhead | after power on |
| 23:05.34 | J4k3 | instantly |
| 23:05.40 | J4k3 | 9600/8n1, no flow control |
| 23:05.45 | fishhead | then I either killed the board when it got dropped or serial is bad |
| 23:05.55 | J4k3 | ok |
| 23:06.04 | J4k3 | hmm |
| 23:06.08 | J4k3 | I got an idea |
| 23:06.30 | fishhead | I need a null modem cable right ? |
| 23:06.32 | J4k3 | involving a 32 ohm headphone, and the TX pin on your serial port |
| 23:06.33 | J4k3 | no |
| 23:06.35 | J4k3 | straight |
| 23:06.36 | fishhead | AH |
| 23:06.38 | fishhead | problem solved |
| 23:07.03 | J4k3 | you need a hetero cable |
| 23:07.54 | fishhead | YEAH BABY YEAH! |
| 23:08.23 | fishhead | FLICKS OFF DUAL BIRDS TO ALL THE BULLSHIT IN THE UNIVERSE TRYING TO KEEP HIM DOWN |
| 23:08.28 | fishhead | YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE! |
| 23:09.00 | fishhead | oh btw tell gpsfan if he didn't figure it out already |
| 23:09.08 | fishhead | remeber the problem he had with banks missing |
| 23:09.25 | fishhead | might have to do with the board being hard wired for cas2 or cas3 |
| 23:13.04 | fishhead | wow |
| 23:13.11 | fishhead | ppcboot actually inits pci cards and stuff |
| 23:13.17 | fishhead | does the pc bios even try to do that ? |
| 23:15.24 | fishhead | Raenex writes "CNET is reporting that Intel and Skype have signed an exclusive deal that would cap the number of conference call members on all but Intel architecture. Skype will only offer 10-way conference calls on specific Intel chips while other chips, including all AMD chips, will only offer 5-way conference calls. From the article: 'Though few would argue that a niche feature like that is going to be a deal breaker for most PC buyers, the imp |
| 23:15.24 | fishhead | ortance of the Skype-Intel alliance goes well beyond VoIP conferencing. Indeed, it's the latest, and certainly most prominent, example of Intel's new take on marketing: Lock in software partners as well as the PC makers.'" |
| 23:15.36 | fishhead | that has to be the most fucking stupid thing intel has done in a while |
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| 23:17.36 | fishhead | should I be able to type on the screen ? |
| 23:18.19 | fishhead | nm |
| 23:18.29 | fishhead | WHOA |
| 23:18.35 | fishhead | i wish pc's had a bootloader like this |
| 23:19.24 | J4k3 | American Megatrends Win-Bios [tm] |
| 23:20.53 | fishhead | wow |
| 23:20.55 | fishhead | this is cool |
| 23:21.00 | fishhead | it's like my sparc only it doesn't suck |
| 23:36.57 | fishhead | j4k3 http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=CFQAOMPO4XY1CQSNDBESKHA?articleID=180200448 |
| 23:41.18 | fishhead | goign to check out another big lots tomarrow |
| 23:41.22 | fishhead | one I have not been to before |
| 23:41.28 | fishhead | see if they have juicebox mp3 kits etc |
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